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How do you feel about the MGTOW (men going their own way) movement? (Page 2)
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I think a lot of these movements are a waste of time and pretty stupid. We have way more things to worry about in this world than this nonsense. I need to start treating each other like we did 50 60 years ago with respect. When everybody looked out for one another when your neighbor had your back and so on. I understand we have changes in her life as things go on but there are certain things that you should never be changed. I'm old-fashioned and I like to stay that way. The most important thing we should be concentrating on is the homeless and the homeless children let alone our veterans who have nothing and they should have everything. They laid their lives down for us for where we are today. We need to stop opening the borders to illegal immigrants and making Sanctuary states where the taxpayer dollar has to support these idiots. I don't pay taxes to support others. Or at least not for these worthless reasons.
"I think a lot of these movements are a waste of time and pretty stupid."
^ Why do you say?
"We have way more things to worry about in this world than this nonsense."
^ The whole point of this movement is to get men to prioritize their lives. Making women not the main focus of ones life.
"We need to start treating each other like we did 50 60 years ago with respect. When everybody looked out for one another when your neighbor had your back and so on."
^ That's the exact reason why a lot of guys go mgtow. Because many women don't respect men. Sure they may say they do, but their actions more than likely say otherwise.
This is just my own opinion, but I feel that if parents raise their children the way they should have been and taught them right and wrong and show them all the things that they needed to know in life. We wouldn't have to deal with this kind of nonsense LOL if parents can trace their kids properly, they shouldn't be having any. All these criminals in prison, I think their parents should be doing some time too for not raising their kids right. If a woman doesn't respect me I remove myself from the situation and find a woman that does. What's so hard about that, nothing. Nowadays parents just push their kids off at school and expect the teachers to raise their kids, that's not the teacher's job. The teacher's job is to educate the kids and the parents are supposed to raise their kids. I come from a very strict military home. If parents cannot raise their kids and be in their lives then they should be castrated or sterile. There's no need for laziness
"This is just my own opinion, but I feel that if parents raise their children the way they should have been and taught them right and wrong and show them all the things that they needed to know in life. We wouldn't have to deal with this kind of nonsense."
^ That's the thing, many parents don't even realize the importance of teaching their kids about relationship stuff. Either that or they have no idea about it themselves. But even with the best nurturing, someone could stray from what's right and fair. For instance:
A girl could be extensively taught in her upbringing on how to be the perfect girlfriend/wife. But then when she gets older and sees that she can just manipulate her way into getting what she wants without doing her part, it can be so easy to stray from the right path. And I say "manipulate" because she sees how much she can just string men along solely based on her physical attributes. She doesn't even have to do anything in return except open her legs. And The "simps" will always chase, because that's just their nature. Both are bad, but the simps are just the prey. That's one reason why mgtow was formed. To enlighten the prey and try to fix this problem. And what's really sad is how most people don't even see that there is a problem!
"If a woman doesn't respect me I remove myself from the situation and find a woman that does. What's so hard about that, nothing."
^ Many guys aren't like that though. So many identify their self-worth based on being with a woman. And some are just so caught up in the hors d'oeuvre's that they don't notice the plane is falling apart right in front of their eyes.
But they should never base that by a woman. We need to take responsibility for our own actions and lives. Which many people don't. We were born honest, it's our responsibility to stay honest.
A relationship shouldn't be one-sided though. Equity should be the main goal. Then I believe we'll be gettin a little closer to that seemingly unattainable concept called "love."
Agreed
They have done a good job of educating men about the financial ramifications of divorce, the dangers of living together - false abuse claims, TRO's that leave you stuck paying a mortgage while you ex lives in your house, the wisdom of getting a child's DNA tested to make sure you are really the father, focusing upon your own future, and other such things.
Unfortunately, there is also a deep collectivist attitude about women - the so-called "All Women Are Like That" or AWALT themes, that are not good. To me AWALT is akin to racism in that is paints all who share some characteristics as though they are a monolithic group. No, not all women are like that. Not all men are like that. Not all whites are like that. Not all blacks are like that. etc. It is sheer nonsense.
