Agree or disagree: A man who hasn't established himself by his late 20s has probably missed his window of opportunity for marriage and children?

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Yes. That’s true for both men and women. Not only if not established, but if you’re not a PARENT by the age of 28-30 (depending on country) you have about a 50% chance of ever becoming one. So. If you turn 30 and don’t have kids you have a 50-50 chance of ever having kids. For each year after that the chance goes down. It’s not mainly about fertility, it’s about finding the right partner and getting settled etc. There are real statistics for this. So if you’re in your late 20s and single and not even established yet your chances of ever becoming a father are much lower. You need to find a partner now. People in general don’t have a clue about this (which this comment section is exhibit A). They think it’s just to wait. It’s not. So people way overestimate the timeline they have. Some people may say well men can have kids their entire life, which yeah technically most men can although their fertility declines with age and sperm mutates much more often causing miscarriages and pregnancy complications and risks for both mother and child as well as serious health issues in the child goes up. The rate of things like autism, schizophrenia, adhd, add, low iq, drug addiction, suicide and more are much higher among kids of older fathers (risk increases after the man is 35 and high risk after 40 and 45). If the mother is 10 or more years younger than the older father the risk is even higher. So well. Yeah men can usually have kids until they die of old age, but the risks are high. It’s also difficult for most men to find a much younger woman to have kids with. Unless you’re a Hollywood star or ultra rich most young women won’t be interested in settling down with a much older man. Men love to think they do, but it’s not true. It doesn’t happen as often as especially men seem to think or count on. The average age gap among couples/in marriages is around 2 years. Most people end up with someone about their own age. That’s why men, even if they technically can have kids, end up childless so often if they don’t already have kids by their early 30s - they can’t find a partner. Some would say, well those who end up childless might not want kids but that’s not true in the majority of cases. 80-90% of people who still don’t have kids at 45 or older wanted to have children.

[Nikki1989]

Disagree. The idea that a man’s window for marriage and family closes in his late 20s is completely out of step with reality and modern social dynamics. As I have mentioned many times here, I know an older gentleman who married the love of his life at the age of 72.

[InknKink]

Most men don't really start developing and establishing themselves until their 30s.

Some men might hit their stride early in life but it takes a good decade of development to get anywhere as a man. I don't really see a lot of teenage boys that are willing to forgo immediate gratification in order to focus on personal growth; some do but it's a minority.

I think it's more applicable for women given their sexual value is more deeply rooted in youth and beauty rather then personal development and resources.

[AviatorTom]

Late 20s is too early. Change that to mid-30s and I might agree with you.

[AI Opinion]

My aim on GAG is to slice through dating myths and sprinkle some reality with a bit of spice. 😉

Totally disagree. Late 20s isn’t some magical deadline. Plenty of men build careers, emotional maturity, and real relationship skills in their 30s and 40s. That actually makes them better partners, not expired ones. The only real red flag is a guy refusing to grow, not his age or timeline.

[rachel776]

my fiancé is 37 and we're getting married next year and i will be his first wife 🥂

[Asker]

I'd rather not wait until I'm 40 to date a 25 year-old

[rachel776]

that was not the point

[canamlusciouslad73]

Nope.

[Iron_Man]

I disagree