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Do Men "REALLY" believe women "want" to be lied to or is it just another BS excuse SOME men use to justify lying to women? (Page 2)
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Women don't want to be lied to, they do want to hear just specific things and they can't handle the truth.
Which in practice means that they get lied to a whole lot.
If men would be honest with women, humanity would long since be extinct.
I disagree with that
@Brainsbeforebeauty miss brains muffins, it seems that @ky-a have a point there, some women do not tolerate the truth and you know that when i tell you something it means been there done that...
They prefer to be lied to, but since i'm an honest man i got hated because i said the truth and the guys who lied and went with the flow were glorified...
The same guys came to me later and told me: "see pal you must know how to make fun on a woman since their brains is the size of pea" and i told them that i'll never be this man and their reply was: "then always stay hated"...
I'm happy the way i am miss brains and i don't need everyone to like me, it's enough that i have a smart and lovely entourage who likes me a lot, whether irl or on the net and you're one of this entourage 😌
@TonyMetal___86 wait, I like you🤔 hahaha kidding kidding lolol
I have telepathic abilities naughty spongy, i can read you're mind and soon you will see me in the mardi gras reading palms 😈
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Women don't want to be lied to. But women also don't want to be told the truth. What women DO want to be told is whatever makes them feel best at the moment.
Or as women are so fond of saying: "its not what you say, it's how you make her feel"
Really? Cuz my neighbor (male) cane over once after I hadn't slept for days and had been crying and I scared the door to "Man, you look like shit" yeah I gave him a sarcastic reply but wasn't mad, he wasn't lying lolol I looked worse than shit lolol same neighbor would compliment how nice I looked, or how fast/good I clean up. . Made me feel/know his compliments were sincere, cuz knew he wouldn't lie just to make me feel better, some women do prefer and respect the truth.. And when you lie based off what you assume women want, you're ultimately destroying your credibility with that person and their trust in you... And me personally, I don't care if someone likes my truth or not, I'm gonna tell the truth anyways cuz I'm not a liar
One specific example about one specific woman doesn't disprove a general statement.
Neither does generalizing about people based off what YOU think make it true🤷🏼♀️
Woman asks her husband if he thinks she's getting fat. What should he say?
You've put some weight on yeah
Yeah, sure. Meanwhile, the vast majority of women would consider that grounds for a tantrum and a massive amount of shit-talking behind his back about what a bastard he is for not telling her she's "perfect just the way she is" at the very least, and possibly even divorce.
I have no reason to doubt you're being honest about yourself, but this question is about women, not you. As in, you're literally asking people to talk in generalities. But yet you're criticizing me for speaking in generalities. Sure, SOME women are ok with blunt honesty most of the time, but MOST women want to be told what makes them feel good
Reality is when a woman is saying she wants honesty she is says she wants u to be honest to her so she can quickly disqualify you. Women dont like to give up sexual leverage so the work hard to make men think being honest somehow benifits them. In reality it only benifits women because any successful man knows that if he was honest w/ woman it wouldn't get
him what he wants. Hell just read what happens when men are honest w/ women on this platform.
I think they do. I've had several admit they'"tell me what I wanna hear" but they don't mean it
its chris how are you?
I do not know any woman that likes to be lied to. It is a BS excuse if a man is using it.
EXACTLY!!
Bingo... I've watched know the truth. But will call the women on it just to start a fight so they can justify what they really want to do.. I see it on here a lot it's so stupid and when they get cought doing it it's more than funny stupid
It’s not cool to treat women like dirt… no I’m sure they don’t want to be lied too….
Exactly!!
Hey Brains how is your day going?
Would be better if didn't have upset stomach among other "issues" (🚽)
Ahhh hate when that happens…
Right! Especially when you're at work.. Left early though and don't have to be back to work till Tuesday, so hopefully feeling better by then.
Don't help it's hard to get in the bathroom at work cuz the lazy people sit in the stalls on their phones for 15-20 minutes 🙄
Ahh hate that shit!!!
