What do you think of a person who prefers timid, very submissive girls who doesn't ask many questions, doesn't talk back?
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I used to prefer humble girls and looking back at it, if I had gotten together with one I probably would have at some point started competing with them for being even humbler than they are, because that is what my father did to my mother.
Now I make a connection. You used to talk about soulmate sort of fantasies, which is a specific kind of flavor of trauma going hand in hand with excessive humility. Not even being submissive in the perv definition but conflict avoiding, is what causes people to thump "true love" stuff.
I will never tell you to "learn to set boundaries and grow a spine". I am instead telling you to get pissed at whoever taught you that you must be submissive.
Being submissive is never a true love. It is always a mask to suppress your real raw expression because you were taught that you are only lovable when you submit. Which is an immoral thing to teach a child. Your parents were immoral.
Have a nice raging grief and heartbreaking awakening of your true self.
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You're wrong.
Submissive women are so feminine.
They attract alpha - 16 h
You don't like the soft feminine voice and behaviour of a woman?
You'd rather be with a hardcore and dominant woman? - 16 h
The sadomasochism altogether is a byproduct of global artificially inflicted suffering.
Yes, really. Both doms and subs, whether in the bed, in the finances, in the garden, anywhere on earth, the dynamic of sub and dom are a byproduct of psychological torture.
We're you spanked growing up? Were you yelled at? Were you told to suck it up? Were you told that it's not worth feeling the sense of disgust when you see something unhygienic?
All of them traumatized you. Merely learning the existence of "submissives" and "alphas" is traumatizing.
This is exactly what I meant with the sadomasochism, if @kvass ever thought i am a dirty mind (and insinuated I should fall off a cliff) I call the "alpha" paradigm a sadomasochism. Has nothing to do with the bedroom even though people who are ok with tyranny are bound to be tormented by intrusive thoughts about kinks and start enjoying them.
People who vote for any politicians are sadomasichists. it is a mental illness.
It is by definition the absence of free will and self ownership. - 16 h
Using big words doesn't validate your opinion.. uh I mean your confusion
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This is not some sort of wrestle or competition. No need for that.
You own your body. And your mind. If there is any reluctance to that then you are traumatized. Everyone is. Hey, I read that in India corporal punishment happens to 90-100% of all children. You need to be told that it was wrong, whoever convinced you that one person can dominate or coerce another is immoral. - 16 h
You can't traumatize that which is the only truth that/there is.
There's no sadomachisim in wanting a beautiful, submissive woman as a life partner.
Submissive doesn't mean sex.
I'm talking about the other aspects of a relationship. - 15 h
Exactly, the other aspects being submissive is the issue. Sexual deviants are just a byproduct of it happening in other areas.
Submissiveness is by definition a result of trauma.
It is not submissive to be beautiful. It is masochistic to do what others tell you no matter how you feel about it.
And all this talk is pointless as long as it stays an abstract idea. You need to use your heart, not use relationships to compensate for a numb traumatized heart.
There is no such thing as "care" as long as you are submissive. You just don't have a voice.
Again, it is all about your childhood, it is an unquestionably fact that at some point as a child your will was whacked out of you. You were told to be more submissive than you wanted to be. Or at the very least you witnessed you mom being more submissive than you wanted her to be and she persuaded you that that is the way to go. 100% guaranteed.
It is not anyone's true nature to "not talk back". It is always a traumatic tragedy. You were trained like a puppy. - 15 h
Gtfo.
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That is trauma speaking and I am not just saying that to sound smart.
Everyone who has gone to public government run schools is trained like a puppy, including myself. And you must blame your parents in order to break the illusions you have, such as how minutes ago you stated that all men hate women. That is only true for traumatized men and the fact is 99% are traumatized. - 15 h
Do you know I'm a werewolf? Do you want to get hurt?
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*you're now lying dead in a pool of your blood*
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Get good kid
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Tell me something funny and let's test that
- 13 h
Are u a hot guy?
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Are u a stupid bot? Why do you keep mentioning that? Who tf is traumatized? DEF. NOT ME!!
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Yes yes, you are traumatized. You told me to GTFO when pointed out an uncomfortable truth. That's the definition of trauma.
