At 5'5" I have had no lack of women shorter than me and taller than me telling me I'm too short. I'm not even looking for a long term relationship, it's not like anyone has to show me to their family. I don't know what to do but something has to change.
I think part of it is instinctual. Women tend to want someone taller, bigger, for protection. Although being taller or bigger doesn’t always mean a man can fight. A lot of them want to feel like a lady. The smaller of the two. That a big, strong tall man can scoop them up in his arms. Even in society when you walk up to a group of men people tend to approach the much taller dude cause they think he’s in charge. Height is obviously something you can’t control so you’ll have to go about this from different avenues of approach. Whether that’s making a lot more money, gaining status, etc. The tricky thing w that is does she want you for you or for your money. I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing if women wants a partner who makes a good amount of money. Because honestly if you’re expecting her to bear your children, she’s not going to be able to work for a while. Maybe even till the children are grown. So that would make sense to be able to provide for a family. Now if she’s just w you cause she wants bags, money, materialistic things than no she’d be out the door. Would you be ok dating a girl who is much taller than you?
Shorter guys have protected me way more than taller dudes. Some of the taller ones are just lanky and can't even fight
I think it has less to do with your physical size than it does with your inner size. In my experience with “shorter” men- both professionally and personally- some can be very insecure. Quick to blame others and refuse accountability when things go wrong. I suppose the physical shortness contributes to their frail self image. In any case low self esteem is very unattractive to women. Improve self esteem and the attractiveness issue won’t be an issue.
case in point, many fighter pilots are shorter in stature. But they are confident as hell. The few I’ve met are quite successful with attracting women.
Girls reject 6’3 men on almost daily basis, if these men don’t offer anything else other than, good looks, height and wish for sex and short term relationship…
So, if you are 5’5 and the competition is big, you should be providing relationship, love and care for someone to consider - Choosing you over a man who might be more attractive to her…
My brother is 5’11, he likes short girls, many tall girls like him, short girls too, I’ve been telling him to go for a taller girl instead, because you choose a petite woman at that height and you’ll end up with a son that will struggle in the dating world…
I’d suggest you to go for girls your height or a bit taller… And offer them something that taller men don’t offer them : Love, Stability, Relationship and Loyalty
Being under 5’7 or over 6’3 is not a dealbreaker. I just prefer they be 5’7-6’4… 5’3/4/5/6 are all still taller than me but I just know what I prefer. I dated one guy who was 5’6. So i’ve made exceptions to the rule depending on other factors regarding the guys looks and personality
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Because women want the man to be taller when they take a photo lol
I was being funny hence the lol
@coachTanthony : Technically true, but also irrelevant here, as nothing said here constitutes humour.
@coachTanthony : Right. Of course. The one using "lol" as punctuation believes others are stupid. Have you considered purchasing a mirror? Maybe a dictionary too.
Here is the truth in my opinion. 1. Women want tall men, baseline, standard sexuality. 2. Most men are not as tall as women wish for. 3. Most women must settle for less than they truly want.
Short men are at a disadvantage yes. But also, your competitors are in short supply. So in reality the disadvantage for you is much less than you think.
I see hot girls with short guys all the time. I see hot girls with guys who have zero musculature and could be broken like a twig far more often than I see women with large masculine men.
I feel like the smaller guys are winning right now tbh.
m It’s only really a dealbreaker for those who let it be. I have friends that are 5’4, 5’5 or so, they manage to tap off with girls without many problems. They are realistic though, they do not expect to pull girls who are 5’8 upwards, they do but it’s not an expectation. A lot of girls are 5’0 to 5’4 and that is where they get most options. Social media also pushes this fairly rubbish thing about height, no one really cares about height, hair colour, eyes colour, skin colour, ethnicity etc.
