Why as a member of the LGBTQ+ community, we should have equal rights.

[YaBoiJacob]

As a member of the LGBTQ+ community, I personally don't experience much hate, but that is mainly because I have kept quiet about my being Bi. Living in an ultra conservative area, I see a lot of arguments from their side. (which sadly consist of a lot of biblical text) I'm not against Christianity by any means, and I would consider myself a Christian, (but in America anyways) it just seems like we can't get past the separation of church and state. The rainbow flag is considered by many a symbol of LGBTQ+ pride, while certain christians claim that it was stolen and should be given back.

LGBTQ+ members holding a large flag during a march

I think it is not much to ask for, equal rights wise, to be able to purchase a house when I grow older without the worry of my gender preference being a factor. And as for the "the Bible condemns same-sex relations", I have read the Bible, I respect your point of view, but I also think that there is some flaw in the interpretation of the verses you are using.

But, as always, in certain situations you can only wish that things were different.

[icequeen03]

I agree. A disagreement over how someone is should be no reason for them not to be equal when they're hurting no one being themselves

[msc545]

I agree completely with you, but remember, things are at least sort of changing in the right direction, albeit slowly.

[YaBoiJacob]

Thanks

[Sweetener_]

You're deceiving yourself brother. You can't be a homosexual and a Christian at the same time because there are two different spirits.
No matter our proclivities or attractions, we cannot continue to define ourselves by the very sins that crucified Jesus and at the same time assume we are right with God. Paul lists many of the sins that the Corinthians once practiced (homosexuality is on the list). But in 1 Corinthians 6:11, he reminds them, “That is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God” In other words, some of the Corinthians, before they were saved, lived homosexual lifestyles; but no sin is too great for the cleansing power of Jesus. Once cleansed, we are no longer defined by sin. And there's no "flaw" or need for an interpretation, the Bible is clear on homosexuality. Leviticus 18:22 (KJV) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.


1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (KJV) Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


And not only did the LGBTQ corrupt the rainbow but they also named it PRIDE. Willingly boasting in their sin.



Proverbs 16:18-19 (KJV) Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud.



1 Peter 5:6-7 (KJV) Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:
Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.




God loves you, and God’s forgiveness is available to the homosexual just as it is to the adulterer, idol worshiper, murderer, and thief. God promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Philippians 4:13).

[msc545]

Ignore this woman. There is always one in every bunch.

[Sweetener_]

And there's always one in every bunch that chooses to turn a blind eye to what the Word of God says because it doesn't please their flesh. I'm so sorry for you because you're lost. I'll pray for you ❤

[msc545]

Do you have any idea how disgustingly offensive your post is? People that are gay are not gay by choice, and being gay is not a sin. What is sinful is trying to shame someone for it as you are doing.

[Sweetener_]

Of course it's going to be offensive to you, because it's not what your itching ears want to hear. Being gay is a choice, sometimes it might be something you can't control due to your circumstances in life and that's exactly why Jesus says we should be born again spiritually.

Sin is anything that goes against God and his laws.
Homosexuality not only goes against nature but it goes against God.
Me telling you the truth is not me "sinning" because I must preach the gospel, it is my job to win souls for Christ and do the will of my father. So you that is not in Christ cannot tell me what's a sin or not lol

Matthew 28:19-20 (KJV) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

[msc545]

16 years old, and you rally think you know anything at all? Pathetic. Go away.

[Sweetener_]

Knowledge is not all about age , a small can know than old man. -matome khothatso

[Wewladdy]

Beautiful post. Keep coming back to re read it. It's rare for a Christian to actually you know, be Christian and at least try to follow the Bible to the best of their abilities.

[Juxtapose]

Being gay is not a fucking choice anymore than being straight is.

If you think it is a choice, you are bisexual.

[Juxtapose]

Fuck your garbage religion!

[Sweetener_]

@Wewladdy Thank you ❤

[Sweetener_]

@Juxtapose God loves you ❤

[Juxtapose]

Love is action, not empty words.

If I was all-powerful and loved somebody, I would lift them into in eternal paradise

[Juxtapose]

*into an

[Sweetener_]

@Juxtapose
Corinthians 13:4-8
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails ❤

[Juxtapose]

Love is action and I have seen none from this supposed omnipotent being.

