Openly Gay Journalist Actually in Favor of Trump

[Anonymous]

One of my friends posted this on Facebook today and my jaw just about dropped. This is a homosexual journalist who actually AGREES with Donald Trump. This is the last guy in the world I would expect to hear this from.

Although I'm not crazy about Trump myself, I can UNDERSTAND where he is coming from and why he is so popular. Yes he is outrageous, bombastic and arrogant. He also brings out the ugly extremes in people. However I think he is exposing a very, very serious growing problem in the Western World: MARXISM. When you start silencing, censoring, bullying, berating other people who have dissenting viewpoints you are actually accomplishing the exact OPPOSITE of what your goals are. You just piss people off. Free speech is free speech. Some of it might be hateful or horribly bigoted. However whoever judges what is hate speech and what is not is just another person. They have their own paradigms, influences, experiences, biases, etc. They are not God.

Those who are convinced against their will are of the SAME OPINION still.

Although Trump is not my favorite candidate I believe he is a necessary evil to prevent something much worse from happening in the USA (bloody revolution). He bringing open dialogue out in the open for those who been muzzled for the last two decades. If a openly gay journalist can agree on this, why can't other people? @Trump2016

[Kiwedin]

He makes sense. I agree that the whole social justice scene has gone a little too far. I mean, it's taken me a while to notice it, but it's heading to the point where people want to start censoring the opinions of others. It reminds of a quote that goes something like "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." It describes fully how I feel about Donald Trump. I don't agree with his opinions or even like him for that matter, and yes, he is extremely different from the politicians we're used to, but that isn't a reason to vote for him. I've met people who said they're only voting for Donald Trump because he acts like he doesn't give a fuck, which is completely ridiculous to me.

[myTake Owner]

Their is a multiple of reasons why I don't want to vote for Trump... but I don't want an extension of the Obama administration (which is exactly what HRC plans to do). This country needs balance. If you haven't figured it out already I'm a conservative. However in 2008 I wasn't upset that Obama got elected (2012 different story). I wanted to give him a chance although I didn't like his policies. His first term wasn't that bad but his second has been a PC WARPATH.

Again I know their are more serious issues than PCism (ISIS, economy, China, world trade, etc). However this spreading Marxism is very dangerous for our country.

[myTake Owner]

Also THANK YOU for providing a thoughtful response. Most of the younger 20ish ladies (and some stupid guys) on here just blurt out "Trump is POS" with zero brain activity or substance at all. You however took some effort to think this through.

[Kiwedin]

No problem. Of course, I am Canadian so I'm not super up-to-date on American politics, but I have seen a few debates and interviews. Donald's just not my type of guy.

[jacquesvol]

@Kiwedin
" the whole social justice scene has gone a little too far." REALLY? Do you even know the numbers?
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Twenty percent or more of the child population in 38 states and D. C. lived in food-insecure households in 2013, according to the most recent data available.
www.feedingamerica.org/.../...nger-fact-sheet.html
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In 2014, 46.7 million people in the United States lived in poverty. The nation's official poverty rate was 14.8% in 2014. Neither the number of people in poverty nor the poverty rate were statistically different from the 2013 estimates.
poverty.ucdavis.edu/faq/how-many-people-are-poor

[Kiwedin]

@jacquesvol Whoa, you completely misunderstood me. I never said that we shouldn't pay attention to social justice issues, they're very important. Nothing in this post even referred to poverty, we were talking about censorship and oversensitivity.

[jacquesvol]

@Kiwedin
Social justice goes about justice and poverty in society, about the possibility to live under humane conditions.
If you want to attach another meaning to it that's *your* problem. Not mine.

[Jager66]

Yep, being a "classic" Liberal now likely means you have more in common with a substantial portion of conservatives than you do other Liberals. It's like the twilight zone where up is down and right is left.

[madhatters4]

there are also hispanic and Mexican people who support Trump. Not surprising, there have been civil rights activists who supported segregation. There are Muslim extremists who don't support terrorism

being a certain [fill in the demographic] doesn't always necessarily mean you are going to side with groups often seen as representative of their voice

[jacquesvol]

Dumb gay people do exist too.
Donald Trump: Opposes Nationwide Marriage Equality
Donald Trump has been a consistent opponent of marriage equality. While he once said he supported protecting gays and lesbians from discrimination in the workplace by adding sexual orientation to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, more recently he expressed support for the so-called First Amendment Defense Act (FADA) which would expose LGBT people to more discrimination.
www.hrc.org/2016RepublicanFacts/donald-trump
#CERTAINLY_NOT_Trump
www.huffingtonpost.com/.../donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83
www.alternet.org/trumps-racism-nothing-new-4-times-he-got-away-anti-black-smears

[myTake Owner]

and you are using sources from hrc. org and Huffpo. The huffington post leaves an editors note after almost every Trump article that says:

Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U. S.

