You Can Be An Animal Lover & Still Eat Meat: To You Vegans & Vegetarians!

[SweetHomicidalQueen]

Inspired by @RainbowFanGirl 's question and mytakes, mytake here and her question here, I want to say this: You can still be a carnivore and an animal lover! It isn't hypocritical at all in my opinion because there IS a difference.

I would like to point out what some people said in her question, just as a reference and for those who're too lazy to click the link.

I love my pets, not all animals.

I love animals. They're great. Some of em I love because they're tasty. Some, because they're cuddly. Some because they're useful, or scary.

1. Cheese is not made by killing cows, it's extracted via milk and turned into cheese.
2. I love animals. I love meat. I have pet birds. I eat birds (chicken.) I have mammals as pets. I eat mammals. Why? Because this is part of nature, some things are eaten and some things eat.

i love dogs dogs eat meat i eat meat we both eat meat does that mean we are hypocritical asshats? no vegans and animal activists need to learn food chains and how meat is actually good for us and how its respectful to only kill and animal to eat it. I have said in a previous question someone asked that Killing a wild animal is only wrong if you don't eat it.

no, not at all
loving animals doesn't mean that you love ALL animals.

in the same way as when you say...
that you love doing sports you don't love every sports in the world
that you love your family that you don't necessarily like every single family member
that you like vegetables that you like every vegetable
etc.

Those are just a few. As I pointed out on that question, there's a difference between eating an animal such as for health and survival, rather than loving animals you find in nature (such as a deer or cardinal), or loving your pets (such as a cat or dog).

I am completely for vegans and vegetarians, I don't care what you put in your mouth as long as you don't care what I put in mine!

I mean no I wouldn't eat that baby, that's a human, not only is it illegal but it's cannibalism and morally wrong.

I eat cows and pigs and chickens, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna kill and eat a stray dog or bunny.

I love all animals, but I'd rather eat a cow than have a pet cow. I'd rather ride a horse than eat one.

I also believe animals have emotions and they can be very intelligent, but that's not gonna stop me from eating them. Why? Not only do they taste good but they provide me with the nutrients and shit I need to not only stay healthy, but to keep me from becoming a pretentious shit!

Hey, I respect you eat what you eat. If you're a vegan and I invite you to a cookout, I'll make you some tofu stuff. But if you start preaching about how I'm a murderer...you're fucking gone.

It isn't hypocritical for animals to be friends with other animals and to eat other animals, such as a dog befriending a cat and then that dog kills and eats a bunny. So why would it be hypocritical of a human to have a cat pet then eat a cow?

Sidenote: I'm not gonna mercilessly murder a cow at random- I never want an animal to be killed for any reason. Fun Fact: The "Law" of nature is to only kill to keep from starving to protect yourself/your offspring. I'm not killing any animal for sport, and neither are the people who kill these cows and pigs for food.

#SeeMyWork

[RainbowFanGirl]

Thanks for your response to my question!

Now, my take on this is yes. You still can eat meat and be an animal lover. For example a friend of mine is studying to be a veterinarian. She LOVES animals. She tried to go vegan, but she became anemic on the diet and almost died as a result. She was in the hospital for weeks. She was low on iron and B 12, so she eats meat occasionally now.

She volunteers at a zoo, an animal shelter, she has 2 dogs, a cat, and 2 chinchillas. She knows everything about animals. She cried when she saw a dead raccoon on the side of the road. She would die for any animal. For people to say that she doesn't love them is wrong. She loves animals more than herself.

Animals are treated horribly in the meat and food industry. They are kept in right confinements and then they die horrible deaths by throat slitting, neck-breaking, being put into meat grinders, etc. It is horrible how these animals are treated, and that is the root on the animal rights movement. At least people who hunt common animals give them relatively quick, painless deaths. People don't know where the food comes from. Maybe if these animals were treated better before death then it wouldn't be such a huge problem. I can see why vegans go vegan. I don't care either.

Now, I haven't eaten a sliver of meat in two days. Hopefully I can become vegetarian, then vegan in time. I just think the lifestyle fits my morals, and I am starting to hate the texture of meat.

Anyways that is just my opinion. I support veganism and I don't really care what other people eat.

[OlderAndWiser]

Thanks for posting this response.