[Juxtapose]

If I was omnipotent I would IMMEDIATELY put you all in a paradise.

I'd be a kinder, more loving god vs Yahweh.

[Sweetener_]

Psalm 145:8
The LORD is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy.

God is love.

Love (God) does not force Himself on anyone. Those who come to Him do so in response to His love. Love (God) shows kindness to all. Love (Jesus) went about doing good to everyone without partiality. Love (Jesus) did not covet what others had, living a humble life without complaining. Love (Jesus) did not brag about who He was in the flesh, although He could have overpowered anyone He ever came in contact with. Love (God) does not demand obedience. God did not demand obedience from His Son, but rather, Jesus willingly obeyed His Father in heaven. “The world must learn that I love the Father and that I do exactly what my Father has commanded me” (John 14:31). Love (Jesus) was/is always looking out for the interests of others

The greatest expression of God’s love is communicated to us in John 3:16: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Romans 5:8 proclaims the same message: “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” We can see from these verses that it is God’s greatest desire that we join Him in His eternal home, heaven. He has made the way possible by paying the price for our sins. He loves us because He chose to as an act of His will. Love forgives. “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9).

Luke 12:32 (KJV) Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom 🌸

[Juxtapose]

Can you give me a real answer instead of quoting Bible verses that mean nothing to me?

[Sweetener_]

I gave you real answers + bible scriptures, maybe if you took the time to read it you would know.

[Juxtapose]

I want you to tell me what you would do if you had omnipotence.

[Sweetener_]

Sorry but I rather think about pleasing my father than to think about how I could dominate the world by being in His place. That pridefulness got satan kicked out of heaven, now he's roaming the earth deceiving the masses and teaching them rebellion.

[Juxtapose]

So you just unquestioningly follow a being you can't even be sure exists just because it was written in a book?

[Sweetener_]

Thank you but I can speak for my self.

I am sure the Omnipotent Being I follow exists, because of the way He changed my life for the better, because of the miracles He has done in my life.
I go through trials daily & I put my trust in Him and he never failed me.

I was never one to fully believed in God, neither did I care for him until two years ago when I surrended my life to Him.

And that "Book" changed billions of lives for the better, they burned it and tried to destroy it but they failed.

The Bible is changing lives, turning the children of death into the children of life.

I struggled with depression and high functioning anxiety and I still do, that "Book" calmed me down, motivated, encouraged me and turned me into the strong girl I am today. That "Book" made me realize my value & my worth, my strengths and my weaknesses, anytime I fell down that book made me rise us and come back stronger.

The bible says blessed are those who do not see yet believe.
You can't understand the things of the spirit because you're not in the spirit.

[JuliaStyles]

@Sweetener_ Well said but it is also said "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces." You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make them drink, or make a purse out of a sow's ear.

[Sweetener_]

@JuliaStyles Of course ✨

[Juxtapose]

"You can't understand the things of the spirit because you're not in the spirit."

What makes you so sure you are the one that's right and not Muslims or some other religion, if any at all? How can you be sure?

I like to base my beliefs off of evidence, otherwise I am just begging to be conned.

[YaBoiJacob]

@Juxtapose SPEECH also, @Sweetener_, if God is all knowing and all mighty, why didn't he just make so there was no sin?

[Sweetener_]

Because I studied it, so I'm educated when it comes to religion especially Christianity. And I can confidently tell you that any religion outside of christianity is pagan and centered around satan.

Satan has created many gods and beliefs centered around him that people all around the world accepted to worship.

People had to go to the ancient days and refer to spirituality but what they don't recognize is that these beliefs are centered around satan.

It doesn't matter which god they choose to belief, because if it's not Jesus Christ it will lead every one to satan. This is the part of the great deception.

The history runs deep and I wouldn't mind talking about it, but I need to know if you genuinely want to know the truth, because I'm not interested in wasting my time and getting a disrespectful reply in return.

[Sweetener_]

@Juxtapose^

[Sweetener_]

@YaBoiJacob.
God could change everyone’s personality so that they cannot sin. This would also mean that we would not have a free will. We would not be able to choose right or wrong because we would be “programmed” to only do right. Had God chosen to do this, there would be no meaningful relationships between Him and His creation.

