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WTF there's a WGTOW now?
you gotta be kidding me, I thought the purpose of FEMINISM was to teach women to actually go their way and be strong and independent. so if there's a WGTOW does this mean that FEMINISM was actually a failure?
anyways no to answer your question I'm a mgtow member myself and joining this movement was the best thing I've done for myself. it feels good to realize that as man you can be yourself and actually enjoy being yourself without the need of the approval and the expectations of the opposite gender. so with that said men (at least) are screwed at all.
now going back to the WGTOW that movement is bound to be a failure. obviously thanks to feminism everybody now knows that unlike men women can't really survive on their own without the presence of a man to take care of them and solve all their problems. its also funny how the same people who ridicule us members of the MGTOW calling us "virgin losers" etc now want to get on our level and start their own movement ripping off of ours, talk about CHARACTER ASSASSINATION!
to be honest I think if women want to start their own "go their own way" movement they should call it WFOALMA. which stands for...
"WOMEN FUCKING OFF AND LEAVING MEN ALONE!"
"butt-hurt losers who, instead of stepping up their game, have decided to just scream "I quit!" like a petulant nine-year-old and blame all the world's ills on women. Sorry, had to get that out of my system"
https://youtu.be/RV-OU2ht-II?t=12sThat's an easy claim to make when you are part of the demographic has skewed the system to the point where you can claim perpetual victim hood and destroy a mans life for no reason.
I love how you state how women have made great strides, and are attending and graduating college at a higher percent than men. The reason these things are happening is because of that false victim hood. Society has coddled women to the point where we actually have become detrimental to men. Affirmative action and Quotas give women jobs over more qualified men, the school system is biased against boys and is the reason boys are dropping out at epidemic levels.
It's easy to say women are "achieving anything" when society has removed all requirement for women. We haven't just lowered the bar, we have removed it. Men still have to meet the requirements for jobs but now they also have to fight against the quotas where they lose out to a less qualified person based on sex or race.
Men and women are not driving a wedge between the sexes... feminist are.
I am not MGTOW myself, but I understand why it is happening.
Yes, than clearly, if there are no barriers in place for women, then I should be able to get any job I apply to, correct? Because I missed out on not one but three jobs last year to guys (straight, white guys, non the less, so there was not affirmative action working for me. Plus, now that men and women to to college about equally, affirmative action for colleges is pretty much null unless you're a racial minority or someone "special"
And the school system is most definitaly not biased against boys. That's the stupidest thing I've heard
@FallOutBoy2001 Obviously Affirmative action isn't an absolute, but yes generally if you apply for a job that is predominantly male you will be selected over males (even if they are more qualified).
Men and women are NOT going to college equally.
www.forbes.com/.../#7dba58d61525
And affirmative action actually does exist for women in schools along with other bias'.
There are endless numbers of scholarships for women only, and very few if any for men only. Schools fill gender quotas. Schools mark females lighter than boys.
time.com/.../
www.independent.co.uk/.../...er-marks-6943937.html
Schools are 100% bias against boys.
pjmedia.com/.../
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...-treat-boy-illness.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFpYj0E-yb4
So regardless of how stupid it sounds to you... facts remain true. The reason boys are not going to schools at epidemic levels is because of the feminist slanted school systems bias against them.
Maybe that's true for things like teaching, but in fields like STEM I'm still at quite a disadvantage. I've been told, to my face, that I shouldn't be in a class simply because I was female and it was an advanced science class. People wonder why girls don't go into STEM, and it's because we constantly get told that we shouldn't be doing it or it's too hard.
Maybe my view is skewed a bit because of my experiences trying to get into STEM programs
@FallOutBoy2001 Women are not in STEM fields because they choose not to be in stem fields. There is nothing preventing them. Women are actually getting bonus' to entice them to go into STEM fields, and are making more out of school than men in these fields.
Yes you may meet some bias at points in life (We all do) but if that's all it takes for you to give up, then you maybe shouldn't be in that field. Meeting obstacles is one of the major parts of STEM jobs, and if you can't even overcome a simple obstacle like an opinion then it's actually proving that the opinion is right.
