@Supersonic_Sex_Ninja Sorry, I attributed that remark to the wrong person. @Rissyanne you were the one playing the underdog, saying your freedom of speech is taken away. That makes you the jerk.
@jacquesvol Citing Godwin's law to discredit a discussion about politics is a retarded non argument intended to shut down discussion with ridicule instead of forming a coherent argument. Bringing up tyranny, including Nazi's, can be very appropriate to political discussion, as it is in this case. It's not like people are debating PS4 vs. Xbox and some dip shit is making a Nazi argument... Learn to "Godwin's Law" properly please.
Good questions to ask might be,
Why are millions willing to vote for a crazy fuck like Trump? Why are so many Bernie supporters violent?
@Jager66 Using a Hitler/nazi parallel to discredit an opponent in politics is a retarded non argument intended to shut up opposition by comparing them to the WORST criminals instead of forming a coherent argument. Bringing up tyranny, including Nazi's, can be very efficient to do that.
@jacquesvol Yes, but that's not what was happening here, what happened here is that someone made an argument comparing Nazi's to the radical left and then a debate followed.
"That's what the trumpo who wrote this take and the trumpos cheering it do."
This is also how you have tried to use Godwin's Law, so perhaps you have more in common with the "trumpos" then you think.
Coz, you have shitty opinions on something which you have no freaking clue about. I'm sorry for you because, you might pick up a firearm and go on a rampage after reading this.
If I had known that you are a troll user with a troll profile , I wouldn't have even considered giving you a sound rebuke. It was only after I saw a fellow friend commenting on here that I took a stand. Perhaps., no point blaming the liberals now. It must time to get back to your hourly rate job I suppose. Good luck
Citing Godwins law is a non argument. In this case, comparing a modern tyrannical socialist movement to the Nazi's is an apt comparison and dismissing it because "Godwins Law" is ignorant.
Godwin's law only states that the longer a political debate goes on the more likely it becomes that a comparison to Hitler will be made. It is NOT A case of "you said nazi/Hitler, you lose".
@gotc147 the idea of Godwin's law is that when someone is lacking good arguments in a discussion he'll begin to compare the other with Hitler and Nazis. Take owner started with that, thus admitting his lack of better argumentation from start.
@jacquesvol Except it IS a good argument, as I said in my last comment to you, if you overlook the genocide there is virtually no difference between Nazi ideaology and today's "Progressivism".
@gotc147 , @Supersonic_Sex_Ninja In 1933, the first victims of Nazis were liberals, leftists and social democrats. These were killed first. Nazis started killing Jews, gays, Roms and other people only 10 years later, in 1943, after the Wannsee Conference. Yes, they waited ten years! Leftists , social democrats liberals were the first ones onthe Nazi hit list, starting 1933 , in the Dachau camp (after they had executed many in the streets and at their own homes.)
A memorial in front of the Reichstag building in Berlin that honors the 96 members of the German parliament who fell victim to national socialist persecution. Nearly all of the victims are liberals , socialists and communists.
Who the victims are doesn't much matter, all that matters is that there WERE victims.
I'm well aware of Hitler killing his political opponents very early on, the possibility that some of them were socialists is meaningless, they opposed Hitler for one reason or another.
This is no different than Bernie Sanders supporters being against Hillary Clinton, she's not extreme enough for them. Her policy ideas are leftward, but not leftward *enough* for Sanders supporters. Just like these socialists who were killed by Hitler were not socialist *enough*.
For someone to be like Hitler, they do not need to hate homosexuals, Jews and everybody else Hitler hated, they simply need to hate a group or groups of people to the level he did as well as support most of the policies he did (big government, minimal personal freedom, etc).
@jacquesvol When talking about politics and Tyranny bringing up the Nazi's if perfectly valid, you can mention Godwin's Law all you want and it still won't make you right or them wrong.
@jacquesvol apparently you, since I've said I hate you (with good reason) and yet you keep listening to me, at least until I trap you in your illogical ramblings.
I do not expect a response from you after this one, you always run away when you get trapped.
@gotc147 Im not a troll and I'm indifferent enough , not to care about the way you feel about me. Why you hate me? Because you're a rightist and I'm not. Haters will hate. No, I don't hate rightists, I just contradict them when I feel it's necessary. Thus no, I don't hate you, I don't return your hate. (Despite not being a Christian)
I don't hate you because you disagree with me or don't share my politics, I hate you because for not being a troll, you certainly act like one. You never actually contradict me, you just think you do, but litterally every single time we get into a debate and I corner you in your logic you simply stop responding. That would not be an issue if you didn't keep popping up somewhere else later like you were triumphant. It's like playing chess with a pigeon, no matter how good I am at chess the pigeon (you) will just knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like it's victorious.
Not sure what you not being a Christian has to do with anything, I'm not a Christian either.
