What do you think about hypergamy?

[freakyzeaky]

I know this has been a topic that has been circulating on GaG the past couple months, but these videos do put some perspective on hypergamy and the lamentations of the average man.

And then this video goes further into it from a slightly older woman's perspective:

Lauren in the first video claims that women should date their "best friend". S. M. in the second video claims that dating a "best friend" is a bad idea but she suggests a woman should "settle down" with a good man in her 20s and not wait until her 30s when her sexual value decreases.

These concepts are interesting coming from women...

This next video introduces the idea that some women don't want to "burn their bridge" and look for an open marriage later down the line to see if she can find a "new man" who is "better" for a "replacement husband"...

And then finally this video (super long, but only watch first few minutes). The guest basically loves the man she is with and sees him as an excellent long-term partner for marriage and family, but when he is going through financial troubles, she loses interest in him sexually. She is basically turned off by him. This is a very discouraging thought that some women are like this. It also goes into the idea that women who go for men who are hotties or sugar daddies for fun/sex in their younger years, have trouble staying attracted to good stable men later in life when they are ready to settle down.

Do you find any of this red pill stuff seriously? Is hypergamy all that common? I know some guys on here are MGTOW and RedPill, but I want the opinions of the average GaGers, especially women. Do you think more and more women are waiting too long to "settle down"? Do you think this only happens with highly attractive women? Do you think that finances are really that closely tied to a woman's sexual attraction to a long-term partner or it is only for women who are "spoiled" in their younger years?

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A follow up might be, what is your opinion on the "initial lust phase" and how chemistry isn't an indicator of long-term potential?

[GeminiAgent007]

Honestly didn't quite like any of the girls in the first two videos though the first ones made some valid points they and the second one made it all sound like a calculated plan to snatch up a man while we can. When the point should be fix yourself get your head out of your ass stop with the the superficial shit and you'll find a good person, not settle because you have an expiration date just as a person don't be so stuck up in the first place. If your so worried about material things and status you dont deserve a good guy. My current boyfriend was and still is my best friend he's as of now is unemployed I adore that guy how could that inconvenience make me value him any less? Maybe if he was a lazy unmotivated mooch yes but not the case so I don't understand people, the problem is they enter into relationships without genuine feelings and respect towards each other then they feel the need to level up when they see something shiny.
The first man I agreed with until he started sounding just like any other bitter MGTOW manifesting his own personal issues with women
Last video was too long did watch the first few minutes as suggested the women talking it was really disheartening to hear her talk about her feelings towards her partner depending on his income at times

[Dali-chan]

Lol. I’m gonna be honest, hypergamy is totally normal cause we all want someone who’s attractive and financially stable. The only difference is that men prioritize look and women prioritize money. If a man is attracted a to a woman cause she have a beautiful butt then she have the right to be attracted to him cause he have a beautiful car. They can both get along with each other and eventually fall in love but attraction is always based on something superficial, wether it’s look or money.
Men don’t date ugly and women don’t date broke.
Ofc An ugly fat woman who want a millionaire is for me as stupid and delusional as a jobless guy who expect a hot girl

[BlobbyMcBlob]

I agree.
I just think the "men prioritize look and women prioritize money" part is reductive.
Many women want more than money, and some don't care much about money if at all.
Many men want more than a nice body, though I don't think many don't care about it at all.

[Jager66]

It really is time that society has the "Toxic Femininity" discussion.

Hypergamy has become a huge problem. It has it's place and no doubt is a factor in what helped humans evolve into what we are now.

However now that we have the ability to literally destroy the planet, and are doing it at an alarmingly rapid rate, feeding woman's desire for "more", perhaps it's time we all sit down and talk about all the ways women fuck up the world and how we can force them into change for the better. After all, we know it works, we already did it to men.

[Cosytoasty]

It's all B. S, I wonder if all the MGTOW guys from unbroken families actually look at their happily married parents and go "hmmm yeah, my theories apply to them".

If hypergamy was as widespread as they'd have you believe the only people who would ever date would be the 1%.

[freakyzeaky]

Yet divorce rates are on the steady increase with women being the primary initiators. We aren't talking about our parent's generation.

My parents stuck it out when in reality, my mother had all the reasons in the world to leave. My father was a bad alcoholic who never stayed home and my mother was a stay at home mom who was severely depressed. But they had a sense of duty. They eventually reconciled and my father stayed at home more often, my mother got out of her depression eventually.
They worked at it, they didn't give up on each other.

Personally, I take this stuff with a massive grain of salt. I have seen men who have had a mid-life crisis and wondered what it would be like to sow their wild oats, ended up cheating on their wives or divorcing because the passion had died and ended up getting remarried to much hotter second wife once they found their new groove.

I think this mostly happens with highly attractive people, but then, the red piller would say otherwise.

[freakyzeaky]

(As far as my parents are concerned, I also think my mother stayed because she was highly dependant on my father. Women these days aren't as dependant either)

[freakyzeaky]

(as far the the guy with the mid-life crisis example, that really happened with my ex-girlfriend's parents. They were high school sweethearts. Father made good money, mother worked too. Father was obese but got a gastric bypass. Father ended up growing massive confidence and had handsome looks and saw his own value increase. He ended up cheating on Mom. Mom gets devastated. They separate. She finds another man for rebound sex. Divorce. The rest is history. In this case, the guy "monkey branched" to a more attractive looking younger woman, or perhaps not even more attractive, but just more passionate, and offered a sex life that was far more satisfying. This is why I say, if you want your relationship or marriage to last? Keep your guys dick properly drained and for the guy to never stop dating/courting/reaching new heights in the relationship and in his career no matter where it started at.)

[Cosytoasty]

Indeed, i mean what you've described with the guy getting a hot new wife is essentially men being hypergamous.

There is so much more to a loving long-lasting relationship beyond attractiveness and money which is why the entire idea of this is flawed from the outset. VERY few people simply jump ship because of those two factors alone.

[freakyzeaky]

This is why I think only very attractive people who consider themselves deserving of something "more" and only care about what others have to offer them are the ones who are hypergamous. It could be some perceived lack, like in the case when a woman doesn't feel her man is ambitious enough to support a family to her standards or when a man is no longer satisfied by his woman in the bedroom (not just looks, but also enthusiasm). It may not even be what we think of as "monkey branching" or the grass is greener menality, but just the inability to work to improve our current situations with our partners as was mentioned by Lauren in the first video.

Perhaps "no fault" divorce laws as made it all too easy for people to throw their hands up rather than to support each other in their growth and to constantly strive to improve. The idea that relationships don't just take work to maintain, but also take sacrifice and power of will to survive all together.

[Anon-ymous1]

I think I'd fuck the girl on the left in the first vid, is what I think.

[NerdInDenial]

Yes of course this happens

[Anonymous]

Even she didn't know her dad was a millionaire.