Is an average woman doing her husband a favor if she cheats with a superior man to give her husband a superior baby that her husband will be proud of?

[Kelley1]

Dad with future scholarship college athlete

Average women marry average men but a woman that is a six can have sex with a man that is a 9 or even a 10.

There is plenty of data showing that fathers who are college, pro, and Olympic athletes often have children who are elite athletes, beautiful movies stars often have beautiful children, and brilliant parents often have exceptionally intelligent children.

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Whether horses or people the best have far better odds of producing the best. Owners of top thoroughbred mares pay stud fees of more than $100,000 to breed to a champion thoroughbred but will not pay a dollar to breed to an average thoroughbred.

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Approximately 99.9% of genes are shared by all human beings. This means that despite our individual differences, the vast majority of our genetic makeup is identical across all humans, with only a tiny fraction of genes varying between individuals.

Therefore, a child sired by another man is 99.9% his child. By cheating with a superior man, all the women are doing is selecting 0.1% (the best 0.1%) from another man while retaining 99.9% of her husband's genes.

[V_Injector]

Normal men are more invested in continuing their own genetic line. That's why deception is commonly used by women who have this exact strategy in mind.

So I think women are likely to agree, but I think most men wouldn't want that (cucks are a different story).

I'll say this much... when I go out there looking to bang some strange. I'll post a shirtless pic and guess who responds the most? Yeah, gay men, but let's ignore them and look at the women. They all are in relationships or they are married.

[Kelley1]

Before DNA tests, a man would have a strong bond with his sister's children because he was 100% certain they were related but he could not be certain he is related to his own children; that is, his wife's children.

[V_Injector]

Or his brother's wife's children... it works like that, yes.

[spartan55]

Yeah, sounds like a great idea... 🙄

[SugarSugarplum]

No. It's not his kid. He should kick you both to the curb.

[Kelley1]

It is 99.9% his kid.

[PrettyCrumblBb]

Are you mental?

[Kelley1]

Would you choose to have an inferior to average child, when instead you could have a smart talented child?

[PrettyCrumblBb]

With your logic, your mom should've cheat on your dad 😂😂 To give him dad a smart kid

[Kelley1]

The question does not apply to my parents because both are well above average. Therefore, the slight advantage of having sex with a slightly superior man would have been more than offset by the problems that can result from cheating.

[PrettyCrumblBb]

You literally look average.

[Kelley1]

That reply shows that people will lie when they don't like the truth. Regardless, looks are only one factor. My SAT score is the 94 percentile. Even getting admitted to SMU required an 88 SAT percentile. However, I expect you will find some way to lie about that too.

[PrettyCrumblBb]

I was only going on your looks because that's all I know about you. Obviously your parents were not above average if you came out looking average.

[AmeerX]

She doesn't look average to me though 🙄. I think she is beautiful but her logic about superior genes seems off to me. She is thinking only a woman is allowed to cheat. If her mom was below average then maybe her father could have gone and done something to improve.

by the way, you are both wrong about the concept. Intelligence doesn't come automatically from genes. It only affects our phenotype. A lot of things go into intelligence including nutrition, food, brought up.

In my culture we say the mice in the home of a judge is also wise. What it implied is if you are in company of good people you will get good and if you are in company of bad people you will be bad.
A child let's consider that people thought her parents were dumb with low IQ can still out achieve his or her own generation of kids.
Last I checked the last Tsar had a child with his cousin marriages and his son had hemophillia or sickle cell anemia sadly.

[AmeerX]

Like I said before, two people who are considered losers in their own ethnicity by their own standards when they come together can have both the most beautiful and amazing children 😊. Remember they were considered losers. This is called hybrid Vigor.
It's been well observed in Animals and Corns and some other plants. But Kelley1 you are missing a fundamental basis why this eugenic theories and hypothesis are bad. Ever heard of street smart? I am not going to deny I thought like you and still think about it as the greatest chance of experimentation and survival in the world for people as a whole but be honest the physical appeal can be fooled, people show off a lot. A person maybe earning 6 figures but also heavily in debt at same time. You might think high earner is better while for me a person who is a saver is better.
6 ft is again not a criteria for superior genes because height of Goliath was huge but at the same time David killed him so what's the point 😂. A woman cut the throat of a king just so people don't invade her City. And longer height means they are good at some things, but at the same time Chinese with short height are smarter than your average score 👀.

[AmeerX]

Now people in most Western countries cannot stomach water in Asia. You can even see sign boards that say, " This water is not suitable for European stomach" they are there for a reason. They have become soft overtime. They need that micro plastic water 😂and they certainly have difficulty adapting in Developing countries because if the things were as simple as you said, they would have taken over the world by now but no, the fertility rate went down and population in America and most of Europe cannot sustain even with more wealth in general

[Kelley1]

@AmeerX You must love to point out exceptions but exceptions don't make the rule. With billions of possible gene combinations, whether thoroughbreds or humans, it is impossible to predict the outcome of a single mating. However, the probability that the best will produce the best is far better than the probability that the bottom will produce the best.

[AmeerX]

@Kelley1 your point is duly noted but how do we determine who is best?
White people? Black people? Yellow people? Brown people?

Then in those where do we find out who is best? People with baldness or without them? People with black hair? Blonde hair? Red heads? Ginger?
As you said the outcome is unpredictable. With Eugenics based breeding the black girls would be extinct and next is black boys. As crime rate is higher in them.

Show us a criteria an ethical one, not a cheating criteria because that's out of question as why would your or my or anyone's parents marry if they both don't like each other's genes? Even in arranged marriage cultures they keep emphasis on find the best physical traits but not always.

In Fascist Germany they had such breeding places where maiden women would get pregnant with the Heers best soldier genes but it failed and by your logic it should have won them the war but it ultimately was USSR and people of all 200 ethnicities residing in USSR that toppled the dream of the Master Race.