[shinyunicorn]

as a vegan and animal rights activist, the only thing that bothers me is the WAY animals are killed today. mass breeding in unhealthy conditions, zero care for the animals, and the fact people call going to the supermarket "natural". the only natural way to do this is hunt the food yourself, and 99% of the eat meaters I know don't do that.

but humans are omnivores, we need meat. I don't care if you eat meat, I just hate the way we get our meat, it's inhumane and unnatural.

[SweetHomicidalQueen]

I understand how you feel, and personally I agree with you. but I don't have the means to hunting our own meat- no guns, no animals nearby either.

[shinyunicorn]

my uncle owns an organic farm, and I admit I eat meat like once a month only if it's meat that comes from his farm, because I know he treats the animals with care and the meat is natural and healthy. so I don't expect everyone to grab a gun and go outside and look for some deer, just maybe support organic farms like that instead of mass factories...

[SweetHomicidalQueen]

thats what i would prefer

[Shigeno]

No, we don't need meat. I don't and I'm still alive and healthy. Besides humans aren't omnivores, human digestive system and denture resemble that of a frugivore. A vegan should know such basic things...

[Takada]

Humans don't need meat. You should know this. Every nutrient that can be found in meat can be found in plant foods. The only thing meat has that plant foods don't is B12. And that doesn't even come from animals. B12 is produced by bacteria in soil and dirty water. That's where animals get their B12 from. Since we drink clean water, and don't roll around in soil anymore, we can get our B12 from supplements.

Killing animals for one single nutrient is crazy.

[shinyunicorn]

@Takada @Shigeno obviously we don't need meat to survive, I've been vegan basically my entire life and I'm okay. but you can't deny the fact eating meat has enefited the human race (even though I can't imagine the human race to evolve into anything else other than what we acheived now), but, times also have to change. it benefited us thousands of years ago, now what?
humans aren't completely omnivores, because of obvious facts like eating raw meat is bad for us, but animals like fish for example are good for our diet. not necessary, but good, and we can also eat them raw. so maybe it'd be more accurate to say we're more like piscivores, but it's still eating meat.

also I've made a few takes on veganism and how humans aren't omnivores in the past, and everyone lashed out at me.
now I decided to maybe view things differently and count the possiblity that humans are omnivores, and people lash out at me.
you can't satisfy people on this website hmm

[EnglishArtsteacher]

Finally, someone pointed out that humans eating animals is part of the FOOD CHAIN. It happens in nature, and humans are no exception.

Also, protein is a very important nutrient, and the easiest way to get this nutrient is by eating meat. I lost 70 pounds in six months by a high protein, and low carbohydrate diet, in which my DIETITIAN recommended me to eat meat.

If someone wants to be a vegan, that's great! But they shouldn't go around bashing other people who eat meat and calling them "animal haters", especially since many doctors RECOMMEND eating meat.

[lazermazer]

Human evolve, earlier there were no such thing as irrigation, food grains, breads. Meat, fish and fruit were the only things to eat, but not now. Nowadays men have more than sufficient food without hunting.
For the Doctor part, yes Meat is good source for proteins but so does the pulses. Anyhow, doctor doesn't "RECOMMEND" eating meat for normal healthy person just like he doesn't give medicines to healthy person. They know whats right at that particular moment, you may needed high protein diet and its not anything bad.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

@lazermazer I know there are many ways to get protein in your system, but like I said, the EASIEST way is by eating meat.

[TheGreatValerie]

I'm not vegan or vegetarian but your points were mediocre. People can choose to eat and not eat whatever they want. To say "im ojay with you eating tofu but dont judge me" and then turn around and say "eat meat." Is more hypocritical than your entire abovementioned argument. Your probably thinking of people who are radically against eating meat to the point of imposing their beliefs on others (just like you deem to be doing) but most normal people don't care what you eat and neither should you care what anyone else eats because everyone had their set of standards about what they want to put in their own body.

[lazermazer]

Yeah , stop caring, who tf cares? Who gives damn about planet? Your house is burning but you shouldn't care. Someone is rapping someone but you shouldn't care. Its their life let them do whatever they feel like.

[TheGreatValerie]

@lazermazer I didn't say anything about raping and burning houses. I said people can eat what they want. You have a vivid imagination goofy

[Shigeno]

Actually he's right. Meat industry takes a great toll on environment, so yes, we should care what people eat. Not to mention it's not only your "choice" when someone actually dies...