"According to a study from the National Center for Education Statistics..."
"women leaned more towards education, nursing, social work and counseling"
"a recent Pew Research Center report shows that women, choose to be stay at home moms and these careers offer more flexibility than the typical technology job"
www.forbes.com/.../#5c54dc5d31c3
I mean I'm the type of person who if you tell me I can't do something I'll find a way to do it, so it isn't a problem for me
@FallOutBoy2001 - Maybe you weren't qualified - ever think of that?
@RedCar I did, and if I wanted to do it I because qualified
*****READ THIS*****
Hey you, you are missing the whole point, I created an account just to say this to you, I am not a MGTOW but you are just not understanding their view and their reason behind it, there are no feelings such as hatred or bitterness or defeat in majority of MGTOWs, SOME of them certainly have had those bitter experiences at the beginning, and those things acted as a catalyzer for some or as an activation energy provider for some others to become MGTOWs, but MGTOWs in general don't hate women or relationships or the people who are in relationships, they may try to convert other men into being MGTOWs but they don't hate those men or their partners, they simply think that they may be able to introduce a better and easier way of life to their mates, MGTOWs are just a bunch of poor men who simply don't want to deal with drama anymore, they are just going their own way, for better or worse, they reached a point that made them think that they are not benefiting much for those relationships, let them go peacefully, haven't you done enough? Is it so hard to understand? Why are you saying these things about them? Also just for the records, as I know some people may ask, I am not a MGTOW as I said, I am a poor 24 year old virgin man who is a full-time student and will probably remain virgin for the rest of his life (by choice, not because I am ugly or have a medical condition), but I support those men who choose to be MGTOWs.
Just before someone else mentions, I'm 24, not 27, I entered 1990 as my birth year when I registered, I didn't think that was important.
Here is what drove me MGTOW... At a dry club in Salt Lake City (no alcohol) I said Hi' hope Your having a good time tonight - to a rather husky lady who turned out to be a feminist. She screamed that she was going to call the cops... and so other folks did... Police arrive, handcuff me and get my side of the prerogative. It was told to police I "sexually assaulted" the feminist lady.. and no clarifying statements were made. Needless to say, I rebuffed that, and the police watched the surveillance video. After vindication I did nothing more than offer pleasantries I was uncuffed and free to leave. That was when I realized hanging out with my male friends who are also straight was the only safe angle a single white male can take. No more, never again... Thankfully it was in a facility that did not serve alcohol, and that had high-quality video. The lunatic feminist was not charged with making a false report to police and was also free to go about her evening - surmising to accuse another male? Copulation, company and dates are not worth the liable and risk of freedom. that was 2005. MGTOW will remain my destiny until my dying breath. Let some other guy fill the boyfriend shoes.. I got a house and good job to protect.
This video sort of validates my experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21NWphbQm18
So, instead of writing off the experience as an unfortunate brush with crazy, you decided to write off the entire female population as a whole? I'm genuinely confused about your logic here. There are shitty people of both genders. I'm sorry about your experience, but it has jaded you.
wow dude i didn't know feminist insanity in america had gone this far. wow. i guess men looking to marry go to the east nowadays... .
Hey, look at where you are (geographically). I'm surprised the self righteous "Mormon Police" didn't condem you to hell
Women in the western world are nuts!
Even though I'm young, I haven't dated since I was 17 and mostly likely never will again. I'm not MGTOW but people think I am because I gave up on women, my friends/family thought I was joking lol
Look around you. The real world is not the internet. Most people are still pairing off and always will be. No online movement is going to stop us falling in love.
If this has any effect maybe it'll be a force for good. Maybe society will finally accept that being single past 30 or 40 or 50 is a valid lifestyle. It is not in fact forbidden under the laws of the universe and maybe the endless discrimination against older single people will finally ease off.
Lots of people saying that MGTOW guys are just blaming women that they can't get laid. No one ever seems to take it to the next conclusion though - that maybe single guys wouldn't feel the need to blame anyone if they weren't taught from as soon as they can crawl that their entire worth as a human being is solely based on their ability to "get laid" and earn big money (the latter also causes lots of problems of course).
