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Part of the blame does of course fall on the women. But legally its not structured that way to protect from moral hazard
I am all for people taking responsibility for their actions...
Yes! That is why if you get drunk and go driving, and you hurt someone, guess what? IT'S YOUR FAULT! You will serve time! Being drunk/high is no excuse! The same goes for any other number of actions!
" I'm the voice of common sense trying desperately to permeate this victim complex and abject disinterest in personal responsibility." You are a poet!
Didn't you know that regret is rape? Feminist taking responsibility for their actions? Pshhh lmao.
Lol lets ask feminists the following question "if both of them are drunk and have sex and the next morning both regret does it mean they raped each other"?
This is why I simply find it easier to just not go out with the intent of getting drunk.
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this had to be said by a woman at least once!
Absolutely. I domt go out and get so drunk I can't look after myself and do you know why? It's dangerous. I dont want to get taken advantage off even though it wouldn't be my fault. You can't just drink away all responsibilities for having to look after yourself.
I agree. People shouldn't be raped, but people shouldn't be idiots and allow themselves to be put into those situations.
How about the women in the middle east who are covered head to toe, don't drink nor smoke, but still get raped. What stupid choices are they making that led to their rape?
@BuchitaBuchys Did you actually read this or just skim it? Seriously...
And as for Middle Eastern women, it is perfectly legal in many Muslim countries that I know (Jordan, Somolia, Sudan, parts of Malaysia, Thailand, Kazakhstan, Turkey, I could go on but you get the idea) of for them to drink and smoke. The religious idea of banning it or it being "haram" is for conservative religious Muslims. Even in places like Egypt where it really is illegal, enforcement is not necessarily strict. Think underage drinking in the US, yes its illegal, but how many people did you know that had drinks before they were 21? Maybe spend 2 or even 3 minuets researching a topic before posting?
Tell that to this bitchy child with a rage problem... https://www. girlsaskguys. com/guys-behavior/q2105699-how-should-a-female-react-to-a-guy-doing-this
THANK YOU! I've been making this argent my entire adult life! I drink to the point where my friends aren't willing to keep up but I'm always aware of my actions. I never understood how people can just let go and blame their actions on the alcohol
Tottally unrelated but I got to say RIP Gene Wilder.
Can't exactly disagree, but there are some cases if you forget to eat and get way drunker than usual or, God forbid, roofied... But I know what you mean
I didn't drink for a long time and still don't, really, but the first time I got drunk, I literally acted the same, just quieter and sleepy and slightly off balance... But I was still cognizant. I know everyone acts different while drunk, but for the life of me, can't understand when people know when to shut it down or act like a total moron... And I was about 15 shots in of jack Daniel and like 5 beers deep (I hate beer, btw)
Agree. If you put yourself in a position to become a victim then it's your fault. Your fault for becoming a victim and the other persons fault for making you a victim. People that expect no consequences to their actions are naive and foolish.
Being a rape victim is not 100% a the victim's fault. You cannot say they are.
I'm sure you've been around enough drunk people in your time, have you sexually assaulted any of them? No because you have this thing called self control, and knowledge that forcing yourself on someone who's barely conscious or in a state to be able to defend themselves is something you don't do.
You'd really agree with a rapist who stood up in court and said "It's not my fault I raped her/him, they were drunk" really?
@AperolSpritz you didn't read the take at all did you?
@AperolSpritz
The guy is a fault for the actual rape the girl is a fault for making it possible. The root cause is being so drunk you can't defend yourself and make stupid choices. It's foolish and retard to expect nothing bad to happen and everyone be good. The girl doesn't have self control not to get so trashed and put herself in a vulnerable position. Without her putting herself in that position she couldn't have been taken advantage of. Her stupidity is the root cause plus bad people. Be more responsible
@genuinlysensitive Yes, I read the take. This reply was simply to this original comment
The difference still is that anyone who attacks someone still knows the difference between what's right and what's wrong.
I know what you're saying, I know what the OP very quickly as some kind of disclaimer before launching into victim shaming ( because that's what this is)
The part about the actual rapist is written in such a brief, dismissive "whatever" way.
I know this was written almost purely to antagonise and cause upset. It's looking for an argument from people, but it's still shocking how quick some people are to excuse, or somehow let off a rapist actions.
I know what you're saying, but the person it happened to has gone over and over in their own head what they did " wrong" they're already torturing themselves.
Saying "you brought it on yourself" is just the wrong attitude to have for many reasons
@AperolSpritz
No the difference is they don't give a shit about what's right or wrong and no one will or can change that. The only thing you can change is behavior that leads to be taken advantage of. No it's not victim shaming it's speaking the truth telling it like it is it's acknowledging reality. Playing the victim (blaming others for your choices) and dependency which is what the left preaches will erode character and make everything worse. Without people making themselves easy targets it would be a lot harder to be taken advantage of. People with your mindset only make things worse.
@AperolSpritz "Being a rape victim is not 100% a the victim's fault" At no point in this take was this said, paraphrased or implied. The opposite in fact. Try actually reading it.
@genuinlysensitive Like i keep saying, this was simply a reply to this reply, not the take itself.
When I am drunk and kill someone while driving a car drunk, I sure as hell get the consequences of my actions as well.
Alcohol does not absolve of consequences. Thus good job on writing the take.
"but if you just hadn't made such stupid choices, you know what else? It wouldn't have even happened"
Wrong. It would have happened to someone else.
Someone else who DID make stupid choices. Most such crimes are crimes of opportunity. If the rapist did not see someone who would be an easy victim, chances are they would not have upped the risk and gone after a hard target. Most perps are not Ted Bundy's who scheme and plan their crimes.
It's called being responsible. I like that :)
Good take! I absolutely agree to that!
Don't expect those, who play the victim card to understand :P
Good my take. And yes all actions have circumstances.
This is amazing. Loved your take.
So it's my fault if when i'm drunk, I accidentally cum on the face of a girl who is not my gf?
... Yes, totally. Obviously.
Lol "accidentally" yea my ex tried to use that one too.
@genuinlysensitive No, according to the writer of this take, it'd be either girl's fault, but definitely not yours.
@AperolSpritz I don't think that's how this take's writer thinks... it's more "you were drinking and are therefore partially responsible".
I think its that drinking doesn't excuse stupid behavior. Many people my ex included, went to a party with alcohol, with the express purpose of cheating, then (even though they weren't) claimed to be drunk because in their minds "It doesn't count" if you say you were drunk. People use the "I was drunk" so it doesn't count way too much, that is the whole reason for DUIs DWIs etc. Because guess what? It doesn't completely absolve you of your actions!
@genuinlysensitive *GASP*
it's why I don't drink anymore cause I know what it does to your life and I'm sure in the hell ain't going back to it