[AmeerX]

Have you even seen the practice. It was unethical but let's neglect that for sake of this discussion.
And I am not pointing out exceptions but reality honey. The master race was so master then why did they fail? Tall heights more than Stalin who was 5 ft 2 I think, blue eyes not found in Slavs and Nordic features. But they lost. Socialism prevailed afterwards.

And trust me, Russians are not white but they are extremely beautiful, they look darker than myself but the way they are made you're yourself far from them. Ever heard of imperfect competition in economics? Well, a 100 of you cannot physical beat a woman who is naturally born a Russian or Slav.

Even gypsy 🙈they are the best in my opinion next to Russians and Slav people in general. They are how people in my country are lookswise. They have not thought of race like you are thinking, they came to European continent more than 1200 years ago and still have not mingled much with Nordic community. They are dark and some do have gained blonde hairs but all in all they have still retained their own identity and beauty 😍.
Anyways, please tell me what mechanism do you propose to ensure filtering out best people from the inferior quality people?

And this might sound weird but please go read Gregor Mendel's laws of Genetics. You clearly don't understand that some genes remain hidden in women and they pass on to their grandchildren if not the children so you might think a man is physically fit but the woman can still hold diseases as recessive and pass on diseases. Men also do the same but men's diseases of genetic nature are easily visible as they express more easily due to Y chromosome not keep same genetic data available on the X of a woman for their children

[PrettyCrumblBb]

@AmeerX I never said that intelligence is solely determined by genes. I said by her logic her parents were both average since she's average looking. And I based it on her appearance since I don't know anything else about her. But then again, she is spewing this nonsense 😂😂 so many she is dumb.

In my country she's considered average or even ugly. We have high standards here.

I love Gregor Mendel's work! That was my favorite thing to read about in Biology class. 😊
And I was just reading about this yesterday too.

[AmeerX]

😅you know if she is ugly I want that ugly girl hahah. She is considered very beautiful in my country. Anyhow, beauty is subjective I guess.

[PrettyCrumblBb]

@AmeerX Well you come from Pakistan. I come from the home of the most beautiful people in the world (celebrities/models/ actors). You'd be surprised how many people are considered ugly compared to your country. I've noticed your country is more lenient when it comes to beauty.

[AmeerX]

😅no wonder people want to go to US so much. I won't lie, we like fair skin and pretty much that's it on physical traits. 😂Hazel eyes are considered eyes of clever people and I have only seen 1 blonde person in my life and he had Albinism.

We have beautiful people but they come with too much arrogant and bossy attitude that you would want to just pass on them 😂. Beautiful the girl, the more her value even if she is dumb

[AmeerX]

And can you please refrain from saying she is dumb. She is only 20 years old. it takes time for people to develop maturity

[Kelley1]

@AmeerX A couple of your arguments lack logic. Even if all German women instead of a select few were bred to elite males, Hitler/Germany could not create a master race in only one generation. In 500 years, about 20 generations, selective breeding can result in substantial improvements. Horse racing is an example of selective breeding. A dataset of British races going back to the 1800s found that horses have indeed been getting faster.

Most people will agree that there are several factors that determines the best. (1) Athletic ability--Olymicians, professional athletes, and college scholarship athletes. (2) Intelligence--IQ's above 130 or even 120. (3) Income and wealth. And, (4) Mental health. You don't choose psychopaths, schizophrenia, and other mental disorders

[AmeerX]

Can you wait 500 years for this experiment? It's unrealistic because life just happens. People have to pay bills.

Working on the exclusion principle of genetics, by your logic all women should have children from only select few people in the world and then their offsprings will be strong but won't the next generation or generation after that all going to be siblings.

Like in generation 1 let's call it G1. You have entire world population at 50 males and 50 females. Now imagine 20% of males are worthy of mating so all 50 females have breed from 10 makes. They have say 5 children each with no guarantee of either gender.
But for simplicity we say, 125 are females and 125 sons. And they can mate again by the time they reach generation 5 they will all be falling to inbreeding but the damage, irreparable is done as all the men died out except children of the original 10 people. Now all the males have 10 Y chromosomes passing generation after generation and 100 X chromosomes passing on to G2. The issue here is they will all be cousins or distant cousins by the time they are Generation 20.

For your help, my country is a highly inbred society especially some Baloch clans and Zoroastrian in my country. They have yet to develop a Master Race and have low fertility, like less than 2 and their children have more and more diseases.
Accumulation of one dominant racial genes can be catastrophic you know.

Oh and if it needed 500 years then tell me doesn't that make Slavs the Master Race? They clearly beat the fascists out in their own game. The idea of Fascist science being better went to kingdom come. The intelligence and hardwork of a Chinese or a Japanese worker is far ahead in many spheres.

Income and wealth, I got plenty but it doesn't mean I am smarter and more intelligent automatically 🙄. Because they are a by product of generations of hardwork but also a blessing from God. Even children born to same parents have separate destinies.

[AmeerX]

You are welcome to have children with a wealthy man but it's not going to work in terms of intelligence and other things you mention.
You are 20 years old, you won't even know what will happen 10 years from today, 20years from today when you get to 40 and 60 years from today when we will likely be death. Diseases and mutations

[Christian_Cartier]

This is incorrect. Evolution produces a genetic variety in order to hedge against a multitude of potential outcomes. It is just as likely (perhaps more) that the average will outproduce either extreme.

[The_Confusion]

@Kelley1 so females who are stupid or ugly or stupid + ugly should be castrated? All while males, well, even stupid ones can have unprotected sex once she is already impregnated by a superior man.

[PrettyCrumblBb]

@the_confusion according to her own logic she shouldn't be allowed to procreate 😂

[PrettyCrumblBb]

Tbh I think @Kelley1 is a troll.

