Think Men Aren't Sexually Objectified by Women? Think Again... (Page 2)

[Anonymous]

I think the problem tends to be the overall response to these things whether it is men or women being objectified: Stuff like, "Well, if the wo/men commenting their opinions on the story are hot, is it a problem?" "What's wrong with a few 'compliments'?" "These officers should appreciate that people think they are hot and can do their jobs. Nothing wrong with that."

It's frustrating because in many cases, people tend to only consider it REAL objectification if those doing the objectification are 'ugly'. Or you brought up the word feminist... I mean, it shouldn't matter whether that person is a feminist or not, they should feel the same way about people being objectified, which is that it is wrong to do and whether the subject is fe/male or not, should not matter.

[DizzyAster]

I knew this about women from watching cfnm/cmnf porn.
cmnf (clothed male, nude female) usually has women doing other things without any sex involved. There are plenty of sex and non sex videos,
While cfnm (clothed female, nude male) nearly always leads to sex.

It's true for male strippers. The ladies there are animals compared to female strippers who get treated with the utmost care.

I've gone to strip clubs and 90% of the guys there are very respectful to the naked ladies, usually older men who aren't cunts.

[normalice]

the fact is that most men want to be objectified. As long as that's a pretty well-known common interest among men, guys who complain about other men being objectified will always be perceived as complaining about the "other" more so than the "objectified".

There are, of course, exceptions. But that's not the point.

[HereToProveMyPoint]

Honestly, I don't like double standards, but I think people should be able to express attraction. And that's all this is. I know some people are offended by objectification but is it really wrong? I mean if it happened to me I'd take it as a compliment!

[Gayview_Mahat]

I don't think the majority of people have an issue with it, because we all do it. lol

[Gustafsone12584]

@Gayview_Mahat We all do it, up to a point...

[JSmuve]

I dont' really care about male sexualization because I don't really care about female sexualization. I do it quite liberally and gratuitously depending on who I'm around to be quite honest. But, I do wholeheartedly agree that if we can't sexualize you guys, you can't sexualize us, lest y'all be raging hypocrites. So in conclusion, we should all sexualize eachother. The end.

[scarlett]

I agree, I don't see sexualization as a major problem and don't really care when anyone does it. I just know that tons of women find it disgusting yet many of those women then turn around and do the same thing to men. I just wanted to point out the hypocrisy of it all.

[JSmuve]

Ya I can't stand those sorts of chicks. Hypocrisy is such a turn off

[TerrierSaurus_rex]

I DO NOT THINK YOU KNOW THE MEANING OF "objectification". Objectification is when you are not interested in a person - you just want to use them. So like if you're a woman and you see a mysterious male masseuse perform a sexual massage on a woman and she orgasms and you masturbate and you think you want him to fuck you. That is objectification.

Finding someone attractive is not objectification.

[scarlett]

https://i.imgur.com/3Vv2G6v.png

[TerrierSaurus_rex]

Objectification is pleasurable for the person doing the objectifying but it is objectifying for the person who is being objectified. If I'm a guy and I tell a straight dude that I beat my dick to him or if I'm a girl and I tell him that I want him to say my name while he jerks off, it's really rude. Objectification isn't about the looks. Objectification is basically about saying "you exist for my pleasure".

Masculine looking men are RARELY objectified. Those sexual comments are just an indication of attraction. Being attracted to someone is not the same as objectifying them. Guys and girls show attraction in different ways. If it were three professional women and I was really attracted to them, I might make a different set of comments to indicate my attraction for them. Our choice of words if for the recipients of the words - it's not about literally taking the same phrases and changing male pronouns into female ones.

[jdoe80]

@scarlett it's a vector. Vector's by definition do not depend on location. We can easily imagine a parallel vector in the vector field "crossing" "the point"

[scarlett]

@jdoe80 The point clearly went over your head too.

[jdoe80]

tbh, I didn't read the intake. Neither did I read this opinion. I noticed a picture, I commented on the picture

[lightblueking]

and in that case the women are objectifying the men... they wanna fuck them bc theyre hot and that's it.

[Phoenix98]

We know we are but the difference is we don't care, a lot of guys like it.

