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Is Chivalry Dead Among Relationships Today? (Page 2)
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The old ways are the right ways, society has been taught wrong by public school and the media. The traditional gender roles are the correct natural behavior and nothing else is as healthy, emotionally deep, fulfilling and logical.
People want to believe that there is another way that is just as good, but there really is not and never will be.
Why should men be chivalrous? Women don't really offer anything in return. If you want a man to treat you with old school chivalry you have to be an old school lady. Eg. Cook and clean. Otherwise you really aren't controlling the same as a chivalrous man is.
I'd really like to know what it is women give to men that men don't?
Why do you make it look like a deal - i do this, so you have to do this. Is being a gentleman to the person you love is like a deal to you, like when you go out shopping? I believe relationships should be more than than. And regards to your last question, i will leave you to think about it.
To me relationship have to be a fair, equal partnership. Chivalry in this time period isn't 50/50 because women don't contribute the same to a relationship as they did in the past. To expect guys to still contribute the same is idiotic.
A relationship is what two people make it - to say a woman can't contribute accordingly is even more "idiotic".
But what are women doing? They aren't contributing the same as they use to, yet they expect guys to keep it up. Talk about entertainment.
It isn't that women can't; it is that most don't. What acts of chivalry are expected of women? I can name many for men, but non for women.
lol thanks for sharing.
Thanks for proving my point.
I'm not proving your point, I'm just saying thank you for sharing your opinion.
Ya, but you aren't answering my question, which says to me you can't.
I will be posting a whole mytake on what a woman does to contribute and show love, care and respect to her partner (and "chivalry"), so stay tuned to see how i really do not prove your point.
I will look forward to reading it and trying to prove you wrong😁
Im naturally a gentleman. Im currently dating someone and she constantly says how adorable it is that im such a gentleman.
“Chivalry is dead and women killed it”
- Dave Chapelle
Chivalry is the most delicate form of contempt.
- Albert Guerard
Not at all. Maybe it's expressed differently than in the past, but it's definitely still there.
In the past men treated women like they were special, because they were special. Today woman are no longer special. In fact, women have worked very hard to NOT be special, and they have achived their goal. As a result, they have lost the right to be treated as special. That's really all in the world this is about.
Sorry ladies, but as much as you would like to, you cannot have it both ways. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Amen.
In a relationship there are two people - you can make your partner feel special if you want to of course.
Your comment seems to completely miss my point.
I didn't miss your point - I'm just redirecting it to a positive thing and I'm taking out the negativity of your point which is completely unnecessary if you love your partner.
There is no negativity in my point, only facts and observations. Choosing to ignore them is kinda silly in light of your question.
As i said in a relationship there are two people and you can take out negativity or put it in by your choice. I don't think that the fact there are certain observations "facts" are fundamental for your relationships as you can redirect them to a positive outcome.
Chivalry is dead today due to woman's behavior. That is the answer to your question. You can to do with that information whatever you choose. Your comments about negativity and relationships are completely irrelevant to the conversations, but if it makes you feel better to keep repeating them I'm OK with that. Cheers
''Chivalry is dead today due to woman's behavior'', chivalry is a PERSONAL choice! It will be dead if you want it to be dead. Your comments about chivalry and relationships are completely irrelevant to the positivity that everybody wants in their relationships, but if it makes you feel better to keep repeating them I'm OK with that.
@asker,
I love you question, because it's thought provoking and unique. But let's face it... chivalrous behavior is no longer rewarded in society. As a matter of fact it's frowned upon. That's great news for us guys. Now when we see a woman with a flat tire, we no longer have to get our hands dirty. It's a huge blessing in disguise.
@BBubbles Agreed. It always strikes me as ironic that women, who have been asking for equality for decades, are complaining now that they are getting it.
Equality is equality. You don't get to choose only the positive components of equality and not the negative ones. It does not work that way.
@sakummu: it sounds to me like you are misusing the term "chivalry" here.
@OP
![Is Chivalry Dead Among Relationships Today?]()
A couple of days ago, a GAG guy posted this pic.
I'm quite sure that 99% of the GAGers didn't get the meaning, but I did, and I know you will.
