This is going to sound so stupid but. Its true and I guess it is what it is... a long long time ago the first time I heard friend zone I'm thinking myself what is that , what does that mean.
And me being me said okay well it's a friend and it's a Zone. And if you're friends with a girl you can't cross that Zone line or box if you do then it's now your out of line and your not being respectful anymore and in that split-second that I think this I dropped it I don't need to hear friend zone to understand you there's a line that you don't cross that's all there is to it it's called respect now I feel like maybe I should ask or maybe I should look at things a little bit different. But I can't because if I'm friends with somebody I'm their friend to The Bitter End I mean once I become a friend I am your friend forever I know many girls that I had the choice of either to date t h e m. Or to become their friends. And I can tell within 5 minutes of meeting a girl if there's even a remote chance of it working out in the long run so then I have the new choice I can pretend that I just didn't say all the above fuk em and somewhere down the road our friendship is over. I have to talk to myself and say well dude I like this person I like hanging out with this person I'm not going to fuck that off.
So now reading your post I just want to say WTF because for you to feel that that's pretty powerful it is pretty fucked up that a guy that you call friends you know what's really going on can you feel that each and every day to me that's just fucked up situation. I mean I would like that. And I was going to say get the fuck away from me
Because I've had a couple girls trying to manhandle me and in that moment I was so pissed off because I do in that moment with a girl feels like when a guy does it to her that's why it's one of my pet peeves I will not put up with that shit because the girls that have tried with me I have to literally tell them to fuck off and get the fuck away from me leave or I leave one of the other and what you just described is almost just as bad or worse I think I'm sorry the girls have to go through this and what really blows me away is that take you one of the smartest people hear every time I read one of your questions are your answers why wouldn't you tell that person to get fucked I would have had to there has to be a degrading feeling it has just be a fucked up. It's none of my business but I hope you never gave in to those guys
So what I would like to say is no matter if your girl or your guy can you meet somebody and you like that somebody depending on how much you like them there's going to be a moment in time where you have to make a choice. you know it's going to work and you want to date that person or you're honest with yourself can you know it's not going to work.
So
Choice one it's going to work you're going to try your hardest to make it work
Choice two you know it's not going to work but you're selfish if you want to get fucked so you make it last as long as possible and you lose your friend forever
Choice 3 you're honest with yourself you don't use the other person can you stay friends for a long long time
I guess there is a fourth choice to and that is to go through what you went through the friend zone whatever I still don't know what friend zone means
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No, it really isn't.
Like, I basically remained friends with many of my crushes who rejected me. I also remained friends with most of my exes. Eventually the friendships faded but just because we moved to different places or grew apart like friends would.
I mean it's important to make your feelings known rather than pretending to be friends simply with the hopes of getting in their pants one day. ("Nice Guy" syndrome, as it's often called).
But also like think about this. There's a girl you like, and you're friends with her. She isn't into you, sure. But now you have a great combination of a girl you are attracted to and a girl you can talk to about anything. Why would you distance yourself from that? Hell, one of the questions I've asked when I've befriended crushes who are dating someone else is "how did you two meet?" You can learn a lot from this. You can learn a lot about what girls like her like about guys. You can feel more comfortable interacting with girls like her. Hell, they can be a great wing-man and introduce you to other girls. Girls are MUCH more receptive to a guy if a girl introduced her to him, and some of my past relationships started this way.
I mean don't base your friendship around this or keep her as friends just for this purpose. That's just manipulative. But what I'm saying is these are some great pluses.
Probably the most important tip I can offer guys whose crush rejected them for someone else is to resist the urge to see the other guy as evil or bad or manipulative. It's tempting. And you might even think it'll help you get over her if you believe she just has bad taste. But here's the thing: If you believe all the guys who "stole" your crushes are evil, you will very quickly convince yourself that girls are into evil men, and are rejecting you because you are good. That you are punished for your good traits and must learn to be more "bad" like they are. But if you can see the good in the other guy, you will see women as liking good men. If you see how smart he is, it's like "girls like that seem to crush on smart guys". It's MUCH better for your mental health in the long run. All of this I say from experiencing it all myself.
Having to friendzone a guy who wants more is hard on both of us. I do this when I want to stay friends, but I do not want anything more and I do not want to lose him as a friend.