[OlderAndWiser]

Are you serious? He will be proud of the baby only as long as he is deceived and not told the truth. As soon as he knows you have fucked other guys, he will leave your cheating ass, disavow paternity of the child, and divorce you. Then your child has no father and you have no child support.

You are just looking for an excuse to be a cheater. Or you are just trolling. Which is it?

[Kelley1]

Since they can f**k the best but not marry the best, that is only applicable to average and below-average women. However, since their husbands are superior, there is very little genetic advantage for women in the top 10%. Therefore, the top 10% of women should not cheat because the small genetic advantage is more than offset by the risks and problems that may result from cheating.

[morganherrel]

@Kelley1 You assume the average American woman can fk the best, but why the hell would the best man want to fk the average American woman when she is objectively very unattractive by global standards or otherwise?

[Kelley1]

@morganherrel When It Comes to Casual Sex, Men Aren't So Picky. abcnews.go.com/.../story?id=8312510&page=1

[morganherrel]

Thanks for sharing. It's interesting and I think at least partly explained by the social and intellectual capital gained from the experience for men (and negative capital, i. e., body count, for women). The best men have little to gain in this department and naturally have high standards.

I think the trashiness of men and willingness to give attention to unattractive women is a large contributor to the brokenness of today's dating market for men. Keep in mind that the women rated "slightly unattractive" in America are significantly less attractive than those with the same rating in a country such as, for example, Italy, in the study.

Personally (and I know I may be an exception) I couldn't ever tolerate sex unless it was with an actually attractive person or else someone who shared a deep emotional connection.

[Finchie40]

If any guy is proud of that? He is a complete moron and she is just a cheating whore if she thinks that way as well.

[ReelDaddy]

Yes exactly

[AviatorTom]

No, men want their child to be a joint product of them and their spouse.

[Kelley1]

That is false. Have you never heard of sperm banks? Do you find it impossible to tell the truth?

[RedInnocent69]

Have you ever heard of a husband sending his wife to a sperm bank if he didn’t have to?

[AviatorTom]

@Kelley1 A couple using a sperm bank is a joint decision made by them because of infertility issues. That's completely different from a wife unilaterally deciding to cheat. A husband would like his child to contain his genes, unless there is some medical readon why that is difficult, or impossible.

[Kelley1]

The child contains 99.9% of his genes. No need to be concerned about the other 0.1%.

[AviatorTom]

@Kelley1 How does a child, conceived by impregnating his wife with another man's sperm from the sperm bank contain any of the husband's genes?

[Kelley1]

@AviatorTom Because 99.9% of genes are common in all humans. Therefore, whether donated by the husband or some other man they are identical genes.

[RedInnocent69]

So they’ll be 99.9% human, but still 0% him. So yo wouldn’t mind if he brought you a kid from his girlfriend to raise as your own because it’s 99.9% in common with you?

[Kelley1]

@RedInnocent69 In that case, I would object.

[RedInnocent69]

But would expect him to accept the same. The biological drive is to spread your genes, not humanity’s

[Avicenna]

Is this a serious question?

[Kelley1]

Well, maybe not. However, it is something to consider since it is a means for the average to have prettier, smarter, and more talented children. Is it better to raise a superior child or an average child than you sired?

[Avicenna]

No guy wants to be a cuck (ok, well, virtually no one)- he wants his own kids.

[Christian_Cartier]

An average child would have greater odds of genetic success.

[morganherrel]

I don't know man, "superior children" sounds good to me
passing on my genes is not that exciting

[Avicenna]

@morganherrel: I like passing on mine, and they aren't too shabby. The hell I'd raise someone else's kid (s) either.

[BoopBoopBeep]

I think there's sufficient evidence that prettier does not equal smarter.

[morganherrel]

@BoopBoopBeep she's referring to both traits at once when she says "superior"

[Kelley1]

@BoopBoopBeep Not a 100% guarantee. However, Beautiful People Really Are More Intelligent.
Intelligence is just as strongly correlated with beauty as with education.
Beautiful people have higher intelligence than ugly people, especially if they are men.
www.psychologytoday.com/.../beautiful-people-really-are-more-intelligent

[BoopBoopBeep]

@Kelley1
I'm not sure I'd say that famous Miss Teen SC 2007 is superior to the people at my MENSA get togethers...

[morganherrel]

@Kelley1 I've noticed that correlation in my personal life

[Kelley1]

@BoopBoopBeep If you cherry-pick, you can argue whatever results you wish. However, cherry-picking doesn't change the facts.

[Kelley1]

@morganherrel That is true, but envious people will ignore the facts and claim otherwise.

[morganherrel]

The people I knew in my former professional career who were both mensa and beautiful didn't attend mensa meetings

[BoopBoopBeep]

@Kelley1 @morganherrel Sure, and there are some truly shite people in Hollywood. Many of them are college educated. I work in D. C. Lots of attractive people there. Lot of moral bankruptcy as well. Not that the fuglies living under the bridge are the pinnacle of moral decency, but there's a bit more nuance to a good mate than a resume can display with a headshot.

If a man is 2 inches taller than me and 30 IQ points lower, who is the superior one? How about a man as smart as I am with half my wealth, but can max rep a higher amount of weight? Maybe I'm not the best target audience here since I'm childfree, but seems like you'd just end up with all the women sleeping with Henry Cavil (or whatever) and the men are supposed to be happy about that? Would the same hold true if every man had a mistress that was better in bed than his wife? Should she be happy that he's "only" sleeping with one other woman?

[morganherrel]

@BoopBoopBeep I totally agree with the last sentence of your first paragraph. The answer to the first question is such a hard no it's not even close lol, but I get your point.

