Why are modern women constantly losing out on men?

Question

Of what I've read, Relationships in the 50's weren't filled with so much turmoil. What went wrong for women? What aren't men or women understanding?

Qdbrown · Accepted Answer

Most younger women under 50 are not really going to undsrstand the issue. Many women over 35 might begin to understand, but until they experience it, you might as well argue into wind.

Younger women only see endless amounts of guys, especially if they are on social media and dating apps. They could see up to 100 interested DM's coming back, per day. They only respond back to the best ones understandably.

The problem is, women have a huge sea of men to choose from, and many average and regular guys get picked over. Whereas in the old days, they would have had smaller groups, and more people got to date and mate within some smaller dating pools.

Now we are seeing crazy statistics that show 30% of men under 30 have never been on a date nor has ever had sex with another person. And they are not sitting at home hoping. They are researching and learning all kinds of things that takes them through black pill Incel world on the Internet, the Red Pill PUA world and many older guys explain it down through the MGTOW world directly or indirectly on the Internet. Some of this advice is helpful, some not so much. The net result is more and more guys have left the dating market.

Of course some guys happen into relationships later on. But the take-away is that many do not want to mess around with a well-used women. They do not want to become a step-parent or raise another man's child.

And the shift is interesting. It takes a few years, but many guys find after dealing with women, that uncommitted relationships are the best way to go. These guys learn that it's fun to have a girlfriend until she becomes too much, too expensive, and jump ship to start back over. Many men can play this game as long as they are healthy and have a great attitude.

As a result, many women are being neglected marriage and commitment. Even more oddly, the latest generation of women do even know what that looks like, and in fact enjoys new guys every so often, to keep the butterflies and not boring.

Seems like an evolution where everyone get's what they want? Let's revisit that group of women near 50 again. They often find they are now invisible. If they have good genetics and looks, they can keep a boyfriend on the hook, but most become loners living with their pets. They come across as bitter, and sad. And that's when you really hear it, that had they known, the whole picture, they would have found the first greatest guy who excited them, had a good thing going, and grown old with them. Watching their kids grow old. It's only then, do they even begin to understand why women are women, and men are men.

Sadly, we try to teach kids that everyone is equal and no one should have to do anything they don't want. Even if it helps civilisation go on.

FilmGuy93 · Accepted Answer

The genders just talk past eachother all the time. Men don't understand that women are doing what they are because they're scared. Women don't understand (and in many cases openly refuse to acknowledge that what they're doing is emasculating and alienating men.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

I think it's cos in the past, some decades ago. One of the most important things and fundamental, was marriage. My mum tells me that there was pressure on them to marry, at least for women.

However,

Nowadays, it's a total 180° spin.

Of course there's still the more old fashioned and traditional families, but overall the the priorities have changed. Studies, qualifications and career are at the top of the list of Top Priorities.

And on top of that, relationships stopped being something so sacred and special a long time ago.

We now have: casual/open/polygamous relationships, dating apps, porn websites, etc...

So, the thing is that almost no one takes relationships seriously anymore.

Both, men and women.

And the ones that do, most of the time struggle finding someone cos the truth is that it's hard to find someone when what you want is a serious a long relationship.

• Women may be loosing out on men more nowadays, cos the top priority is not marriage anymore but career.

Few people are really invested on getting a real connexion, that's not just for fun or a one time thing...

Apple1996 · Accepted Answer

They were brainwashed by feminism so they don't understand what it actually takes to be a good girlfriend/wife.

MzAsh · Answer

I’d never want a relationship like my grandparents had in the 50s.

Lionman95 · Answer

Because many modern guys are just not attractive to a modern woman. Men and women have gone different paths that separate each other not come together. I don´t think it´s just a woman´s fault.

Because feminism is so attractive to girls because it gives the feeling many women crave to be heard and seen and acknowledged for their work. Being at home doesn´t give you that same acknowledgement hence modern western society is a society that is ruled by money not by values.