I never think of him as a backup, or anything like that. I truly enjoy spending time with him in a platonic relationship. In some cases I may even start to see him more than a friend, even if he does not see me that way.
Usually if I find out a friend has feelings for me, I try to make it clear and apologize if I did anything to lead him on, cause if I did, it was not intentionally.
I have also never thought of a friend as someone just waiting to fuck me, not if they are a good decent friend. Sure he may have thoughts about it, but everyone has thoughts or fantasies that they know will never happen. I may even fantasize myself with a friend but know full well it would ruin the friendship.
It is only as bad as those who make it bad, make it out to be.
Thanks for MHO
Wait, what? Any guy wanting to just fuck will move on. The ones "looming" are the ones with emotional feelings. I felt terrible having to "friendzone" such guys. One became my best friend for many years. If they're looming over you waiting for you to fuck them, you weren't clear that you're not going to put out.
Took words right out of my mind 🤣
There it is. A guy could be sexually attracted to you but if he is willing to be friends with you and put up with everything that comes with it then it’s not as black and white as it’s made out to be. He’s not a wolf in sheeps (skin? fur? wool?) he's your friend that is sexually attracted to you
That's what was said a guy who loves or has feeling will only willingly stay in that Zone if only sex was objective they would have already left they don't have that kinda of patience
You misread it. @TrueConfection
Ok. I see it now. I apologize. I was busy and I put the wrong tone with your text. Sorry!! 😘
Anyhow, the guy I ended up best friends with got over his lust for me and we had a great friendship. We stayed friends through both of us getting married and starting families. Eventually we moved farther and farther away from eachother and it was too hard to maintain our friendship now that we had new best friends (our spouses) and we were hours apart.
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u Believe it or not, there are guys who want a sexual relationship with you as a component of a much more comprehensive relationship. They actually want companionship and physical closeness as well as sex. We aren't all simply waiting for the right time to use your body.
I think men also go through that. A lot. It's not something that happens exclusively to women.
Yes because there's a difference between being friends and being friendzoned. Like for example, I know two beautiful girls who I consider as friends. I don't have any romantic feelings for them. Ofcourse, I'd be open for sex if they want to fuck but I don't look at them like that, nor do I want a relationship with them. I don't consider them anything more than friends as of right now. We are colleagues and I don't wanna fuck where I work. Now, I texted this First girl and asked her if she's free so we can talk on call because it has been a long time since we have called (sometimes we call depending on when we are free). She didn't reply to my text but when she needed my help, she texted me. This situation is called being friendzoned. Here, this girl is being friends because she wants help. She's a colleague so I'll be nice no matter what so I helped her. That's not real friendship. On the other hand, when I text the second girl, even if she's busy, she replies and tells me that she is busy and if she has time but is working, she asks me to call. This is being friends. I am very flirty in nature so I am sure both these girls think I am into them but one treats me like a guy and one treats me like a friend. Being friendzoned is bad.
You posted a double topic, with very different points of views.
Question 1: Is the friendzone all that bad?
Question 2: Can we talk about it from woman's angle, knowing there is not really friendship, just guys looming around waiting for the chance to fuck.
Answer 1: First of all, girls get rejected too and have to decide for themselves weather they can give their rejectors a chance for friendship. Friendship is a two way street, and only works if both put effort and value to it. For those who do give the friendship a real chance, at best case scenarious, the rejection becomes a blessing when both find their significant other soon after.
I am not a loomer and I dont believe there is such thing as a change of heart. When I was a loomer, I was a loomer for a real, normal & romantic relationship, not a loomer for a one stand.
So yes, for me, the frienzone is nothing more than a circle of hell on earth, burning the heart, mind, spirit and soul with the truth, like hell fire of the ghost rider.
My answer to question 2
If all the male friends you have are loomers, you have bad luck. The best of friendships with females I have had are with those who I would never date even if they would be single. Lets say you and your husband like tennis, join a club, chalange another couple for a 2 on 2 match, and the loosing team buys a dinner for the winning team, weather its girls vs boys or couples vs couples or any other way. This should lesser your chances of finding loomers.
