No, doing house chores does not make you "manly". It makes you an adult, but don't try to sell something for what it isn't. It is practical to help with some house work just to ensure it gets done. The division of labor needs to be practical. However, make no mistake, men have ALWAYS helped around the house. What they do is maintain the house itself and the exterior. Mowing the grass, trimming the hedges, salting the driveway, clearing the gutters, oiling the car, painting the walls, watering the plants. Those are all male oriented house work, so if you have a ton to do outside then it's unreasonable to expect you to help inside as well.
Women do chores. You will never see me cook or clean except on special occasions. If my girl is too tired from work then she shouldn't work so much. Its irrelevant to her womanly responsibilities. Do i not have to protect my girlfriend from someone harrassing her if im too tired from folding laundry? No. Because no matter how much i choose to help her with womanly tasks i never have an excuse to shirk my manly duties. And vice versa. Men work and thus work is no excuse for a woman to not cook and clean and keep house.
@danteteexplorer What makes you think you are above doingcany cleaning, laundry, cooking etc. Do you eat the food, dirty tge pkace you live in, ever have dirty?
@MysteriousDarkness and what makes a woman above protecting me? I guess ill hide in the closet and she can confront a burglar in the dark. Quit being fucking pussies. I like how the girl likes this and 2 men dont. Smh. Whats this world come to? Also i said its ok for a man to help but only secondary and when my primary tasks are fully completed. Man does man tasks first then woman tasks. Woman does woman first then man. That simple.
@bamesjond0069 Umm.. And when you live alone you bury yourself in dirt, wear stinky clothes and eat shit? Since you're apparently not capable to take care of yourself and your place like an adult? 😂
bamesjond0069 Whatcare tge manly jobs you have to do and how often do you do them? What if something was to happen to your girlfriend like she leaves you for some reason gets deathly sick, severely injured, dies then what would you do? I am not wishing or hoping any if that happens.
@MysteriousDarkness work which is almost every day because i pay for everything. Take out the trash. Mow the lawn. Fix things around the house which is a lot of work personally im remodeling bathroom right now. Do all the car maintenance. Constantly stay prepared to protect her ie always carry gun practice regularly stay fit. Hold doors for her. Im sure other stuff. These are all things that she has no expectations to do any of it for me.
@MysteriousDarkness and if i was single id do it myself but i dont do a great job of it tbh. But even if im single i date regularly so usually i get some help here and there. Traditional women dont mind usually.
@bamesjond0069 A lot of women work so that is not an excuse. I know women that take out trash and mow the lawn. I get remodeling but if that was not going on then most likely you would not be fixing things most of the time unless things are constantly breaking or leaking. If you did not have remodling going on you would not have any excuses to help out with cleaning, laundry, cooking etc. Taking out the trash does not take much time and depending on the size of your yard will determine how long it takes to mow. You are not doing either everyday.
@MysteriousDarkness a lot of women work but thats not a womans role. Men are supposed to be the providers. A woman working is the equivalent to a man doing laundry. Its not her responsibility and it comes 2nd to her feminine tasks. Idgaf if a girl works but its never an excuse to not cook or clean or do her duties.
Guys like that are the best 😍. Both men and women work nowadays and that's how it should be as an idle mind is the devil's workshop. So, it's only fair if the guys help with the housework too.
the study was Norwegian, aka from equality land. I'm glad you don't have a woman, that means there's enough time for you to lose your retarded beliefs before you set yourself up to be cuckolded. Here's a tip, lose the feminist crap.
When I start dating (and I'm not looking for a date now because I don't have enough time and I don't see an opportunity) I will only date feminists. And feminists don't like cuckold they like men who respect them and even let them dominate them
a female feminist who wants to be dominated is a bit of a unorthodox feminist. i hate to break the news to you, but wanting a man that treats them right and let them dominate them, that isn't just feminists (behind all their bullshit rhetoric), that's pretty much all women. the difference is what you think counts as respect, as in "equal".
Woman want men who respect them, but the men they want the most are those they respect far more than they do. The truth is no woman can respect a man doing their "fair share" of woman's work, and if she doesn't respect you, she has no sexual interest in you.
Men live in houses and apartments on their own. Doing housework to maintain a clean home, clean clothes and make food is not "women's work." It is sex neutral. It's life maintenance work. If you want to have a clean home, clothes and food other than takeout or frozen dinners, you devote time to self care. House work is self care. And you get a sense of accomplishment and pride in taking care of yourself. It's wonderful to have a clean, organized home you're happy to invite people to visit and to lay your head down in...