[lazermazer]

I only replied to your un caring part. Thanks for my vivid imagination :p

[SüßeJäger]

I'm a hunter and I love animals. The only difference in a hunter and anyone else that eats meat is the hunter gives enough respect to the animals to kill it quick and clean or at least intends to. I've taken a squirrel to the vet I accidentally hit with my truck. I've also finished off a fox that was hit by a car that was too badly injured to fix.

[Jaye234]

I eat meat so does my family. My pets eat meat too. I live on a working farm where yes we raise cattle, hogs, goats and chickens for food. We sell our animals to live. And yes we even eat our farm animals. I have a pet dairy cow named Bertha we get our milk from her and make cheese. If we were starving yes I'd cook her to feed the children on our family fsrm. We have horses too. I'd eat them if I had to. I like eating meat and I love my pets. There is no difference in my love for my pets and my farm animals even though we eat our cows I still love them. That's why they're here for us to eat. I agree with the non torturing of any animal. There is a way to humanly kill our food after we kill our animal we pray and give Thanks for the life of that animal. It's how humans have survived this long. Feel free to condeme and criticize. Thank you!

[Jaye234]

And yes we eat deer. We're southern. We eat meat.

[Zorax]

Well, I'm a vegetarian, because - humans have evolved enough to realize that violence against animals is bad. Basically, humans are also animals, but we live in much higher state of mind, therefore - unlike beasts, we are capable to consider ethical factors (when it comes to food).

[SweetHomicidalQueen]

And I don't care if someone is vegetarian or not- good for you.

[Zorax]

Thank you :)

[EllieLexis513]

My only beef with eating meat is how animals are treated before they are slaughtered, especially pigs.

I still eat meat, though. I think you can advocate for the human treatment of animals, even if they are meant to be slaughter. Just my opinion though. Awesome take.

[SovereignessofVamps]

I can see why someone eould want to be vegan after finding out all of the suffering animals that are mass killed for meat go through. They're treated horrifically from what I've read. I still eat meat all the time. But I don't mind acknowledging it's selfish. I just feel like since it's inevitable they die then may as well eat it. But they suffer a lot and are treated like trash.

[Nothanks700]

I don't think there is anything wrong with eating meat, neither do most reasonable vegans and vegetarians that I know. What's wrong is how these animals are treated and how they are slaughtered. And honestly, if you can afford alternatives, then why do we need to kill animals? I realize not everyone can afford alternatives though, and that's perfectly fine.

[Sabretooth]

i'd also point out this: Homeless animals outnumber homeless people 5 to 1. Each year, approximately 2.7 million dogs and cats are killed every year because shelters are too full and there aren't enough adoptive homes. Act as a publicist for your local shelter so pets can find homes.
notice how these these are just the ones in shelters before they end up in shelters-Approximately 7.6 million companion animals enter animal shelters nationwide every year. Of those, approximately 3.9 million are dogs and 3.4 million are cats. Each year, approximately 2.7 million animals are euthanized (1.2 million dogs and 1.4 million cats).
combine those numbers to the 200 million animals killed by hunters for sport, and you have two hundred six million six hundred thousand
animals that are killed for killed and tortured for fun or for crowd control.

[KittieCat]

I don't know I'm proud to be an animal murderer. If you're a meat eater or you consume dairy you support the killing/rape of animals. I don't consume much dairy or veal for the sake of that's just too fucked up, but I will consume most other meats from local farms if I can.

[KittieCat]

Welp gg phone.
Anyways I also think it's rather weird that we find it not okay to eat dogs or horses when it's okay to eat a cow or a pig. Pig's are wayyy more intelligent than dogs and as far as a house pet, I'd choose the pig. Cows can also help you work in fields but it's acceptable to eat them and not horses. Sure the dogs and horses have uses, but why is it so taboo to consume them?