My opinion was not supposed to leave you speechless. Maybe Im just not that good with printing my points in intresting enough ways. @Subarugirl
Buy why do women assume a man having feelings for a friend means i have sexual intentions? It does not. I admitted to one of my friends that i fell in love with her. I wasn't wanting to fuck her... its just that over time, my feelings about her progressed to emotionally attaching to her- caring about her, protecting her and her interests, sacrificing myself to ensure her wellbeing and happiness. She turned to me for really emotionally sensitive and personal things. I trusted her and she trusted me. Felt good. Thats kind of what love is. She was devastated to know that I had feelings for her... when I be here like, how did she not know?
Yup, its that bad. If you want to be with a girl and all she wants to be is friends... well with out sex the guy kind of feels like he is giving way the best thing he can offer a girl for free. Just being friends is like taking on all the emotional responsibilities of being in a relationship, but without the sex.
Lets be honest most men love women, being around women and totally being friends with women... that they can fuck. If she's not into to fucking then the guy is always going to want to find a women who can do all the things that friendship does with sex... once you find that lady that want to be your friend, fuck and date you.. well that lady doesn't want her man just being friends or hanging out for a some girl just as friends or not. And she would be right because he should be looking to her to scratch the friendship itch not some random that missed the chance to lock down a good man.
Friend zone typically implies that one person wants more than a friendship. In my experience it's rare that this is a surprise to either of the people. I think anytime two people aren't on the same page as to the nature of their relationship it causes issues. On one hand you run the risk of the woman abusing the guys want and has the ability to manipulate him into pretty much doing whatever want, on the other you have a man who could want it too much even though the woman has clearly stated she only wants to be friends and he will start coming on too strong and things get weird. Either way if you aren't on the same page things get messy.
What irritates me the most about females is that so many of them will know that guy just wants to f***, but keep him around and use him for attention. What irritates me the most about dudes, that they'll play into that and waste so much time being an emotional tampon just for a chance to get some scraps when she finally gets the tingles and butterflies (if she ever does for him).
Unlike some people, I cannot comprehend the female half of that game actually does not know that guy is just desperate for some pu$$y. It's like assuming a car salesman is genuinely a really nice person and not just trying to get you to buy their shitty car. Now if someone really is that naive, I'm going to say they're setting themselves up to be a victim of some heinous bullshit.
It's easy to blame men for wanting sex or women for being fickle, but that's not the real issue. Men and women can be friends, but a lot of us are either selfish, lack emotional maturity/awareness, or had a poor upbringing that created a variety of mental illnesses, or a mixture of all the above.
Majority of the time, if a man or woman is persistent in pursuing you and getting unreasonably angry for being "just a friend," or outright rejected, it's more than likely a mental illness/disorder is in play; because a healthy individual will be sad of course, but move on eventually.
But yeah, I've been there with a guy whom I, "Friendzoned". We stopped being friends for a while during a rough time but rekindled the friendship later on. He's now married to a wonderful woman thank goodness and a much more stable person.
I mean the friendzone sucks yes, and it will suck even more being the guy who is just there and gets rejected but then there's the whole "we can still be friends" schtick and you decide to stick around. Eventually, unless you kill the feelings for the woman it just eats you alive if you let it get bad enough, to want someone you can't have is a bad thing and does terrible things to your mind if you let it.
Really the only right thing for the man to do is just forget the woman entirely, don't see her again, don't text her, see her social media, talk to her friends, etc. Just don't be her friend period and after that just start dating someone else, might suck for the woman to lose a "friend" but its the only healthy thing for the man to do. It's what I always did even in high school, helped me keep my sanity and my pride, wouldn't let myself fall apart over some girl.
A friend is a friend & when it comes to friend zoning it does happen & I think I rather a friend friend zone me vs losing that friend completely. On the other side of things I had a girl friend zone me & after that I started going on dates. Two months later my friend zoner got really jealous when I posted a photo of my new girlfriend & I at the time. My friend zoner called me up & spilled the beans & told me she fell in love with me.
They always say you don’t know what you have until until it’s gone.
Someone who fell for you is not your friend anymore, it's someone-who-fell-for-you.
Those are very different things.
You can't expect friendship from them anymore, not just because it would be selfish, but also because it's just not possible.
They weren't "looming over you waiting for you to agree to fuck them", a person who was actually doing that would not cut you off after you have rejected them, they would just keep looming over you because there is no real downside to doing so.
Those who cut you off do so because it hurts to remain around.
