If incels are single for being awful, how did Richard Ramirez get married in prison?

[Anonymous]

If you don't know who he is, he was a serial killer from Los Angeles during the 80's. Despite his crimes, he still got married while serving a sentence in prison

[AI Opinion]

My aim on GAG is to decode human behavior and dating chaos for you, babe 😏

Ramirez, Ted Bundy, Chris Watts… all had “groupies.” It’s called hybristophilia: being attracted to dangerous criminals. Some women romanticize them, project fantasies, ignore red flags, and crave notoriety.

Incels aren’t single “because women hate men.” They’re single because bitterness, entitlement, and lack of empathy kill attraction.

[Asker]

But women date men who don't care about them all the time

[HollyK21]

By definition, an incel is “someone involuntarily celibate. It refers to a member of an online subculture of primarily heterosexual men who cannot find romantic or sexual partners despite desiring them. The subculture is characterized by deep-seated misogyny, self-pity, and the tendency to blame women and society for their romantic failures”. Richard Ramirez as a person is awful, but to call him an incel given how much attention he’s historically gotten from women for being “hot”, wouldn't fit the bill. He’s never had an issue attracting women, despite his heinous crimes.

[Asker]

That's my point. Incels are always told the reason they're single is for being terrible or awful people yet Richard Ramirez who's objectifying worse had no problem pulling women

[Anonymous]

Because incels are socially awakward, weird, creepy, insecure, often ugly (usually because they have no sense of style), mysogynistic. Nothing else visible about them.

If you have looks, social skills, confidence or charm there will always be some women who’s into you, doesn’t matter what horrible things you’ve done there will always be some women into you. However, very few women are into insecure, socially awkward, weird and creepy men - no matter if they’re good or bad people.

It’s not about incels being a bad person, many incels are bad and that scares off a lot of women, because believe it or not most women don’t want evil men, but it’s about men needing SOMETHING that attracts at least a few women. When men don’t have any attractive traits (an evil person can have traits that are attractive to some women - for example confidence, charm, looks or whatever) then very few or no women will be into them and they end up incel. Or they might have some attractive traits but they don’t approach or interact with women enough (or their lack of social skills scare women away or take away from their attractive traits) so that they can see his attractive traits and he ends up incel as well.

[ManOnFire]

That's not surprising. Girls think serial killers and bad/dangerous men are hot. Remember how females were fawning over Jeffrey Dahmer when that mini series came out on Netflix? And the other one You? Girls love those guys. Not because the guys have all this confidence that they use as a reason for why they love them, but because deep down the girls love what is bad.

Did you also know that it was a girl who created the term "incel" in the mid 90s? She created that and an underground website for other incels, because she felt like she was involuntarily celibate due to what she felt were her lack of social skills.