[SweetHomicidalQueen]

lol so you're one of those

[KittieCat]

One of what? lol

[SweetHomicidalQueen]

you're one of those people that preach about the "raping" of animals and their "superior intelligence" etc etc

[KittieCat]

No lol. You're artificially inseminating an animal for her milk. Keep in mind I'm fine with that but to say it's not rape is simply not true. What I am not okay with is having her give birth and have her child ripped away from her and chained to the ground for 6 months then killed. Dunno maybe it's my maternal instinct but that's a little overboard. I don't care for the taste of veal anyways.
And no one is saying superior intelligence. All I'm saying is that a pig is smarter than a dog or a cat, and would prefer them as a house pet for that reason. That's all lol

[KittieCat]

Sorry or forcefully inseminating (of course there are some small farms that just let it happen but it's not sustainable) cows but regardless.. rape.

[cinderelli]

LOVE you for posting things.. I don't have any problem with vegans but what annoys me is that once they tell they're vegan.. they start acting like all others are murderers and they're better than the rest of us.. it's same as shoving your religion down someone else's throat.. when I don't give a shit what they eat.. they shouldn't also keep their mouth shut about whatever I put in my mouth..

[NotTheFBI]

Good MyTake and to Vegans... don't care Charlie the Chicken is still on the menu. :v So is Bambie if that bastard crosses my path >:P

Food chain and circle of life... hey answer this... why doesn't anyone get angry when animals in the wild eat people... or other animals? hmm weird right? :v

Ok ok enough trolling... but Bambie's still gonna get eaten :v

[lazermazer]

I wrote a long post but my phone turned off and gone. But short story , i will not force anyone to be vegan or vegetarian, or no veg (i am eggetarian) , i can't enjoy (eating is joy) anything if i know something is not right (my soul stops me) whether it be killing humanely or not. I can't let someone's pain be my joy.

[Shigeno]

Humans are not carnivores, educate yourself ignorant. And no, they aren't omnivores either. We're frugivores. We weren't made to eat meat. Look at our digestive system, enzymes, anatomy, denture...

Another thing you fail to understand is you DON'T NEED meat to survive and all the the nutrients you speak off can easily be provided by non animal products. It's the accessibility and years of conditioning that makes you think that you need it. Or rather a lack of education.

[SweetHomicidalQueen]

Aww you're such a cute little angry vegan

[Shigeno]

And you're uneducated hypocritical brat. But what could you possibly expect from a burger queen.

[SweetHomicidalQueen]

Awww an adult resorts to insulting a teenager on the internet. You don't see that everyday :)

[EnglishArtsteacher]

Most doctors have recommended me to eat meat, because it's the easiest way to get protein.

[Shigeno]

@EnglishArtsteacher It's the old school of thought and they aren't dietitians.

[Shigeno]

@EnglishArtsteacher On vegan diet it's easier cause you don't have to kill anyone. www.indraloka.org/.../Vegan-protein-foods.jpg

[Echelon333]

Everyone knows this but still..
How do you know someone is vegan? Don't worry they will tell you lmao
"We weren't made to eat meat" killed me bruh..

[ManicMusicMonkey]

Let vegans be vegans they'll starve themselves off the face of the planet eventually. 😂

[LeFrogDog]

Sigh, as one vegetarian stated (or what he self proclaimed), eating them is not the issue. The issue is how they are killed. The vegetarians pretty much boycott eating meat because of how the animal is treated not because you are eating it. Then again there are some that will hate on you for just consuming meat in general.

[Maxemeister]

"1. Cheese is not made by killing cows, it's extracted via milk and turned into cheese.
2. I love animals. I love meat. I have pet birds. I eat birds (chicken.) I have mammals as pets. I eat mammals. Why? Because this is part of nature, some things are eaten and some things eat."

U quoted me. I'm so flattered. I think I'm gonna cry :'(

[spoonman2014]

I went vegetarian to experiment on myself to see what diets are the best. And what I discovered is this, being a vegetarian isn't hard you just have to be creative. People are to used to just throwing down meat with everything to make their meal taste better. If you learn to actually cook you can actually enjoy the food lol. But to each their own

[melme16]

I respect your opinion. But check out the documentary "Earthlings" free on youtube. Then we'll start talking if cheese doesn't really kill the cow (in the long run).

And yes, I am vegan

[bsophie]

"I eat cows and pigs and chickens, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna kill and eat a stray dog or bunny."
whats the difference between what animal you eat?
And there are other sources of protein - you don't need to eat animals.

[SweetHomicidalQueen]

The difference is one I see as a pet, the other I see as a meal

[bsophie]

bit unfair to the meal animal :/

[SweetHomicidalQueen]

in the animal kingdom, everything is fair