I'll pose u a question on top of a question. Have you ever considered that it's not that they didn't have a real friend and that it's really about a guy not wanting to remain friends because if she doesn't like him in that way to he will essentially just keep being hurt if he stays? Like your question assumes that men end the relationship just because they aren't getting anything out of it. I literally had a situation like this where it's like well what do i do? I love her as a person too but if we just stay as friends I'm in for pure torture...
Is a relationship with someone you care about all that bad could be the alternate question. It isn't about sex if the guy is genuinely getting to know you. He maybe trying to court you and develop a bond. Some of the best relationships to be in start as friendships.
I think where the mix up is now and days is not establishing clear intentvand communication up front. Its a weird thing in this age of microwave relationships. Now and days people can just download an app and find a relationship. Girls can typically get that kind of attention almost instantly via dating profiles.
I think the important thing to note is there are two sides to this coin. You are potentially losing a friend, but the guy is also losing someone he cares about and has invested time with... Long winded answer
Girls have there own agenda , when they friend zone a guy as they have his weakness you already know that he likes you.
Girls use guys in selfish ways that are friendzoned they are there back up plans but never shy away from talking about other guys before them and most times that is knowingly.
Guys wait in friendzone not to fuck you just hoping one day that you will realise there love and one agenda they have is to provide you a shoulder when your current partner dumps you and you are vulnerable enough to seem them that they are waiting for you and you would settle for them the guy who waits in friendzone is the guy who thinks you are to good for him to be with him
Men and women often see relationships differently.
From what I have heard, women have a clear line between friend and partner. Men on the other hand see a transition from friend to partner.
What they see as bad is when expectations are betrayed. Since men expect the friendship to become a relationship, but it never happens. When men put on more pressure, women their expectations are also betrayed since she didn't expect a relationship.
In the end this can all be mitigated by both clearly stating their intentions, but that takes courage.
Except friendships are relationships
Women abuse friendships way more than guys. Take advantage of friendzone men as they know they have feelings for them. I have always seen this, always. Friendzone and being friendly aren't the same. A girl can have male friends, I have female friends who are actually friends. They help me in need and vice versa. Women freeload friendzoned guys but will never help them in need.
Just like you don't owe anyone sex, the other person doesn't owe you feelings. It's always better to cut contact to protect thyself.
Sucks to be female I guess, but that's on females. Females see every guy as just trying to get in their pants. I've tried being just a friend and just being the good person I wish people were to me and every female I've tried just being friends with has rejected or accused me of flirting, I don't even know how to flirt and if me being a decent person and generous friend and all I am trying to have is at least 1 friendship in life but can't make one then why bother trying to make friends and I refuse to talk to females in person unless I have to and I try to make it so it's never one on one so they don't get the wrong ideas.
Men normally should not be friends with women. Most of the time a man gets nothing out of it and it's the woman who is benefited disproportionately. It is what it is. The nature of female beauty and fertility is such that most men would always want something more than platonic friendship, and yes women take advantage of that to the hilt as long as they can. So I think the best solution is for both sexes to abandon the notion that they can be platonic friends most of the time.
Yikes, sounds like you were trying to be friends with some shitty people, being friends with someone who manipulates and uses you is not a friend
Guess it feels really bad cuz is like being always by the side of the person u like, but not being able to express properly your feelings and even having to put up seeing them with another person.
So, must feel like a silently and slow torture for the one friendzoned.
It's cruel and heartbreaking for them.
Friendzone isn't bad at all. All that is bad is we expecting something which is inconsiderate to others. I think we as humans need to feel more adequate. How can we do this? What I do is to appreciate the human genius behind art, science, literature etc. Just fall in love with a craft you're passionate about and having friends with opposite sex is just "normal". Maybe being put in the "friend-zone" might hurt some more than others but, a little bit of fun and knowledge would help everyone.
I hope it makes sense.
Waiting for you to agree to fuck them? no it's waiting for you to agree to let them fuck you. :)
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Well I would hope not because they would be disappointed, all that matters is that my husband wants to
@My-lover to clarify, when it comes to sexual relationships, the only person I have that kind of relationship with is my husband, so when it comes to that yeah.
It's cruel using a person's feelings against them. It's stringing them along with false hope when there really isn't any. Some women even abuse the friend zone by flirting to get the guy to do things for her. Best thing is for both to not be friends if feelings are not reciprocated.
