LABELS are Important - Even if it's a Necessary Evil

[Anonymous]

This is a follow up to my previous take https://www.girlsaskguys.com/health-fitness/a22686-fat-is-not-curvy

Once again I prefer to stay anonymous since I don't want to attach a face to all the hatred I have received or am about to receive.

So on my last take the most common arguments to my article were that people can label themselves as whatever they want and that people shouldn't care what they do with their life (although most of them did admit that just because you label yourself as something doesn't mean it's going to change the views of the majority). The other argument was regarding the definition of curvy and some of them even managed to delude themselves into thinking that a "curve" and "curvy" are the same thing.

The definition of a curve from google states;

In that sense yes all women as well as men are indeed curvy regardless of size or shape since the human body is comprised of zero straight lines.

However that would have been the case if "curvy" and "curve" indeed meant the same thing but the thing is they don't.

The definition of curvy (also from google) is defined as

informal refers to an unofficial style, manner, or nature, which in this case is true since curvy is more of a view than an actual definition of a curve.

Shapely is just another word for attractive or well proportioned (which curvy is exactly supposed to be) whereas voluptuous means curvaceous and sexually attractive.

Now that we settled the definition of curvy, lets move on to labels.

First of all I don't care what people label themselves, I only care when doing so comes at the detriment of other people. Like it or not labels are what defines us and they have an important impact on society. Gay, straight, veteran, your name all have their importance. And when people start attaching negative connotations to a label is when people start getting pissed because it affects them as well.
It's the same reason why calling yourself a police officer when your not one is a crime.

For example, I am questioning my sexuality. I don't know how to label my sexuality. I think that I have a fluid sexuality but I can't really determine what I think my sexuality could be.

Labels are important because we need a way to describe something or someone. Without that, there isn't an exact way to describe someone.

The society that we live in, I feel has an "either/or" way of labeling things. I think most people feel that things should either be this way or that way. They feel that there is "no in-between" way of describing things. And in most cases this is generally true.

Kind of hypocritical to post this picture isn't it but guess what I agree with it 100%. However just because I agree with it doesn't mean people will stop labeling other people. I'm a product of my environment not the other way around. No matter how much I try to change it, it will always be the one to win.

We either adhere by society's rule or become an outcast.

When it comes to curvy and mislabeling;

The more fat women start calling themselves curvy the more the word becomes synonymous with fat.
Sooner or later curvy will just be another word for fat. So all the hard work that I and countless other women have done just to achieve this figure in a society where being skinny is an expectation, would have been for nothing. I don't care what other people call themselves, I only care when doing so comes at the detriment of other people. I am only human, I still have wants and desires. I want to be attractive just like any other person.
Men won't be attracted to me if I was fat, because society deems fat as undesirable.

For example, labeling you're self as something you're not may not be a crime but it is definitely looked down upon, a skinny guy claiming to be muscular undermines the value of those who worked hard to obtain those muscles.

[Bandit74]

There's both positive and negative labels, it's just that nobody likes it when a negative label applies to them but they're more than happy to claim a label they perceive as positive even if it isn't accurate.

Curvy has more of a positive connotation that fat or chubby so they prefer to identify as curvy even if they don't fit everyone else's definition of curvy. But that's not enough, they want everyone else to define curvy the same way they do 😅

I already know I'm going to get downvotes so ill continue...

I don't have much sympathy for fat people. Looks matter , always have, always will and of all the traits you can have that would be detrimental to your attractiveness, your weight is one if the few that you have a reasonable amount of control over.

I have more sympathy for people who are labeled as unnatractive due to things like asymmetric jawline, poor facial harmony, abnormally large/crooked nose, really short/really tall, balding, severe acne, facoal scaring, cross eyed etc. Those things generally weren't a result of your actions and are often harder to change than weight (depending on how fat you are). And oddly it seems like fat people get more sympathy than those people.

Fuck the fat acceptance movement. Where's the acne scared face acceptance movement or the ugly jawline acceptance movement or the cross eyed or short guy/ tall girl acceptance movement?

[Bandit74]

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[LittleSally]

Then I label you 'anonymous'. =)

This has been done to death. Everyone knows what curvy means - they just don't want to admit it to themselves.

[myTake Owner]

Well then think of it as take for labels.

[PromiseIllBeNice]

i agree. let them lie to themselves but they're not fooling anyone

[Accipiter]

I agree with you that labels are good when it is all factual and as long as they aren't based entirely on generalizations. I do think it's wrong when labels are assigned to people out of generalization. Too often people label others they barely know by saying things like, "That person is a: hipster, meterosexual, redneck, nerd, bitch, high-maintenance, hippy, stoner, stuck-up, hick, poser, etc." And often they are wrong with these assumptions. However labels that are not subjective such as physical appearance like: young, old, skinny, curly haired, bald, black, white, Asian, native, fat, curvy, muscular, husky, etc. These aren't so much labels as they are factual discriptions

[nakedalligator]

It's so stupid. Fat people aren't curvy, they're round.

Calling yourself curvy when you're fat is more then bending the truth, it's simply a lie.

When it comes down to it, doesn't matter what you call it, it's not going to change what people think of you, you are what you are, and if you don't like it, do something about it.

[the_rake]

Women shaped in such a mamner may be referred to as 'large' or 'big boned'. That way, they avoid angering there more modestly curvaceous counterparts whilst maintaining their dignity and elegance as women that could still be attractive to men preferring a little 'cushion for the pushing'.

[Anonymous]

In regards to the last part "labeling you're self as something you're not may not be a crime but it is definitely looked down upon". I once told someone who was heavier then me that I want to lose weight and she got upset. She was like "I'm the one who needs to lose weight." Basically she felt I was taking light of weight loss. I feel saying losing weight as a skinny person upsets people. The word to use was "tone".

[GrantSalton]

Labels are all around us , defining people , doctors , heroes, Warriors , Satan.

We choose to use them to decrease explanation about someone, and sometimes those titles aren't always good.

[Anonymous]

Labels are created to be used by lazy people who use a limited vocabulary and have prejudices.
They're not forced to use labels but it's so easy and thus tempting.

[Anonymous]

According to your mytake, apparently punctuation marks and grammar don't matter to you either.

[MysteriousFlower]

Labels are just that-labels 😊