A housewife´s work isn´t paid so it´s easy to take it for granted which results in it being talked down and makes it less attractive than a career.

I think one of the biggest problems is that many men can´t keep up in deeds what they promise in words. They contradict their words with their own behavior no wonder no woman is interested in them for a longterm relationship.

You can´t jump back in time so it´s time to humble people again and destroy that self-entitlement in yourself first and then in others because that´s the disease that it killed romance.

CA4444 · Answer

I don’t know, I feel lost as a woman, like I have no guidance on how to be a woman.
I think most of us have unhealthy attachment patterns due to early abandonnent issues (mainly with the father figure?), we want to be loved so badly but don’t know what love is and we forget to seek meaningful connexions and relationships with men. I think this is a reality for many young women with issues in their relationships (or lack of). At the same time, like everyone, we have to be independent.

Men are not nearly enough respected by women in society. Narcissistic behaviors also result in a lot of hate toward the opposite sex, and same sex also actually. Unfortunately many women hate men on some levels, and the mothers are teaching that to their daughters. Sometimes you could say it’s justified, sometimes it definitely isn’t and really doesn’t help.

hIopinionated_ · Answer

What’s wrong with women is the fact that men can’t control us anymore without violence and or manipulation. Modern women have options now (thank you feminism): we can work, own property, aren’t shipped off at 13 to marry some 30 year old pedophile, etc

Also, there were studies done proving women are happier and have a longer lifespan when unmarried with no children but it was the opposite for men though.

Pretty sure I can imagine why women are happier without being married. . I mean history literally set the standard for women. All those gender roles that only benefit men, women are distancing ourselves from that. Well at least self respecting women, women who actually cares about the rights of women’s so that’s about, half the population of women. So men like you definitely have options for pushover women (in the Republican Party)

7barbieringz · Answer

I love how a lot of people are blaming porn lol but I agree it's porn, dating apps, and social media. But for men and women.

It's easy to just find someone new now, no need to really work it out and stay committed. Back in the day women had to stay with men because the men were the bread winners. Now women can make their own bread and aren't pressured to get married or have kids, so most end up waiting.

Side note but I also believe this is why roe v Wade was over turned. Because the birth rate is declining here, and the government/big businesses need future workers to exploit. If there's less people then they're value goes up and they have to be paid and treated properly. So they're basically forcing us to have kids instead of fixing all the fucked up shit.

ManOnFire · Answer

White-feminism has poisoned the world. Not all white women are bad or feminist - there are some white women I like in a friendly way on this site - and not all feminists are white, but it is white-feminism that is enormously responsible for the downgrade in today’s women and in our society’s sexual values.

Anonymous · Answer

My last boss said "any woman under 35 is basically a whore". "Women are what guys used to be". Most don't want relationships. Or more accurately they want all the perks of a relationships without any of it's limitations. While i don't fully share his opinion. Most women do create faux relationships (basically hookups and friends with benefits's). It fulfills thier desire for a connection albeit temporary. The real truth is most women have no clue how to commit to a guy. Feminism has taught them to compromise is weakness. And you really can't have a healthy relationship unless both parties are willing to compromise.

slatyb · Answer

Why do you believe that relationships were less contentious than they are today? There were plenty of unhappy couples then, just as they are now. The difference is that today fewer women are financially trapped in a marriage, and it’s easier to divorce. That’s a good thing.

Marushka · Answer

It's mostly the fact that people realised they don't need to be stuck in awful marriages until the end of their sad lives. Divorce is easier and more socially accepted than in the past. People expect more from relationships and are more likely to split if they just aren't in love with each other anymore. Being single is also more socially accepted than in the past.

Anonymous · Answer

I didn’t even read what you wrote but.. we are looking for a fault we are lowering our kind! We are blaming men or women or feminist! You name it.
Yet we don’t want to see the truth…
I can’t even type it I feel stupid to do it I might offend someone who’s a little bright out there. Or ofc you won’t accept it.