@gotc147 It's rather simple: at a certain moment I just get bored and I go to another question. You never married me thus I can leave when I want without having to pay alimony :D
@jacquesvol I would believe you if what I said was not true EVERY SINGLE TIME, but it is.
Remember that time you claimed to know more about guns than me? Strange that you were so vehemently against sharing even a drop of your alleged knowledge even though I badger ed you for a week about it.
I thought the previous generation was all too happy to share what they know with the kids.
@gotc147 You're such a bore! I've been toting different guns in my line of duty for 2 years, I shot all kinds of guns, from.22 to 155mm, I had a subscription on Guns&Ammo too. And you continue to shout I don't know anything about it.
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No, hate and lies. That's all there's to it. But trumpos like that.
@jacquesvol it is my opinion. But you liberals love to take someone's freedom of speech away... When you don't agree with it.
@Supersonic_Sex_Ninja
Nobody takes your freedom of speech away. Stop playing the poor underdog.
@jacquesvol you are the one who came at me. I never said a thing to you jerk.
@jacquesvol I did'nt say anybody was trying to take away my freedom of speech, Pay attention to who and what you are responding to.
Also I never ask for your opinion on anything.
@Supersonic_Sex_Ninja Sorry, I attributed that remark to the wrong person.
@Rissyanne you were the one playing the underdog, saying your freedom of speech is taken away. That makes you the jerk.
@jacquesvol I never said my freedom of speech was taken away.
@Supersonic_Sex_Ninja
Of course, it doesn't change by VERY negative opinion about this take.
@jacquesvol I don't give a crap about your opinion. You are directing your bullshit to me and I didn't ask you for your opinion.
the most stupid take I ever read here
People compare anyone they dislike to Hitler lol
That is true, sometimes however the comparison is an apt one.
Godwin's Law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
@jacquesvol Citing Godwin's law to discredit a discussion about politics is a retarded non argument intended to shut down discussion with ridicule instead of forming a coherent argument. Bringing up tyranny, including Nazi's, can be very appropriate to political discussion, as it is in this case. It's not like people are debating PS4 vs. Xbox and some dip shit is making a Nazi argument... Learn to "Godwin's Law" properly please.
Good questions to ask might be,
Why are millions willing to vote for a crazy fuck like Trump?
Why are so many Bernie supporters violent?
@Jager66 Using a Hitler/nazi parallel to discredit an opponent in politics is a retarded non argument intended to shut up opposition by comparing them to the WORST criminals instead of forming a coherent argument. Bringing up tyranny, including Nazi's, can be very efficient to do that.
That's what the trumpo who wrote this take and the trumpos cheering it do.
@jacquesvol Yes, but that's not what was happening here, what happened here is that someone made an argument comparing Nazi's to the radical left and then a debate followed.
"That's what the trumpo who wrote this take and the trumpos cheering it do."
This is also how you have tried to use Godwin's Law, so perhaps you have more in common with the "trumpos" then you think.
@Jager66 Should make a law for assholes who can't stop bringing up Trump.
I only brought it up because he brought it up, it was a quote from his own statements used to debunk his position.
I don't care if someone supports Trump or not.
What are you even talking about
You nailed it
Thanks.
Sorry, you are just an ignorant fella...
Why are you sorry? You or your opinion doesn't mean shit to me.
Coz, you have shitty opinions on something which you have no freaking clue about.
I'm sorry for you because, you might pick up a firearm and go on a rampage after reading this.
Not hardly, Cuck.
If I had known that you are a troll user with a troll profile , I wouldn't have even considered giving you a sound rebuke. It was only after I saw a fellow friend commenting on here that I took a stand.
Perhaps., no point blaming the liberals now.
It must time to get back to your hourly rate job I suppose.
Good luck
No trolling, And you haven't come close to a sound response.
Well, prepare to get arrested and jailed for a terroristic threat @Maazin
Oh my god the yummy tears. Mmmmmgimmegimmegimme!
Bunch of bs Drumpf is like hitler
How?
I'd say you got it right.
So you're saying that 9GAG will be happy.
Godwins Law
You could draw the comparison with other fascist leaders to the same affect.
Citing Godwins law is a non argument. In this case, comparing a modern tyrannical socialist movement to the Nazi's is an apt comparison and dismissing it because "Godwins Law" is ignorant.
Godwin's law only states that the longer a political debate goes on the more likely it becomes that a comparison to Hitler will be made. It is NOT A case of "you said nazi/Hitler, you lose".
Come up with some substance or admit defeat.
@gotc147 the idea of Godwin's law is that when someone is lacking good arguments in a discussion he'll begin to compare the other with Hitler and Nazis. Take owner started with that, thus admitting his lack of better argumentation from start.