@Screenwriter I own my own house, in which i do clean and cook for myself, which in that context is an attractive trait. The only thing more unattractive than a man in a relationship doing said woman's work, is a man who genuinely doesn't know how to. What I've said here may be politically incorrect and all, but it's still true. Both the statistics and my life experience has taught me that. Whether it's the living room or the bedroom, women are not attracted to "house husband" like men.
Maybe the women you know. Housework is a drudge. Couples should share. I appreciated my husband doing it. I liked him being clean and cooking. Made it less tiresome. It's all about choice. You find people who agree with you and it works. I do the same.
I used to work, take care of our child and do all the housework, get groceries, wash clothes get him to school and back. She didn't appreciate it, she just wanted more and more from me and came home less and less. Men should do their part, but don't think women are gonna see it as manly or anything. That's a fantasy. Just from my experience.
The concept of manly and unmanly is a social construct, regardless of rather people think one thing is manly or not means literally nothing, you do you, and if you're in a relationship, help out, house work, lawn work, whatever, helping out is just something good partners should do. My opinion on it anyways.
I wouldn't call it manly. Both people need to help out because they live there and a healthy relationship is a partnership. Also because I'm not his mother.
I don’t think it should be called or classed as a male or female Job both genders will have to clean up / tidy up some points on there life and along with that I strongly disagree with stereotypes for male and female things or jobs etc so no I disagree help is help
Gentlemen its not manly. It might be nice and appreciated a but there's nothing manly about it and thats ok. We dont have to be manly all the time. You should help your girl... I mean I dont but mines well trained. But you want the real story look at the picture. Its all about immasculating you and conditioning subservient behavior. Dont buy into it,
With my Ex, years ago, I was the "House man". I am disabled. Epilepsy. I lived in Austin, TX for 2 months. She work and be at home cleaning and getting stuff at the store for food. I walk around the city to find new cool places to hang out for awhile. I always made her, what she said, "make that sandwich for me." For her lunch time.
I will never understand why anyone does chores - man or woman. Besides the unavoidable necessary ones like washing your kitchen utensils and taking out the trash, I really don't get what drives people to do things like vacuum the floor or wipe all the windows or scrub the shower, etc.
Like, if you work for 8 hours a day and finally get some free time after you finish, what on Earth makes you say, "I know, I'll clean the house!"? Like how does that thought even pop into people's minds lol
@aa180 Go ahead and never clean your floors, shower, counter tops, toilet, sinks, refrigerator, stove top, oven etc. Find out the hard way why you should clean things.
@MysteriousDarkness I already never clean my room nor wash my car and I haven't learned anything the "hard way" about why I "should" do so. Life is great and so much more convenient when I don't have to care about such a boring and incessantly repetitive waste of time such as cleaning and tidying. I happily spend 100% of my free time doing what I enjoy, but have fun devoting multiple hours of your week to scrubbing the toilet and mopping the floors, since you seem to think that the world will end if you don't do it 👍
@aa180 Have fun with the mold in your shower and refrigerator, grime in your sinks, poop on the rim of or toilet bowl bottom of toilet seat and on your toilet seat lid, dirty dusty floors, dirty windows, creasy stove top etc. Have fun with your filth.
I'm proud more so because there's something liberating about being my own boss and not having to do something which I consider excruciatingly boring that I always dreaded doing whilst growing up because my parents made me. I like having all of my free time to myself.
women all cheer for the guy who helps with the chores but none of them want to have sex with him. the moment you start doing womanly shit around the house they lose respect for you and they won't look at you the same so have fun growing up to be a world-class cuck
a 14 year old trying to lecture us once again on relationships and marriage although he is not even at dating age. Tell me boy where is your masculine, aggressive, career woman wife to bust your balls, tell you to shut up and give it to you in the back door with a strap-on? Why do you give advice about relationships that you haven't even experienced? Show us your masculine wife.
Flak, he’s right about most the things he posts about. And he’s got a more rational and mature demeanor than most other guys his age and even much older. He might be young but doesn’t disqualify what he’s saying. His message is spot on.