You have to start from scratch ,, Do you think dating apps are there for people to mingle? Have some fun and get married etc ! As if !

Women and men are looking for this Specific prince or princess out there.. no Disney don’t play a role 🙄~ what are you looking for? You married a women , you married a man ! OhhhH fuck he doesn’t make me hApPy~ what do you want? What’s happiness? Life doesn’t have an EXIT by April 20 2045 I’ll be happy!

Do you need to have cancer to learn what life is about?

Damn we do deserve those Pfizer’s not gonna lie

Sixgunsound · Answer

In the 1950s, America had an external enemy that the powers that be needed our focus on, because we were willing to pay them to keep us safe no matter what the cost. Now that we no longer have exact peer competitors, they need us fighting each other and purchasing a false sense of security from them at the cost of flatlining race and gender relations which they have deliberately engineered.

ElementoP · Answer

In the 50s, women were expected to keep a smile and suck back their tears or get smacked in the face

I'm not saying that's ok, but feminism should've stopped with putting an end to that. It's gotten out of control and I've never seen anything good happen when you give a woman full reign to do what she wants

ArtemisSilver · Answer

Most women can't seem to figure out basic stuff like cooking, keeping a nice clean house and being reasonably submissive/loyal or how to care for children.

It's kind of weird, like career is great but that's not what a man is usually going to want from you.

Anonymous · Answer

Why are modern women constantly losing out on men? Because they are trying to act like men, men do not want a relationship with a woman that acts like a man which is how the current wave of feminism is telling women how to act. Until women realise that then they will continue to be 'constantly losing out on men'.

Men want a partner that will compliment their strengths and weaknesses not try to have the same strengths and weaknesses which while would be fun in the short term, would lead them to clashing ego's in the long term and would cause any relationship to implode, crash ans burn..

Anonymous · Answer

The options for women back then we're limited. Women were expected to marry and have children. Men expected to have a career and provide. Defined roles.

Now women often have further education and successful early careers. Pitting them directly against men. They are told they can do it all themselves. They're not told they don't have to.

But then, biology hasn't changed. Most still will have kids. In the rush through education and career, they have less time to setup a stable relationship and prepare for children and family life. It's a big change of gears and or varies as to how well they transition.

isoterminal2060 · Answer

To be perfectly honest I was married in early twenties and divorced before I was out of them mainly because we just grew apart professionally and emotionally as our careers took off. Hindsight being 20/20 we were just to young to be married. I speak to my wife every other day even though we're only friends

Subarugirl · Answer

Lol women aren't losing out on men, we just aren't forced to be dependent on having a male authority figure in our personal lives so we get to chose who we want in out lives.

HonestAssholeJ · Answer

Two things:

Social media and woman empowerment

Social media ruined most people on proper love interactions and social aspects.

Woman empowerment of a strong individual woman. Men as harassed etc.

Men will just pass for another without issues/hangup.

It's a new age!

dustybiker · Answer

Men and woman without extreme thought process haven’t even noticed a change. Real respect and with it earned trust, they are two qualities that go back to the stone-age.
People with a problem don’t really respect so will never earn trust until they do. Fault highlighted by a modern movement.

Phoenix98 · Answer

Feminism has a lot to do with it.

The feminist movement is a classic example of die young enough to b a hero or live long enough to become a villain.

But there are definitely other reasons that contribute to it, society being one of those things, the lack of two parent mother/father households. Alarming amount of single parent households, among other things.

Anonymous · Answer

Girls have as many issues as we boys have.

I remember that one girl was not interested in me because my depression was visible on the surface level. But she herself was seeing a psychotherapist much like i did. Too bad. I found her quite attractive.

fonduegirl · Answer

They didn't have any feminism back then. Haven't you read Jane Eyre? They literally used to marry into rich families! If it works out good, if it doesn't — no other choice available. Your children suffer, the husband suffers, and the wife does too. Happy marriage!