I think people care in terms of preference but i dont really see it being a dealbreaker
@DizzyDesii yeah they care to a point, they may have a preference for 5’8 and above girls, then meet a stunning girl who is 5’4, then they are like 5’4 is perfectly fine. It’s only a dealbreaker for those that let it be
The more intelligent a woman is, the less often and intensely height will matters to them. I'm 5'9". An older woman who's around 5'3" told me that she dated a man over 6' tall once and didn't care for it because their faces were always so far apart.
Exactly i dont wanna stand on my tippy toes or he dang near drop to his knees to kiss me
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The answer mainly has to do with how much men can get insecure over height to the point where a lot of women just don’t want to deal with coddling that particular insecurity on top of all the other ones a man usually has that he relies on a woman to soothe in a relationship
It isn't about stature. Short guys have a bad rap because many suffer from a Napoleon complex. They're aggressive, angry, insecure and abusive.
You can break the stereotype. I had a 5'6" friend in college. He was prematurely balding but to his credit, he was outgoing, humble and very funny. At parties he was always surrounded by girls.
Right. Like the shorter guy i dated as well as the ones i liked back in school never complained about their heights. They were strong and confident and great fighters. They could pull a lot of girls. I only see men complain about their on here… and my current boyfriend. He whines about being 5’9 but there's no way he's that. He looks taller than my 5’10 friends unless he just has better posture
For real woman size never matters. Fake women are nothing but show off, they want to show off tall, handsome, rich, six pack abs, swimmer men.
Bro, You'll get your honest real woman who'll be intrested in your good kind hearted personality, stability, simplicity. Most women regret dating one of those tall rich handsome fella who eventually leave them. So stop worrying about it.
It is NOT a dealbreaker. 99% of the time men have far more flaws than their height, but they have to blame their failures on something, so height is an easy cop-out.
I will explain it to you
Although there is a minority of women who do not care about their partner's stature, the majority pay a lot of attention to this factor, women look for physical prowess and protection in a man, and in tall partners they see these characteristics.
Height is not synonymous with protection. Plenty of short men are capable of protecting, but that alone doesn't increase women's attraction.
I agree with you, but women associate tall stature with protection.
Well something has to change, it can't keep going on like this.
where are you from? how tall are the women in your country?
I live in Mexico, and contrary to popular belief, the people aren't that much shorter here either. I'm still the shortest person in almost all situations.
Yes even in Italy the situation is the same, many people believe that Italians are short, when in fact they have become almost all tall, both male and female, even I feel very short in certain situations, women here always demand tall guys.
That's a cope. Height is absolutely synonymous with protection. There's a reason why there is weight classes in fighting sports. Bigger people = better fighters. There's a video on youtube of Conor McGregor sparring with Hafthor Bjornsson that perfectly illustrates this. McGregor is clearly the more skilled fighter but it's obvious that Bjornsson would break him in half just because he's so much bigger.
You have got to change your attitude. Your insecurity with your height bleeds into the rest of your personality to the point that women can smell it on you.
@tremendousfern And there's a video of a 4'11 guy knocking out a 6+ female boxer. There are videos of tall guys running away from fights and leaving their women there. Not a cope at all.
I got told I was creepy for preferring women in their 20s (I'm 29) who are petite stature (short women, think 4 foot 11 to 5 feet 2) or so. And I'm 6 foot. I think what it says is that people can be harsh in all sorts of ways, as much as people can have preferences that differ and their own heights differ. ah well 😃 chin up good stranger man ♂️😃
Got told it in one of my recent questions by a woman. Anyways 🥲
Everyone’s different with different deal breakers 🤷♀️
My boyfriend is 5’5 and never had a hard time with women. A couple of friends are about 5’6 and don’t have issues. There are plenty of women that don’t care.
what she said ^
Men wants girls with pretty faces and bodies because of superficial reasons, why shouldn't I pick men because of such superficial reason like being tall?
That's not true at all. The only kind of men that put those requirements on women are the tall attractive men that women flock to in the first place, and all men get blamed for it.