Are you f*cking kidding me? Seriously are you f*cking kidding me? In the history of American journalism I have never seen something so ass backward, blatantly biased, disgusting as an editor's note like that. Why don't leave a note about Hillary that says "Just a warning Hillary is known liar, criminal, hyprocite who helped cover up her husbands rape crime back in the 70s.." That took Huffpo from a somewhat reputable news source to full libtard fringe reporting that you would expect to see from 7th grade journalism students who just hit puberty.

This is why I like Trump. He is calling this out.

[jacquesvol]

That editor's note about Trump happens to be the proven truth. And I regret he said those things. Should they be censored?

[myTake Owner]

yes yes it's okay to leave "editors notes" about "facts" about Trump. However Hillary's CRIME of having a private email SERVER that compromised national security is no biggie. She's a democratic woman and in the almighty name of political correctness she gets a pass, even though she has been proven to be GROSSLY NEGLIGENT while serving in public office.

[jacquesvol]

That mail thing is a non event: no damage was done.
Hillary Clinton's emailgate is a fake scandal: www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-emailgate-312784
The Real Scandal Behind Hillary Clinton's Email : www.slate.com/.../...records_its_incompetence.html

www.vox.com/.../vox-sentences-nadiya-suvchenko

[myTake Owner]

And you give me a slate article... another ultra liberal news sources. How would you like it if I sent you a bunch of fox news/breitbart articles? I don't believe that any harm was done with the email article (yet). However is still doesn't change the fact is was gross negligence and Hillary STILL won't own up to it. That is extremely incompetent behavior for someone holding public office.

I wouldn't mind a having a woman in office, but NOT Hillary.

[jacquesvol]

Actually Tronald said all those things.

[myTake Owner]

has she taken responsibility for her incompetence when it came to the email servers? She gave a half ass apology a few months ago but when questioned she keeps saying "what does it matter" and "who cares". Sorry Mrs. Clinton... it matters a lot. Quit trying to bury it.

[SüßeJäger]

I like the part about stopping Marxism. Marxism destroys everyone involved. It uses groups to get it power then turns on everyone. It's evil and must be stopped. And yes, trying to shame others that have different opinions than another group is evil and will have the opposite effect that they want. Thank God it's getting worn out, calling people bigots or 'phobes' is dying cuz you can only call people names so much before you lose all credibly. Especially when the ones calling the names are the ones that are the true bigots and phobes.

[myTake Owner]

you and I had a good conversation about this on a separate post. Unfortunately Trump is not a Christian (HRC is any better). However he giving us the backbone to say "Merry Christmas" again. He really is the lesser of two evils.

[SüßeJäger]

I just had to watch that again, it's great. I follow breitbart and drudge for a lot of my news. Tell them how it is Milo! Thank you for being knowledgeable, honest and fair minded.

[SüßeJäger]

I agree with that. Trump was actually my 3rd choice but I do like the fact that he understands the PC bull is dangerous at best and evil at worst and must be stopped. I've always known the left hates free speech but it's becoming apparent to the average Joe now. They have over played their hand by a long shot and it's going to bite them in the ass and I'd like a front row seat when it does. I'm a libertarian and I have very left and very right wing views but the "progressives" are not just liberal anymore. They want to destroy anyone who has a different opinion or view than they do. It's becoming Nazism or Stalin's commie Russia. If it is allowed to come to fruition, people will be getting executed by the state for dissension. It's that bad. I've never seen so many people on here for example being called things equivalent to racial slurs cuz they disagree with the gay agenda for example. There was one just now equivalent to the other side saying f... t. It's bad.

[myTake Owner]

obama helped create the perfect storm for this.