The Henry Cavil example is a funny image. I'm pretty sure female social dynamics are already headed that way. All females have an easy chance at being picked for childrearing no matter how fat or unappealing they are as mates, but only a fraction of all men are needed for that collective endeavor. It's even popular for women now to say that they don't need men.

Yes, the asker's vision is dystopian. But honestly I feel for guys who want a mistress who's better in bed, because I'm pretty sure the wife he's able to get in 2025-3030 is probably very unattractive. And I say that as someone who doesn't desire sex at all.

[BoopBoopBeep]

@morganherrel I'm not sure how it will be those years, but I know in 2024 there are a great many attractive women who just want to have casual, NSA, sex. The ability to breed counts for nothing with me, as I want no children, and while a great many women DO, about 20% of them never do. Then of course there's the ones that are like "but it'll change for me"... nope. Then there's all the professional women who "don't have time" for a relationship but just want to bang out some frustration from time to time. I imagine there are a great many guys who would gladly take them as a mistress, and I'm not sure if I see that changing any time soon.

[morganherrel]

@BoopBoopBeep great many attractive women in age 20-30? you must not be excluding fat women or your numbers are way off

barely average female (by global standards) is in the minority

[BoopBoopBeep]

@morganherrel I'm absolutely excluding fat women. That's still only 54% of the population. Everyone in my building with the exception of 4 people are well within proper height/weight standards. I see dozens of attractive people literally all day long.

I'm not sure what you mean by your last sentence.

[morganherrel]

@BoopBoopBeep I would think it's closer to 60-70% of the American population. And the remaining minority "elite" women would only be "average" in certain countries not as corrupted by the American body positivity movement.

But if what you say is true, then you seem very fortunate—all the best to you.

[BoopBoopBeep]

@morganherrel In the grand scheme of things I am. I'm one of only a handful of men in my building and two look like Jabba the Hutt, preemptively I've a leg up.

Which countries did you have in mind? I'm always up for some travel.

[MisterWack]

Bad, cheating is bad. And seeing someone as “superior” is wrong because you might as well leave your husband then since you clearly don’t have respect for him (in this scenario). Oh by the way, if you really thought he would be happy with this you wouldn’t even think or do such a stupid idea.

If a man impregnated another woman then his excuse was “Oh, this is a superior baby from a superior woman than you… I did this to make you proud” that woman would Bitchslap the crap outta him!

[XXTruthfulOgrexx]

No, it's a roll of the genetic dice. I've known very intelligent couples with children that are average to even below average intelligence.

My parents, as an example, where very average even before becoming alcoholics. I tested during high school and college with a higher than normal IQ test score.

To clarify, I highly disagree with those tests and their true diagnostic abilities to judge actual intelligence.

Trying to blow up a relationship just to roll the genetic dice is asinine at best.

[morganherrel]

It's definitely a gamble, but the odds are good. Irrelevant example: a strain of high IQ runs in my family. But my siblings and I all seem to have inherited it.

[bolverk]

No she is Not 'Doing her husband a favour' (this is often an excuse women use when they cheat), Men want to raise their own biological children, that is why more and more Men are requiring a Paternity Test before they will let their name be put on the child's Birth Certificate.

If the husband finds after the fact that he is not the child's biological father, it will in all likelihood break up the family with the husband petitioning the court to have his name removed from the Birth Certificate and he will sue the biological father for child support equal to the amount he invested in the child's up bringing.

And the supposition in the second update will mean nothing to a husband whose wife cheated on him to produce a 'superior baby' because in his eyes he will have no biological attachment to that child no matter the 'data' in that supposition.

[AmeerX]

Umm, isn't that sounding weird and deception 🤔. I mean why cheat and if she does something like this then why not just adopt a child instead of cheating with her husband. And if it's with his consent he is just as at blame.

🙄If someone wants to do something like that why would that guy want to be cheated, he can just go and marry a single mom.

[Kelley1]

@ameerx Everyone seeking to adopt a child would be overjoyed if the child they adopted was the product of a star QB and a cheerleader. However, the average adoptable infant is the product of below-average men and women.

[AmeerX]

I have a genuine question for you. Do you think a cheerleader or a successful dude in college will be successful all his life? I don't think so.
And your focus is too much on the physical and too less on the intellect. Not all intelligent people are physically super

[PrettyCrumblBb]

Most highly intelligent people are ugly. 😂

[Kelley1]

You are envious and possibly resentful because they don't accept you. Of course, they will be successful but there are exceptions. Beautiful People Really Are More Intelligent: www.psychologytoday.com/.../beautiful-people-really-are-more-intelligent

[PrettyCrumblBb]

🙄 oh brother... this girl thinks models are more intelligent than actual scientists.

[PrettyCrumblBb]

That's why you think of cheating on them before they cheat on you. Typical feminist. 😂

[AmeerX]

If not ugly, they are not exactly packing 6 packs, superior intellect, superior character of personality.

A Russian folk understanding is if a girl is beautiful on the face, her body will be less beautiful, and if her body is beautiful her face will not be, and if both a beautiful then there is something wrong with the character of the girl.

And trust me, I am not stating an exception. Very few people are actually bestowed with all these things in one. A greedy person could be spreading his seed but he might not the most desirable person for mating but he might have fooled women around. Maximum a woman could do under such circumstances is withhold having children which is most desirable or go have children from multiple baby daddies because it's a trial and error.

If you are going to say okay Elon Musk is successful let's have a child with him. Do you think he will be faithful to you?
Top richest are almost all divorced people. They couldn't stay together which in itself a desirable trait. Being faithful, then what else is the criteria of a good person for mating?

[AmeerX]

Is she a feminist? Lol, I thought she is traditional minded.

[PrettyCrumblBb]

She's bitter

[PrettyCrumblBb]

Tbh being a good person is better than being highly intelligent or being astonishingly beautiful.