Most women will never find out if they're legitimately interesting, or funny.
Just as many women if not more will never find out if they have any real guy friends.
8 oit of 10 times he's not your friend. Just decided not to fuck you/not try to fuck you or can't either by fear or failure
It has happened to me twice where a man had feelings for me and I wasn’t able to reciprocate, in one case I was already dating someone and in the other the guy wasn’t my type. I had made it clear they could be friends but they kept testing my boundaries so it was better for everyone when they moved on.
I don't think there is anything bad about being friends with women. Maybe I'm different but I have a hard time explaining to women that a friendship for me doesn't include sex.
For me that's part of a relationship.
The title friend zone makes it worse in my opinion than it is or can be because I've learned a lot more about dating and women than I learned from all my failures in dating.
Being friend-zoned is terrible. There's no question about that. But not all guys are looming over you waiting for you to agree to fuck them. I've been friend-zoned or rejected many times. But the instance they reject me, I lose my interest. I don't know probably it's just me. But that means not all of the guys are the same.
No of course not all of them it does happen though
Yes.
Whenever I see women get bothered by friends expressing interest, effectively what they call the realization they "didn’t have an actual friend". I think that's a problem.
In reality, women did have a friend. It's women deciding that the person isn't a friend. Girls are being dumb by getting offended by people being interested in them. That's the toxic thing. It's an absurd position to hold.
@Juxtapose I think so. They often say they want guys to be upfront about their intentions (apparently there's no notion of intentions being in flux, but okay). I believe we often mistake it to mean that success would be higher if we listened to them, but that's not the case. They're offended by your expression of interest in them because they feel like they've been lied to, even though the vast majority of the time they haven't been and their female brain just takes them to that toxic place. The chances of anyone getting what they want are worse with men being upfront, it's just a weak answer to making themselves more comfortable that's the entirely of it.
Women aren't going to change their brains, the only way to do things is to be mindful of the female phenomenon of friendzoning and navigate around it. Don't be upfront but do be flirtatious and put some pressure on. Keep a slow burn but don't be "the friend".
It’s not bad for a female who gets all the benefits of a male “friend” without having to give anything but the male who likes a girl and get put in the zone do not have fun.
They are used for the emotional support, attention, and fun but then get to listen to her whine about the asshole she is fucking and treating her like shit.
Well in that scenario that’s not a friendship that’s called manipulation and using someone. There is a difference
Yes and every female who has a “male friend” she uses for attention and to whine about other guy to are manipulative and using him
and there is not a single female male friendship that isn’t like this.
I have a few friendships with men that are nothing like that... you wanna know what we do talk about? Mutual interests and our kids...
Nope. I wouldn’t care if I’m in the friendzone with a guy even if I liked him. Just means he doesn’t like me back and he’s therefore not the one for me
I used to think the friend zone wouldn't be great. However one girl I kinda had a thing for a while back, I just discovered the other day that she kinda felt the same. I realized on my own though that it wouldn't happen between us but I stayed friendly with her and now I'm her best friend. And you know, I'm 100% ok with that. So no, the friend zone really isn't bad at all. That just opens the door to better prospects elsewhere.
Depends, certainly can be. In the situation you described, I don’t disagree. If you’re hanging around a girl in the half assed hoped of getting into her pants, you don’t really have the right to complain
Where most of us get frustrated is when we genuinely care about a girl and make it known and get denied. It hurts seeing a girl you like dating losers and getting hurt. Kinda feels like “Sorry, you’re useful but you just don’t turn me on”
Dude, if you are married or really in a relationship as your profile says, why would you ask such an idiotic question? Most people I would assume in life, regardless, male or female wants to be rejected or put in a category where they are not desired. Focus on your life and not insulting others. Even if you reject a guy on here, so what? How does that effect you?
Honestly that's what a lot of guys are these days, women actually do want friends and can be great friends for the most part. Men in terms of being friends with the opposite gender usually just want sex but i do admit that I love all of my girl friends dearly
All of this! The friend zone is a load of bullshit that degrades the idea of true friendship. Most of my best friends are when and we are just that, friends, and that is a beautiful thing! I find myself to be a better person for the friends that I have.