[SüßeJäger]

I agree he did but yes more of a symptom of the problem. One thing about it, as long as one of these idiots like him or the Hildebeast is president, they will have a lot of opposition from congress and the states. It pretty much guarantees all those will be republican controlled. There's only been one time when the republican held this many seats in the house of representatives and even then it was only one more back in the '20s. Then state legislatures have never been controlled this way. There's 98 state legislative bodies, 68 of them are republican controlled. Plus, there's been more good state laws passed under Obama than any other recent president. Especially with gun rights cuz people are afraid. One thing too, Obama is responsible for more gun sales than anyone. Every time he flaps his lips about gun control, gun shops like mine get swamped for the next 2 weeks. Gun sales increase 4-5 times. There's been records set. In Dec 2008, there was 20 million gun transfers.

[SüßeJäger]

Each transfer isn't necessarily one gun. Quite often, there's more than one gun per transfer. Plus that doesn't include transfers that are done when the buyer has a waiver for a background check like a concealed weapons permit. It was closer to actually 40 million gun transfers in Dec 2008, the month after Obama was elected. Interesting facts.

[FakeName123]

What many people - especially leftists - don't get is that opposition is necessary. Its the foundation of our democracy (or whats left of it). No matter how extreme the opposition is, its still valid as long as it doesn't call out to become violent.

The next point is that extreme views only create extreme opposition. The left has fully controlled the narrative for the last decade and more. Naturally the right would also becmoe more extreme as a result. In physics thats called actio-reactio.

Trump is supported not because he is an arrogant douche and whatnot, but despite. He speaks things out that others don't even dare to talk about. And he is not a politician. He comes from the outside of that sphere. He isn't pre-bribed with sponsoring his campaign.

And the only argument I hear from the left against him is that he is hateful. This is an display of pathetic argumentation that has no arguments to begin with.

[myTake Owner]

EXACTLY!

[AleDeEurope]

Milo's amazing. He's like Trump but as a journalists. He says what the "special" group of people (PC, feminists, SJW...) don't want to hear, that's why he has so many haters and why all his talks have people trying to shut it down, which actually just proves every point he makes.
They're afraid of him cause he's telling you the truth with facts, something that really hurts the "special" group.

I'm glad we have a dude like Milo, who doesn't shut up and who is killing these stupid crying babies.
I'm not much of a Trump fan myself, though I'd rather him than Killary Clinton. The more I watch Milo's talks, the more I like Trump, and not because of what he says, but because of all the people that try to shut down Milo, if we're gonna have a president based on the choice of that kind of people, then we're doomed.

[hellionthesage]

I don't like trump and I don't think he wil be good for america but I also agree with the sentiment, people have been forced to keep their mouth shut and he is the one who has opened the lid so to speak hence his popularity. He is the exact opposite of what every other politician is, you don't have to like him, you don't have to respect him but you have to acknowledge that at least he is exactly what he presentes himself to be and is not afraid to say what he thinks which is refreshing (well would be if it wasn't coming from a blowhard like him anyway).

[Lovelinefan]

Milo has been a loud voice on the Trump Train for some time now, he's the man!
Why are you so surprised that someone who happens to be gay supports a particular presidential candidate?
Are gay people supposed to do something else?
When has Trump ever said or done anything to indicate that he's against gay's?

[John_Doesnt]

Except that's not how free speech works. People have the right to express themselves in their private lives, not in the government.

Would you be okay with it being legal to make a terrorist threat in "free speech"? Would you think it's okay to legalize violent threats against a human's life? What about people going to school and shouting the n-word in the name of free speech?

Free speech is something typically misused and misunderstood by hate mongers to justify why they should be allowed to spew their nonsense.

[myTake Owner]

It's a two way street. I consistently see liberals use racist attacks on Caucasian people (trump is an old "white" man) and feel justified about it. Automatically calling someone a "racist" or "bigot" just because they disagree with you is in itself hate speech.

[John_Doesnt]

And yet the Nazis disagree with you and you automatically call them racist and bigots.

[myTake Owner]

And of course you just HAD to bring up the phrase "nazi". Just had to. You just couldn't resist could you? Your mentally libtarded mind couldn't think of anything else.

Go ahead and keep screaming "nazi" and "hitler" at anybody who disagrees with you. It is Trumps plan after all to exterminate 10 million people (cough cough). Yeah Trump is exactly like hitler (cough cough).

People like is the reason trump is popular.