Men Going Their Own Way my ass. For a big part of this "movement" Men Getting Triggered Over Women fits way way more. It's absolutely fine if you prefer to be single over relationships or marriage and find your fulfillment within yourself, no one is judging you for that. But trying generalize half of the population is neither a good nor a smart thing.
I agree about the generalization bit. The rational mgtows that I follow don't generalize. They often have the view of "it's not that women will make your life worse, it's that they can if they wanted to."
Everyone could make anothers life worse if he/she really wanted to. The only way to completely avoid it would be isolating yourself completely from society. Sadly sadly we are social creatures.
"Men Getting Triggered Over Women"
You, Mrs. Anon are an absolute genius! I was trying to come up with a more real acronym. But men groping their own weewee or men getting too obsessed (about) women aren't nearly as good as your acronym!
Yeah! I really dig that😀 I'll start using that new acronym now!
@Unit1 thanks, but I must admit that it wasn't my idea. 😅 This acronym is quite common in some reddit groups.
Haha, well then, keep spreading the real definition of MGTOW, friend :)
It's just the right way to put it. The vocal MGTOW members have after all brought this upon themselves.
Anon - "Everyone could make another's life worse if he/she really wanted to."
^ But when it comes to relationships, it hits harder. Because most people view intimate relationships as some of the greatest things in our lives. And to have it go wrong, can be the worst thing in our lives. So in pursuit to be informed of potential hardships, men will inevitably come across mgtow videos. Sure the reasons as to why some are mgtow can be kinda silly, but a lot of the things they say hold weight. And of course, it's always good to not take claims as facts and not generalize. I do think that needs to be emphasized more than it is in the mgtow community.
It's like those people on gaming forums who make "I QUIT!" posts. Like, men can just "go their own way." They don't need to try to draw everyone's attention to a constant, unceasing announcement of their departure. Just go!
Unless, of course, they are secretly hoping someone jumps up to try to stop them by promising to accommodate their engorged sense of entitlement. But who would do that..
You should listen to TFM, but it’s a healthy mindset to improve oneself and eliminating distractions.
What does it stand for? Got any links?
m.youtube.com/watch
Thinking-ape
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qCojVu1rslg
Thanks! I'll check them out!
They need to go down the rabbit hole further. These guys blame women for all the problems but don't see the hidden hand behind it pulling these women's strings. Women don't act like that naturally, someone did this to them and these guys don't look deep enough to see that.
And who is the hidden hand?
Ultimately global financial interests banks, corporations. They're the ones that control the press, the schools, the entertainment industry. They pump this filth into young peoples heads round the clock. They attack tradition , turn girls into thots and "feminists". They want a global Soviet style system of state capitalism with them at the top and everyone else as slaves.
Whatever the perceived reason may be, everyone has a choice in what they do/say.
True but if you get someone when they're young and you manipulate them and fill their head with Marxist ideas that's going to effect them.
Also true. That's the reason why so many mgtow aren't playing the game. You can't lose that way.
You can loose if your race and culture go extinct as a result. A lot of white babies are not being born because of this and that's what these scum want.
Shut tf up. Women dont have to be housewife and can also have sex like men do
@kim45456 That Marxist attitude will have consequences, terrible ones.
I am saying this as muslim woman who wait till marriage. It is not my life and i support women who want to have premarital sex too. Also cooking and doing housechores are survival skills
@kim45456 So you , a Muslim woman support women having premarital sex? What would they say at the mosque if you made such a statement?
Mosque dont give a shit. I have discussed with them a lot. Thanks to me some of them are feminists and not homophobic anymore. It is not our life, ecpecially non muslims csn do whatever they want
you can prefere housewifes and wait till marriage but dont force your believes on others
@kim45456 That's where you're in luck, I don't force my beliefs on others, I'm not Muslim so no bombings , no truck of peace, no stabbings etc.
I also try to stop them hate on non muslims or western people.
It's like the opposite of what men are supposed to do. Men are supposed to challenge, fight, stay strong, work it out, change, move if someplace is dangerous (like nazi germany if they were a jew).
