I don't believe a lot of things in the Bible, but there are good and true moral principles in the Bible.
I don't for one moment believe The True Creator would command Abraham to sacrifice his own son, for example.
Loving your neighbor as yourself is a good moral principle, and the Golden Rule is the correlated to the Silver Rule. Problem is Jesus stole that from Confuscious and didn't cite his references; a fact they don't tell you in Sunday school, but I learned about 15 years ago on another debate forum.
. Most of the Ten Commandments are derivable through Objective Reason without citing a Bible.
The First and Second commandment are derivable through the Cosmological Argument.
Not murdering, raping, stealing, adulterating, lusting for someone else's wife/husband, etc, is a good idea and is derivable from the Silver Rule.
There is no obvious day which should be considered a Sabbath nor any other Holy Day, and the Christian Apostle Paul even said so in his New Testament letters.
Note that the Tenth Commandment forbids lusting for another man's wife, but does not forbid desiring his daughter, assuming she isn't already married or betrothed. Forbidding all sexual desire for a future partner would be ridiculous and obviously is not the intention of the commandment, so what some radical pentecostals and other cultists do, such as swearing celibacy of no real reason or even castrating themselves, that's INSANE and is not the intention of the commandments.
Note too:
Pentecostalism is against Wisdom and against Paul's own teaching. Paul actually FORBADE "speaking in tongues" unless you could guarantee interpretation. So what Pentecostals do in their "praise and worship" services is both INSANE and against their own Apostles' commandment Paul said NOT to speak out loud in tongues, because people who hear you will think you are INSANE.
So even if you hypothetically had the "Real" Gift of Tongues, you aren't supposed to speak it out loud unless you or someone listening can guarantee an intelligent and accurate interpretation.
Thus Pentecostalism is a fraud.
Any complex enough mortal attempt to convey Truth will end up having flaws in it no matter how careful the authors are. Do you know Collegiate Math and Science texts often have a section in the back of the book which corrects errors in previous editions of the book? My Math text from College even had a section called "Lies my Calculator Told Me," because Calculators CANNOT solve most Limits correctly.
A Limit and a Discreet solution are not always identical. No matter how many "9"s you add behidn a decimal, there will always be a missing trailing 1, so the sum is not "1", but a calculator will "lie" and tell you the sum is "1".
Anyway, the point is writing a collegiate text that is 100% truthful and accurate is difficult to do, especially since we don't always know with 100% certainty the truth of what we are writing in science or math.
Let's take a statistical analysis of God's existence.
In Statistical Data analysis, you must assume one missing data sample on both ends of a sample in order to compute all of the terms correctly.
This implies a statistical analysis of God's existence is REQUIRED to assume One God already exists, whether "Observed" or "Unobserved", as a bare necessity to represent any data at all.
IN other data sets, this is like trying to record the maximum winds of a hurricane. We can't really do that. We can only report the maximum winds that actually hit an anemometer. The real maximum sustained winds and the real maximum gust MAY be higher than that, because the real maximum in the storm is not guaranteed to hit a man-made anemometer.
Likewise, the True Creator is not required to reveal Himself to you at all, and he's certainly not required to "fully reveal" Himself. Therefore, to derive The True Creator's existence, YOU are required to use some integrity and actually SEARCH for the Truth.
So if you statistically analyze the existence of The True Creator God, the assumption of the existence of ONE God is in fact the Default position, required by the laws of Statistical Analysis, because it happens to be true. You must assume at least one instance of the phenomena which has not been observed.
The mere fact the term "God" exists strongly suggests GCB worth searching for exists. Hence statistically we expect to find exactly ONE God, and with no deviation.
A Created being cannot be the Greatest Conceivable Being, because that would make the Creator Greater than the GCB, which is a contradiction.
I can prove there can be only ONE God, and so all polytheistic religions are complete falsehoods.