[John_Doesnt]

You missed the point of the argument and only heard what you want to. Your pathetic argument is that it's wrong to automatically call someone a bigot just because they disagree with you. We that's just a stupid argument because we disagree with a lot of people and automatically call them bigots. The KKK who support Trump are also bigots.

[Accipiter]

Honestly I'm amazed by people's reactions to Milo Yianopolous' existence as a gay conservative who supports Trump. Just because the guy loves black cock, that doesn't mean he must also love the government being involved with every facet of his life and support higher taxes. Why does society assume gay people have to be liberal?

[myTake Owner]

It is a stereotype, but most openly gay people I've met are usually very liberal. I guess the cool ones can take a joke or two (as long as they can throw it back). I bet I could sit down with Milo and throw out a few gay jokes and he would laugh. This would actually make me RESPECT him more. However the hypersensitive, ultra PC types thrive on the victim/entitlement complex.

[cipher42]

"When you start silencing, censoring, bullying, berating other people who have dissenting viewpoints"

Okay but that's literally what Trump supporters do. Like, people have been physically attacked at his rallies for protesting him. This pretty fucking clearly is not about freedom of speech. Besides which, can you actually provide specific examples of people's freedom of speech being infringed upon in the way you claim?

[myTake Owner]

Here is a video of black man's experience at a Trump rally. It's not edited, a form of proganda, produced by the mass media, etc. It's just this man's experience at a trump rally. His own viewpoint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjyxZ7HO7aY Just listen to him.

[myTake Owner]

also as for liberal censorship... I could give you PLENTY OF EXAMPLES on that one. However lets start with the latest (and very insidious) forms of liberal censorship: Facebook and (very potentially) Google. Facebook has been accused of censoring conservative articles from it's newsfeed. ONE BILLION members look at that every day. That DOES shape people's viewpoints and opinions. And Google has recently been accused of censoring autofill queries to be pro Hillary Clinton.

gizmodo.com/former-facebook-workers-we-routinely-suppressed-conser-1775461006 (original unbiased source)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFxFRqNmXKg

With all this said and all time I put into this response I got a feeling I will highly UNLIKELY change your mind. But seriously, when the "man" (mass media, social media, public education, etc) is actually blatantly LIBERAL I believe it's time for a reset.

[cipher42]

I can't watch the video right now, but regardless the experience of one person doesn't invalidate the fact that people have legitimately been attacked at Trump rallies for expressing their opinion.

As for websites giving liberal views preferential treatment, that is in no way an infringement on freedom of speech. In fact, it's within the companies' freedom of speech to manipulate their content in that way. It may be immoral or just bad business, but it sure as hell ain't a freedom of speech issue.

[Ethrealness]

Haha I knew you'd bring up Milo when I saw your title. Huge fan.

[myTake Owner]

He is so badass. First openly gay man that I TRULY respect (without having to act PC).

[Jxpxtxr]

Well, it's an open secret that intelligence stands in no correlation to a person's sexuality and it's also an open secret that trump supporters really ain't the brightest so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NzhQWcc7h4

[Jager66]

actually there is a link between gay men and higher intelligence.

[myTake Owner]

@Jxpxtxr so I guess violent trump protestors are so "smart" for throwing bottles and physically attacking people...

[Jxpxtxr]

I never said that

[Jxpxtxr]

@Jager66 is there? Sources?

[Jager66]

personal.lse.ac.uk/kanazawa/pdfs/JBS2012.pdf

[Jxpxtxr]

@Jager66 "Small statistical associations between intelligence and homosexuality that I find in my studies support the prediction of the Hypothesis. However, I emphasize that my findings have absolutely no practical importance. It is not like we can now use some- one’s intelligence to assess their homosexuality accurately. My approach to science is decidedly basic, not applied (clinical or medical). I am entirely driven by the desire to discover knowledge, not by its potential applications or implications."

Congratulations on just posting a source that A is a personal student essay so not very reliable and in no way scientifically proven and B actually contradicts your statement..

[Jxpxtxr]

"While other studies have noted a potential empirical association between intelligence and homo- sexuality, to the best of my knowledge, the Hypothesis provides the only theoretical explanation for why we may expect such an association to exist at all."
In other words it proofs nothing.

[Jager66]

oh fuck off, I'm not going to source the shit out of this, I just don't care about it because it doesn't matter, what bothers me is how dumb this comment is

"Well, it's an open secret that intelligence stands in no correlation to a person's sexuality"

you provide no source but demand them for those who disagree with you, there is plenty of evidence to suggest that we don't even fully know how to correctly answer this question anyway, so any blanket statement about the subject is probably a stupid position to hold. Yet you will criticize others for doing the exact same thing you are.