Instead, God made Adam and Eve innocent but with the ability to choose good or evil. Because of this, they could respond to His love and trust Him or choose to disobey. They chose to disobey. Because we live in a real world where we can choose our actions but not their consequences, their sin affected those who came after them (us). Similarly, our decisions to sin have an impact on us and those around us and those who will come after us.

God’s desire is that for all of our sakes we would obey Him that it might be well with us (Deuteronomy 5:29). Instead, what happens is that we choose our own way, and then we blame God for not doing anything about it. Such is the heart of sinful man. But Jesus came to change men’s hearts through the power of the Holy Spirit, and He does this for those who will turn from evil and call on Him to save them from their sin and its consequences (2 Corinthians 5:17). God does prevent and restrain some acts of evil. This world would be MUCH WORSE were God not restraining evil. At the same time, God has given us the ability to choose good and evil, and when we choose evil, He allows us, and those around us, to suffer the consequences of evil. Rather than blaming God and questioning God on why He does not prevent all evil, we should be about the business of proclaiming the cure for evil and its consequences—Jesus Christ!

[Juxtapose]

"Because I studied it, so I'm educated when it comes to religion especially Christianity. And I can confidently tell you that any religion outside of christianity is pagan and centered around satan."

I hear the Muslims say the same thing just as confidently as you do, but none of what you say can be verified in a scientific, peer-reviewed article.

Science is the best way to understand reality.. well, if you want results.

I'm not trying to be condescending, but shit in one hand and wish in the other and see which fills first.

[Sweetener_]

@Juxtapose.
"But none of what you say can be verified in a scientific, peer-reviewed article"

"So you just unquestionably follow a being you can't even be sure exists just because it was written in a book"

Sweetheart, you're full of assumptions about my knowledge, you're not willing to know the truth or to gain more knowledge, you just want to stay in your own little bubble with your own beliefs.
I've talked to lots of atheist, most of them where rude like you, while others shared their knowledge with me while I shared mine with them respectfully.
I tried having a respectful conversation with you but I can't talk to people who are arrogant and aren't mentally stimulating. Thank you and have a nice day.

[JuliaStyles]

@Juxtapose If you were omnipotent and contained all knowledge you probably would not give a damn about some puny little humans because they would mean nothing to you. In fact you would probably be so annoyed with the human existence you would probably erase us with a simple nod. But that would be you thinking with an imperfect human mind and humans have the tendency to be evil as history has shown. We kill each other with abandon - rape, steal, cheat, lie, and every other trait man has shown. Not one of us is perfect and not any of us could get to heaven on our good deeds - if we even have any. To go to heaven you would have to be perfect because God is perfect and wants no shit -which we all are compared to Him- in Heaven. The result of our sin is spiritual death and not being allowed into Heaven. That is why He sent Jesus to Earth to take the penalty for sin for us. This is all taken by faith as you can neither prove there is or isn't a God. Some people say religion is a crutch. Well good, because I need one in this vile world we live in. None of us real Christians want to be here except to take as many people to Heaven as we can while the devil is trying to make sure we don't. But we are not afraid of dying either as it is written "To, live is Christ and to die is gain." because the moment we die we will be in Heaven. People can do, say, and believe in anything they want and Christians just believe something the world has no want for even though 80% of the world believes in some kind of Supreme Being.

[mrkdvsn]

@sweetener... You really sound like a true Christian. May God richly bless you :)

[Sweetener_]

Amen ✨

[razelove]

You have every single right that a straight person does, what you might not have is an availability of partners because they're on the DL because of your age. One of my family members living out in Mississippi had that issue, and it made him fairly depressed and moody, you know, not getting laid or having a boyfriend for stretches of years at a time, then having to settle hard.

It's really cities vs. more rural. Being gay isn't a majority thing, it's a small percentage, so if you live in a small area, there will be few people in your dating pool, friends, as you referred to churches. Moving to an area with a higher population density, be it in Texas, Pennsylvania, what have you there will be more people who are outliers, enough so to make their own places to feel comfortable, that you could feel comfortable in too.

Bide your time, you have 3 years until you turn 18, pick a college elsewhere, learn ways other people live in other places, look back on your folks and your home town fondly when, you know, you're not living there anymore.

Don't expect other people to change for you, change your situation for the better, you know, when you can. Teenage years suck for everyone, not just because you're gay. I'm pretty sure mine were awkward and tense with not being able to fit in anywhere too, but for the life of me I can't remember them.