God as we understand Him is The First Cause. There can only be exactly one "The First Cause" and exactly one "The True Creator" therefore there can be only exactly one The True God. All other alleged "gods" are either complete falsehoods (Polytheism), or at best misguided attempts to represent the real one (Judaism, Islam, and Christianity for example).
The Real God is provably Monotheistic, again primarily because there is EXACTLY ONE "THE FIRST CAUSE".
For you Trinitarian Christians, there are not three First Causes and there are not "Three person's of God". The term "Being" and "Person" have the same basic meaning, so the GCB is not "three persons" He is One Person who is Almighty, Omni-Omni, and Transcendent.
The property of Transcendence is provable, as the properties of Logic and Understanding are Transcendent, which proves The First Cause is Logical and has Understanding, as only a property closely related to the First Cause could express the property of Transcendence. Namely, the Creator uses Logic and has Understanding, therefore The Creator is an intelligent MIND.
It’s not just conservative’s who cherry pick the Bible. Anyone who looks to the Bible as an authority will selectively quote only those verses which line up with their world view.
The Books within the bible was written 200 years after the death of Christ so is imperfect document at best. Not that it has stopped anyone who wishes to impose moral authority as claiming it as the absolute word of Christ.
But to answer your question, conservatives cherry pick the Bible because they have too. The bible says nothing against gays or abortion and yes it is claimed Jesus hates both. What is really happening is that modern day fundamental control freaks are using a document many people take as an authority to impose their own hatred on the world by cherry picking the most stilted versus of the Bible. Cherry picking the Bible is the only way conservatives can ignore the openness and beauty offered to us by the master of love, Jesus Christ.
Because actually following it or the old testament where God is scary, is inconvenient to say the least and would land them in prison for life. Plus they prefer the happy uplifting shit and want to dismiss the bad shit.
Because they want to believe what they believe, regardless of any evidence that may prove them incorrect in their beliefs
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Why does any religion cherry-pick the shit out of their stuff? Like Muslims worship, a guy that was fucking a 9-year-old, was a bandit and waged war. Both the bible and koran have instructions on how to beat slaves, women, and children. I read those books and try to pick out the useful stuff myself and ignore that bullshit that wouldn't fly in today's world. I feel people that read those books and justify their causes from them do the same. Just like our modern communists that just ignore Stalin killed more people than Hitler.
And let's rember how many times was rewritten lol.
Now I don't want to offend anyone yet I don't belive we humans where so humble back then we savge yo even this days.
It's more to kind understand what is right and wrong but their way of saying it.
Because people need to belive in something to have fate in it. And to be able to blame someone for all the stuff they kind mess up and blame the big guy cuz yo it's easy to blame the gods.
2 Timothy 4:1 - 4
New International Version
In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: 2 Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. 3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
I think they're trying to find a philosophy in there that guides their life. It's an ancient collection of books and translated endlessly down from ancient scrolls. But it's an insight into humanity passed down over generations. I found it too boring to read though. Beyond the dark parts, I struggled even with Genesis with the list of names.
I'd like to try to get through some of these books so fundamental to Western civilization. I have a sorta similar problem with Shakespeare although the difficulty to me with Shakespeare is understanding the prose. The difficulty I find with the Bible is to avoid dozing off while reading the prose.
It's not limited to religious conservatives. Many people cherry pick data, parts of a book, or information to make whatever point they're trying to make. That's why it's always important to put things in context and check a second source before forming one's opinion.
Probably because they never bothered to actually READ it. Oh, sure, they know chapter & verse but have they ever THOUGHT about what they're reading? ANYBODY can memorize and quote lines but do they understand what the overall text was about, etc?
Like you said, they only pick out the parts they like.
Not once have I heard Eziekiel 23:30 in a sermon.
No one mis-interprets the Bible than those who claim to be "Christian"
That's why they have 44,000+ OFFICIAL denominations.
This book that says their "god is not the author of CONFUSION" yet these Christian returds are the most CONFUSED bunch on the planet.