Any sane girl does NOT want equality. I would love to go back to the time of chivalry. But back in those days, women had class. They smiled and thanked you. Those days are long gone, as is chivalry.
Being a gentleman is a personal choice - accepted by society or not, having equality with the opposite sex or not. Period.
Being a gentleman just means being nice and respectful, and should be the same for both men and women. Chivalry is a very different thing and involves men treating women as if they are different and special. That's not equality, and unfortunately today it seem women still feel entitled to that special treatment. Those days are over.
@BBubbles I agree 100%.
Being a gentlemen = being a loser.
That ship sailed a long time ago.
A real man should reserve his chivalry for the woman of his dreams. All the rest of the women in the world can just fuck off. They made their bed...
@BBubbles Depends what you mean by "gentleman". If you just mean being a good person and treating others well, that's fine and it applies to both men and women. But chivalry is about treating women different just because they are women, and that ship has indeed sailed. Women have gotten the equality they asked for, whether they like it or not.
" Today woman are no longer special."
Can I ask in what ways do you think women are no longer special these days, compare to past.
@BBubbles "Being a gentlemen = being a loser. "
US President Ronald Reagan. Don't think anyone would've called him a loser.
I have always opened doors for old or young women, got up on bus to let woman sit down on full bus.1 guy jumpt in seat as I rose for lady. so I grabbed guy by his throat and lifted him out of seat and through him on floor all the bus clapped
wow quite the experience
I'd LOVE to see you try that homo maneuver on me, my brother or cousins. You would be in a world of hurt.
Not completely dead, but sadly it’s dying. I’ve still dated guys who are still quite chivalrous though thankfully.
i think its less about chivalry and more about common politeness which is definitely something that is in decline today
It should be wome dont deserve special treatment cause you are girls this is what you feminists wanted
Good take... since you love chivalry let me ask you this, will you ever love to become a devoted housewife and make your husband 1st priority forever?
I love men who are chivalry I would say I’m old school and would cook and clean for my husband
Then you are worth it. Better women deserve better treatment.
@Timelesswisdom agreed
If chivalry is part of who you are, then be yourself, if your totally laid back and dont act all formal when you show affection, then still be yourself. So long as two people are happy with their genuine relationship and chemistry, its all good.
chivalry can't exist, where equal genders exist. chivalry is the result of subduing women and offering them special rights and protection. special rights are not a thing in equality.
I'd suggest you read a bit more careful what I've said above about chivalry.
that doesn't change anything about what i said. i mean you just brush it off by "well boys just can't figure out how to properly treat women" as if that was an easy thing to do in our modern society. it's incredibly hard to find out what's appropriate and how you should conduct yourself as a man in a society that's supposed to be equal. not even considering the wildly diverse preferences and the clash between modern and conservative values that are still around in differing proportions in every woman.
we are in a state of confusion, were men just don't know how to behave properly, cause it seems like however you behave, there's some snowflake that gets offended and you're not doing it right however you do it.
I got what you mean now.
lol I dated a girl.
We went for a meal and we walked back to the car and I opened the car door for her.
Apparently she got 'offended by that'
It was women who killed chivalry. Women choosing to date the bad men and treating the good men like shit. I stopped being a gentleman long me ago
Yeah its because women are trash and feminism ruined everything.
Chivalry is a one way street that benefits women, in a day and age where the two genders are equal desiring that inequality is hypocritical.
It's not rude of men to not be chivalrous, it's rude of women to expect it.
Why is it rude to have a certain type of standard when regarding how I'm being treated? I'm not forcing someone to be a gentleman if they don't want to lol
You are objecifying men as financial providers. We are people, not sources of income.
I haven't said anywhere this.
Your actions do.
My actions? Do you know me to say anything about my actions? Please stick to the things I've said above.
I am basing eveything I say on what you said above. Your post reeks of entitlement.
Well I'm sorry to hear you understand what i wrote in such way, because i truly don't think as men only as walking wallets lol I'm quite financially independent myself if that makes it any way different.
But yet you still want the guy to pay on dates?
I'm okay with splitting the bill if my man wants that.
I try not to let it go !!!