Will guys and girls ever find a real middle ground?

[DishLady]

Growing up I absolutely LOVED this song and always thought this is how men and women would be with one another... Reality of course set in and now I put it out to the forum... Will guys and gals ever be able to "meet in the middle:?

[HawkPerception]

I'm not gonna lie. I don't mean to be one of those guys on this site that women hate or anything, but I can't exactly change my views just because someone says it's negative.

With the gender war that's going on and the media and radical feminism fueling it, which is increasing the amount of women that say they don't need or even want a man in their life, as well as dating apps which fuel their ego and encourage people to stay in and swipe rather than go out and socialize, I don't see men and women finding a middle ground any time soon in general. Of course there will be some folk that understand our differences, embrace them and work as a team, but it seems to be a low enough amount of people where it's concerning.

I do think that some people are waking up and accepting that men are men and women are women. We both have our strengths and weaknesses and we're all individuals with unique traits. But I feel like that movement will take more time to build momentum. I'd say it'll happen when all those women grow up and don't have families or partners of their own and realize they might have made a mistake.

[DishLady]

It's true, what you're saying. (The song is from 1991 and problems were already starting then.) I think part of the issue is that the concept of feminism took several wrong turns and now means something VERY EXTREME that wasn't intended by the original founders of the feminist movement in 1930s-40s Europe, which still allowed for feminism + femininity to co-exist. Today what we're experiencing is a total s**t show. :(

The media doesn't help -- just look at this ridiculous "Huck Thua Girl"... 🤦🏻‍♀️

Society seems to reward crazy, loud, negative people more than anything else. The dignity of humanity has been eroding because of it...

Do you think that if folks (men and women) just looked at relationships as romantic partnerships it would improve social modes of thought? Because what everyone is dealing with right now is really just such a mess both socially and emotionally...

[HawkPerception]

I absolutely believe that if men and women looked at relationships solely as romantic partnerships, it would definitely improve social modes of thought.

The majority of people (like 99% of them) used to live poverty in the past. And they would still find love and stick with each other through thick and thin. Don't get wrong... the dynamic in relationships was different back then too and a lot of people got together more so out of necessity than love or at least that's how they saw it. Having kids to help with the farm work, etc. But there were couples who genuinely loved each other in those times.

Media has portrayed this life of luxury and if your partner does not help to to achieve that standard of life, then they're not a plus in your life.

Relationships have become very transactional and cold. Very few people live up to the words "through thick and thin" anymore.

It's not just about money though. It's about a man's value in society. We were taught men are protectors and providers, but nowadays where we have already built all this technology, and people can literally work from home, order groceries from home, call for house maintenance from home, and literally never have to leave home, men don't see our role as easily.

More women are graduating from college and universities, which translates to high income potential than men. It's just increasing the gap.

[DishLady]

You're right -- about the historical hardship stuff and about how cold things are now. :(

I hate when a person -- male or female -- is reduced to one thing, whether it's money or sex or whatever... Human beings are such amazing creatures. I wish more people would remember that... We're in the fast food/instant gratification culture now with an overwhelming degree of input from the social media. You know what they used to call the TV? "The boob tube" (meaning the screen for idiots) because kids used to sit like zombies watching the screen. Now we're 24/7 on screens, so what does that make us all? :( :(. :(

I do believe everyone should have a good education -- male or female. I don't think that does anything to increase the gap specifically since many people meet in school... It's more about understanding our own value -- what we truly bring to a relationship -- and the value of each person around us. If we each love more appreciative lives I really do think we'll be able to make more compromise towards a middle ground.

[HawkPerception]

I agree with you on your last part especially of "If we each live more appreciative lives, I really do think we'll be able to make more compromise towards a middle ground."

But there is a gap that's being made in education in society.

https://youtu.be/DBG1Wgg32Ok?si=_LxDbYL1KxyUrarZ

And here's another video when it comes to men vs women in online dating (not that online dating should reflect the overall dating world)

https://youtu.be/9547hkXTGHw?si=Zi8iIx6LDLoYdgzu

[OlderAndWiser]

I am not at odds with women. I treat them with kindness and respect unless they do something to show they don't deserve kindness and respect.

[DishLady]

I know, @OlderAndWiser. You're a real gentleman. Your posts always show you know how to find the point of compromise, respect, etc. :)

[OlderAndWiser]

Life is much better when it is not consumed with anger.

[DishLady]

AMEN!!!

[handsomelad70]

Same here, OAW.

[OlderAndWiser]

Thanks for MHO!

[DishLady]

☺️☺️

[AI Opinion]

Oh, the quest for that sweet middle ground where guys and gals understand each other perfectly, like finding a unicorn in a field of ponies! It's the dream, isn't it? The reality, however, is a bit more like a dance. Sometimes you step on each other's toes, and other times, you glide effortlessly together. Communication, empathy, and a bit of humor are your best moves here.

Yes, it's absolutely possible to meet in the middle, but it requires both partners to be willing to take a few dance lessons. You've got to be willing to listen, adapt, and sometimes, let the other person lead. It's not about losing yourself in the process but blending your moves together to create something beautiful.

Remember, the middle ground isn't a mythical place; it's built through daily understanding, respect, and a bit of compromise. So lace up those dancing shoes and get ready to tango through the complexities of relationships. With the right partner, you'll find that rhythm. 🕺💃

[TonyMetal___86]

Nice old country song miss dish 😊

When everything used to be so simple, when everyone helped and cared about each other!

I surely believe that a man and a woman can always find a middle ground only if they want to 😌

Here's a song from me to miss dish 😁

"Does anyone remember laughter?" 🤣🤣

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ly6ZhQVnVow

[DishLady]

I love this song. Thanks, Tony. :)

[TonyMetal___86]

You're welcome miss dish, i believe that you're this girl who's glittering from the 70's, even though you were a toddler backthen 😄

[DishLady]

Lol.

[mandyfire98]

Sure many men and women do. It's when one or the other think that they should be 100 percent dominant and their significant other should take a step back and only support them and live for them alone is when there's an issue. When any human being decides they're the main character is when issues arise.

[sirderpsalot123]

I don't have a problem with most women. I like to think most women dont have a problem with me either lol

[handsomelad70]

Only if they decide they aren't enemies and should be partners.

[LordMadara]

today im not in the mood FOR WOMEN 🖐🏽

[LiamJHayden]

A lot already do.

[DishLady]

❤️❤️❤️

[NathanDavis]

never been an issue to me

[serious]

I doubt that can happen.

[DishLady]

😔 . .

[andreasderjuengere]

''Middle Ground'' is a compromise.

[DishLady]

And…

[andreasderjuengere]

... and compromising here makes no one truly happy.
I prefer to be with women who are a match.

[DishLady]

You misunderstood the question, but ok. I hear you.

[andreasderjuengere]

And I spoke :D
Please clarify, then... I might want to spoke again ;)