Trauma doesn't mean you were cut into pieces by some maniac. It means that your natural god-given emotions were deemed improper at any point and you believed it. - 12 h
Get proper education, take your vitamins and read your bible. Instead of trying to pseudo analyze strangers on the net. Bye
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I'm not Christian. In fact never in my life have I proclaimed to be one, I just stopped praying when I was 5 and at that point I did not know what the word "christian" even means.
God is whatever you think perfection is. You rever gaia then so be it. Nature gave us the whole spectrum of instincts and emotions for a reason. It is unfathomable idiotic to deem any of them wrong.
But that also implies that the trauma-purge mechanism is also built into every organism. Just start using the emotions that are packaged into every child by nature.
Being submissive is not okay. Being aggressive is not okay. Both are a mental illness and both are what dictators deliberately instill into the masses to make their reign possible. There would be no order followers if there was no mental illness. - 11 h
Seeing how you are sharing about your childhood on about 2 posts now, I'd say your the one who's traumatized
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I already told you that everyone is traumatized, multiple times, i defined trauma as having suppressed an emotion at any point.
Trauma is so common that the vast majority of people say "life sucks, life is a bitch, just accept it with its flaws". They only say it because ungrieved past violations are weighing them down.
Men talk about "female nature" and women talk about "male mature". When the only problem is egoism.
And? The mainstream thinks that egoism is a given, a natural state.
Egoism means being traumatized and believing in lies.
Yes, the whole world is mentally ill, except for the insignificant few tribal communities like the yekuana people. - 11 h
What do mentally healthy people according to your description do all day? What do their lives consist of?
Please do explain - 11 h
Being in touch with their heart. No torment, no intrusive thoughts, no shame, no indulgence, strong connection to other living beings, objectively moral and non aggressive but defensive when needed, yet empathetic not to cause excessive harm.
Other than that mostly what the average good meaning person does. - 11 h
A vegetative life, you mean...
Humans aren't built like that!
Anthro-socially we must both compete and give in to have a balanced life - 11 h
That's just slave-master propaganda that most philosophers and psychologists are suffocating in while unaware.
There will never be peace until everyone owns themselves and nobody else. As I mentioned, communities like yekuana people treat children as autonomous individuals since day 1 and there is zero crime among them, not even arguing, while something like 96% of civilized couples argue and of the other 3.9% most probably are just sedated into silence.
I already pointed out a few hours ago: no amount of philosophically perfect persuasion will bring the peace. It only risks excessive mapping without feeling what I think should be called "voluntary shameless heartache". The one we are born with and gets beaten out of us as we grow up.
We are all conditioned that heartache is bad. That really is the root of all suffering. And perversions. You can study extreme examples if you need reassurance that heartache is necessary: hitler and Stalin were brutally beaten up growing up. They were taught not to be heartbroken about it. So their subconscious minds accepted that brutality is normal.
The philosophical debates are secondary. They are useless until we step into voluntary shameless heartache. Shameless because shame disables heart ache.
See, I was bullied by a brother I'm a specific way, then I did the same thing to a classmate. If I place these two memories side by side and feel "ashamed" like society teaches, i feel tormented and a mini OCD-like thinking pattern persists. Most people just call it "having an ego" but that's not so. If i feel "heartbroken" about it, it feels very refreshing and I actually stop doing it without trying.
2K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Maybe it's because those kinds of girls seem more feminine.
Maybe because they don't want a girl who thinks she is a bad ass and can stand toe to. toe and argue. A lot of guys don't even want to be around guys who act like that.
A woman can have a mind of her own and express thoughts, opinions, goals, preferences and desires without being a domineering, confrontational shrew.
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16 hDepends on the person.
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17 hPR*CKS !!!
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Why do you say that?
- 13 h
Because they want a serf, not a partner.
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Someone who *specifically* prefers timid, very submissive girls who won’t question or challenge them is usually chasing control, not love. That’s a power imbalance, not romance.
Healthy attraction likes kindness, softness, even shyness, but also respects boundaries, opinions, and “talking back.” If someone wants a partner who stays quiet so they can avoid accountability, that’s a walking red flag parade.