Gay Conversion Therapy & Christian Straight Camp's. Why are liberals against gay people seeking help & choosing to be cured?

[Anonymous]

I was a Councillor in one, it's where I met my wife. Various conversion treatments are used to help you walk on the straight and narrow path. Hours of prayer, counciling, religious study, canning, spanking, paddling, aversion therapy, Psychoanalysis, Hypnosis water boarding and marraige therapy.

I've seen first hand how this works. My wife used to be a lesbian and had a secret girlfriend growing up, she was very unhappy because of it. I remember when her parents dropped her off on the first day age 15. My wife and I are happily married with kids and have a good sex life, the thought of sleeping with another woman again now makes her physically sick thanks to the treatment she received and embraces Jesus and a Christian life.

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‘For this reason God gave them up to dishonourable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error’
Romans 1:26-27

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Mark 10:6-9
6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’
7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,
8 and the two will become one flesh.’So they are no longer two, but one flesh.
9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

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You can be saved

[snackthatsmilesback]

What the fuck. Spanking? Waterboarding? What even the fuck is canning? How old are these kids, and the councelors, I know you fuckers aren't adults right? Cause there's no way you met her as an adult when she was 15, nah—you must have worked with the boys anyway, cause there's no way you did any of this "therapy" to a 15 yo girl with your own hands and then got in a relationship with her right?

At LEAST tell me this was a situation where the camps are split both counselors and victims by gender, and you two met like in passing by, and then later on like 3 or so years later you met her again and that's when your relationship started. At least that would be not very sketchy for a marriage.

And fucking besides that point, I wanna know, what training do the straight sex deviants get? What camps do you send the sex offenders to to fix them? If you can fix the sin of gay surely you can fix the sin of pedophilia the same way because they're both sex based right? And what about the straight kids who don't wanna wait til marriage? Or the married straights who cheat? Do they get the same treatment too so they learn to not commit the sin of promiscuity? Cause surely these types of help is not only available to gays right? There's no way that of all the sexual sins, you only provide such helpful fixing camps for 1 of them.

[Asker]

They came to us looking for help and we helped them. Reeducating Homosexuals requires they be exposed to the opposite sex. Yes I had dealings with my wife, it broke my heart but spare the rod. The biggest problem the lgbtq mafia seems to have with all this is that its voluntary and it works. We return to soceity good Christians that want to live good Christian lives and raise Christian families.

[snackthatsmilesback]

No it fucking doesn't require the opposite sex! In fact if ur the one doing bad shit to them you should be the same sex so they get bad association with the same sex who does bad shit to them. What the fuck these are minors they can't even consent to sex they definitely can't consent to torture! Spare the rod doesn't mean fucking beat other peoples kids it means discipline your own kids. Good Christian should NEVER lay hands on a child. Love your child. Protect the orphan. Don't bully your kids. Etc.

And again, what about ALL the other sexual "sins?" You have camps for cheaters and masturbaters and pedophiles and pornos? Does it work on them too? Cause I know some of them are just as fucked up by the church as those gays and would voluntarily go to a torture camp to try to "fix" what's wrong with them.

[Asker]

We help all those members of the lgbtq including pedophiles.
Masturbators are usually helped at a local level by a pastor or parents.
They come to us as confused sinners and leave happy well adjusted Hetrosexual Christians ready for marriage, like my wife.

[snackthatsmilesback]

Okay. Okay. So can you explain to me how those different things work like the spanking and the waterboarding and hypnosis? I was always told hypnosis was witchcraft in the church. And torture was bad. So how do you use those just day to day at a camp to train children to be straight? What is the procedure for when to do what thing to a child, and when to do a different thing? Is the more extreme stuff only used in rare cases, or does everyone get the same treatment involving all of the things during their camp experience? Can a child choose to quit or leave early, or do they have to finish the program? And is the program a specific length of time, or do they have to be approved to "graduate" by someone in charge?

[Asker]

It does. We learned that you need to keep homosexuals apart from the same gender with counsellors from the opposite sex with opposite sex counselors etc because you could probably guess what would happen if two deviant same sex homosexuals were left alone together. We find girls more likely to have homosexual tendencies but are easier to fix than homosexual men. Trans folks can be difficult but we get them to accept that they can never be a different gender and accept themselves for who they are. We help pedophiles lgbtq people to repress their unnatural urges and if they can't we get them to get chemically castrated.

[snackthatsmilesback]

... Okay. So can you explain to me how those different methods are actually practiced at a camp, the spanking and the waterboarding and hypnosis? How do you, day to day, train children to be straight? What is an example of one of these tools in practice? Is the more extreme stuff only used in rare cases, or does everyone get the same treatment during their camp experience? Can someone choose to quit early, or do they have to finish once they sign up? And is the camp a specific length of time, or is this a long-tern thing andbthey have to be approved to leave by someone in charge? Also is it just for minors or can adults get help at these camps as well?