Amazing how women always find a way to turn things around and present themselves as victims to gain a position of power. The man gets friend zoned but yes, she is the victim here. Just wow. This thread goes to the MGTOW community, definitely.
excuse me? how is this victimizing anyone?
The fact is that Females are less likely to experience the Friendzone so they are less likely to no much about it Guys aren't gonna listen to you no matter how much you talk about so they are more likely to to listen to a Guy talking about the Friendzone.
It's not terrible but it's not what most guys who are in the zone are there for.
Think of it like this: You order a color changing lamp off Amazon. Issue is you recieve just a fancy non color changing lamp. It still lights up the room but it's not what you want. The seller then tries to convince you that the lamp is perfectly fine, you don't deserve anything more and you should just accept what you were given.
My goal isn't to objectify here just to give perspective.
The friend zone is fine if you have no romantic feelings. I can be friends with a woman I'd like to have sex with. I might think about it once in a while, but it's not a big deal.
If I have developed feelings for her it is more difficult, and intolerable if the feelings are strong.
It's not bad if you are actually a good friend. (With caveats, of course. I had to keep a distance a few times to save people's mental health. There was this one dude that the situation was really sad because he was a really nice dude, staying his friend was basically the equivalent of castrating him.)
Looming lol no guys want a woman and friendship is how things start, all natural bonds begin to fester emotions. Just nature. Friend zoning is tough for men because it means to him he’s not good enough for her. Different mindsets handle it differently. But as it goes “if you love something you best to let it go”
It's a form of rejection... so it does sting a bit. Females and males alike. Expecially if they have recently been rejected.
Not all people who friend zone a person actually intend to remain friends. But I see your point, it could sting a bit also if the person was excited or happy to be friend.
It takes a level of maturity to know your value and not be devalued by the rejection. That only comes with time and a few scars... sadly.
I can confirm, the friend zone is really really bad. I'm very often (if not always) friend zoned and it's sad as fuck. It makes your heart break into pieces... I can tell you a couple of examples if you want to but prefer to do it in dm
Maybe because that guy is not your "friend" but your tool that you use for validation and support, before forgetting about his existence as soon as you don't need him?
That's the friendzone.
you described using someone, which isn't really a friendship
not by definition, what you are describing is manipulation, there is a difference. The friend zone is a situation in which a friendship exists between two people, one of whom has an unreciprocated romantic or sexual interest in the other.
@Gal67 you can be friend zoned with out being manipulated, friend zone and manipulation are not synonymous.
@Subarugirl I think you are correct from your stand point a perspective. But most guys that fall into the freindzone """TRAP""", and yes its a trap.
Honestly, a inexperienced or dumbass guy will say they want to be friends and that friendship would be okay with them... but deep down they want o bone the shit out out of you if given the chance they would and they all think that eventually you as the girl will come around and love them too sexually.
By the time they figure out that not only is it not going to happen, but it was never even a consideration they feel like dumbasses. Becaue they feel that they were strung along because what women would just be friends with a guy and not give up sex?
The answer is lots of women would do that, which is why guys who meet women like that see her as a manipulator, teaser and otherwise waste of time. Every man has fell into the friendzone trap and many deny it or refuse to admit it as a matter of pride... but any guy who is not a complete loser or gay ever falls for it twice.
I had a female friend for over fifteen years. She is very attractive, some would even say hot. We have hugged on occasion, but never kissed. I would never have sex with her, it would change our relationship and would likely destroy our friendship.
I guess it's only bad if you don't accept that you will never be more than friends and live in a fantasy and illusion that one day the other person will look at you the same way you look at them.
That's not getting friendzoned, that's being a horny creep. People don't search for relationships just to fuck someone, there are other means to that end. The heartbreak isn't because they got denied intercourse, it's because they got denied intimacy with a person they loved.
Not for me. I mean, it's sad that things won't go my way, but hey, at least I still have her as a friend. Loving doesn't necessarily have to mean romance, it's also about respect even if it means she suggests that we should be best friends. I won't allow myself to be played by her though.
its honestly bad for both parties, men and women are good acquaintances in my opinion not actual “friends”. it’s a disingenuous way that guys pretend be her friend cuz he doesn’t have the balls to be straightforward that he wants to sleep with her and girls use guy friends for attention and as a way to make themselves feel better when they guy they’re actually sleeping with makes them feel like shit.