DarkWinterNights · Answer

Because of differing values. Most women value independence, a career and sexual freedom over being held back in a marriage with a man they don’t respect. Men have been brought up being told they were part of the problem and now become a lost generation. They have no purpose, they have no drive to better themselves and they have no future. In turn making themselves even less datable. Unfortunately we’ve brought up women by tearing down men.

Sarahplus2 · Answer

The 1950s were different time. Men were the breadwinners and the women stayed home with the kids. Women rarely worked.

This_Is_My_Opinion8 · Answer

There was a boom in divorces after they were made easier by Ronald Reagan.

It made easier for women do leave unhappy marriages. Women's suicide rate fell 20% thanks to that.

Those relationships in the past where smoke and mirrors. People stayed married, because they had to.

OddBeMe · Answer

Oh see, in the 50s…women were getting beaten, raped and fcked in every way. Now they have jobs and even the pay gap is equaling out. Slowly, but its equaling.

Funny how women are better at some jobs than us. And here we were, keeping them at home with our fists.

Weapon77 · Answer

The short answer is hookup culture and things like OnlyFans are destroying dating and relationship dynamics for around 50% of all young people. Dozens of reasons why. Too much to type here without making it an essay.

shaysh87 · Answer

I dont think modern women are losing out on men. I think its modern men who are losing out on women.

Anonymous · Answer

Because women were expected to be submissive or be punished their whole life. I try to be submissive myself, since there's nothing good about me. But, personally, I doubt they were that happy in their marriages. Suppression drives me crazy, though I haven't learned to hold back enough, always holding back probably still has a negative effect on people who can do it.

Anonymous · Answer

Women were not better off in the 50's. It's kind of obvious that by going back to that time, you clearly want to lay some blame at the feet of the 60s, either through the growth of the feminist movement or the sexual revolution or contraception or whatever.

TheSpaceGnome · Answer

They aren't. Everytime I bump into some great woman I have everything in common with, she's already taken (or not in my country). The type I want get snatched up really fast.

grega239 · Answer

Feminism convinced women that being a homemaker is being submissive. Having a career is better than a family. Being a promiscuous whore is the way to go.

And possibly the dumbest one: being like a man. So instead of being a woman, they are now 2nd grade men while complaining that men are outperforming them is patriarchy.

Its not patriarchy. Its the result of them attempting to take on male gender roles while being thousands of years behind.

Avicenna · Answer

I’ll suggest something that to maybe hasn’t been mentioned- less economic and financial stability.

chicosuave · Answer

Women have become emotionally weak. They can't handle anything

Jd9hybfd · Answer

Men want respect but aren't respectable today

Tommy789 · Answer

Honestly, I think women expect too much and the whole new concepts of open relationships and internet porn ruined intimate relationships as a whole.

CasaNorba · Answer

because their expectations on relationships when up the roof after the 1960s. I'm also not gonna lie but we men aren't helping ourselves out either for the fact that we think relationships are all about sex only

WhiteBoyChill · Answer

Well for one thing there are far more incel men that can’t talk to women these days. I’d say the blame lies on us. We’re suppossed to be the ones leading and governing society.

ronaldo75 · Answer

Look at the responses. Nothing is their fault. Ever. And when all else fails they play the victim card.

TonightYouu · Answer

Feminism has destroyed our society it’s put men down for being men and makes women think they are worth more than they really are

Grond21 · Answer

The sexual revolution threw the baby out with the bathwater. And the bathtub, and the bathroom, and thousands of years of discovering and building quality relationships

KrakenAttackin · Answer

Because modern women simply became too good for mortal men.

LimitedBenefits101 · Answer

Simple answer FEMINIST.

VaasMontenegro · Answer

Men are slowly but surely waking up thanks to Red Pill👍 This is what happens when you give women "equal" rights

Juan4574 · Answer

Contemporary women are of poor quality.

Exterminatore · Answer

Feminism is the culprit.

Dinklex3 · Answer

We aren't.

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