Living on your own you have all the jobs to do , no little lady to palm them on to. Last night spent time cleaning bathroom vacing up. Fill and empty washer , and started to iron shirts and trousers , then started on some food , sit down to eat it 9-30pm...
its not nor has it ever been the womans job its not even splitting the chores i do it cause i live and use the same as her as much and a man just does it a boy will ask why and ask if hell have to do this again
You misunderstood me, what I mean was when a man is the majority leader and more in control in the relationship, a woman will generally respect him more and whatever he does even if he does traditionally more female roles like washing, cleaning or ironing, he would still be respected.. its only my opinion and what I have learnt and seen over the years..
No offense taken. I've observed that, too. My wife is a self-described Feminist and all, but at home we largely fulfill traditional gender roles. The point being there that it's an agreement we both made rather than just following some antiquated social code.
Last night, I stayed up late and cleaned up the kitchen before I went to bed. She's uh... on her cycle right now and I felt bad that I haven't cleaned up much lately and I wanted to get it done before I went to work today. I *guarantee* you I'll be the hero even though she does this like 4x more than I do in a given week.
My friend I totally respect your view point, as there may be many different reasons and after hearing your viewpoint, although different to mine, it also makes sense.
I mean you can clean up after yourself? I’d prefer he help with the outside work because I’ve never even touched a lawn mower and all that jazz... I can keep the house clean.
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No, doing house chores does not make you "manly". It makes you an adult, but don't try to sell something for what it isn't. It is practical to help with some house work just to ensure it gets done. The division of labor needs to be practical. However, make no mistake, men have ALWAYS helped around the house. What they do is maintain the house itself and the exterior. Mowing the grass, trimming the hedges, salting the driveway, clearing the gutters, oiling the car, painting the walls, watering the plants. Those are all male oriented house work, so if you have a ton to do outside then it's unreasonable to expect you to help inside as well.
Women do chores. You will never see me cook or clean except on special occasions. If my girl is too tired from work then she shouldn't work so much. Its irrelevant to her womanly responsibilities. Do i not have to protect my girlfriend from someone harrassing her if im too tired from folding laundry? No. Because no matter how much i choose to help her with womanly tasks i never have an excuse to shirk my manly duties. And vice versa. Men work and thus work is no excuse for a woman to not cook and clean and keep house.
@danteteexplorer
What makes you think you are above doingcany cleaning, laundry, cooking etc. Do you eat the food, dirty tge pkace you live in, ever have dirty?
I meant bamesjond0069
@MysteriousDarkness and what makes a woman above protecting me? I guess ill hide in the closet and she can confront a burglar in the dark. Quit being fucking pussies. I like how the girl likes this and 2 men dont. Smh. Whats this world come to? Also i said its ok for a man to help but only secondary and when my primary tasks are fully completed. Man does man tasks first then woman tasks. Woman does woman first then man. That simple.
@bamesjond0069 Umm.. And when you live alone you bury yourself in dirt, wear stinky clothes and eat shit? Since you're apparently not capable to take care of yourself and your place like an adult? 😂
@Hurlyburly why would i live like that? I do have a girlfriend you know.
So that's a yes then. Alright no more questions.
bamesjond0069
Whatcare tge manly jobs you have to do and how often do you do them?
What if something was to happen to your girlfriend like she leaves you for some reason gets deathly sick, severely injured, dies then what would you do? I am not wishing or hoping any if that happens.
@MysteriousDarkness work which is almost every day because i pay for everything. Take out the trash. Mow the lawn. Fix things around the house which is a lot of work personally im remodeling bathroom right now. Do all the car maintenance. Constantly stay prepared to protect her ie always carry gun practice regularly stay fit. Hold doors for her. Im sure other stuff. These are all things that she has no expectations to do any of it for me.
@MysteriousDarkness and if i was single id do it myself but i dont do a great job of it tbh. But even if im single i date regularly so usually i get some help here and there. Traditional women dont mind usually.
@bamesjond0069
A lot of women work so that is not an excuse.
I know women that take out trash and mow the lawn. I get remodeling but if that was not going on then most likely you would not be fixing things most of the time unless things are constantly breaking or leaking. If you did not have remodling going on you would not have any excuses to help out with cleaning, laundry, cooking etc. Taking out the trash does not take much time and depending on the size of your yard will determine how long it takes to mow. You are not doing either everyday.
@MysteriousDarkness a lot of women work but thats not a womans role. Men are supposed to be the providers. A woman working is the equivalent to a man doing laundry. Its not her responsibility and it comes 2nd to her feminine tasks. Idgaf if a girl works but its never an excuse to not cook or clean or do her duties.