Likewise, maybe single women wouldn't feel the need to blame someone if they weren't taught that their entire worth is based on their ability to attract a man.
The feminist movement has made big strides to get rid of the latter of those two but obviously doesn't give a crap about the former.
Its that age old story, loser men blame women, loser women blame men. But at the end of the day, most people will end up with someone. Even if that wasn't what they planned in the beginning.
I do think some men and women are genuine when they decide not to commit, and that's perfectly respectable. Their life, their choice. Don't believe the loud minority of the MGTOWs and WGTOWs, they're usually miserable and
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Very well put , I agree with this. Accually I almost thought I said this ... jk
I think you need to be a military slave being abused by a lieutennant, doing a prison sentence for a new post-9/11 sexual or political law change, sleeping rough, suicidal, substance-addicted, long-term unemployed, living in a shanty town or other Third World Poverty, or in say Iraq or Afghanistan, or in the Trenches of the First World War, before you make such sweeping, unqualified judgements about male rights campaigners.
@DonRomeo Really?
Men are commitment gatekeepers and women are sexual gatekeepers.
Misery? I got 20k in my bank! Misery?
Life's too fucking good to be miserable and I'm a part of the MGTOW community myself!
I'm a 21 year old non-virgin MGHOW (men going his own way, singular for MGTOW) who choose a voluntary celibacy lifestyle which can land him a relaxful/paradise-type life with a load of cash in his bank. I am making $30hr right now and I've saved up over 20k in my bank so far. Will I ever get married? Due to the info I've research about the western world and the pathetic gynocentrism that causes nothing but trouble, no I won't!
@Yoloxt23 Not that I'm this ; but why don't you come to Hawaii where this isn't prevelant what so ever and be with a woman again.
@Djaaaaaay why? It's the same shit elsewhere!
@Yoloxt23 wrong , so wrong... we don't do this here what so ever. Our women and men are all together on everything and there is no feminism stuff operating here. No one.. is going the other way at all over here. Local girls smash any other woman who brings that stuff here. They don't take kindly to other women talking crap about thier men here.
@Djaaaaaay that's bs right there! It's part of the USA which means there is feminism over in Hawaii! Who you actually trying to fool over here? No one!
@Yoloxt23 Wrong and I grew up over here too. Hawaii hates the mainland states and we fly the British flag , not the American flag. We are everything the mainland isn't. Our girls here dont like other women talking crap about thier men and besides both genders are together on everything.
@Djaaaaaay Is Hawaii's money USD or GBP?
@Yoloxt23 Yes it is , but the Hawaiians don't give one flying f... about the mainland ways and neither do our court systems. Basically, we're still a third world country.
They have WGTOW. It is called feminism. And like MGTOW, it is for losers. Both ideologies merely attract losers and/or those who struggle and are less than successful with the opposite sex. Like neckbeards and fat women. It gives them a pseudo-educated way to blame others for their own shortcomings and evade personal responsibility. Both sexes are resorting to these ideologies in mass. I am not sure what the long term effects will be, but I predict that we will be a much lonelier society where pornography, cam girls/guys, and sex toys like robots will become that much more acceptable and widespread.
That's the irony. Feminists in general (not all) are usually the type that men wouldn't flirt or go after, it seems like they are trying to level their own playing field by making sure that attractive women don't get attention either.
There is a reason why the black power and anti-racist movements have ground to an almost non-existence — because there isn't enough racism going on socially and in the workplace to warrant the movement. Yet with feminism it's morphed to continue demonizing men despite all the numerous privileges, beneficial double-standards and assistance.
Even if a 90% tax was imposed on men, the overwhelming majority would still choose to be men and that's something that feminists can't stand — that they will never be men.
NECKBEARDS LOL
MGTOW isn't for losers. It's for guys who realize that feminism, corporatism, the sexual revolution and the court system have corrupted women to the point where making a marriage commitment is now financial suicide.
@castratedwhiteguy Well then take your balls out and MAN up! Accept that not every women is going to go gaga over you. Relationships fall apart because people don't work at keeping them together. Divorce is up because people go into marriage thinking it's a cake walk and then when it's not all they dreamed of, they see the easy way out. I also blame divorce on feminism to an extent where men don't act like men anymore and are now acting like a woman's dog instead of the protector and supporter of the her and the family. All these stupid ass "isms" are fucking shit up.
