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The Differences Between Homophobic and Just Not Supporting Gay Marriage (Page 2)
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First off, I'd like to say that I found this post to be really dumb. Second off, why are you against gay marriage? How does their marriage impact you in any way? Don't give me some bs like "it goes against the sanctity of marriage" because I've seen straight couples who clearly don't respect the "sanctity" of marriage. I want a legit answer, with facts and reasoning.
thank you. People believe that becomes someone is STRAIGHT they’re just overall better at marriage or being a parent
Free speech doesn't mean your not a homophobe, it just means you can't be jailed for sharing your opinions. I think using your beliefs to keep come someone else from living their life the way they want is wrong and it cracks me up that these people bring up their free speach and saying they shouldn't be called things or judged on it but it's okay for them to interfere in other peoples lives when really it has absolutely nothing to do with them.
um no?
if you dont support gay marriage you dont see them as equal as your hetero fellas who may marry in your opinion.
so you think theyre not the "same worth" soo if you go by the words of hate and fear i would classify that as some passive hate.
They're not worth any less then me. They're worth the same as any other person. And I think that straight sex before marriage is wrong too, but someone who does that isn't worth any less. We're all the same, they just sin in a different way. Its not hate, or I must hate myself all the time since I sin as well, and even though its not in the same way I'm still just as guilty.
I'm not racist. I don't hate black people. I also don't fear black people. I can also have a peaceful conversation with people who are part of the black community. I am more than happy to peacefully debate the topic of black marriage.
But I don't think that black people should marry. I don't believe they should marry anyone regardless if they are black or non-black.
I'm not racist, I just think it's wrong.
Sometimes you need to take a double take and realise how offensive and insulting your view is to members and supporters of the LGBT community. That's why people will consider your views as homophobic.
The problem is that sexual orientation is different from ethnicity and because of that this is just a false analogy. Someone might be equally offended, but the claim is not the same outside of word usage.
Other than being used for classifications for a hate crime race and sexual orientation do not have any properties in common
For starters black people aren’t an ethnicity @rjroy3
secondly, you are stubborn by your own point of views you are choosing to avoid everything she said, you honestly understood her because you are correcting her
@askfeee 1. Not reviving a convo from a year ago. Feel free to move on because this is my last comment
2. If you're still reading, I'm not justifying your first comment with a response.
3. You'll never know what my thoughts or intent was behind what I said because it feel on deaf ears before any idea were fleshed out.
4. Meant what I said. Last comment. Have a nice day. Don't be stubborn and try to make this a thing
@rjroy don’t say you aren’t going to revive a convo and then comment back 😂 I never wanted your thoughts in fact im proudly here to tell you that you wasted your time commenting back, and lastly I meant wtf I said, you have a bad day’
I'm a straight guy and live in Canada where we've had gay marriage for ages, and it just hasn't made any difference. So those two guys are dating - or are they married? What DIFFERENCE does it make? They are living their own, boring, normal lives where they wash laundry and clean the kitchen and pay taxes and feel too tired to go out and all this stuff. And there you are making some ridiculous moral judgment about the state of their relationship. It's just bizarre.
You may not hate gay people, but you don't support them having the same rights as straight people. Which is kinda fucked up
Let me ask you this: are you equally vocal about judging heterosexual people for their moral shortfalls? Because if you don't hate all sin equally, you are just prejudice.
Of course. All sin is equally wrong
Well, there is nothing wrong with standing up for what you believe. I guess at least you are equally judgmental across the board. But thinking you deserve the opportunity to marry while other people don't still seems pretty selfish.
Say all you want about disliking or disagreeing with homosexuality but taking away their human rights is not freedom of speech hun, that's not how it works.
Don’t care what the dislikes say, you’re speaking the truth. a lot of people lack the compassion, and believe that because they have “freedom of speech” they don’t have to be mindful of the things they say
Apart from being against gay marriage is directly an opinion towards the equalisation of that particular group. You believe they should not be allowed to get married, that they shouldn't have the same rights as a subset. That in itself is bigoted.
There is none. If you think it's okay to deny someone a legal paper because of their sexuality, you do not support their sexuality making you a homophobe. There is no excuse.
"I just think it's wrong" doesn't work when we're discussing rights. Do you support gay rights? No? You're a bigot. Yes? You aren't a bigot.
Interesting take.
I think your allowed to marry someone who you love because love is love. God made us to be different, not be the same. If he made us all to be the same than where would we be? All the same and no diversity among us. He wants us to be different to show that we are all human.
Yes so lets legalize necrophilia, zoophilia and everything else!
@TheInvisibleMan so legalizing sex between two consenting adults who aren't harming each other is the same as allowing someone to have non-consensual sex with someone who may or may not be an adult or even human. Perfect logic
@TheInvisibleMan legalizing sex between a adult male to have sex with a underage girl or a woman who doesn't consent OR a man having sex with a animal. I wasn't getting at either of these two.
Children don't need to get married, especially to an adult. Zoophilia is not really right based on the animal does not give consent.
To both of you, there is really no way of telling whether its with consent or not. Also its not harmful either. So why not give them rights too?
@TheInvisibleMan fucking a dog, or a child, is certainly harmful, and neither is able to consent
@FallOutBoy2001 I didn't mention pedophilia anywhere. And fucking a dog or a corpse isn't harmful, both have sex organs who are there exactly for sex. So since we are trying to make sick shit look normal, lets go all the way! Love is love!
@TheInvisibleMan It's harmful to the dog, and harmful to the human fucking the corpse. Gay sex isn't harmful to either participant unless it goes horrifically wrong (same things happens with straight sex)
@FallOutBoy2001 Its not harmful in any way and you can't know whether the dog or thr corpse want it. The truth is all three are equally sick but assholes decided to give one of those grouos their "rights". Fuck that shit man
@TheInvisibleMan Ever heard of the idea of "yes means yes" and consent having to be certain? Because neither a dog nor a corpse can give consent. Besides, both are non-human, while gay sex is between two humans.