Here is another link that literally took about 5 sec. to find, the same can be said about opposing information and yes I looked to find arguments for both sides. I have no bias about this I honestly do not care about it at all! it is only even mildly interesting.

calgaryqueerhistory.ca/.../

[Jxpxtxr]

@Jager66 I don't know why you're so mad about me challenging your argument anyways?
If you can't handle a challenge maybe don't post stupid comments if you disagree with people in the first place.
Stop acting like a butthurt 5 year old.

[Jager66]

I'm not mad, I'm annoyed by your hypocrisy. Why you think that means "I can't handle being challenged" makes no sense at all, then the leap to "acting like 5 year old" is a lame add homonym, this is all starting to look like projection on your part actually.

You make a statement, provide no sources. demand sources from those who disagree with you. I provide sources and more clearly explain my position, you think this means I can't handle being challenged. Still no sources from you, no arguments either only baseless statements and personal attacks, to you this somehow means I am acting like a 5 year old.. WTF?

Stupidest conversation I've had in a long time.

[Jxpxtxr]

@Jager66
"You make a statement, provide no sources. demand sources from those who disagree with you. I provide sources and more clearly explain my position, you think this means I can't handle being challenged. Still no sources from you, no arguments either only baseless statements and personal attacks, to you this somehow means I am acting like a 5 year old.. WTF?"

Wrong, you've provided a source that was absolutely vacuous and extremely vague so basically pointless for you to use in this argument.
It's just funny how you react with a (obviously mad/butthurt) "oh fuck off, I'm not going to source the shit out of this..", because I pointed that out to you.
That's why you should always READ your sources before using them in an argument ya know and the immediate resorting to insults is a clear sign of a less developed mind/maturity - hence my comment that you act like a 5 year old ;)

[Jxpxtxr]

Now you've demanded me to explain why I came to the (rather obvious) conclusion that sexuality stands in no correlation to intelligence? Well here you go:

www.quora.com/Is-there-a-correlation-between-homosexuality-and-intelligence

Funnily enough they actually also analysed the exact article you provided to "proof your point" and the conclusion pretty much says it all:

[Jxpxtxr]

"Finally, there's our old friend neuroscience. There have been some studies on the difference in brain structures and function. A number of tests have found functional differences between men and women in how their brain functions are lateralized. In male brains, specific cognitive tasks are more likely to be delegated to one or the other of the hemispheres, while in women's brains, this happens less. Interestingly, research has found that on this particular aspect of brain function, gay men tend to have brain function more like straight women than straight men. See Neuroscience and sexual orientation on Wikipedia for details.

So, yes, slightly different brain functions. This doesn't necessarily cash out in terms of intelligence though. The fact that the brain functions very slightly differently doesn't mean there's a difference in intelligence. That said, between Milton, Proust, Wittgenstein, Alan Turing and Leonardo da Vinci, I think we more than hold our own smarts-wise."

[Jager66]

I provided more than 1 source and providing a source even if not perfect is still 100% better than providing zero sources, fail for you.

"It's just funny how you react with a (obviously mad/butthurt) "

This has been cleared up, it's frustration at your hypocrisy, please read. fail for you.

" immediate resorting to insults is a clear sign of a less developed mind/maturity - hence my comment that you act like a 5 year old "

You do realize that this is what you did right? lol

so lets recap.
You:
Still no sources.
First to insult, using ad hom's with no argument made.
Projecting.
Using straw man arguments even after I have clarified.
Ignoring all but 1 source provided.

Me:
providing sources
Calling out your hypocrisy with examples given in form of an argumet.
clarifying my position when it seems you did not understand or chose to use a straw man.

So who is acting like a 5 year old? hmm.. is this all because I used the "F" word maybe? are you sensitive to that word maybe?

[Jxpxtxr]

@Jager66 "I provided more than 1 source and providing a source even if not perfect is still 100% better than providing zero sources, fail for you."

Nope, read again & quite sadly, BIG fail for YOU.

"" immediate resorting to insults is a clear sign of a less developed mind/maturity - hence my comment that you act like a 5 year old "

You do realize that this is what you did right? lol"

So you felt insulted by me comparing your behaviour to that of a 5 year old?
Well, what can I say.. just another example of your incapability to handle criticism and, frankly, the truth.