If I want you as a friend it’s a compliment! I dkk ok my connect with everyone on a friend level so if I do I find something special and comforting about you and I enjoy your company.
Once again you're way off base. Most women I've been friend zoned I didn't even think of sexually to begin with. Honestly it's comical to me how SOME of you women think that just every guy is dying to get in your knickers. 🤣🤣🤣
Well if his intention wasn’t to get laid than it doesn’t apply to him does it
that's because I was addressing that specifically
Yeah, nothing about the topic was sexist. This obviously doesn't apply to people are who aren't "dying to get in your knickers", it addresses the people who are like that.
Fist of all I didn't suggest anything about predators, I was talking about how it feels to realize that you didn't actually have a friend, rather someone who just want's to fuck. There is a big difference and I don't appreciate that fact that you are trying to twist it. If you misunderstood then I would be more than willing to explain it, if you wanted.
Actually I don’t like being falsely accused which is why I am responding, because I was hoping that you just misunderstood and I could explain it, but it’s starting to sound more like you would rather have a witch hunt.
You're right, your narrow field of view on who I am, what I believe and your preconceived notions don't change reality. Though because of your confirmation bias you will still claim to know me better than I know my self... but I can assure you that your feelings won't change facts. But yeah, go ahead and throw around false accusations, eventually one of them might actually stick to someone.
If it were just me that would be one thing. How many people does it take before it stops be " just others opinions" lol. The difference between me and you is when we're done I'm going to go about my day. Because I posted the truth. And when this ends it's going to stick with you and make you angry because you know I posted a truth that you do your best to avoid.
Oh honey, I'm not angry if anything I am amused. I'm entertained by this conversation and by the audacity you have to think that you have that much of an effect on me.
I mean you have made some accusations, do you have any evidence that supporting or is that just how you feel?
Hahaha 🤣 you realize that controversial questions do better on this platform and that GaG quite literally suggests to ask questions that will grab attention and encourage engagement. Looks like it works.. 😉
If I wanted attention, there are easier ways to go about that… no I want to get to level 10.
And it’s amusing watching people get all emotional and acting out because they don’t agree with one thing or another. You should should the controversial questions about religion, those get crazy. 😂
Well according to GaG “ Questions that are selected as "Great" are posts that we believe are interesting, unique, or really engaging for our community. You can earn an extra 4 Xper points if your question is selected as Great. “. So that’s what I am going for.
Whatever you feel you need I guess. It's funny because I pass on most your questions because well, they just inflammatory. They're really not good questions typically. This one was. This one wasn't some he said/ she said nonsense. It actually had to do with how the genders actually approached the friend zone. And if you actually had worded it well you might have even got a good discussion. You know assuming you actually wanted that thing rather than just traffic.
They don’t need to be good they just need to accomplish the goal. Most of the questions I ask aren’t because I need answers, it’s cause I want to know how others will respond… you can’t seriously think that I would ask for advice from a bunch of ransoms here lol
Help with what?
If you can’t explain just say so…
I’m not asking you to fix me I’m asking you to explain what you mean but if you don’t want to that’s fine just say so
Actually no, you accused me of being a troll, but if believing that makes you feel better that’s okay. And if you can’t explain that’s okay too. Im just trying to understand your perspective but it would seem that you’re more interested in arguing.
Actually what I said was “ controversial questions do better on this platform and that GaG quite literally suggests to ask questions that will grab attention and encourage engagement.”
Why are you hating on my for following the suggestions that GaG gave for posting a “great” question.
To be a troll of would have to be posting something offensive or provocative, I didn’t realize that you though the topic of friendzoneing was offensive or provocative? If I offended you I’m sorry that was not my attention and if you think that this question was inappropriate please feel free to report it.
I’m just fallowing this platforms recommendations
Wow you sure do like to try and twist my words... look who is trolling now..
When did I change position?
If that is what you think than you haven't understood anything I have tried to explain.
Oof.. you should maybe go read back through because obviously you do not understand
too bad it is way off base
Well you are since you’re wrong
hahahah Oh honey, you keep thinking that if it makes you better but if you can't accept that fact that you are so wrong than this conversation is over.
Well then maybe stop commenting on my question... You're the one who keeps responding, if you don't want to talk with me, then don't.