It must be really bad to... just walk away... from women!
I wonder how much this is related to mens' testosterone dropping?
Most you hear about are like extreme women haters, so they don't seem to really being "find their way of life not being defined by a woman". And you don't have to be MGTOW to embrace their masculinity. 🤦 But same as every group to me: don't affect my life, crack on with your own.
The idea of having some self respect, and not fawning over, and massaging the egos of mediocre women, is very appealing to me. As is the idea of personal development and indeed, not needing to be defined by a woman: This is what all the men were missing out on.
The being bitter and cutting themselves off from women, because they know in their heart of hearts that they're inadequate: I can't get behind that.
If they are going their own way they need to shut the fuck up and go already, nobody actually cares.
Meh. They probably noticeable on the internet, never met one in real life. They can do as they please and it's nobodys job to change their mindset. Let them be happy in their bubble y'all.
That's a good outlook to have. 👌
*rolls eyes* indeed
*she's probably just looking at a bird fly by :')*
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UTKUY6lIMdY
Nah she was having a spiritual battle right there! Them demons tried to get ahold of her! 😂
Uh. Right.
she was cummin'
Think they took some legitimate contentions and took the reaction to those concerns way too far lol. Like they do have real things to talk about that are real issues. But their proposed ideas to make a change or just their overall mindset is fundamentally flawed/dark/overly cynicall.
Do what you want but the second you start to blame other people for your problems is the second you’ve lost my respect.
Give me an example
Humans are just good at generalizing about entire demographics to fit their agenda. I see it everyday on GaG. “All women are gold digging whores. Therefore, I can’t get laid.”
That kinda thing
So they're exactly like feminists blaming men for all their problems
Again, humans are good at generalizing
Do you say the same thing to feminists?
Hmm i would say that it's probably s good idea to be fully prepared in life in terms of career, house, car etc before dating as it can really lead you down the garden path.
That said winging it has been working out well for me.
I'm not for or against it. The definition is "a celebration of ones masculinity".
And those that don't understand it are threatened by it. Women fear a world where they have diminished control. And guys fear (notice i didn't say men) a world where they have to raise their game to compete with men who are comfortable enough in themselves to not seek outward approval.
MGTOW is not a movement
It is a philosophy, it means Somthing different to each man who hears it, and no women cannot relate to men as not having been conditioned or spent a lifetime going from boy to man thus they cannot relate Excpet to to obvious abu ses on men from society and the batshit feminist.
the guys who are really going their own way don't talk about it, they just do it. The guys who proclaim themselves MGTOW are just begging for pity from some woman.
What about the ones that claim to be mgtow to let other men know about it?
Right, like guys who have the minimal social skills necessary to attract a girlfriend are going to decide that they prefer celibacy. Any that claims he is a MGTOW is just begging for a pity party.
Men, by definition, always go our own way. We don't need to be in a special club. Understanding that women, as with any people, will drain the life out of you and use you up, is just wisdom. ANYONE will do that if you let them (and your own family is the worst).
They can say they're going their own way, but look at it objectively. Is this really their way, or have they chained themselves to something that's holding them back?
MGTOW is a reaction to a society that’s become too pro-female and pro-gay and pro-minority. Men feel left out. I mean they get blamed for everything. Like Ghostbusters 2016 bombed and somehow men were to blame- yet no women went to see that shit flick Either lmao.
Women are encouraged to become astronauts and men are labeled autistic for acting like men. Eventually someone will turn into the Joker and BURN IT DOWN.
Lol I’m glad I get pussy if these losers think that way.
@Year3000
It sounds like you are a pussy for pussy.
@joeblow123 the shit changes the way you think, XD!
@Year3000
No, it doesn't. It does if you let it. If you surrender your free will to go under its spell then you its slave. I thought the same way at 22 but I outgrew it.
It sounds like the male version of a woman saying, "I don't need a man to define me," which has been championed for decades by women. Both sexes seem to be pissed that both sexes are doing the same thing and then taking it out on the other by making up terms and stuff to try and insult them.