[Jager66]

Okay so since you obviously struggling with this I will post again to help you out. This is source #1 personal. lse. ac. uk/kanazawa/pdfs/JBS2012. pdf (the one your hyper focused on)
this is source #2 calgaryqueerhistory.ca/.../ (this actually contains multiple sources)

So I have provided multiple sources and you are ignoring them, fail for you multiple times.
Still no sources from you, multiple times UBER fail or you.
It's not about me "feeling insulted" it's that what you said is objectively an insult.

"So you felt insulted by me comparing your behaviour to that of a 5 year old?
Well, what can I say.. just another example of your incapability to handle criticism and, frankly, the truth."

More straw man arguments from you because you... /le sigh round and round in circles we go

[myTake Owner]

@Jager66 @Jxpxtxr Both of you please chill out.

[Jxpxtxr]

@Jager66 Haha whats wrong with you? Can you not read?

----------->>>>>>>>>> STEP 1 : GO UP IN THE COMMENTS AND CHECK ME REPLIES BEFORE YOU GOT STARTED ON YOUR SEVERELY IGNORANT COMMENTARY OF HOW THIS IS A FAIL AND THAT IS A FAIL! STEP 2 : ACTUALLY READ <<<<<<<<<-----------

I'm having a hard time to determine whether you're actually this ignorant or your brain just fails to process the information I have provided with. Are you really 36? Because your argumentation skills are those of a 5 year old..

[Jxpxtxr]

@myTake Owner I'm sorry to spam you but this guy got so caught up on this and his argumentation skills are so incredibly bad it's seriously ridiculous..

[Anonymous]

If you ACTUALLY do your research on Trump and not just base your opinion on him from the biased news areas and ACTUAL fair news areas, he has a lot of good things actually. Don't get me wrong, I do disagree with some stuff he has but in my opinion he is a LOT LOT LOT better than another clinton in the white house

[myTake Owner]

the problem is virtually 80 to 90% of the mainstream media has liberal bias.

[Opinion Owner]

true that

[Pat8707]

"I'm just going to make this short. Feminism... Is cancer"
-Milo Yiannopolous, 2016

[front2back]

Something I've noticed: Nearly all of Trump's fans are Southern Whites. When a Latino, Black, or other Minority either shows up to a rally or speaks out in support of him Trump fans make it a YUGE deal out of it to try and broadcast how much support he's getting from those that supposedly "hate him".
In reality those minorities are a minority themselves as a vast majority of blacks, latinos, LGB, and women despise him. It's cherry picking fans.

[Lovelinefan]

But isn't that true of the republican party in general?
Were the majority of blacks, hispanics, LGBT, and women in favor of Bush? Or did the majority of his votes white males?

Also, keep in mind that Trump supporters are sometimes called the "silent majority" for a reason. For the sake of one's own SAFETY, it's not always the best idea to publicize one's support for Trump, especially if you're part of a group that the media and the liberals insist Trump is against.
A black or hispanic Trump supporter outside a Trump rally is going to receive a LOT of anger and hatred from other members of their ethnicity who are there to "protest", perhaps more so than a white guy who the "protesters" are expecting to see.

[front2back]

@Lovelinefan good point. Trump Is the climax of the Republican Party. All of the years of bringing in racist voters and policies that are unfair to minorities have lead up to him. Ironically, despite symbolizing everything about the party perfectly, the whole party tried to OUST Trump. It's like finding the fountain of youth and trying to drain it because you don't like how you looked younger and want everyone to see you different.

[Lovelinefan]

"Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery. The 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, passed in 1865 with 100% Republican support but only 23% Democrat support in congress."

"Fact: During the Civil War era, the "Radical Republicans" were given that name because they wanted to not only end slavery but also to endow the freed slaves with full citizenship, equality, and rights."

"Fact: The Ku Klux Klan was originally and primarily an arm of the Southern Democratic Party. Its mission was to terrorize freed slaves and "ni**er-loving" (their words) Republicans who sympathized with them."

An interesting read: https://russp.us/racism.htm

[front2back]

@Lovelinefan everyone knows that. The parties have flipped ideologies and sides. Nixon took all of the old democrats and converted them into republicans.