Oh I have no intention of stopping this is my question, if you don't want to be here than you can leave... but you just keep coming back for more. Kind of seems like you like it.
Where did I say that I was done? Because I didn't say that. You might have an easier time here if you stopped trying to twist what I am saying into something that fits your agenda, sorry but it doesn't work that way.
Answer the question. Where did I say that I was done?
No, I never said that I was done. There you go again, trying to twist my worlds again. I mean if you want more just tell me instead of just making things up.
Where did I say that I was done...
I have and I didn't say once "I am done" those were your words.
What really feels like a broken record is the fact that you keep trying to take things that I have said and twist them into something that I didn't. That is a prime example. If you want my attention all you have to do is ask, this whole trying to provoke me into bickering with you for attention thing is cute but, kind of pathetic...
Honestly you're old enough to be m father, and while old guys can have their charms I am not interested
Nice reverse psychology trick. I responded because I felt the question warranted a response. As I've told you most of your question don't. I didn't even look at your age though unlike you looking at mine. Why? Because I have zero interest in you. You're in a single word "gross".
Ohh so now you don't think twisting what someone says is okay... lol alright
You literally keep saying that I am saying things that I never said…..
No you have been twisting things I have been saying, rephrasing them into something different. The proof is in the pudding buddy. You're seeing things and reading into things that aren't even there.
and you couldn't give one example without paraphrasing... what were you saying about reality?
You para phrased hon… you didn’t quite me. You know what it means to quite someone right?
Oh you meant the quote makes on the things you paraphrased…. Yeah that’s not how that works hon.
Says the guys who can’t even prove it…. 😂
If you're still sticking to your story that I said I am done than you are still wrong.
Let me take a page out of your play book and tell you the same thing you told me.
You're like a broken record. Scroll up! I'm not going to keep repeating myself
Well it’s not fault you’re in capable of understanding what everyone else does. So for… you’re the only one experiencing comprehension issues.
*so far
Ohhh you found a typo….. congratulations
Women should understand that they do NOT have men "friends". Only men that are friendly. This is more true of the young though.
Well that’s not true lol
Yes it's bad. If it's friend zone, then it's bad. That is pretty much built into the definition of friend zone. If it's not bad, then it's not really friend zone.
I don't think that guys who you friendzone want to fuck you and leave, I think they have true feelings for you that is why they stay and wait for so long that you actually get to become friends.
It's the same reason people hate being stuck in dead end jobs. Stagnation sucks if you aspire to greater heights.
i have two female friends who i got zoned by in the 90s who i had dating intentions and although i still think the gorgeous and sexy
i respect and value them as friends nowadays and enjoy taking them out with no expectations….
I was going to write something here in response to this, but others have already said it better. You don't seem to understand what being "friendzoned" involves, not one bit.
Friendzone: a situation in which a friendship exists between two people, one of whom has an unreciprocated romantic or sexual interest in the other.
There's much more to it than just that dictionary definition though. It's also usually the case that the other person knows about the romantic attraction, but doesn't reveal that fact; instead, he/she uses that vulnerability as leverage. Favours are asked, they're taken advantage of, with the implication being that, "If you do this for me, I'll be EVER so grateful!"
That's not friend zoning that's manipulation, there is a difference
Actually its not. What you are describing is manipulation, which can happen when someone is friend zoned but are not synonymous.
I'll try a different approach.
Friend - a person you can count on, because they have your best interests at heart, because they actually, sincerely like you.
Friendzone - thinking that someone likes you, but they really don't. They're just pretending, because they want to use you, and they've discovered something about you (your romantic interest in them) that allows them to more effectively do this.
By the way, I speak from experience here, and no, I wasn't interested in (bleep) ing them. I understand there are other ways to manipulate people (so the two terms are not exactly synonymous), but when someone is friendzoned they are most definitely being manipulated.
If the guy really liked the girl in a romantic sense then yea its bad it sucks emotionally. If they make a big deal about it because they wanted sex then they are a wussy.
Well, the friendzone is pretty bad. But yeah, I agree. It is up to men to just get out. Leave and find better luck with another woman.
it's only bad for the guy if the guy wants to be with her romantically or sexually
if not it's for that it is fine haha
i am in many friendzones and am fine with it
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