[lightbulb27]

all people should have equal rights to live live to the fullest. If they are adults, they can make the decisions for their lives... as long as they are not imposing their will upon another.

You have rights and you have responsibilities as an adult. People forget about that.

What you don't have the right to do is project your beliefs onto someone else or physically impose upon another. That is where things get messed up. These either are or can be mental/emotional issues and people are emotional beings and can be impacted negatively. Too many children are walking around with the question "am I bi", "what sex am I"? That did not exist when I was younger. That is totally F'd up because of a few people who are Fd up. It's sick, and it's wrong.

That's not your fault, just saying...
We have hormone issues in this country and maybe the world. That should be obvious. Our society has "normalized" abnormal and made "normal" to be bad. It's human nature to do this, but it's messed up.

To me it is simply a convenient form of population control by way of some unforseen hands or mistakes in environmental policy.

[JuliaStyles]

Equal rights are one thing but when they feel entitled and have to play the gender card when straight people can't is another. In my state a bakery didn't want to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding. A straight person, if someone didn't want to make him a cake they would just go to another bakery. But gay people had to make a big stink about it and put the bakery out of business. Now what if those bakery owners didn't want to make a cake for a straight person because it violated they religious convictions because the person wanted a dick and pussy on it? Could they sue for that? I'm sure only a gay person would make an issue of something because they think their rights are more important than someone else's rights, which doesn't make them equal.

Only gay rights matter, not someone's religious rights unless it is for wearing a burka- it's like Reverse Discrimination.

[Pulseofsulfur]

People have no respect for each other anymore smh

[smølf]

It all depends on the reasons why. If they didn't have gay cakes and do not make custom cakes then it was fine. If they do make customer-made cakes and just wanted to enforce their morals on customers then it's really all right.

You can't say whites only in this shop, because I believe in racism.

Just because you own a shop doesn't mean you are free to not be in compliance with the law of the land, and this does include non-discriminatory behavior.

It's not about gay rights, it's about human rights, we should all have the same right and enjoy the same personal freedom.

[SomeGuyCalledTom]

There's a difference between "not having equal rights" and "having to deal with people who don't recognise the equal rights you in fact already have." Bible-thumping homophobes won't go away anytime soon, any more than racist scum would stop harassing ethnic minorities. Haters gon' hate, as they say. But their behavior doesn't mean you don't have equal rights. You HAVE equal rights, in the eyes of the law, as a free-willed lawful citizen. But that doesn't preclude the possibility of having to deal with assholes. If you were straight then you'd still have assholes to deal with, it would just be a different subset of assholes with their own bone to pick, and a hill they've chosen to die on. The operative question here is "how to deal with assholes?", really. And that's a universal question we all deal with differently, because the assholes you encounter probably require different strategies than the assholes i encounter

[Toast792]

I think people need to grow up. this is part of the reason I left that religion in the first place. Let people do what they want. It doesn't really affect you anyway. Wouldn't you rather see people happy then hear they committed suicide bc they were told there 'was something wrong with them' and they 'should go die?' And Christians are supposed to be the (self proclaimed) 'Peaceful and accepting community that just wants to help people live their best lives' yadda yadda. whatever.

[007kingifrit]

what if i told you it did hurt people?

democracy depends on compromise to work, the more types of people there are the harder it is to find common ground and thus compromise. eventually gridlock sets in, people are too different to get along and we inevitably destroy eachother

democracy cannot exist with diversity; not for long

[Toast792]

@007kingifrit This kind of thing really isn't that important though, what you say would make sense if people were arguing over something 'life or death' but something this simple should at least be able to be overlooked. People should shift their concerns over to something that greatly affects the nation rather then 'yOu lIkE sOmEoNe I dOn'T wAnT yOu tO lIkE? hOw dArE yOu!' if it bothers you that much then just ignore it.

[JuliaStyles]

@Toast792 Real Christians don't tell people to die or commit suicide. Accepting is what the world wants everyone to be. So we should be accepting of rape and pedophiles? Those things are unacceptable to most of society. So was being gay up until recent times. More vets commit suicide in a day than any gays, but does anyone give a shit about them? Gays act too entitled when they are no better than straights. And that is what people have an issue with. And it does affect us when they try and push their life style on us, the same way you rail against Christians for doing the same. Kind of hypocritical don't you think? I don't know what religion you were part of but men today want to be tickled by what they want and accept everything that most people find abhorrent and not what God says. Who will be your final judge? God or men?