@castratedwhiteguy I know. And I repeat, it is for losers. It is a form of cowardice, running away instead of actually solving the problem. Your username bears witness to precisely what I am talking about. The white male has been completely castrated. They have allowed themselves to be demonized by the same feminists, immigrants, and minorities who are living in the world that they created. White men built Western civilization and now they are cowering down like a father allowing his children to bully him in his own household.
What's a neckbeard?
Lmao. Eat a dick dude. "1996".
Come back when you aren't living off your parents you piece of shit.
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@MrMysteryMan You're overlooking something. You blame men for being "too pussy" and becoming dogs to women... their floor mat. You cite them as designated as provider and protector. Here is the reality... Men ARE being this.. probably up front, especially since women don't marry financially weak men. The reality is that women refuse all modes of man that he presents to her and only accepts the obsequious. Period.
So have a talk with the ladies and tell them to get more talented at knowing what to leave the fk alone and how to better know what is good for them and a family that is healthy.
I have noticed the longer lasting marriages that don't have cheating and where BOTH PEOPLE are happy, they are all marriages where the wife does not work and is somewhat subservient to the husband. He's the boss. Period. DO I subscribe to this? Not really but I see the math... Look it up yourself. Women who are headstrong demanding and sadists foster failing marriages typically 3 or more...
@kevinflynn Are you sure of this? I agree that the marriages that flourish and survive are the ones with both parties are happy and content. What I'm saying is, men should be always the boss, but not necessarily the autocratic rulers as in a dictatorship. Then when the man dies or something happens to him where his background is unstable and isn't very helpful to the family structure, you better have a strong and stable woman there to pick up the pieces or your marriage and family is going to self destruct. What I'm saying is, both parties, should be strong in a marriage for it to survive and flourish. Whoever makes all the decisions, that's up to whoever is in the relationship. But, men should be men and should be strong enough to know that you need a strong woman to support the household or you're going to come home to utter chaos every night and an unhappy household.
I know you've heard that old espression which is true you can only kick a dog so much. Then it will eventually start to bite back. Well that's where men are today. Myself I haven't been on a date or touched a girl in 30 years and i could care less if I ever did. I'm happy the way I am now and I don't know if I could ever change that I'm so set in my ways now. I think most men are getting to this point. If a girl wants to go lesbian I could care less have at it and keep out of my sight. But don't come asking me for anything a woman can't do cause you're on your own. I don't let women minipulate me one but I won't put up with that. And with that said enjoy the video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVbR1oI_200Don't you worry, I never will ask you for anything. But why you think I would is beyond me.
@juliaanita I'm not worried.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, if people want to go their own way it's their decision and I'm not going to cry over it neither will most women. There will always be people who want love, commitment and all that. There will never be a point where no one will want to date the opposite gender ever because while yes, there are tragic stories about heartbreak and rejection, there are also TONS of stories about happy relationships and couples (however they never get the attention). People want to forget the positives and focus on the negatives. MGTOW's does it all the time. They just want to believe all women are the same and if a guy has that kind of mentality, to not even give me a chance for example, just because of HIS assumptions, then yes, he damn well doesn't deserve me and should be going his own way for that type of arrogance. It's no big deal. There are guys who still adore us, and women who still adore men :) <3
I consider it more than "kind of sad," to me it's very sad. We're supposed to be each other's friends, lovers, help-mates, companions, & soul-mates. Not each other's mortal enemies.
While there certainly is a lot to be said for women being successful in our own right there is still a lot more to life, & relationships are a big part of it. I know a lot of women in their 50s who have never been in a love relationship. While they are professionally very successful every one of them still consider themselves unfulfilled, having missed out on a very significant aspect of human existence.
"We're supposed to be each other's friends, lovers, help-mates, companions, & soul-mates."
Feminists ended that 40 years ago.
@RedCar It still makes me sad.