[QuestionMan]

I can't see the image or video you posted at the top.
I'm assuming you're referring to Milo Yiannopoulos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fely6gd2Q-k

The thing about Milo is he cares only about personality and not about actual policy. He's a satirical journalist at best who shouldn't be taken too seriously.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

Same thing i was gonna guess, he's the only one.

[myTake Owner]

I <3 this guy! He must be the first openly gay man that I TRULY respect.

[QuestionMan]

He's overrated the bs that comes out of his mouth is overwhelming.
I read an article by him in which he wrote that gays should marry women because they have super sperm and will create better babies.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

The reason why he is taken seriously though is because he represents a small fraction of gay culture in the republican community as vile. He defends young males, which is the only political journalist to do so and he desecrates the belief that the public holds about all republicans being straight. But then he says stupid crazy shit and everyone backs away from crazy. He's satirical but thats all he ever will be unless he re-aligns his values.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

My biggest problem with Trump, and there's a laundry list for me, is that he has said very little about policy, and what he has talked about is utterly ridiculous.
For instance, Immigration: somehow he will get Mexico to build a wall. Like, what?
I want to hear what he actually intends on doing. Give me a plan, a process. Until then, everything he says is as empty and fake as Trump University.

[Lovelinefan]

Why do you say Trump University was empty and fake? Because that's what the talking heads on cable news are saying?
Real estate investing courses like Trump University have been around for ages, "guru"s selling everything from how-to books to hundred dollar evening seminars to thousand dollar weekend "boot camps" to tens of thousand of dollars coaching programs.
Statistically speaking, most people who buy these programs never do anything with the information. It's hard work and can take years to start making real money in the business, BUT, if you do what these courses say to do AND make adjustments based on your own market and situation, the strategies and techniques taught DO work and have allowed a LOT of people to quit their jobs and earn 6 and 7 figure incomes with relatively low financial investments and in a fairly short period of time.
But some people are dumb enough to think just buying a course will instantly make them rich, and thats their own stupidity, not Trump.

[Lovelinefan]

As far as detailed policies, I don't think Trump needs to have detailed policies at this point in time. He's not president YET, so for a lot of topics he doesn't have ALL of the relevant information.
What we're voting for is someone who we can trust to make the right decisions based on having all of the information available, and the conditions at the time when the decision is to be made. We know the direction Trump wants to go, and he's got a record of making mostly good decisions for the past 40+ years. He knows how to work with people, he knows how to negotiate good deals, he's seen what can happen when things go unexpectedly in a bad direction and he knows how to recover.
Most importantly he's not in this for the money like the Clintons, and he has the best interests of America and it's citizens in mind, not some globalist agenda where he's willing to screw the American people over for his own personal gain. And getting Mexico to pay for the wall will be easy.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

@Lovelinefan
I admire your passion, but a few things: I have no problem with "guru" seminars and the like, but people paid Trump college level money for real expert training, and instead, they got "professors" whose only prior business experience was minimal, like one individual who only worked as a Donatos kitchen manager. That is the definition of bait and switch.
You can claim talking heads and cable news, but that he bribed a US official with $65,000 to get rid of the Trump University lawsuit is a fact he has not even denied yet.
His recover system is to have the American government fix his problems (see the FOUR bankruptcies where he relied on the American government to pay to keep his casinos up and running). He builds companies with lots of short term success, but the infrastructure of those companies eventually crumble. He just knows when to leave. If that's how he's going to run this country, it will be in tatters come 2020, but he'll be rich as can be.

[Lovelinefan]

There are a LOT of Real Estate Investing courses that cost $20-50k, and many successful people in the business gladly spend thousands, if not tens of thousands of dollars annually on education.
I'm personally not a big fan of seminars or coaching programs where someone without years of experience in the business are teaching, BUT it's not uncommon, and honestly it's the systems that they are teaching that are the main thing. If the systems and strategies are proven, and someone is able to teach the strategies and systems effectively, and work with the students to help them take the steps necessary, I don't see that as a scam. I've been through one of those programs and worked with a coach who didn't have real estate experience until being hired as a coach for a successful investor, and if there were questions that came up above his ability to handle, then we would go to the guy who was running the R. E. biz full time, not just coaching people. No big deal, and it's common practice

[Lovelinefan]

Think about it... How many college professors are there who are teaching about business, marketing, or whatever else, and they have never started or owned a business?