@Jager66
@jacquesvol Except it IS a good argument, as I said in my last comment to you, if you overlook the genocide there is virtually no difference between Nazi ideaology and today's "Progressivism".
@gotc147 That's completely against truth. Anyone who studied 20th century history and /or politics knows that this take is completely wrong.
@gotc147 , @Supersonic_Sex_Ninja In 1933, the first victims of Nazis were liberals, leftists and social democrats. These were killed first.
Nazis started killing Jews, gays, Roms and other people only 10 years later, in 1943, after the Wannsee Conference. Yes, they waited ten years! Leftists , social democrats liberals were the first ones onthe Nazi hit list, starting 1933 , in the Dachau camp (after they had executed many in the streets and at their own homes.)
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A memorial in front of the Reichstag building in Berlin that honors the 96 members of the German parliament who fell victim to national socialist persecution. Nearly all of the victims are liberals , socialists and communists.
That shows you who the enemies of the nazis were.
@jacquesvol Common mistake.
Who the victims are doesn't much matter, all that matters is that there WERE victims.
I'm well aware of Hitler killing his political opponents very early on, the possibility that some of them were socialists is meaningless, they opposed Hitler for one reason or another.
This is no different than Bernie Sanders supporters being against Hillary Clinton, she's not extreme enough for them. Her policy ideas are leftward, but not leftward *enough* for Sanders supporters. Just like these socialists who were killed by Hitler were not socialist *enough*.
For someone to be like Hitler, they do not need to hate homosexuals, Jews and everybody else Hitler hated, they simply need to hate a group or groups of people to the level he did as well as support most of the policies he did (big government, minimal personal freedom, etc).
@gotc147 For someone to be considered like Hitler here, they do just need to be hated by you and by @Supersonic_Sex_Ninja
@jacquesvol Hardly, I hate you but I don't think you're like Hitler, just woefully misinformed and dead-set in your refusal to listen.
@jacquesvol When talking about politics and Tyranny bringing up the Nazi's if perfectly valid, you can mention Godwin's Law all you want and it still won't make you right or them wrong.
@gotc147 who listend to haters?
@jacquesvol apparently you, since I've said I hate you (with good reason) and yet you keep listening to me, at least until I trap you in your illogical ramblings.
I do not expect a response from you after this one, you always run away when you get trapped.
@gotc147 Indeed, your hate doesn't merit attention.
@jacquesvol yet here you are, giving it attention.
@gotc147 :-p
@jacquesvol I'm so curious, are you just a troll or are you just not smart enough to think to ask me why I feel the way I do about you?
@gotc147 Im not a troll and I'm indifferent enough , not to care about the way you feel about me. Why you hate me? Because you're a rightist and I'm not.
Haters will hate.
No, I don't hate rightists, I just contradict them when I feel it's necessary.
Thus no, I don't hate you, I don't return your hate. (Despite not being a Christian)
@jacquesvol Typical uninformed answer.
I don't hate you because you disagree with me or don't share my politics, I hate you because for not being a troll, you certainly act like one. You never actually contradict me, you just think you do, but litterally every single time we get into a debate and I corner you in your logic you simply stop responding. That would not be an issue if you didn't keep popping up somewhere else later like you were triumphant. It's like playing chess with a pigeon, no matter how good I am at chess the pigeon (you) will just knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like it's victorious.
Not sure what you not being a Christian has to do with anything, I'm not a Christian either.
@gotc147 It's rather simple: at a certain moment I just get bored and I go to another question.
You never married me thus I can leave when I want without having to pay alimony :D
@jacquesvol funny how that certain point always seems to be when I say something that shoots down your entire argument.
@gotc147 Nope: you just become boring and consider that a 'victory'.
Whatever floats your boat. :D
@jacquesvol I would believe you if what I said was not true EVERY SINGLE TIME, but it is.
Remember that time you claimed to know more about guns than me? Strange that you were so vehemently against sharing even a drop of your alleged knowledge even though I badger ed you for a week about it.
I thought the previous generation was all too happy to share what they know with the kids.
@gotc147 You're such a bore!
I've been toting different guns in my line of duty for 2 years, I shot all kinds of guns, from.22 to 155mm, I had a subscription on Guns&Ammo too. And you continue to shout I don't know anything about it.
@jacquesvol well you have yet to prove any of your knowledge so what do you expect?
It's like saying you're an expert in rocket science without talking about rockets.
@gotc147 I gave you credentials. (I left the army with A HD and the rank of lieutenant)
I'm getting bored again.
@jacquesvol I'd prefer a man-to-man conversation on the topic.
If you're as knowledgeable as you claim, this should not be an issue for you.
nothing wrong with nazis.
Pope Ratzinger was a nazi.
UN secretary general Saldheim was a nazi too.
Edit Waldheim
Trump=Hitler
How?