Contrary to popular belief, the idea of feminism is simply to define, establish, & achieve political, economic, personal, & social rights for women. It's not an opposition to men & it does not require an attitude of men are swine.
It's all a big pile of stupid bullshit that slaps nature in the face. We humans are so goddam pompous.
"Teach boys that girls are not sexual obects" I've read recently. And while abuse and assault are obviously entirely unacceptable, this statement if FUBAR on a massive level.
I'm leaving out LGBTQ here just for simplicity's sake but people jeez...
Girls ARE sexual objects to boys. Just like boys ARE sexual objects to girls. It's called procreation you damned morons.
The TREATMENT of one another as loved and cherished souls is an entirely different topic that the western education system and culture has apparently very successfully mixed the f**k up in a huge way.
This is only half of the people. The rest are more well adjusted. You just have to weed through the f'd-up ones.
Unfortunately the latest crop of 'men' have been raised to be like girls, they are even starting to dress and accessorize like them. No wonder the women are bored with them.
Women need to learn how to be polite, and what men really want. Men need to learn how to be real men, and quit cow-towing in hopes to get sex. They need to find their mission and pursue it. Then there will be a woman that comes along worth sharing his life with.
Women are raising these 'men' in fatherless homes and male-teacher-void school rooms. Boys are told to be more like girls, drugged on Ritalin by the millions, dressed as girls, told they are worthless, receive low grades solely for being boys. They grow up to be further abused by being denied access to higher education, face enormous obstacles to getting jobs, are universally discriminated against under the law and family courts. Men didn't ask for this, women did. This is definitely women's fault. MGTOW are just saying, "Well... bye!"
@RedCar My youngest is a boy, he's 22 now. When he was in grade school I remember him getting into some kind of trouble and the teacher's punishment was 'no recess'. Well, that didn't go over well with me, we had a nice little sit-down with the teacher and I expressed my disbelief and incredulousness and that didn't happen again. Boys need their outdoor time run around and blow off steam. There was no way he was gonna be drugged either.
So today he's a real man. He's polite, well mannered, but more importantly he's brilliant, will graduate with a master's in four short years at the university, and has a signing bonus and a huge salary when he starts with a huge software company later this year.
Raising boys without fathers is beyond child abuse. These women that purposely deny their sons a father are criminals IMHO.
most of the MGTOW's are bitter divorced single men who reguard all women as: gold digging, sluts who hold them back by burdening them with kids etc forget that BS. if you like somebody approach them, and introduce yourself and get a converstion going. stop blaming feminism and the internet for your problems... because all that will happen is it will accesserbate the problem. at the least go outside and get some fresh air. even if you dont meet anybody you will know what the sun looks like. conversation has been going on since the dawn of time. no i dont think the world will die out becuase you wouldn't get their phone number. and if they do give you their phone number, call them dont text. its the LEAST you can do.
Very very good article. Nice title too, i also liked the bit about women can AND are doing their own thing. Its kinda sad how bad this gender war has become. When i heard about the MGTOW, i thought it was a good movement, but out of all the people who claim to be MGTOW, a good percentage of them are guys that already DONT know how to deal with women and just think that becoming a part of a group will make them more confident or something... i was gonna join the group till i saw this phenomenon.
So i stayed with my group DGHOW (Diesel Going His Own Way), works out just great. I say screw all stereotypes, female "rules", expectations, etc, I stick with the way Nature INTENDED us to be... im a MAN and i play the role and do the duties that come with it, which sometimes involves courting and dealing with women. I also know when to cut them off when they start to cross lines, something more and more men seem not to be able to do.
It is a growing problem and it starts earlier in life than people think. This is why I think school curricula need to encompass mutual respect and understanding others (the traditional genders, other sexualities, the world of the wheelchair user, the world of a narcoleptic person, what it's like suffering from multiple sclerosis, being autistic, learning difficulties, depression and other mental illnesses, advanced years, other cultures/values, etc.) in their PSHE & Citizenship classes. Only when people know people have an understanding of what they go through can they feel safe and accepted.
WTF are you talking about? Are you just nuts? Maybe you are attracting the wrong guys, or just judging!
Swearing off women? NEVER!!! Who would do that? (Sorry, gay guys, no offense to you!)