Despite what women say they secretly like it as well, the difference being is that they only have a issue with it if the man doing it is unattractive.

That's when it becomes a "social" "feminist" issue.

[animus1988]

exactly. same with the "catcall" video.. Basically if the guy is unattractive they want to be able to scream "RAPE" and "HARASSMENT" but if he's "hot" then its ok. They want to be able to play whatever card suits their interest. this is basically the foundation of feminism; To "empower" women yet absolve them of any guilt and responsibility when it suits their interest

[Phoenix98]

@animus1988 Pretty much.

[animus1988]

and by empower i mean give them power over men

[Phoenix98]

@animus1988 I know what you mean lol.

[mamamai]

Yes it goes both ways and I think both ways are classless acts.

Speaking from experience, objectification does make you feel like an object and not human. It puts me in a state of depression when it happens. It's like all you feel you are good for is looks, when there is so much more to you :(

[hellionthesagereborn]

Of course women objectify men, that's something that should never have had to be stated. While I don't think its necessarily wrong to find people attractive I do think its wrong when we have a double standard where its bad when men do it but women can do it without question (and worse. Their are women out their who think they can grab and grope a guy simply because he is a man and she is a woman).

[sawno]

I don't think people doubt girls do it, they obviously do if the guy is attractive enough. There standards for appearance to sexually objectify are just a LOT higher then men's.

The more interesting difference is that girls typically feel dehumanized when a man looks at them like a sex object. Men are more likely to embrace it and enjoy the fact girls would love to have sex with them but will still end up with a girl who can look past that.

[dude64bro]

Nice take, but most men already know about this. As a guy who has been catcalled, and "sexually assaulted" I've acually lived these double standards.

It really is degrading and those that don't see that haven't experienced it at all or fully yet. You can't really take it as a compliment because what they say was not meant to be a respectful compliment. It's invasive, disgusting, and unclassy. The furthest thing from a compliment.

[wisdom_sharer]

"Is objectification inherently wrong and if so, should it apply to both men and women?" - I don't know is it wrong. I don't think that people think.. enough... so, maybe they objectify out of a habit.
" do the sexual comments by the ladies above bother you?" - I've never seen anything like this before, so I'm bothered by extremely bad timing for this. I don't know if those women are sarcastic or what, but it's so bizarre.

[He-man]

well men really don't give a shit about that. Plus there's not really a fear of men being kidnapped and raped by women. ( Not saying men don't get raped by women. Because they do.) Simply saying its not a constant point of fear for men.

[CollieWinters]

This topic always gets under my skin a little. You're absolutely spot on in your point. Too many people literally do not see objectification as a double standard. I guess it's because men "want to be objectified", which is as much BS as saying "women want to be objectified".

[CasaNorba]

thank you!

I think we men have it worst in this department because obviously we don't just get sexually objectified. we also get socially and economically objectify as well so in the long run we are basically getting treated as less of a human being. but of course we can't complain or put our foot down because if we do we automatically get stereotype a being

- Lame
- Sissy
- Weak
- Pathetic
- Faggots

and the list goes on

[KaDooKan]

I find it odd that when a female teacher has sex with a student (and it happens a lot), all of the comments men put up are like "wish I was in her class" "where was she when I was young" etc... and when the roles are reversed it's like "he needs his dick cut off" etc...

[FatherJack]

In general , men are less desired by women , than vice versa & interestingly both genders overall , consider females to be the attractive , sexy gender. Good post & thank you for pointing out the hypocrisy , if that was men making similar comments about women... the feminists would be demanding these " evil perverted rapists " as they view all men , be publicly executed !!

[lyannamormont]

Equally disgusting to see a member of opposite gender nothing more than a piece of meat to stick and lick.

[Dale1982]

Objectify? What a boring, pc word for attraction. Of course we do. It's natural and healthy. If we stop looking at each other as potential partners for sex and relationships we might as well not bother living any more. We're not robots. Men and women do it. Nobody used to mind until the net started filling with lifelong virgins and bitter folk saying it was wrong and making it an issue

[worldscolide]

Finally someone gets it.. Its just as bad for us, but because its women doing it, its automatically ok. You should also look in to who does the most online harassment and slut shaming. It gets blamed on men, but its mostly women that do it to other women.