@FallOutBoy2001 Im not saying stop gay sex. Gay people are always going to have sex (again like necrophiles and zoophiles) whether we like it or not. But since they are already doing it, they should keep it to themselves. Im against giving them rights because its literally promoting sick and unnatural shit. You went to the topic of sex.
Its just stupid to be anti gay marriage it doesn't change things for any of us just for gay pepole. I can see why you might support it or feel indifferent but i don't see any reason to be against it?
Honestly... I could care less if someone wants to get married or who they want to marry. I really dont see why anyone would want to marry in this day and age. I never intend to marry again.
So according to your logic not supporting black people's rights/equality doesn't you a racist and not supporting women's rights/equality doesn't make you a sexist, either?
To be fair, being sexist doesn't necessarily mean they dislike the opposite gender lol. So even if they oppose women's rights. Yes they are sexist, but isn't a guarantee they dislike women.
The race comparison isn't quite the same, because gay people could get married, just not to eachother. Marriage was a specific legal agreement. They wanted to turn it into something else so that they could marry.
With black people marriage was just held from them because marriage was a union between man and woman. Not white man and white woman. They met the criteria. So not supporting black marriage was/is racist. The thing about racism tho is that it's usually coupled with dislike or hate unlike sexism.
Just my round about way of saying yes you can disagree with gay marriage and not be homophobic, because homophobic is about actual hate. What's to say someone didn't simply hold marriage as sacred?
@rjroy3 I'm sorry but I disagree entirely.
Not granting everyone the same rights simply based on their sexuality makes you a massive bigot & a homophobe.
No need to apologize.
I agree everyone should have the same rights. And they do have the same rights. If a gay person wants to get married to someone of the opposite gender they have the right to do so. No one is stopping them. The problem is they want to change marriage.
Marriage is a legal contract between man and woman with the state. The stipulation being man and woman are the ones getting married. When black people were kept from doing this it was an imposition of their rights, because of what marriage is core. Everyone has the right. What's happening now is people are fighting for a new contract the state recognizes and offers benefits to, but does not have the same stipulations of marriage.
No one is stopping them from loving, living with and sleeping with who they want. They're just saying that marriage is a specific contract gay couples don't qualify for. The state benefits from male/female family units. That is part of the reason the state offers benefits.
@rjroy3 "No one is stopping them from loving, living with and sleeping with who they want. They're just saying that marriage is a specific contract gay couples don't qualify for. "
And how, in your eyes, does this not qualify as bigoted and homophobic behaviour, since, they do NOT grant homosexuals equal rights?
a lot of people hold that legal union sacred. So if that one thing makes them a bigot and homophobe in your eyes, then you're rather shortsighted on the matter.
Can you seriously not see how you're contradicting yourself here?
@rjroy3 No, actually they're the ones that are shortsighted if they hold prejudices of any kind toward other people simply based on their sexuality since that's incredibly ignorant and I'm almost 100% certain that the majority of open minded people agrees, here.
It is equal rights in the most literal sense. Straight people have the right to marry the opposite gender. Gay people have the right to marry the opposite gender. That is equal. The same right. The issue is they don't want to marry the opposite gender and that is thei entitlement
@rjroy3 You can't seriously be this dense?
Lol you only say that, because
1. I don't 100% agree with you.
And
2. I make a few good points you can't refute.
Take some time and refine what you believe so you don't talk yourself in circles.
I recommend a debate class. This will happen all of the time lol
For the record. I do feel gay people should be allowed to marry. I just don't think being against gay marriage immediately makes you a homophobic bigot.
@rjroy3 "Lol you only say that, because
1. I don't 100% agree with you."
Yeah, which is pretty sad because it, in this case makes you just another homophobic bigot as you clearly see marriage as an institution that gay people should be prohibited from entering, simply because, well, they're gay?
"And
2. I make a few good points you can't refute."
Actually, I've refuted every single one of your points you just seem to be too dense to realise it, that's also why I'm not gonna waste more time repeating myself or spelling it out to you like you're some toddler.
#sorrynotsorry
"Take some time and refine what you believe so you don't talk yourself in circles."
And that, my friend, is exactly what you should be doing.
@rjroy3
Just always remember:
"marriage
ˈmarɪdʒ/Submit
noun
1.
the legally or formally recognized union of a man and a woman (or, in some jurisdictions, two people of the same sex) as partners in a relationship."
Yeah, that's right; "in some jurisdictions, two people of the same sex", if you like it or not.
I'm not homophobic, but I just can't understand what homosexuals are thinking about... I don't get how they are attracted to people of the same gender. I guess I will never know because I've never been one of them.
I don't care about gays they can do whatever they want, even marry. I just don't agree that they should adopt children because I think that a child should have always a mother not two dudes raising him.
so, you are homophobic in other words. Majority of the times children are put in the system by their Mother’s ( and/ or fathers) I need to ask what’d you think mother’s are capable of when raising children that father aren't?
So you want heterosexual people to have more rights than homosexual people.
Not homophobic at all. Got it.
"Homophobic" is probably the wrong word because we don't have a true equivalent of "racist" or "sexist" for sexual orientation or gender identities. Make no mistake though, thinking homosexuality or same-sex marraige is wrong is still bigotry.
And thinking that people who believe homosexuality is wrong is bigoted, is actually bigotry itself.
The correct word is actually "heterosexist". That is the term for one who discriminates against the LGBT.
I'm not a homophobic, I just don't support it. Those who know me on here please don' unfollow or be upset, I don't care if you're gay, les, bi, etc. It's just not for me is all.