Right!! Bad enough when you just have to pee lolol not to mention of I'm stuck working with one of the people that do that, cuz then I end up doing my job and theirs🙄
What kind of work do you do?
I work in a distribution center and do a little of everything
Yea same here I drive truck for a grocery distributor…
Locally? Home after each shift?
Yea I am a couple of guys spend the night in a hotel room just to take off there 10 hrs…
Oh okay...
I don't/didn't lie to them, explaining my short visitors' list.
Sometimes when people are mistreated by the ones they love they mistake mistreatment for love
I've never heard of that situation or had that cross my mind. Doo some women want to be lied to?
I can only answer for myself and the other women I know and that would be a big no
It's the bitter ones crowding this site who say women only chase jerks when really women "tolerate" them or they can't care less about it so long the guy is a bad boy and not a bad person.
Not all women want the bad boy
That's what I said
But this question was related to whatever appeal, if any, was held by dating a bad boy.
Not really.. this question is about men thinking women want to be lied to,
Never to lied to my wife. It’s bad in the interim but then when I say something good to her, I got loads of credit.
In some instances women want to be lied to. Like when they ask you "do I look like I'm gaining weight?" when they're obviously getting fat
But that's not what we're talking about...
But your question is just about women wanting to be lied to... It doesn't specify any real specifics beyond that...
Yeah read the threads, that's guys saying it's okay to lie to women if it gets them sex, yeah cuz women really want to be lied to just so guys
Submitted too soon, just so guys can get sex from them🙄
That's great. I'm talking about your question which doesn't mention any real specifics. So i mentioned one area where women do seem to want men to lie to them for some reason
Sometimes, especially for women, a comforting lie is better than an uncomfortable truth; especially if believing the lie has a better outcome for her than hearing the truth. I believe those are what we call "white lies".
these are not men... period.
👍👍💯
So true.
of course women love being lied to, why do you think they get so mad and find you repulsively reject you whenever you tell them your TRUE intentions
Women shouldn't reject men who just want to use them for sex? But men can refuse women who just want to use them for money? You don't see the hypocrisy I in that? Anyone, regardless of their gender, has a right to refuse someone who just wants to use them
"Women shouldn't reject men who just want to use them for sex? "
first off you can't USE PEOPLE FOR SEX, sex is a mutual thing that both parties agree on before the act. during sex you dont lose anything and nothing becomes expendable therefore there is no way you were "used for sex." so if you have sex with someone and felt used afterwards then you were obviously expecting more than just sex. of course I'm not saying you have to automatically have sex with the guy who wants to bang you, everyone has their right to say NO.
"But men can refuse women who just want to use them for money? "
well yeah unlike your vagina money itself is expendable and takes time and sweat to get, nobody has to waste their hard earnings on things that dont payoff if they dont want to and if you think having sex entitles you to his hard earning then you better not deny that you are a prostitute. a lot of times this is why I prefer actual prostitutes instead.
so therefore it seems to me like you're the one that's failing to see the hypocrisy and even worst just like most typical women in the west you're seeing it from a very selfish point of view because it sounds like you believe that having sex with someone entitles you to their hard earnings. but in the end yeah I still agree with you that everyone has the right to say NO; but for some odd reason the reason why most women say no have always sound so illogical to me
So a man in a relationship, fucking around and lying? And I don't use men for money, I make my own.. Me and my husband bought our house TOGETHER, we BOTH paid the bills, we BOTH took care of our kids, and NEITHER of us lied to the other... There's things I and I alone knew about my husband, and those things I knew died when he did... And if a man tells a woman he wants a relationship just to have sex with her and then dumps her once he gets the sex, that's Not using someone🤔
Yeah sure buddy, okay...
How do you know if he’s in a relationship? And I’m glad you’re actually considerate enough to care about this cause there are a lot of bimbos out there who just love fucking married men like if it’s a fetish or something; Marilyn Monroe was a prime example
And I never said you were a gold digger yourself. I’m just saying that it’s wrong for a woman to use a man for his hard earned money but doesn’t make sense to me that a man can use a women for sex since sense is a mutual act that both parties have to agree on before the act
But can you at least explain how is it that you can USE someone for sex?