Just because someone is a successful businessman doesn't mean they'll be a good teacher. And just because someone doesn't have the 1st hand experience, doesn't mean they can't be a great teacher or coach. They're two different things entirely. Yes, experience is awesome, and given the choice I'd pick a teacher WITH the experience. But just like I spent about $6k for a 6 month coaching program with a coach who was NOT an active investor and got a lot out of the experience, I've also paid $10k+ to a very successful investor who was a mediocre teacher at best, though I still got my moneys worth by getting connections and seeing how he was running his business.

And where do you get the idea that Trump tried to bribe anyone to keep the Trump U case quiet? Please link me...

[Nice_Guy_Last]

@Lovelinefan www.npr.org/.../texas-governor-linked-to-trump-university-fraud-case
Also, those professors who have never had business experience have 4 years of undergraduate studies and 2-6 years of post graduate studies.

[Lovelinefan]

Interesting. Thanks for the link.
Was there some kind of agreement made? Maybe... But as the interviewer said, "You can't demonstrate a quid pro quo here that either in the Texas or the Florida case."
The timing of the Florida accusation could be suspicious, but keep in mind that Trump is a part time resident and owns several properties in the state. The Attorney General who allegedly received the money and refused to proceed with the class action has also been a Trump supporter, and Trump himself has been very open with the fact that he has always made political contributions to politicians in BOTH parties because as a businessman, it's good to have people in government on your side.

I also understand that 10 years of schooling is a lot more than these R. E. coaches probably had, but they were also teaching a very specific program... How to find real estate opportunities, how to structure those deals, how to analyze properties, is not exactly rocket science.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

@Lovelinefan But, when you promise expert opinion, one would expect a captain of the industry, or ar least a person with a graduate degree. This is the problem with Trump's many brands: he sells the products, like Trump Ties, for high-end prices, when in fact, they are usually medium to low grade product. He may be a good salesman, but that's because he's an unethical person. He is a reality TV star, and he doesn't care about doing the right thing, because the right thing is rarely the profitable thing in his line of business. He will do the thing that gets him the most attention, not the thing that helps the country or the American people.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

@Lovelinefan Before you mistake me, I am not a Hillary supporter. I just think that Trump is a bad choice too. I just hope that America realizes that there are more than two parties.

[JCT666]

Haha, I know it would be Milo Yiannopoulos before I clicked on this Take!

In all seriousness, sexual orientation doesn't determine who someone should vote for. I'm not a Trump fan myself either, but political correct crazies have gone too far in society. There's absolutely no denying that.

[Phoenix98]

His name is Milo Yiannopoulos by the way a conservative gay journalist and a educated man who has on more then one occasion systematically destroyed liberal arguments. Quite funny to watch actually.

[Anonymous]

I almost would have voted for trump because he said he would make America great again but then I herd he wants to give nuclear weapons to Japan and he mocked a disabled reporter and I read a article that Gorge cluney said that trump would be dangerous

[myTake Owner]

George clooney is stereotypical, liberal hollywood assclown. Don't take his side on anything. He supports the environmental causes but flies around on a private jet.

[Thesis_Something]

dude is such a slacker

[myTake Owner]

Slacker no, liberal hypocrite yes. I can't believe how impressionable and stupid the masses are to follow the political opinions of actors, musicians, celebrities, athletes, etc. If you need someone like that to influence your voting decisions then YOU are part of the big problem in America. These people are very good at what they do, but make no mistake they are not any smarter (often dumber) than anyone else when it comes to politics.

[Jager66]

" I read a article that Gorge cluney said that trump would be dangerous"

I can't tell if this is a joke or not, either way though it was funny.

[Opinion Owner]

@Jager66 I wasn't joking

[Jager66]

ok thanks, I'll admit I'm a little surprised anyone takes George Cluney that seriously when it comes to politics.

[Anonymous]

choose Ben Carson as VP. political correctness is for cowards afraid to hear the truth.

[myTake Owner]

I loved Ben Carson. Problem is that the guy wasn't fast enough on his feet and he was horrible with foreign policy. I hope he stays in politics

[Opinion Owner]

Its what we need in office. Somebody with morals that is not a "career politician". And obama's foreign policy is a disaster.

[myTake Owner]

Hey needs to be the top advisor. Trump is a hammer (very dumb sometimes) but we need someone like Carson who can be the thinker/brains.