[Toast792]

@JuliaStyles I'm not even going to try arguing with you. I don't care about what 'God says' anymore. again, if it bothers you that much, just ignore it. also it's not the same as 'rape and pedophiles' because it is, Adults. Who agreed to the relationship and all that came with it. Do you have any legitimate reason to not like them other then "some guy about two thousand years ago said this was wrong in this book that's been written then rewritten, then translated though all these different languages, and has been proven to be mistranslated/untranslatable though some parts." ?

[YaBoiJacob]

@007kingifrit what sort of argument is that, don't be different, it's bad for you?

[007kingifrit]

@Toast792 let me tell you a story about a man named aryanastus

aryanastus existed in the first few years of christianity and he argued that the jesus's body itself wasn't the son of god just the spirit it inhabited. this is why the bible says "in the flesh" constantly to refute this guy. eventually he got so angry that rome didn't listen to him he marched north in exile, built a different society on this one small difference and 400 years later marched back to rome aaaaand his descendants of his ideology destroyed rome in 457 AD

small differences snowball, they build up. they DO matter. don't be idealistic and appeal to tolerance. tolerance always fails in the end

[Toast792]

@007kingifrit Ok? does that mean we should stop trying to solve all our problems in society, simply because it could cause conflict? Should we continue to be raked though the mud because some people can't compromise? You are thinking a very one-sided perspective here. If you truly believe this, does that mean you think people should also give up on the BLM movement, simply because it causes fighting? There is no change without a bit of pain, the very existence of our nation is proof of that. And you're missing the entire initial point of what I originally said, that people need to grow up and deal with it. This is a part of society now, so they best accept it.

[007kingifrit]

you should stop trying to FEEL good, and start trying to DO good. doing good hurts people, innocent people. it makes you feel dead inside. but it promotes the longterm stability of nations and peoples

the age of peace is over. violence and intolerance are the gateways to prosperity now

[JuliaStyles]

If had read my reply I answered that. I didn't say they should not have equal rights but that they don't deserve rights straights don't get by playing the gay card. That is like reverse discrimination

[Raveagit]

What a whole lot of nothing.
You can see their argument but it's just bible verses that they get wrong, you want more "rights" but can't make a case for it.
Such meaningless tissue paper "arguments" are why no on one like my self, capable of a real debate, with knowledge on the subject even bothers.
One soft ball for the road. Aids remains the disease of homosexuals. A literal plague upon one for their actions would seem to make the Christians case pretty cut and dry for them.

[Jamie05rhs]

That was a very respectful and well thought-out post. I first want to start out by saying that I respect you, and I value your contributions to your community and our country.
I personally am one of those Christians who believes that the homosexual lifestyle is not a correct way to live.
I do, however, think you should have equal rights. With the only exception being the adoption of children.

[YaBoiJacob]

Thanks, that means a lot. This is why I stay, people who will respect others opinions even if their not their own.

[Jamie05rhs]

No problem, brother. :)

[hellionthesagereborn]

You do have equal rights, their are literally no rights that are barred from you. Also no one cares, no seriously no one cares. The first gay pride parade was in 1970. Thats over fifty years ago. You might have an argument fifty or sixty years ago but currently LGBT people are over represented in media, Trumps administration had five different cabinet level positions filled with openly gay people, etc. etc. Your not a victim, you have never been a victim, stop it. Their are real people with real issues and your trying to hog the limelight so that you can get all the sympathy for yourself in some kind of social Munchausen's syndrome in order to be important. Instead of doing that, do something of value instead. Your not a victim, you never have been and likely never will be.

[strawberrylipstick]

going by their logic:

if we really "stole the flag" from christians and everyone else (literally including god himself) then we are more powerful than god and therefore we should rule the world

[strawberrylipstick]

why did they change the "c" in "logic" to a smile... wtf

[YaBoiJacob]

LOL, I appreciate this point of view

[strawberrylipstick]

its only true XD✌🖤

[Toast792]

LBGTQ+ community just takes over the world and achieves world peace >:D

[Ilittles]

You have the same rights as anyone else. The problem with this isn't with thr "system" it is with groups of people.
Under the law there is equality, however the actors enforcing law is where things get messed up.