[AmeerX]

Yeah but I think she asked this question out of naivety or innocence. Perhaps her mother got cheated on or was a side chick who got pregnant from a guy and later on told her this story to justify the choice. Or she is being brain washed by an ultra nationalist Nazi.
Who knows?
But she thinks she is beautiful, she is beautiful but at the same time, she is no match if she compares to a Slav girl. Most of Eastern Europe is filled with girls with extreme beauty and intelligence level 🤣. And they are just that way because their parents are traditional.

On the other extreme is countries in West where women are definitely not getting the best quality of men.

Lol, I was quoted a survey by someone that in US an average male fornicates with 8 girls before marriage. Fidelity is important for a stable marriage. It is stupid Kelley excluded nurture to all be based on genes.

[AmeerX]

Using psychology Today. Really Kelley1? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Alright, I have to pop your bubble. In my country, we think of Chinese and Japanese as very highly intelligent but we mostly find Japanese more beautiful. Chinese, just so so or average looking. At the same time, Slavs are considered more intelligent to us.

And just what is the criteria of intelligence they are using?
People can be more intelligent but they could be with zero degree. Define what's intelligent?

[PrettyCrumblBb]

Oh you mean she's beautiful like a 6/10

Ok for a moment I thought u were braindead

I consider Indians highly intelligent but I don't find them attractive. Heck a lot of ugly guys are highly intelligent but I go for the heart. There are only a few handsome guys that are highly intelligent.

[AmeerX]

She is at least 7.5/10 in looks.

Congratulations if you think she is 6 then you are not a lesbian 😁.
We don't find ourselves or our race more attractive usually because we have all those things internally by sharing a common DNA.

Some races have this internalized humbleness more than others.
White supremacists and black supremacists are some example of extreme inferiority that they needed to create an organized effort to prove they are superior to all others

[PrettyCrumblBb]

I think she's a 3

[PrettyCrumblBb]

I find Latino/Hispanic men the most attractive

[AmeerX]

You are straight

[PrettyCrumblBb]

Well duh

I do think Gigi Hadid is pretty. Do you think she's pretty?

[AmeerX]

Get away from me. She is ugly 😐😶

[AmeerX]

Oh, no not her, I thought you were talking about someone else lol 😆

[PrettyCrumblBb]

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[PrettyCrumblBb]

Who did u think I was talking about

[AmeerX]

🙈🙊 can't tell you.

[AmeerX]

I thought you were talking about someone black 😅. I don't know why Hadid is associated with black girls 😔. I know they are pretty but I am not attracted to 98% of them

[PrettyCrumblBb]

Cos u lied

[AmeerX]

Lied about what?

[Kelley1]

Not only Psychology Today but, in addition to numerous other sites Times of India which is from another country and states: An international team has found that beautiful people have higher IQs than others — in fact , it found that handsome men scored 13 . 6 points above the average IQ score of 100 while beautiful women were 11.4 points above the norm.
timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../7309382.cms

Moreover, if true in the USA, it is true in your country and every country.

[PrettyCrumblBb]

We get it @Kelley1 you have the hots for Einstein 😂

[AmeerX]

Lol, honey, that last part is wrong 🤣.

And here is something I will have to add.. with good wealth people start to prefer spending on attraction or lust too. And that dynamic is not explored overtly but covertly.

Like people who are ugly but intelligent get money, they are like ohh let's marry a girl from a beautiful family. In arranged marriages the theme is they look into the mother's beauty as well.

While at the same time, there is another thing wrong with what you just said, you said if it is true in USA, it is true in my country too. Sorry but making USA center of the world is something we don't do here.

You can score a fairly good guy with good financial background in my country Pakistan but you will have to mold to our society quite a bit and that's where you will lose points as your photo is not modest at all. If all girls from US came to marry in Pakistan they would probably have a hard time marrying because we prefer girls that are modest, that pray, that are loyal and faithful, and most importantly that have Virginity or at least not promiscuous and proud of it.
The criteria of intelligence is multifactorial or multifaceted. I hope you know that. Solving a math equation is not it. Neither is money a criteria for intelligence in my society. You can be highly intelligent but no one will give you a job because you are a smarty pants. Has happened to me and it's the norm. If you are more intelligent than the master than you are trouble.

Times of India is not a good site.

[AmeerX]

Give me a reference from more authentic literature and research sites like Elsevier and others. the bogus surveys on news channels don't even pass bias testing. There is research methodology involved.

Confidence interval as well, and most studies are on a small population. Sampling size needs to be larger than 300 for most surveys but still the sampling bias, and bias testing is an important thing devoid in these surveys by companies that do commercial surveys. So I hope you understand that idea too.
And tell me as I am not able to understand this, why do Americans and most of Western Culture use Toilet paper 🧻 instead of the Bidets or Muslim showers. Even Elon Musk and people like Bills gates don't promote Bidets to clean up the bottom with water even though it's considered effective.

[Kelley1]

@ameerx In any event, I am done.

[PrettyCrumblBb]

We use wipes and toilet paper

[PrettyCrumblBb]

Yes Ameer destroyed you 😂

[AmeerX]

Wipes and toilet paper are gross 🤢. When will you people learn that there is a better method.

@Kelley1 yeah too much discussion is giving me weird ideas too. I want to stop. Do try to go out of US for a better perspective of things 👍. And don't even think of cheating on a man. Marry a man who will be loyal to you and you to him.

[PrettyCrumblBb]

You do realize Americans shower everyday. Even twice a day.

[AmeerX]

Pretty CrumblBb she is partly correct. No need to say one destroyed the other now 😅.

I myself had ideation similar to hers when I was her age and even later lol 🤣. But the best way to get best genes was Hybrid Vigor and mutation

[AmeerX]

You do realize I am talking about going to toilet 🚽 and using toilet paper 🧻 isn't clean 😅. So who is more intelligent 🤓.

