Why do you think the "Jewish God" Yahweh did not save "even his people" jews from getting abducted and killed in the October 7 massacre?

[strateguy632]

i only know my guess but what is your guess, Why do you think the "Jewish God" Yahweh did not save "his people" jews from getting abducted and killed, by #palestinians in the October 7 massacre?

[ManOnFire]

First let me say: we have to stop using the term Yahweh as believers. Yahweh is a pagan word and is never once used by anyone in the Bible to call God that. The real word was Yhwh, or as close to what God was saying to Moses as we will be able to understand as meaning "I am who I am." The Yahweh thing is a translation issue. Even Jesus does not call God Yahweh.

God didn't save them because at the end of the day they are no different than anyone else in the world who will experience suffering, even if they are Jews. However, what we do know from the OT it was already prophesied that the Jews/Israel would continue to experience violence and difficulty at the hands of their neighbors even to this day. So that should give you some idea.

[strateguy632]

1 about yhwh it had vowels. what do you think the vowel was?
2 no different? but that was the point of the QUOTATION marks, not to mock the victims but to connect! jeremia called god the god of israel if so why not protect "even his nation"?

[ManOnFire]

It didn't have vowels. Translators included them because it was the best way they could give sound to a word that had no vowels. Some people even think YHWH is literally the sound of air or breath, like God is actually naming himself as breath of life.

It's still a good question, I just think there are still going to be casualties among even God's people. Even when the Israelites were fighting into the land of Caanan they lost some people.

[Lionman95]

Because he never promised them to save them from evil. Like no where in the Bible or the Tanach one could find a promise that life on earth is easy and always positive so to say. Another reason is because people nowadays care about themselves and less about God. by the way I'm not really sure why you talk about the Jewish God since I would say the Christians and Jews worship the same God they are just coming from different angles.

[RedInnocent68]

And so do the Muslims (worship the same God as the Christians and Jews).

[Lionman95]

With all respect I disagree because Christians and Muslims describe God differently. Islam is a different kind of faith tradition and religion since first of all the New Testament and Tanach the Jewish holy book to me show no need for extra revelation. To both groups the Messiah is THE prophet. Jews are still waiting for him, Christians say it´s Jesus Christ. From that point there´s no need for any extra revelation that´s focused on a different person, with a different heritage and language.
But to me there are too many differences between Jews, Christians and Muslims to say that they all worship the same god.

[RedInnocent68]

I get the theological argument, but there are Muslims that would disagree. Religions need cut-offs to protect themselves. Christianity did not exist in its current form until hundreds of years after Christ, they were just weird Jews. To think about it another way, are Mormons Christians, and do they worship the same God?

[Lionman95]

No I neither consider Mormons or Jehova witnesses Christians because they either mistranslate the original Greek text according to their ideology (JW) or they add a book as special revelation that's completely unnecessary and not in line with the biblical tradition.

[strateguy632]

to lion content never promised what about leviticus 26:6

[strateguy632]

to lion content same god, but jeremiah 7 called god the god of israel.

[Lionman95]

So where´s Israel´s sanctuary then? The context is important God promises Israel peace if they keep the commands and have reverence for God´s sanctuary. I therefore understand that as a promise of God depending on Israel´s relationship to God because some verses later in verse 17 God promises to let Israel´s enemies rule over them. I´m generally cautious to say that a certain verse is equivalent with the current situations because I don´t see the full picture just a part of it.
Sure there are certain verses that promises Israel a good life but they always come with conditions that if people don´t obey there will be a form of punishment.

[Lionman95]

Take for instance Job God called him his servant in Job 1,8 and still let him suffer.

[Mansearching]

Its the same god as Christian god, for 1.

Sometimes he/she has to let things happen. I see it as he's/ she's calling them home. God never says/said how you're going home. Just when god calls you, you're going home.

[strateguy632]

to man a, but see jeremiah chapter 7 god is called the god of israel. b, has to? like forced? 3 when you say "calling home" you mean to death? that can't be because then they would die in their sleep not by enemy gun and not get abducted. this is a faith question.

[Mansearching]

Calling them home is an expression to calling them to their heaven. "Their heaven " is what ever religion they follow.

[imran_]

Really! This is just another attempt to vitiate Islam and the Muslims. More jews were killed before. 🍃

[strateguy632]

the question has NO mention of the religion which you claimed was faulty.

[007kingifrit]

i think anyone who uses any word other than "God" to refer to god is a leftist atheist who is probably depressed and on meds so who cares what he thinks

[strateguy632]

so like MOSES who wrote the book of moses was that? he wrote yahweh hundreds of times and elohim. abraham said many names.

[007kingifrit]

we aren't living in those old days, my rule is for today

[Grond21]

He never operated that way. Nor would he start now.

What is your guess?

[strateguy632]

what about david report in psalm chapter 9?
https://www.biblestudytools.com/psalms/9.html
there
i guess due to free will of evil doers?

[Grond21]

What about it? This is David writing a song of praise to God for what he has seen, not God giving promises on how he will behave to the people.

[RedInnocent68]

God doesn’t work like that, doesn’t have people, and doesn’t back countries.

[strateguy632]

but see jeremia chapter seven? he has a nation?

[RedInnocent68]

Right…

[OddBeMe]

Mmm…. I mean the Christian god doesn’t exist, so maybe this one too? Since they’re the same god. Same answer for Islam.

[Staximus]

Because God is about as real as Santa Claus

[strateguy632]

another baseless claim. if you cannot support a claim then do not claim it.

[Staximus]

You have zero evidence of any gods existence.

[Twalli]

Because their god is the same as the Muslim god.

[strateguy632]

because? you think alla was helping the muslims attack? to kill innocent israeli civilians and abduct jews from their homes and personal lives for the past month?

[Twalli]

No Allah wasn't, but it's just a different word for God. The biggest difference between those two religions and Christianity is the trinity.