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The Far Left Liberal/Socialist Movement Is Shockingly Close to the Nazi Party (Page 2)
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I believe college education should be free but only based on academic ability, you shouldn't be able to have your parents buy your education if your not worthy. Also only free for worthwhile degrees degree that are essentially worthless in the real world ie gender studies.
Well, except for the "massacring millions of jews" bit. I don't think Obamer is going to be the next hitler. Now if things do, er, develop that way in the next few months, I'll definitely be the first fleeing to Japan. Maybe some day the world will finally learn to love...
Sigh. The issues you mentioned in #1 were Nazi Party economic planks before they came to power at the fall of the Weimar Republic, but were quickly abandoned by the party in 1925. Although the party was in complete control of the entire German government, almost none of these were implemented.
The difference between Nazis and modern Liberals is that while Liberals use similar tactics, it's for the benefit of societal groups rather than the government itself.
Lastly, the quote at the end was made by Gregor Strasser in 1926, not Adolf Hitler. Strasser was a party member that advocated for a more Liberal economic approach (like taking care of the poor and supporting the working class). Hitler had him killed.
I suggest you get your facts straight before you go talking about things.
"hitler looked dorky, so do obama and bernie sanders!! liberals are neonazis confirmed!!!"
Liberal ass mongers!
@shinyunicorn
"Hitler had two legs, Hitler was a Nazi your neighbor has two legs. Thus your neighbor is a nazi."
That's the logic used by @Supersonic_Sex_Ninja and C°
Classic fallacy.
@jacquesvol there are also people who claim vegans are neonazis because hitler was vegan. hitler also had a mustache, that must mean all men with mustaches are neonazis!!!
seriously y'all need to get a life
Dude you completely skipped over why people didn't like the nazi's. People dislike communism because of the way the government abuses their promises and instead funnels money into their own pockets. People hated the Nazi's because of the Mass genocides. Not because of their policies. That's how communism works. People love the policies but leap into it to fast and don't set up checks and balances to ensure the government doesn't simply steal from them and use them. The ideals of communism isn't the problem it's the practice. But go ahead and push whatever weird as unimportant agenda you've got going on here.
Excellent & intelligent , good to see a " Sheep Free Zone " All this was brought to you by the House of Rothschild , they are heads of the world banking Cartel. THEY give the orders to & finance Big Biz , Big Gov & the Military Industrial Complex !! Look up Agenda 21 !!
Generally I'm in agreeance, but my only issue is the limitations of that political spectrum. At this point we should be moving past just left/right. There should be at least one more axis, if not more. This biz is complicated and giving people an overly simplistic system is promoting ignorance.
Truth be told history does and always will repeat itself, we can't stagnate in the middle of the political spectrum forever, anarchy will just bring us back to a form of pseudo feudalism, while going left brings us to communism, welcome to the human condition. population: all of us
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Why is it that whenever anybody dislikes somebody they always compare them to Hitler?
Why is it that none of you have this problem when they compare trump to Hitler lol
I do, I hate these people as much as you do, I just don't understand why people always compare the ones they don't like to Hitler every single time. These people are everything Hitler was against.
This was a poorly informed rant. You didn't do any actual research and just started saying what you believe to be true.
Fascism is the far right not Libertarianism. And the Nazis were fascists. Look up the definition of fascism and you'll see that every definition refers to it as being far right or ultra conservative.
And libertarians are against God in school, pro-pot and pro-choice. None of the things you conservatives support.
You just did everything you tried to accuse me of doing.
The bitter irony :/
No I didn't. I researched the definition of fascism and what libertarians stand for.
@John_Doesnt I'm still ondering if @Supersonic_Sex_Ninja (what a nick!) is poorly informed or just copied some hater who deliberately told a bunch of lies.
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@John_Doesnt
@Supersonic_Sex_Ninja clearly didn't research much.
I can agree with the overall theory you put forth, especially about feminists and the PC nazis! You seem to be picking on them exclusively though. The Bible Nazis of the right are just as evil. You mention Sanders, and Obama, yet nothing of Hillary and Trump, just as radical, and even more so in the pocket of the financial elite than the other two.
Although I don't like the guy, he was actually quite correct:
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Only the fact that you compare SJW liberal retards with National Socialists (thats what you call "Nazi") puts you beyond the boundaries of an intelligent discussion. Comparing Adolf Hitler with Obama and Sanders for fucks sake I can't believe it!