@bamesjond0069
Guys like you think they are above cleaning, cooking and doing laundry. You need a reality check. I am done here.
Guys like that are the best 😍. Both men and women work nowadays and that's how it should be as an idle mind is the devil's workshop. So, it's only fair if the guys help with the housework too.
Thanks! ❤ that's true
My friend, your woman statistically is fucking some other man.
www.telegraph.co.uk/.../...ivorce-study-finds.html
I don't have a woman and no
Yeah... you expect me to beleive reports from the most sexist website ever
the study was Norwegian, aka from equality land.
I'm glad you don't have a woman, that means there's enough time for you to lose your retarded beliefs before you set yourself up to be cuckolded. Here's a tip, lose the feminist crap.
When I start dating (and I'm not looking for a date now because I don't have enough time and I don't see an opportunity) I will only date feminists. And feminists don't like cuckold they like men who respect them and even let them dominate them
a female feminist who wants to be dominated is a bit of a unorthodox feminist.
i hate to break the news to you, but wanting a man that treats them right and let them dominate them, that isn't just feminists (behind all their bullshit rhetoric), that's pretty much all women. the difference is what you think counts as respect, as in "equal".
Woman want men who respect them, but the men they want the most are those they respect far more than they do. The truth is no woman can respect a man doing their "fair share" of woman's work, and if she doesn't respect you, she has no sexual interest in you.
You don't get it, feminists like men who let the feminsit dominate them
no, they really don't
Men live in houses and apartments on their own. Doing housework to maintain a clean home, clean clothes and make food is not "women's work." It is sex neutral. It's life maintenance work. If you want to have a clean home, clothes and food other than takeout or frozen dinners, you devote time to self care. House work is self care. And you get a sense of accomplishment and pride in taking care of yourself. It's wonderful to have a clean, organized home you're happy to invite people to visit and to lay your head down in...
@Screenwriter I own my own house, in which i do clean and cook for myself, which in that context is an attractive trait. The only thing more unattractive than a man in a relationship doing said woman's work, is a man who genuinely doesn't know how to.
What I've said here may be politically incorrect and all, but it's still true. Both the statistics and my life experience has taught me that. Whether it's the living room or the bedroom, women are not attracted to "house husband" like men.
Maybe the women you know. Housework is a drudge. Couples should share. I appreciated my husband doing it. I liked him being clean and cooking. Made it less tiresome. It's all about choice. You find people who agree with you and it works. I do the same.
@Screenwriter That's funny, because i don't think i said anything about appreciation, i said respect and desire.
I used to work, take care of our child and do all the housework, get groceries, wash clothes get him to school and back.
She didn't appreciate it, she just wanted more and more from me and came home less and less.
Men should do their part, but don't think women are gonna see it as manly or anything.
That's a fantasy.
Just from my experience.
The concept of manly and unmanly is a social construct, regardless of rather people think one thing is manly or not means literally nothing, you do you, and if you're in a relationship, help out, house work, lawn work, whatever, helping out is just something good partners should do. My opinion on it anyways.
I wouldn't call it manly. Both people need to help out because they live there and a healthy relationship is a partnership. Also because I'm not his mother.
The girl is in the picture is holding the same bowl that im eating my cereal out of right now
Wow😂 enjoy your cereal. I just ate cereal too
I don’t think it should be called or classed as a male or female Job both genders will have to clean up / tidy up some points on there life and along with that I strongly disagree with stereotypes for male and female things or jobs etc so no I disagree help is help
Gentlemen its not manly. It might be nice and appreciated a but there's nothing manly about it and thats ok. We dont have to be manly all the time. You should help your girl... I mean I dont but mines well trained. But you want the real story look at the picture. Its all about immasculating you and conditioning subservient behavior. Dont buy into it,
With my Ex, years ago, I was the "House man". I am disabled. Epilepsy. I lived in Austin, TX for 2 months. She work and be at home cleaning and getting stuff at the store for food. I walk around the city to find new cool places to hang out for awhile. I always made her, what she said, "make that sandwich for me." For her lunch time.
I will never understand why anyone does chores - man or woman. Besides the unavoidable necessary ones like washing your kitchen utensils and taking out the trash, I really don't get what drives people to do things like vacuum the floor or wipe all the windows or scrub the shower, etc.