[PrettyCrumblBb]

Yes that's what the wipes are for.

[AmeerX]

Water 🌊 is best:)

[PrettyCrumblBb]

You literally put soap on your butt and wash it after you go?

[PrettyCrumblBb]

Americans shower in the morning and night. So even if you poop you're gonna get rid of it with wipes, toilet paper and after you shower

[AmeerX]

🙈🙊 just stop. I am not giving a hygiene class here

[PrettyCrumblBb]

Boy if u only use water you gonna smell like watery poop

[9in_Serpent]

I think human genetics should be spread as wide as possible because what is considered superior genetics changes depending on the demands of environment or situation. For example if there was a plague that killed 90% of all people on earth you would consider the surviving 10% to have superior genetics right? It all depends on the situation and genetics

[EmmaMary]

Congratulations on winning a Troll of the day award.

[The_Confusion]

We will accomplish a greater genetic improvement if husbands of unfit women fucked a superior female and her fertilized eggs were inplanted into the unfit woman's belly.

[Kelley1]

@the_confusion Not greater but equal. However, far less practical and very expensive.

[Twalli]

If he wants that, then she can, otherwise it's cheating. That's really what determines cheating 1) Is the other partner aware and 2) Is the other partner okay with it. If either one of those answers is no, it's cheating.

[Friendlybro79]

That baby that would be conceived by another man wouldn't be this woman's husband's child. Regardless of your DNA statistics that very small percentage you're referring to is easily detectable. Good luck to you.

[Kelley1]

I said, average women. Women in the top 10 percent with top 10 percent husbands should not cheat because there is little genetic advantage in a slightly superior man. That small advantage will be more than offset by the risk and problems that might arise from cheating.

[Friendlybro79]

How about not lie about it? Own your beliefs. Also, your whole belief system in this is extremely clinical, not exactly guaranteeing your cheating will yield a superior child, and encouraging lying and cheating which isn't necessary. You should just be honest to people and not marry someone if you think you need to cheat on them to birth a superior child.

[Kelley1]

You should refrain from the impulse to assume that a question is always about what the asker believes or will do.

[Friendlybro79]

Good point. I shouldn't assume. Based on your responses here it seems like you are for this ideology. Am I wrong and my apologies for assuming. Fair question then, do you not agree with the question you are asking yourself or unsure then. I don't like to debate people that won't share their thoughts on the matter they are discussing. So where do you stand on the matter?

[Kelley1]

I believe I will be happy with my husband and would not wish to jeopardize or harm our marriage by cheating. However, at some point in their marriage, a substantial percentage of women cheat. If they are going to cheat, I believe they should choose the best available. Moreover, 8,000 years ago 17 women reproduced for every one man. psmag.com/.../

Since they were the top males, it is likely that improved the gene pool. Therefore, the subject is something to think about.

[Friendlybro79]

Do all women cheat to get impregnated by another superior man or maybe just because they're looking for fun? (Let's leave out what's wrong or right because morals are not universal always)

8000 years ago were the women willingly making these decisions or were the elite few the articles talking about decide to pick women regardless if they consenting?

What if your husband decides you're not genetically superior as you age and decided to sleep with a. You get woman or multiple women so he can pass his genetic superiority more than you can accommodate due to age? Lets say he decided not to tell you and is cheating.

[Friendlybro79]

Sorry for the typo* what if your husband decides you're not genetically superior any longer as you age and wants to further pass on his genetic superiority with younger women because you can't produce anymore? Adding on that he decides not to tell you and is cheating on you.

[Haysj]

No because it’s not his genes or son. Maybe men should mate with more attractive women as 99% look boring to me. Why do we have to settle for this. I myself on dating apps swipe on like a couple in a hundred I do the same in real life. Most women are trash looking with over inflated egos.
Those men smash those girls with protection because they’re shit and average, not worthy of procreating with, I’m the same seen as I’m exceptional.

[morganherrel]

Putting aside the fact that the average woman is fat = ugly yet somehow is greedy enough to cheat with a "superior man" ...

Are you crazy? lol

[The_Confusion]

Right? It's not even as much about genetics as simply being fucking fat, eating fucking junk. And being braindead, which is usually not about genetics.

This question implies that 100% of women are fuckable, and only 10% are smart enough to keep a man around, and only 1-5% of men are worthy of breeding and they all should impregnate 100% of women including the retarded ones which would be 90% of all women.

[morganherrel]

@The_Confusion hahaha
woman are not dumb... but the data shows that most American women in their 20s are fat, which makes them unattractive most of the time

[Kelley1]

@The_Confusion "only 1-5% of men are worthy of breeding and they all should impregnate 100% of women" Yes, that would be wonderful.

[The_Confusion]

@Kelley1 but what about the retarded women? Have you noticed how most women aren't genius inventors?

[Kelley1]

@The_Confusion I'm sure there are a few even if I can't think of any. Regardless, if their fathers are highly intelligent, on average, the children will be smarter than their retarded mothers.

[morganherrel]

@Kelley1 My question is why would a high value man who only values the women for sex want to do it with any of the ~70% of American women in their 20s who are almost undateable for being fat? To meet even the most modest requirement, he would already be restricting his interest to elite women who possess merely the average physique of healthier countries.

[morganherrel]

@The_Confusion In America, ~60-70% of women are immediately "un-fuckable" by virtue of being fat vs. ~20% in many countries not poisoned by Fat Acceptance propaganda.

The 30-40% who remain think they are princesses just for being average in another country, yet only a fraction of those actually meet the personality requirements of quality men.

[RowdyYates]

"Tom, I want to have your baby, not some smoking hot sex surrogate from Hooters!"

[Pete671]

It's a hot idea but then the child will surely have an inferior Dad, this might hold them back in life?

[grega239]

wouldn't a superior man think the same?