Infact , we hVe more benefocial "inequality" to make up for preceieved " inequality" . No one wants to talk about it because it is touchy... but it is truth. If my sister and I are both equal in merit but she is josen because she is female , because that's "progressive" there are many examples, not just based on biological sex, race, religion or social status. Your issue is trying weed out the individuals whose conduct is unfair not the system of rights for humans , as that is fundamental in kost of the westernized developed world. I also think there should be people in the lgbt community thst need to be weeded out too as they can be radical and irrational.

[Wewladdy]

The Bible states that even just cross dressing is a literal abomination. You think you can ignore all the blatant objective statements and continue to live in sin because it's convenient to you? Not repentant of it at all, even deeming it part of who you are in Christ?
Shameful. Shameful and disappointing that one can take on a title they clearly do not want. A title such as Christian comes with obligations, and that is to follow God's law, which you clearly do not wish to do.
I used to think I was a queerdosexual sodomite as well and that it was okay, but the bottom line is it's plain perversion. The Bible is VERY clear that man is made for woman and woman for man, and that marriage (the only case in which sexual acts are permitted,) is strictly between man and woman.

[doopayo]

That’s not what the actual bible says, what you’re referring to is a mix of pagen & the Catholic Churches corruption of the original word of god. I won’t go into much details but I do have sites and links that explain it better if you want to do your own research on where that actually originates from

[Wewladdy]

I read the Bible. I've read different versions of the Bible. I've also done my own research outside of the Bible itself. Sodomy and homosexual "marriage" are both monstrosities.

[Anonymous]

you're 15 so you might not know this. Your gender nor your sexual orientation is not a factor in deciding weather or not you can own a home. Its your credit score and job history. As far as equal rights, You do have them. And no one is taking them away.

[YaBoiJacob]

I know, but landlord wise, a land lord can kick out a person because of their sexual orientation.

[Opinion Owner]

Actually they cannot. Not legally. Not in the US anyway.

[007kingifrit]

if your landlord even knows your sexual orientation... you have done something wrong

[Opinion Owner]

@007kingifrit exactly

[Bat-Perv]

You have equal rights but don't expect special treatment

[ItsTheNephilim]

I don't see a reason why there be so much pride rallies and all. Equal rights, fuck yeah. Pride? Uhh... pointless in my opinion.

For the religious people who are too bothered about other people's lives, your God created you, your God created a person belonging to the LGBTQ community. Your God can handle him/her, it's under his will that the said person is the way he/she is. No need for you to interfere unless they are committing some kind of crime or forcing anything on you.

[TOTEMPLASTER]

If you are an American citizen, you already have 'equal rights'.
Asking for more means you want special rights and for that wish you can go f*ck yourself, narcissist whiner.

[RingOfFire]

You do have equal rights. What equal right do you think you don't you have?

Maybe you are confused. You do NOT have a right to have everyone else approve of your lifestyle. No one has that right. Its up to you to understand that you don't have a right to that and some people will disapprove of it. They have as much right to disapprove of your lifestyle as you have to live it. Disapproval of your lifestyle is NOT a violation of your rights because you don't have a right to approval.

[RolandCuthbert]

Haha!!!

Good luck with this thread. I think you are probably the only gay guy here who may not be a trump supporter.

[Anonymous]

Yeah I totally agree. I work in healthcare and I’ve witnessed a lot of systemic inequalities that lgbtq+ people face, especially trans individuals. It’s truly saddening.

[bamesjond0069]

"... but I also think that there is some flaw in the interpretation of the verses you are using."

Nope its plain as day and written multiple times that its bad. You are under the influence of a demon if you think the words don't mean what they say. I see this all the time, Bible says specifically one thing and people say it means the opposite. Smh. How intellectually lazy to just lie. Which is another sin by the way.

[babygirl1212]

As a Hebrew speaker. almost all of those verses were referring to pedophilia not homosexuality

[bamesjond0069]

So all the other thousands of hebrew scholars over thousands of years from different countries and backgrounds are wrong. And some pink on gag has proved them all wrong. Sorry if i doubt you.