Aside from the lack of genocide, what differences are there between Hitler's ideaology and Obama's?
@gotc147 I can't believe you really ask this.
Read the National Socialist ideology and tell me if you see anything "Obama" in there. A man with no ideology at all.
https://www.national-socialism.com
Answer the question please.
@gotc147 No I don't answer anything. Make you're research instead of asking nonsense.
Considering that Nazi is an abbreviation for "National Socialist" I'm not sure why this is such a revelation.
Going by the comments, I'm not sure.
It's disgusting
It's because liberals are the modern day nazi... the NAZI's in the 30s and 40s didn't think they were evil either.
How on earth are the nazis left? They were a dictatorship.
They were fascist... they were extreme left wing.
Stalin was a dictator, does that not make him a communist?
A dictatorship is not right nor left, so that aspect doesn't really matter. You can have extremists on either side. In this case Hitler was an extremist on the left. Hitler actually had many of the same values as the modern day progressives. Socialism, expanding women's rights, being against smoking, gun control. Hitler was actually very progressive for his time in many of his policies.
National Socialism, aka, Nazi.
The Nazis were socialists, and socialists are from the left.
North Korea is communist, and they're a dictatorship too. same with what Venezuela is/was, Cuba, Vietnam...
Actually, most modern dictatorships, are from the left.
@AleDeEurope just because the word socialism is in the party name doesn't mean they're socialist any more than north korea, officially called the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic.
The Nazis were an extreme right wing totalitarian dictatorship. Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies. Nazism was based on race, and fundamentally different from class focused socialism.
Perhaps you did not get the memo, but every government of the left has been and continues to be a tyranny that is kept in place by state terror and mass murder.
FYI, National Socialism is an ideology of the left.
@cth96190 Really? so is ISIS and the taliban left wing? please dude.
You're the jon snow of politics - you know nothing.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_dictatorship
@00100100100
I did not say that ISIL and the Taliban were of the left.
You are attempting to construct a straw man argument.
@00100100100
PS: If you had formal academic education, which you clearly have not had, you would know that Wikipedia is not a reliable source.
Indeed, if any students at the university where I spend most of my days were to cite Wikipedia as a source they would be failed, instantly.
@cth96190 you said "every government of the left has been and continues to be a tyranny that is kept in place by state terror and mass murder"
So how many mass murders took place last year in socialist countries below?
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium
@00100100100
Those countries are Marxist socialism light, at least for now.
All socialists end up at the same place. Fabians end up in the same place as the Leninists and the Maoists, they just take longer to get there.
@cth96190 quoting you again "EVERY government of the LEFT has been and continues to be a tyranny that is kept in place by state terror and MASS MURDER."
So where are the mass murders in those governments of the left?
And spare me the slippery slope fallacy bs.
Tell me any Nazi ideology that is right wing. The definition of left is more govt. The definition of right is less govt. A dictatorship has to be left wing cuz they have total control over everything. The very definition of left wing. Communism is left and a dictatorship. Nazi Germany was a dictatorship and left wing. The farthest right its possible to be is no govt at all. People rule themselves. Look up the definitions.
@SüßeJäger The definition of left is not more government. You've been watching too much faux news. There are left and right wing dictatorships.
Maybe you should take 20 minutes to learn the difference instead of regurgitating propaganda and using faulty reasoning.
@00100100100
"The goal of socialism is communism." - Vladimir Lenin
www.brainyquote.com/.../vladimirle136421.html
@00100100100 I stopped watching all tv news years ago. What is one of the main hallmarks of a left govt? More govt control. What do democrats want? More govt control. What is one of the main hallmarks of the right? Smaller govt, less control. That's the basic foundation of what left and right are. They even called themselves socialist and united with the communists in the Bundestag to get a coalition. Both the commies and Nazis thought they were close enough ideologically they could get along. Of course the commies didn't know Hitler was going to turn on them. Educate me and tell me one thing the Nazis believed that was right. Don't give me the racism part either. Racism has nothing to do with left or right. I've met rabid racists on both sides.
Because the Left can't be a dictatorship. Right? My god I can't believe how stupid some people are.
@TheFlak38 Actually i was meaning to ask how they are left when they were right wing entirely in their ideals. The name does not make the political stance. But then not a surprise coming from americans who when so much as even hear the word socialism get into a mouth frothing frenzy due to 50 years of brainwashing against the USSR's regime.
Socialism only works is small doses, And it needs a lot of safeguards put into place. And it will never work the primary form of government.