Why would he impregnate an average woman if he can just have kids with a better one?

Also you're cracked

[Kelley1]

It's no secret that men are more likely than women to jump into the sack. But a new study adds some twists to the rules of such casual sex.

The research suggests men are far less choosy about the attractiveness of a potential one-night stand. For women to be tempted into considering casual sex, the guy better be a hottie.

These results, based not on real-life encounters but rather on interviews, match with past research showing that men lower their standards when it comes to one-night stands. And it turns out, from the new study, women raise their standards.
www.livescience.com/...en-choosy-night-stands.html

[PetLover24]

@Kelley1 - gods would trolls & sluts kindly be killed.

[elaphe]

What exactly is a "superior" man and a "superior" baby? And how in the world is cheating on your spouse doing him a "favor."

[Dongie]

He's old and gray and discovers he has no grandkids because his all-American son is not his.

[msc545]

Yet another person who apparently believes in eugenics. Familiarize yourself with the history of this particular movement or belief and try very hard to not be too horrified.

[Kelley1]

Regardless of what you believe, that is natural selection and survival of the fittest. During the Stone Age women who cheated with the Alpha male had children with at least a 1% better chance of surviving due to the fact that they would be stronger, smarter, and healthier. In only 1,000 generations that is a 1.01^1000 (21,000) to 1 advantage. Therefore, women who did not cheat with the Alpha male are not our ancestors.

[AmeerX]

Umm, your reasoning is wrong @Kelley1 because these are just speculations and not true.
And here is why? Because God is the one who knows who will survive and who won't.

A child people might abandon due to some reason a reason can grow up to be a beautiful successful person based on hardwork that they do.

If people thought like you then why are all the successful people that live in West are dying their own extinction from fear of poverty and cheating by people such as yourself.

Oh by the way, I don't know how educated you are but understand hybrid vigor. It only occurs in people with most disadvantaged life, physical and sometimes even mental health issues but that their children develop intelligence and physical traits in combination that makes them highly rated in all aspects. But since we live in a world with borders the Hybrid vigor is hard to test on actual people for sufficient data.

Oh by the way, I met more than a few married people with physical disabilities and some accidents that led to those to know that what you said is not a good reasoning. I have seen people without shoulder who work hard honest lives and God bless them with a good son. Women with hearing disability or blindness and they had children who can see and very sharp wits.

You are still not mature enough so I pray 🙏 God guides you out of this twisted reasoning please. It was a basis for fascism in the world that one race or ethnicity is superior to all else. I like White people but there is no way I think anyone would go that far unless they are twisted by the machinations of the devil to think cheating on a husband to get better children will be great. Do you understand why STDs like AIDS happens? It's a direct result of cheating. If someone has fear of God then he would never think like those Fascists who think only they matter and rest deserve the gas chamber

[Kelley1]

@AmeerX You have made some valid points. However, that doesn't change the fact that the probability a child will be superior is considerably higher if one or both parents are also superior.

[AmeerX]

🤔 ummm, how do you describe someone is superior?

Only one Divine Man Jesus Christ is Son of God. There is none who can compare to Son of God born from Mary.

Please I am curious how do you describe as a superior woman and superior man?

From your previous comment I noticed you mentioned 6 packs, 6 figures income, and 6 feet tall. People in Netherlands are tallest but at the same time they have greater occurrence of male pattern baldness.
6 figures income comes from God and hardwork.. one cannot just say a person is perfect because he is wealthy 🤑. He could be crooked too, what about honesty.

Romans I think has a incidence where a King flaunted his wealth and inspired by Jesus himself and when he showed how much wealth he accumulated, and Jesus told him to sell what you have and give it to poor. The parable goes to show that wealth doesn't mean success.
Further it is harder for richer people to enter heaven (not impossible). Physically perfect health. Jesus healed the Lepers and the Blind and raised Lazarus from dead.

I like white people but even I know they cannot survive for long in Equatorial belt because of the lack of melatonin. Similarly people of different color all have their advantages and disadvantages in certain climatic conditions even though if all the people were 1 color a lot of discrimination would still probably exist as we have seen in countries of Europe where Russians, Moldovans and many Slav people are considered inferior sadly.
Read on the concept of Mutation as well my dear. A person who seems weak and inferior have time and again and again defeated people who were much stronger.
1 example of this is David a mere shepherd boy back in the army of King Saul killed Goliath with his Sling rock even though Goliath if he was alive today would be considered the superior Master race lol 😂, probably had 16 packs, 8 or 9 ft tall and muscular and master of his tribe.

[Kelley1]

@AmeerX Superior people have a combination of high (above 130) IQ's, outstanding athletic ability, and have exceptional good looks and good health.

[AmeerX]

🙄 a person who is with all those probably has something else wrong. And if you don't know this but inheritance of acquired characteristics doesn't happen.

If you are dumb or with bad health, it doesn't mean your children will be same.
An athletes children won't always be athletic lol. Nurture vs nature creates quite the question of whether genetics can help create a better breed of people.

You might think good looks are different from what I think, can't just say it is universally beautiful.
A gorgeous person with bad attitude will be just not worth it if they are evil or just greedy and plain racist. Similarly, if I thinking about it IQ is again not a genetic passing because believe me, if it were from my great grandparents to myself, they had lots of children but very followed their great grandparents legacy in the same way.

So, lots of things are at play.

[Kelley1]

@AmeerX, Since all your arguments are based on exceptions, I am certain you buy lottery tickets because you argue against the probabilities and justify purchasing lottery tickets with the claim that someone will win.

[AmeerX]

Not in this case. Because your logic was flawed about one major thing. The Master Race. By eugenics logic, Slavs would have been defeated but they defeated Germany and it's allies. So, they must be master race.