Dating is social skills sales. Your job is to take her negative cutting remarks and flip them positive without it bringing you down. If they see you emotionally go down…you are done. So come up with witty flirty responses.
"I'm not even looking for a long term relationship" - most women are, maybe they can sense that in you? 5'5 is really short unfortunately so you'd have to compensate for it a lot with other things... but there are girls who don't care about height. Maybe just not the ones that you'd prefer to date, but you'll find her eventually.
Not good enough. I shouldn't have to adjust myself over something I didn't choose. I don't want, "eventually". Nor do I think my height should be something I should compensate for, the problem is women making it to where it's the worst thing in the world.
Maybe that's another problem? Putting responsibility for your own shortcomings on other people? Here's the thing and I know it might be a hard pill to swallow but it's true. For straight people, therefore for the general population it is women who decide what makes men attractive and it is men who decide what makes women attractive. Just like women can't decide for men what they're supposed to like about them, neither can men do it about themselves. The sooner you start seeing the world for what it is and not for what you'd like it to be the easier life will be for you. Being that short IS a significant flaw for a man to the extent that women generally don't want to be with guys shorter than them, just like being ugly is for a girl to the extent that guys don't want an ugly girlfriend. Both need to compensate for those with other qualities or be single. Think about it - an ugly girl who's also obese, or an ugly girl with a bombshell body? A short guy with no sense of humour and entitled outlook or a short guy with great personality who's always positive? The thing is - no one owes you to be attracted or you or seek a relationship with you. Depending on your attitude you can absolutely stay single forever even if you're 6'5 and saying what the world "should" be like doesn't matter because you cannot control other people. It's like claiming that with your height you want to play basketball professionally and shouldn't have to adjust yourself over something you didn't chose... well then you won't be picked to be on the team, it's that simple. Maybe you can couch the children's team. Unless you compensate for it with being really good at other things to the point that your height becomes a non-issue compared to other guys on the team. Dating works like that too, both men and women want to get the best partner they can for themselves.
And why is being short have to be such a significant flaw for a man? Why did women collectively decide that?
Try to find a guy who is even shorter than you, like 5'2, to stand next to at parties. And don't stand next to the taller ones. Be the taller leader in your group.
Like king of the dwarves if you'll forgive me. Women love kings. King of the hobbits, king of the hobbits, but don't stand next to the elves.
[*] King of the hobbits, king of the [dwarves], but don't stand next to the elves.
Relative is more important than absolute. I've conducted enough experiments. It's not about your absolute height, it's about relative. So never take a wingman to a club who is taller than you. Always shorter, equal, or fly solo.
Don't condescend to me.
I'm not. This is serious advice. It applies for all aspects. If you are the smartest person in special ed, you'll seem so smart. It's not absolute absolutes but relatives. You are only too short if you are standing next to a taller guy. Get it? Or are you mentally handicapped too?
I'm five-nine and it's because we're conditioned to believe desirable men are six feet and taller, though some ladies love us shorter lads.
@handsomelad70 My point is that everything is relative. A PhD from Alabama state university will seem like a wizard to people from Alabama. A person who is 5'5 will seem tall surrounded by people who are 5'1. A person who can benchpress more than an Olympic barbell will seem like Hercules surrounded by pencil necks.
This is an extremely important secret about human psychology. It doesn't function in an absolute way. It functions relatively. If you want to be popular, all you have to do is manipulate the relative and the environment. You don't have to compete on the absolute. The internet age has made people obsessed with the absolute.
Like this:
Dwayne Johnson is 6'4. But relatively standing next to such a tall man, he looks so teeny, like a hobbit. It's all relative this way. If you want to manipulate your perception of height to people, all you have to do is be more selective about who you stand next to in a social event. It can make a world of difference between women approaching you vs. women approaching the taller guy next to you.