@00100100100
Completely true but you can't expect trumpos to understand that.
@randomhobo
@WombRaider Left wing?
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@jacquesvol
What is that a picture for ants?
@WombRaider fascists were and are) extreme right wing.
I pointed this out in class one time. My former leftist journalist teacher freaked out. Pretty much like Hitler. I'm just glad she didn't have any Gestapo to call for. She would have.
Yeah, These fuckers are so indoctrinated and fanatical they get unhinged when someone points out their blatantly obvious flaws. They are the very definition of being able to dish it out but not take it.
What an awful lot of
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You nearly broke my Bull Manure meter: huge overload.
@Supersonic_Sex_Ninja
Please, learn at least a bit about politics and philosophy.
But you seem mainly talented for spewing gross insults.
This take is a showcase of gross ignorance.
No, no it is not.
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Uhhhhh... are they, do they want to slaughter whole racial groups? Because *that's* mostly what was wrong with the Nazi party... And doesn't prettymuch everyone compare the other side to Nazi's? Hasn't that been the standard "I don't like that other political party, so you shouldn't either" slur for over seventy years?
Really? Threatening the parents of children who have been indoctrinated by the Hitler regime wasn't a big deal? These weren't Jews or blacks or dissenters or anything like that, these were aryan whites, the ones who supposedly made up Hitler's entire base of support.
It's utterly disgusting how little people know of history.
@gotc147 are the socialists doing *that* either?
Give it a couple more years, Hitler didn't start off by throwing people into gas chambers right off the bat.
All I'm saying is that when you go to extremes to demonize people, the only people who will take your argument seriously are extremists. Nobody anywhere near the middle will take seriously the words of an extremist are extremists.
Err... I missed two thoughts together... nobody near the middle will listen to an extremist, only extremists listen to extremists
Then there are a lot of extremists, just visit any college campus.
No, I believe you...
You beat me to it, I was planing on writing a myTake on the topic.
Well written :)
Thanks :)
You are totally ignorant, you don't know what communism is... you are mistaking Stalinism for Communism - that's not the same.
No country in the world was ever communist country, not even USSR.
Stalinism was a totalitarian dictatorship, with socialist form of government.
Communism is an utopian society without social classes, without money, and without states.
Let me break down ideologies for you:
Socialism: you have two cows, the government takes one and gives it to your neighbor.
Communism: you have two cows, the government takes both of your cows and provides you with a cup of milk every day.
Naziism: you have two cows, the government shoots you and takes both of them.
Capitalism: you have two cows, you sell one and buy a bull.
Socialism leads to communism which leads to Naziism, capitalism keeps these evil ideologies at bay.
@gotc147 Not true, Communism is opposed to Nazism. Yeah, Socialism leads to Communism, but it never actually happened, in most cases, Socialist countries ended up being Stalinistic (like North Korea).
As for your description, the fact is, in Communism - everyone is equal, distribution of goods is based on needs of every family, every human works according to his/her abilities, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".
Was USSR a Communist country? Nope, obviously not, there was no real Communism there, it was just a Socialist country, with strong elements of Stalinism.
Every communist country in the world has all but a small few who are not dirt poor, those select few are the ruling class.
See Cuba for an example.
@gotc147 There are no "communist countries", get it? Those are all socialist countries. Communism is an utopian society, without state, without money, without classes - therefore, Cuba is obviously not a "communist country", because (I repeat myself) - Real Communism implies no State.
I think the Castro's, along with 99% of everybody else in the world would disagree with you.
@gotc147 Castro is 100% clueless about real communism, and so are you... not just you personaly, but most of you Americans.
Keep telling yourself that.
@gotc147 Well, you can keep telling yourself those Yankee-Doodle fairytales of yours man ;)
its not possible to have a real communistic country. there will have to be a person with position of power to manage the running of the country, or else it would just fall into chaos.
Animal Farm did this well, "Everyone is equal, but (insert leaders name here) is more equal than you, hence it gives us the right to decide what equal is".
Unfortunately, deciding whats best for everyone, deciding what equality is; needs power to be established. hence to develop a sense of enforcability- SOMEONE has to take the reigns- which results in them having more power than the rest.
communism will kill human innovation and development. with no incentive of any sort of advantage over another person; why would people bother to study hard or innovate when a person that has little to no education/job gets the same amount as they do?
@123cheesecake its not possible to have a real communistic country because communism is a society without a state.