If you lie to a woman, just to get sex? How is that not using them? What's to explain? 🤷🏼♀️
And if she agreed, based on a lie or false pretentions? That's really not mutual agreement, now is it?
"If you lie to a woman, just to get sex? How is that not using them? What's to explain?"
in that case then I can understand he tricked you and what not but I still dont understand how he USED you because when you use someone you often gain something out of that person and during sex nobody looses anything. regardless women this brings back my original opinion on how women loved being lied to. cause I always hear them complaining about the same shit? is it just a coincidence that women love to open their legs to the men that loves to trick or in your case used them the most?
"And if she agreed, based on a lie or false pretentions? That's really not mutual agreement, now is it?"
again that is her fault for believing all the horseshit the guy told her. like come on, didn't your mom ever thought you not to take things from strangers when you were a child?
Only strangers lie? Husbands don't lie to their wives? Women don't lie to their husbands?
And the same could be said about if you stupid enough to let a woman use you for your money, it was mutual, because you should of known better, right? 🤷🏼♀️
"Only strangers lie? Husbands don't lie to their wives? Women don't lie to their husbands?"
I thought this whole post was about men believing that women love being lied to, could of swore it was about the initiation of dating aka when couples meet for the first time since that is the time lies are told the most.
"And the same could be said about if you stupid enough to let a woman use you for your money"
I agree 100% but unfortunately a lot of men believe that they can buy themselves into a woman's heart and you will be surprised how many women are actually proud and love taking advantage of this. that is why me personally I pay real prostitutes and other sex workers cause at least they are honest, give you what you paid for and will never bother you again after they provide you their service
I don’t think they want to be lied to per se. But dating is about drama and excitement and when guys say things like “you’re the most beautiful girl I’ve ever seen, etc.. etc..” girls are often aware that this is hyperbole but allow themselves to be flattered by it because they too want to be close to another person and want what’s happening to continue and understand that much of courtship is a game and know they have to play along if they want to get laid.
You shouldn't have to play games to get laid
Not for women but it's different for men. Men need to do whatever they need to do in order to get what they want from women. Sometimes that includes lying. Women dont like it because it takes away some of there sexual leverage but lying to women is an age old tradition because like this post proves majority of women can't handle it when a man shares a different opinion then them.
@Vegasrunner so you're justifying lying to women to get what you want from them? So some are just something for you to get something from... But then men say women shouldn't use men for their money, but hey it's okay to lie to women to get sex from them... And men are said to think more logical🙄🤦🏼♀️ and there's a difference between can't handle and disagree, and a lot of men also disagree that women want or should be lied to, but nice try lolol
@Vegasrunner keep in mind this woman is 49. The advice and words that come out from a woman's mouth at this age often differs from her action and behavior in her youth. You often hear mothers tell their son to be kind and respectable to girls and be a good beta provider. When in reality, broke Chad is banging all these girls in their youth and you have to wait till their over 30 and messed up in the head for your chance.
Look at a woman's action and not her words.
@Lookingforthetruth yeah I was married and had two children and stayed with the same man for twenty years till he passed away, so do the math, but nice try insulting cuz of age 🤣🤣
Flirting is a way of playing, it’s a game, it’s supposed to be fun. And there’s a difference between looking for a good time and looking for a long term relationship.
@Lookingforthetruth Yea I realize that, but this is why I enjoy this platform because you get women to put in writting a lot of feelings that goes against their actions. What women are saying when they're asking men to be honest is be honest to me so I can quickly disqualify you. Women dont like to give up sexual leverage so they try to force men to be honest to them. In reality if men were being honest every guy would just go up to women and say "I just want to bang you" obviously that's not going to work as well.
@Brainsbeforebeauty Yea, lying to women to get what you want is fine. It's more difficult for men to get women then vice versa so they're going to have to do what they have to do. It's just one of many double standards in gender relationships the issues comes w/ women only like the double standards that benifit them.. Yes men are more logical because logically men realize they can't just say what they really want from women because it wouldn't help them at all. I realize that's hard for you to understand but that's mostly because you only are looking at one side of the relationship.