Like, if you work for 8 hours a day and finally get some free time after you finish, what on Earth makes you say, "I know, I'll clean the house!"? Like how does that thought even pop into people's minds lol
@aa180
Go ahead and never clean your floors, shower, counter tops, toilet, sinks, refrigerator, stove top, oven etc. Find out the hard way why you should clean things.
@MysteriousDarkness I already never clean my room nor wash my car and I haven't learned anything the "hard way" about why I "should" do so. Life is great and so much more convenient when I don't have to care about such a boring and incessantly repetitive waste of time such as cleaning and tidying. I happily spend 100% of my free time doing what I enjoy, but have fun devoting multiple hours of your week to scrubbing the toilet and mopping the floors, since you seem to think that the world will end if you don't do it 👍
@aa180
Have fun with the mold in your shower and refrigerator, grime in your sinks, poop on the rim of or toilet bowl bottom of toilet seat and on your toilet seat lid, dirty dusty floors, dirty windows, creasy stove top etc. Have fun with your filth.
@MysteriousDarkness Thank you
@aa180
Also have fun with the awful stench. Your car is just the same, dusty, dirty, awful smelling.
@aa180
It is sad that you are proud of your nasty car and nasty place.
@MysteriousDarkness No, there is no awful stench, that's just your paranoia making you assume that. But I don't care, my life is good 😎
I'm proud more so because there's something liberating about being my own boss and not having to do something which I consider excruciatingly boring that I always dreaded doing whilst growing up because my parents made me. I like having all of my free time to myself.
@aa180
Paranoia does not reside here. Saying you do not tidy up or clean means you are a messy dirty person.
women all cheer for the guy who helps with the chores but none of them want to have sex with him. the moment you start doing womanly shit around the house they lose respect for you and they won't look at you the same so have fun growing up to be a world-class cuck
@NorthwestRider please tell him about your fiancee
i don't need to hear from one guy. i have listened to the thousands of nice guys whose wives have left them for bad boys
And their wives are assholes, I'm not going to date a girl who wants a criminal with an IQ of a Rock to begin with.
a 14 year old trying to lecture us once again on relationships and marriage although he is not even at dating age. Tell me boy where is your masculine, aggressive, career woman wife to bust your balls, tell you to shut up and give it to you in the back door with a strap-on? Why do you give advice about relationships that you haven't even experienced? Show us your masculine wife.
She isn't masculine. True femininity is a soft look and a dominant personality. And i won't shut up. You don't own gag
I just reported you, enjoy
where is your wife? show her to us. Show us how she treats you like shit exactly as you say a real man should do.
You'll see her in hell
Flak, he’s right about most the things he posts about. And he’s got a more rational and mature demeanor than most other guys his age and even much older. He might be young but doesn’t disqualify what he’s saying. His message is spot on.
Living on your own you have all the jobs to do , no little lady to palm them on to. Last night spent time cleaning bathroom vacing up. Fill and empty washer , and started to iron shirts and trousers , then started on some food , sit down to eat it 9-30pm...
its not nor has it ever been the womans job its not even splitting the chores i do it cause i live and use the same as her as much and a man just does it a boy will ask why and ask if hell have to do this again
Yes because I can't cook, one of us has to be able to lol
Only so when the man has the pants on and is the man in the relationship otherwise can be less masculine...
So if I'm just in my boxers and I do the laundry... I'm less of a man? That explains a lot, thanks
You misunderstood me, what I mean was when a man is the majority leader and more in control in the relationship, a woman will generally respect him more and whatever he does even if he does traditionally more female roles like washing, cleaning or ironing, he would still be respected.. its only my opinion and what I have learnt and seen over the years..
Sorry if I offended anyone..
No offense taken. I've observed that, too. My wife is a self-described Feminist and all, but at home we largely fulfill traditional gender roles. The point being there that it's an agreement we both made rather than just following some antiquated social code.
Last night, I stayed up late and cleaned up the kitchen before I went to bed. She's uh... on her cycle right now and I felt bad that I haven't cleaned up much lately and I wanted to get it done before I went to work today. I *guarantee* you I'll be the hero even though she does this like 4x more than I do in a given week.
My friend I totally respect your view point, as there may be many different reasons and after hearing your viewpoint, although different to mine, it also makes sense.
I do it all around my home. I do not consider it manly nor womanly. I consider it necessary.
I mean you can clean up after yourself? I’d prefer he help with the outside work because I’ve never even touched a lawn mower and all that jazz... I can keep the house clean.