That only proved the OPPOSITES. Despite thousands of different choices about emphasis all those agree on christian doctrine.
It’s the rationalizing with slavery and debauchery whilst trying to be holier than thou that makes them look like idiots.
I’m in a months long convo with a guy who keeps saying my opinions on slavery are “out of context.” Yeah, I guess owning a human being has context apparently.
This is a middle-school-tier argument that only the most deluded leftoids would cite. Nobody besides the most eccentric Protestants "cherry-pick" the Bible; they follow religious traditions and methodologies that lead to certain conclusions. *Everyone* familiar with Christianity knows this.
There are numerous categories of people who cherry-pick the Bible.
There's also great disagreement amongst those of any one category as to the interpretation of the Bible.
I don't see that ever changing.
C'est la vie.
Most of them haven't read it and don't mind the hypocrisy. Have you seen the way the Evangelicals go on about Trump, and ignore his many many sins?
Why do religious progressives cherry-pick the Bible? You will find that the answer to both questions will be the same.
Because what you call cherry picking is not really to "support a claim." It is the way new testament said to view the previous.
Everyone does that with the Bible. My aunt made me read it when I was younger it has some seriously bad things in there but everyone ignores it.
You can find pretty much anything you want in the Bible.
Because miserable people love company would be my guess.
The old testament is dark, however the Christian bibles new testament is how Christians live. The old testament is still in the Christian Bible because there are still lessons in it, the new testament revises the old based one Jesus's teachings.
I dunno. Why do atheist lib-tards cherry pick the super poor track-record of atheistic systems in preventing the worst human-caused atrocities known to mankind?
Probably similar reasoning going on I suspect.
They have serious cognitive dissonance. They are fooling themselves and/or trying to fool others.
It may be a political platform for them to nitpick their political stances on
you have to cherry pick the bible cause it contradicts itself. you can't follow it litterally.
@Djaay www.youtube.com/watch
the bible is full of contradictury shit due to the plethora of different authors with differing indivdual opinions and agendas. that's how you understand that book. not by glossing over the blatant contradictions and illogical bullshit and just say that "you're just too dumb or faithless".
Yeah I'd say murdering the Son of God is pretty dark, yeah
Be glad that they are cherry picking.
ISIS is what happened when some people decided to follow their religious books to the letter.
Anyone that cherry-pick the Bible isn't a actual Christian. I take God's word as exactly how it's written. The good, bad and ugly.
The same reason why anyone cherry picks data. To push their agenda
They mostly use the Bible to make points when arguing.
Maybe your cherry pickin as well. By the way fyi im not religious either.
They do a lot more good than you I'm sure. You're always spewing hatred on this site.
Lol ok Karen
Its only a “dark” book because modern society takes it out of context
They don't. Why do non-believers cherry pick the Bible?
A lot of the dark stuff requires further context when teaching
Why wouldn’t they pick the parts they like?
Don't we all cherry pick from the things we like?
You sound like a bigot to me.
What is bad in there?
Liberals cherry pick far more.
cause they merely use it to feel superiority.
the bible is literal and true
The Bible claims one man and one woman were created from dirt abut 6750 years ago.
We know from real science that Mitochondrial DNA proves there were at least FOUR very different and very unique women in the first generation of modern human beings, and considering how many of the first generation could have died due to war and famine and plague, etc, there might have been more than 4 mitochondrial lineages at some point. Anyway, Mitochondrial DNA proves the Biblical Creation story wrong.
Sorry, but the Bible is full of so many frauds and fallacies that it should be banned except like one copy in each Museum just as evidence that someone tried to tell the truth, but got almost everything laughably wrong.
I believe in God, and I believe in Special Creation, but the Bible is not God's Book.
God's Book is a Physics Book "Fundamentals of Physics Extended Edition".
Read it.
@Wade12345
stop it science is fake
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