That is bullshit. Just an excuse some man has made.
In my experiences over my many many decades of dating women... YES 💯%
Women cannot handle the truth
What truth can't women handle? Oh and all men can handle the truth? Yeah, sure okay
Ouch that’s all yours “Brains”
Just another BS excuse
You got that right!!👍
It’s a bullshit excuse men made up.
Right!!
I mostly lie just to troll--it's usually clearly bullshit.
Women don’t like being lied to.
But the reality is being too open with most women is not the greatest way to catch one. Nice guys finish last for a reason…
I never lie, but that doesn’t mean I tell them everything either unless I have to
Most men don't do that.
Oh I know!
Not just women, but us guys too. We ALL crave the moment when we're going to hear that next lie! Don't you?
No, actually I prefer the truth, the truth might hurt, but lies hurt more, and break trust
I was being facetious
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I think the 'break it to me gently' principle applies. Some women plead to have their feelings spared. Sometimes, that implies that they would have to be lied to.
If they wanted to be lied to then wouldn’t they know their dude is lying? If so then it isn’t a lie, it’s just a fantasie. Or we’ll, it can be a lie, but if anything they’re lying to themselves
No one wants to be lied to, but maybe some people can't handle the truth.
No some of you definitely want to be lied to lol.
Let's not lose our damned minds.
Nobody wants to be lied to
Exactly
Major BS rationalizing!
Right!!
Do woman "REALLY" believe men "want" to read the sort of post you made before responding?
Then don't read it🤷🏼♀️ but there's plenty of men that did😊
Men who lie and deceive women are often rewarded with sex, relationship and children. So yes women do seem to want to be told sweet lies.
I don't believe that women want t obe lied to.
Sounds like just an excuse that men make.
Some yes, not all
Yes, not all.
I'd like to believe no-one wants to be lied to
Right! Noone I know anyways, male or female WANTS to be lied to...
Some women prefer or would be happy white a lie. This is true.
I don’t think anyone really appreciates dishonesty
It depends, if I want to break up with her then being honest will take care of that.
Nobody likes or deserves to be lied to.
If I tell the truth they rush to beat me, if I lie they trust me.
~ Saint Kabir Das
I don't think they want to be lied to, we just have no choice. It is common to get rejected as a virgin so the only way is to lie about not being a virgin to finally be able to have sex
That's no justification to lie to someone
You think it's okay to lie to women to get them to have sex with you? Yeah no it's not okay
You're right I did a bad thing to do but I was feeling so horny and it was the only thing that finally worked. I felt bad for lying but my life got much happier and improved because that. She wasn't a virgin anyways and her being lied to isn't as bad as me getting in further depression I was afraid of ending up like alek minassian
How do you know being lied to wasn't as bad for her? You don't.. You were just thinking about yourself and your feelings, and not how you make someone feel when you lie to them like betrayed, or stupid for believing/falling for the lies.. But hey, as long as YOU felt better... Selfish much?
Yeah! Women NEVER lie to men!
I think I said I know women lie too... This wasn't about of men or women lie, who lies more.. This was about guys saying they lie to women, cuz women want to be lied to, and that's just bullshit
No one wants to be lied to!
Exactly my point
It's just BS!
I agree💯
nobody wants 100% honesty
I do
and how's that going for ya?
Worked for me and my husband for 20 years (and no we didn't divorce, he passed away)
No, we have seen their response when we lie to them. It favors us greater to lie to them, rather than to tell them the truth.
Bullshit!
And your don't lie to favor yourself... You tell the truth because that's what decent human beings do... So it's okay for women to lie to you too favor herself then🤔 no of course you'll say it's not🙄
no most women just like evil
Lied to about what?
It's ok to lie to women, their not human like us.
Oh get out of here with that bullshit.. And of course, hide behind anonymous, how typical🤣🤣
Blame G@G for allowing the option to go anonymous. 😛
So it's GAG's fault you left an idiotic reply🤣🤣 sure, sure it is lolol