This cannot be serious advice, with all due respect. First of all I'm always the shortest person, I can't remember the last time I saw a man shorter than me, so I'm not going to find a whole group shorter than me. And even if I did, what makes you think other short would want to congregate together based on shortness and allow me to be their "tallest leader". The only thing that would do is just position ourselves to be targeted for stigmatization.
How tall do you think I am?
And why are you referring to me as "this person"? Like you got some fucking social defect on top of your height defect?
Tall enough to have an easier time finding men shorter than you.
Just a few inches taller than you. Maybe we're off to a bad start. I apologize if that king of the dwarves thing pissed you off. It's something I embraced being relatively short myself so I donned that label proudly and didn't realize it could upset you. I know it's a bit of a manipulative tactic and questionable in terms of ethics.
But if you can't find any friends who are shorter or same height as you as wingmen, the one thing I recommend is just try to fly solo. The one thing you don't want to do is have a taller man hovering over you right beside you while you're trying to connect with a girl at a social event.
All parts of charming girls brings into question ethics. It's a skill game for most of us. I even consider having won my wife now of 14 years a sort of skill game in the beginning. It worked itself to genuine not long after. But I needed a lot of skill and attention to this type of stuff to win her over. I don't think we can just be so genuine and abandon any notion of skill and charm and practice and just expect to show up and get the love of our lives unless we're so charming, so famous, so rich.
Skill is important, and one of the most important and useful skills is psychological manipulation. There's always an ethical boundary with that. You don't want to use it for purely selfish gain. But understanding how people work psychologically is a path to overcoming any physical faults you or they perceive, since with skill you alter perceptions. Mastering this skill was key for me to win my wife; I lacked the height, wealth, fame, etc, otherwise.
How 'bout five-feet former all-time great World Boxing Council Flyweight (112 pounds) Champion Miguel Canto?
The 'king of dwarves' comment did not piss me off. I just thought your advice came off as careless, or effortless. I see that you were being serious, so I stand corrected. First, I do not think you are relatively short, as 5'9 is the average North American height. I agree what you said about not having taller men hovering over you. But that's just another layer of calculation that makes you pretty much have to dwell in a lot of avoidance.
You seem very well knowledgable in this topic. How helpful have these skills been for you?
@handsomelad70 Being a world champion definitely helps!
Actually my bad to everyone. I'm a bit off-kilter since someone deleted my answer on my previous post and I got a bit pissed. It was immature of me to be so assertive with this answer.
I think to the asker though, this is a skill game for those of us who lack natural ability. It is something to practice. But what I'm trying to encourage is a mind strategy over a body one.
You pay attention to what charms girls given the hands you're stuck with in life and what doesn't. Take notes. Experiment. Observe. Your potential is unlimited that way so long as you can learn; your potential for learning is unlimited.
The uncomfortable part I think is the ethics. You don't want to cross over the ethics of psychological manipulation that makes women think you're something you're not, in the same sense that you don't want to market a product in a way that gets customers demanding refunds. You want to shin the best possible light on the product, but you don't want to mislead people about the product. That's the ethical boundary as I see it we should never cross.
But you do want to market yourself and you can overcome a lot of the faults in the body this way with the mind if you're careful, experiment, observe, take notes, make iterative attempts at improvements, back them out if they don't work.
>> You seem very well knowledgable in this topic. How helpful have these skills been for you?
Cheers! 🤝 They were quite crucial as I see it. At least I'm a very nerdy type first and foremost. Being very aware of myself and my perception to others, the social environment, they were all keys to changing my life around.
I actually thought in my teens, no joke, that I would live and die a virgin. I was so hopeless with girls. And I kept listening to that kind of advice like, "Just be patient and you'll find that special somebody." "Just be yourself and you'll find that lucky someone." You know, that sort of bullshit.
So I do like a romantic and genuine way of being but I did need to kind of work on things a bit to start getting dates and girlfriends. I can't change my height. I can't change my nerdiness. So I mainly focused on physical and social, most important was the social.