So you get burned by a few!! That's life!! Grow up!! Realize that everyone you think you want isn't going to always want you and just move on to the next!!
(Not 'attacking you' as the poster, but this stupid idea!!)
I think that the REAL problem, is that people RUSH IN, and think one thing, and they get married, or get in a relationship, and the other is different than they imagined, and they get angry (men or women) and then post sht about how bad the other gender is!!
I ADORE WOMEN, and I wouldn't want to live in a world, without them! Even with what I think is 'drama' or just whatever. . . I can deal with that!! I can't deal with the haters that just say they hate the other gender!!
Well first of all there no such thing as WGTOW since women are somehow capable of making their personal life choices even without a "movement".
And it's not a bad thing when people choose to not have children several countries are suffering from severe overpopulation. There are also several people who choose to not pass on their genes to the next generation for good reason.
Oh? So whats feminism if not a womens movement? Seems like you didn't think that one through, to busy trying to ridicule a group without actually bothering to understand why they exist to begin with (and just to preempt you no, I am not a MGTOW I think they will fall to the same destructive idiocy as feminism, I just empathize with their reason for going that route what with everything being against them).
@hellionthesagereborn So we both know that I blocked your last account. WTF makes you think that I care what you think or what you say?
LOL you're delusional. Women are constantly proclaiming how they don't need a man, how they're independent and fine on their own. In fact, women have been doing this far longer than men, since about the time the feminist movement reach critical mass in the 1970s.
@BigJake Exactly. Women say what choices they make in their own life and then make them. They don't need to call it anything or claim it's a movement. They just do it.
they called it feminism and they are quick to make sure everybody knows about it too, so your comment is false and stupid.
@alphadoggystyle No. Feminism supports women making choices that work for them. If a woman wants to get married and have children that's her choice. If she wants to do her own thing for her entire life that's her choice. If she wants to keep a harem of willing men and/or women that's her choice.
Are you going to keep trying to make us think you're ridiculous or are you going to be a rational and thinking individual from now on?
you're wrong again, im the logical one here while you are being nonsensical as typical of a woman. You cannot make the claim that women can make choices without a movement when feminism is exactly the movement that women used to make choices for themselves, there is no difference on that specific point between mgtow or feminism, mgtow is less of a movement compared to feminism, and more of a lifestyle choice anyway, but there is no way you can accuse men of needing mgtow as a movement to make choices when feminism is the same thing for women except more extreme.
Sorry i will always check out womens ummm legs and i will not be quiet about it. Lol i am not swearing off women just because a few think i am not good enough to be checking them out. Lol dont worry ladies i set a good skirt chasing example for my son and he is already following in my steps so you dont have to worry your daughters will have at least one fuckboy to chase them :) so the world isn't totally dambed. I am sure he would be happy to repopulate the earth if everyone goes MGTOWS and WGTOWS.
Two thoughts; the first is that you certainly aren't helping when you spout how women are doing 'better' than men and are actually putting a much deeper wedge in, and two, the WGTOW movement is nearly nonexistent, because as far as sexual and romantic relationships go, women have every social advantage, especially in our modern era. This simply ignores the situation that actually exists, and the deeper reasoning behind either movement in the first place, once again going for the 'men should just try harder' rhetoric that should blatantly serve as a smoking pistol to anybody reading.
Personally, I really don't see how it's now more difficult to approach women. The digital era has changed the way we date, but that's about it. I think the only no Bo's are don't hook up with a stranger, which is probably a good thing to do anyway. If you know a person before you become intimate; I seriously doubt you are going to be fasley accused of something. Let's keep in mind though. The majority of women are not sociopaths. It's extremely unlikely that an over abundance of women are making rape claims simply because they regret having sex. There are false reports, and we shouldn't be immiddietly believing either party without investigation. But, I mean come on! Do people seriously believe that the majority of rape reports are false? That's freaking absurd
Oh you'd be surprised how many women are sociopaths today
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You are soooo wrong. Science already knows that way more women are NPD than men, that they are more manipulative than and that they are better liars than men. Read some Psychology Today or some research studies on the subjects.