No need to be cheeky with me 🤣. A theory cannot become a law unless it has become proven under all circumstances. Try reading Nicholas Talibs Black Swan and Study Genetics because your answer has not given one reference to a proper scientific literature so far.

Most important of them is Gregor Mendel's laws of Genetics. Have you even drawn a Genes chart to show how much probabilities exist for even good genes to transfer?
Do that first because it's very important to the topic of discussion. You are thinking probabilities don't exist in genes and that clearly shows you have not studied Bio sciences at all.

Also study statistics and economics, because that 6 figure salaries and intelligence means you might have to find a Chinese or Indian as they have accumulated more wealth in US and also UK. So, notion of master race is pretty much disproven.

[msc545]

No, it is not natural selection. Natural selection involves environmentl pressure. You are trying to apply selective pressure and that will not work.

[BCRanger10]

No. Cheating is always wrong, no matter who or why.

[WhitneySnow]

That is so fucked up there aren’t words for it

[Cheerfull009]

If you marry handsome and fit person , the child may not according to his father, there may be like you , then what you will do, can you nature 's will?

[Kelley1]

Paying over $100,000 to breed your mare to a top stud doesn't guarantee a winning thoroughbred but it greatly increases your odds. It is the same thing with people and all species. On average, the best produces the best.

You love your child regardless but you would rather he or she be superior.

[AmeerX]

Hard work brings superiority. You are just going to spoil him. 🙄I can't believe they allowed this question while they remove questions like these usually from men on Gag

[Kelley1]

@AmeerX You have never seen a question like this on GAG.

[AmeerX]

I have actually but they get removed quickly. Gag is really soft on you. But anyway, why do you just focus on man? A man could also be focused on cheating and polygamy to seed lots of women to grow a clan. I don't think we should talk about these Fascist borderline practices though:/.

[Shy_Steve]

That is the poorest excuse for cheating I have ever heard.

[Kelley1]

Oh Really? Tell me one better than the best interest of your baby.

[Shy_Steve]

"I liked him and one thing led to another".

[Kelley1]

Very good.

[noohair]

Sounds like you think like a Nazi. What is superior? Blue eyes? Zig Hail.

[Kelley1]

Olympic athletes with IQs above 125 are superior. Movie stars, governors, and senators are superior.

[Tomisworthless]

sounds like the story of Abraham , dont think the childs lineage is favored

[SeriouslyNotSerious]

What the heck?

[Dongie]

That's disgusting. Don't have kids in fact don't marry the guy if you're so ashamed of his genes.

[Dongie]

Besides, you don't have a clue as to what's back the trail. Could produce a Jim Thorpe.

[Kelley1]

That is the same as telling women not to get married. The standards for almost all women are a six-pack, six feet tall, and a six-figure income. However, there are 25 women for every man who meets those standards. Therefore, women must settle for the men they can marry.

[Dongie]

I thought you were one of the few nice ones. I see why there is a thing called incel.

[Dongie]

Gotta have those muscles. And what do these 25 per have to offer physically?

[Kelley1]

@Dongie Don't make the mistake of judging people by the questions they ask. Instead, answer the question in a manner that you believe is logical and that will convince others that your opinion is the correct opinion.

[Dongie]

I'm not interested in educating anyone. I just hate questions that the sole purpose is to divide. There are plenty of women who hate men and many victims versa. I think it's a shame to fuel this hate.

I've seen too much pain inflicted on one by the other. And to many kids screwed in the middle. I don't particularly see you this way. I don't like the questions at all, tho.

[Dongie]

*Vice

[Kelley1]

@Dongie Is not that also the reason that Democrats hate freedom of speech and the reason that students in liberal colleges shout down speakers who may express views they don't agree with?

[Dongie]

No. It's not the same. The way i grew up if a person wanted to agrivate another they got their ass whipped. Thus, respect was learned. I usually ignore these questions buy it was yours. How would you feel if women's rights were stripped and when you opened your mouth a guy put his fist in it. The laws were put there by men and enforced by men. We are much stronger so why not put an end to women's rights. What can you do to stop it? Nothing. You are protected from bad men by good men. Do you get my meaning?

[AmeerX]

Lol, 25 women for every man? Do you know that controlling desires is a thing. Kelley1 do you think you are a 6 foot blond with blue eyes and blonde hairs with a good faithful life and also God fearing?
No, you are beautiful but not that much. And you should go read the story of Duke who conquered a Town and told the women to leave and carry whatever they value on their shoulders. They took all their husbands and brothers on their shoulders and left.

They didn't care about things or 6 figure income, or 6 ft tall, or six pack. The king could have had all these women and give them to his soldiers and women would have been happy if they thought like you but they value loyalty. And the story is 1000 years old.

Another story is of women in India who all threw themselves off the forts wall to join their husbands in heaven to save themselves from the hands of central Asian invaders who had 6 ft tall and probably 4 packs since they had overpowered the men in that fort and the Rajas army.

If there are 25 women for every man in US why don't they just go marry in countries like China, India, Pakistan where we have more man then women?

[Dongie]

I like Kelly. She's smart and enchanting.

[exitseven]

No, it is ridiculous to think this.

[RingOfFire]

Say WHAT? 😵‍💫

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

What a stupid ass question

[Kelley1]

However, is it not logical?

[bobby_bush_eater]

Sounds like degeneracy.

[Juxtapose]

I don't tolerate cheaters. Hard pass.

[LiamJHayden]

Any excuse to be unfaithful.

[JesseP1nk]

You are so fucking stupid. 🤣🤣🤣

[Gerard567890]

Minimum penis size?

[RedInnocent69]

Um, no, because it’s not their child… 🙄

[CVNT5]

lemme eat you out bby💕🤤💕💦

[MasterKS]

mostly a dark secret only women know it!

[HelpfulWoman]

nah its just trashy

[Shortkay4568]

Damn no