Apologies again for my belligerence. I need to head to bed now since I've been up so long and I'm deeply ashamed that I let myself become belligerent and impatient. Please forgive me.
I thought I overcame that immaturity but I just completely lost my cool after getting one of my long-winded answers deleted and went all bull-headed and turned into an ass. I'll reflect on it and try not to let it happen in the future!
But skill -- skill skill skill. For many of us guys, it's a skill thing. I think that's truer than just show up and expect to appeal to women without it. So always find ways to improve. And rejection is a good thing. It's not a bad thing because it's better to know you're not a girl's type sooner than later. So it's always win-win to ask a girl out.
The problem with sayings like, "Just be yourself and be patient and you'll find that special someone," is that it doesn't imply much effort. Being yourself is good but you have to show it and you have to put it in a good light. Being patient is good but you have to put yourself out there. So always find ways to see progress. Never limit yourself with your height and see it likes there's all possible progress is impeded because of it. There's endless room for progress whether you're 5'5 or 4'2 or 6'8. Focus on your footsteps, not the point on the horizon.
if your height is the only thing you can offer... then nothing will change...
All the guys I know who are 5"5 or less are married pretty fast, except the annoying ones. But thosr repel both men and women alike, so it's not a gender issue.
You haven't found a woman that found you attractive yet. Someday you will meet a woman who appreciates you for how you look and your personality.
Get started talking to women though and asking women on dates. Stop caring about rejection.
remember women want men to ask them out on the dates
This has been correctly answered by @laly520
You could try surgery for spine and legs. If you are majorly desperate though there are some risks and it is fairly costly and their is a decent recovery time.
I'm a shirt girl, I believe most women especially if they have curves or extra weight. Most women want to feel petite and feminine. My theory.
Weird. Sorry that’s happening. Until I joined GAG I didn’t realize height was such an issue for men. Or women! I’m short though so…
For the same reason being a "curvy woman" is a "dealbreaker". It's not for all men/women, but it is for some. Welcome to human attraction.
Being Vertically Challenged could be a deal breaker to some but if she’s hot she’s Fun Sized.
nope... you are taller than i and most females
Women don’t wanna be taller than you when they wear high heels and unfortunately, they judge guys by their height and don’t give them any chance to get to know them for who they are
I'm the same hight. Married 20 years with 3 kids. It's a numbers and time game. Stop wasting time on loser connections. Study the right connections and attack them like a sniper
You can't hit her cervix? Oh, wait... that isn't what you meant?
Stay single then. Enjoy your own company. Get used to it. Interpersonal relationships are overrated. Let humanity die out.
My cousin is shorter than me, and I'm only 5'8". He's been married, had kids, got divorced, and is now dating a new woman (from england), who now lives here
I'll let Randy Newman answer this in the universal language of song:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/T3W4ZOlA08g Sorry to break it to you but you might have a bad personality.
I see so many short guys that are in happy loving relationships.
People always have it worse. I ask why is being an Indian a dealbreaker?
Because women are shallow and hypocritical.. Sure be into tall men, but when said men wants skinny with big breasts or something it's wrong..
Nah women can never accept what they dish.
Please notice that the guys telling you it doesn't matter are all taller than you are. Try Thailand or Vietnam for better women.
I suspect that its because they are better at picking berries/fruits from tall yet fragile trees/bushes.
Evolutionary mismatch.
well since average height for men is 5'9 u r below average but its fine
there is girls out there who won't care about height
I'm not saying they're not, but why do they have to be so rare?
it shouldn't be that way, that's why something should change.
Do they prefer, or do they require, because preferences and requirements are not the same.
Well that's not a reality one should accept. People should be promoted and encouraged to be more open minded and be more flexible when it comes to height.
You'd best work on some other attraction skills, my friend!
Anne Bancroft, 5-10, married Mel Brooks, 5-5.
It’s not a dealbreaker for me.
It's noooooooooooootttttt
I'm 6'5 and I still get rejected sometimes
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