[Asker]

It's a whole process involving highly trained medical professionals. I only helped out as a counselor and administrating some treatments under supervision.
They can leave at anytime, often we provide bus fare from Mexico to San Francisco

[snackthatsmilesback]

So what treatment did you administer. Can you give me one example? The first time you administered a punishment for example. What exactly were you told to do to the girl, and were you told why? Was she told who you were and what was going to happen too? How did she respond to that punishment? Just one example of something specific being done to a girl by you.

[Asker]

I helped with the water boarding and electro shock aversion treatment. They responded by seeing homosexual feeling as making them physically sick. The paddling is where I met my wife, I was brought in to relieve the pastor who's hand was getting sore from spanking her, we made a connection there.

[snackthatsmilesback]

"Helped" HOW. Explain. I want you to explain what actually went down because I think you're full of shit now. And I bet you won't. Very simple just answer the questions to fill in details you should know if you actually did any of this shit: one example of waterboarding. Did you use clothe or rubber? A hose or a shower head? How high over her face did you hold it? Did you say anything to her before or during it, and did she say anything to you? Did she cry? Did she throw up? How long did you waterboard her? What temperature was the water? Was she over a tub or bucket? What kind of clothes was she wearing and you wearing? Was she wearing makeup? Was she shaking afterwards? Was she scared? Who all was in the room?
Even half of those questions come on. Give me something concrete. I wanna know what these camps are actually like but you won't tell me and I think its cause you don't rlly know.

[Asker]

Buddy this wasn't a sexual thing. It was done on special table where the feet are tied and arms tied. Holy water is used and gospel music is playing.

[snackthatsmilesback]

Okay there we go. Something specific. I'm confused as to why you play gospel music during the torture because usually that would make them hate gospel music wouldn't it? Why not associate bad things with when they aren't being waterboarded isn't that what aversion therapy is? But yeah and I never fucking implied it was sexual so why that comeback. Bro. I thought you were some guy who just really hates gays and would like to participate in a camp like that but didn't, because I was hoping even a camp like like wouldn't let random dudes join in and hit the children.

[IceCreamSandwich]

"and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error" so leave them alone.

By your own rulebook, it's not your job or place to punish them. Even your god leaves them to natural consequences instead of striking them down in this passage. Take a lesson from him why don't you.

[Asker]

We are punishing them, we are correcting them and their deviant behaviour.

[FunkyMonkee]

In other words, you're torturing and abusing them! There's a jail cell waiting for you with a visiting psychiatrist that'll try to cure YOU!!

[Asker]

@FunkyMonkee no we are helping them. They come in with an affliction and leave cured. Why do you have a problem with people choosing their sexuality?

[FunkyMonkee]

YOU, are asking ME if I have a problem with people choosing their sexuality? YOU'RE ALL OVER this thread preaching about how YOU change people's sexuality choices!! WHAT A PSYCHO!! You've got bubbles in the think tank and should check into the nearest Ha-Ha Hotel immediately!!

[Asker]

@FunkyMonkee they come to us seeking change because they are unhappy in their sun.

[FunkyMonkee]

They're sun? Oh, is THAT what we call it, now?

[Asker]

@FunkyMonkee sin. Sorry.

[FunkyMonkee]

The bible mentions at least 15 times how eating shrimp is a sin!! It only mentions homosexuality 3 or 4 times! Why aren't you using your methods to get people to stop eating shrimp since that it, obviously a much bigger sin?

[Asker]

@FunkyMonkee Matthew 15:16-18
“Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
Homosexuality Is mentioned many times.

[FunkyMonkee]

Like the T-shirt says, "Jesus saves but I recycle!"

[Anonymous]

So you want to replace something that comes naturally with brainwashing?

People like you belong in prison.

[Asker]

Sodomy is not natural

[Agagagagaga]

Sodomy is disgusting and unnatural.

[docster]

You married Lacey Chabert? Lucky guy. I didn't know she was a Christian. I'm a Christian myself but I find it hard to believe they have caning, water boarding, spanking and paddling at those places. I've never heard of such places in the U. S.

[FunkyMonkee]

If he is, his name must be David Nehdar. This guy mentions having "kids", Lacey's only got one kid! She was already famous by the time she was 9 and was busy shooting, "Lost In Space" when she was 15.

[jshm2]

Can you not spell "brainwashing" or something?

It's all GCT is, in effect. You're just dressing it up as something religious, when it's not.

[Asker]

It's called help

[Red_Arrow]

Yeah, the Nazis had similar explanations for the Jews.

[Asker]

@Red_Arrow and for Christians.

[FunkyMonkee]

LMAO!! It's NOT a disease so, you CAN'T cure it!!

[Asker]

That's what they want you to think.

[FunkyMonkee]

How long have you had the disease of being straight?

[Asker]

An abusive is not a vagina.

[Asker]

An anus

[FunkyMonkee]

DUUUUHHH!! Your point?

[Anonymous]

Because liberals have become intolerant to anything they don't believe in.