Islam = Death Cult? Let's Take a Look at the Facts...

[Political_dude]

This take is completely based on REAL FACTS and isn't meant to discourage or offend anyone. I've seen many people saying Islam is a religion of terrorism. There people who still think that all Muslims are terrorist and vice versa. I'm not gonna debate with you but I want you to see facts about is too.

While writing this take I choose to stay unbiased and hence I'll use some counter facts too and I'll bring another side to your notice as this is STRICTLY AN INFORMATIVE TAKE.

Please note that Author of this take is NON-MUSLIM, I'm Hindu by birth and Atheist by choice.

So here are some facts about terrorism and its connection with Islam. Judging by them, you can reform your opinion and comment down below if you wish.

1) Global Terrorism Index

According to Global Terrorism Index, The countries to suffering the highest impact of Terrorism are the Muslim Majority Countries. The top six countries are Iraq, Afganistan, Nigeria, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen are Muslim majority. Even if you take a look at top ten, these are Muslim countries too except for India but due to its population, even 13 percent population is higher than other countries.

My point in adding this fact is not to tell you that innocent muslims are getting killed you but to tell you that Muslim people are killing their own population too. The terrorist from these countries are Muslims and victims are also Muslims. by the way, our beloved US stands at Thirty-second Position

2) FBI Database for terrorist attacks on US soil 2002 - 2015

You don't need me to explain to you who is FBI. The same FBI has published its Database on terrorism 2002-2005. According to this database, Only 6% of Terrorist attacks in the US were by Islamic Extremist.

With Latino ranking top, Islam inspired attacks rank 4th on this list.

But there is counterpoint for this from my side. Islam is only RELIGION on this list. if you observe this list again, there is no other religion here than Islam.

(image credits: Loonwatch.com)

3) EUROPOL's Data

Europol is a website which publishes an annual report entitled EU Terrorism Situation and Trend Report and much more crime based data.

Concluding from data given by them, 99.6% of terrorist attacks in Europe were by non-Muslim groups; 84.8% of attacks were from separatist groups completely unrelated to Islam. Only a measly 0.4% of terrorist attacks from 2006 to 2008 could be attributed to extremist Muslims.

4) There are More Mass Shootings Done In the US than Terrorist attacks

According to Washington post, 355 Mass Shootings took place in the US alone (2015). Please note that killing more than 4 people is considered a mass shooting.

Some Basic Statistics

Many people do call all Islamic people terrorist. Here are some statistics you need to know before doing so.

There have been 140,000 terror attacks committed worldwide since 1970. Even if Muslims carried out all of these attacks, those terrorists would represent less than 0.00009 percent of all Muslims. It is like a ball in a football stadium.

Our Take ends here. I found a funny but real Image about terrorism and how we discriminate / Judge people based on their religions or race. check it out.

So here we are. I've made my presentation in front of you. This might be confusing which side I'm on but I'm simply unbiased. I think all of the sources I've linked are legit and credible. I hope you like it. :)

And Do mention your views in comment section about this take.

I know I should not disable anon option for this take, I'm disabling it because I don't want a random anon to read mytake and comment *Islam is only cause of terrorism. Fu*k you assho*le * xx

[Being_a_good_Indian]

I agree with @CubsterShura

This take must be in the List of best my takes of Month.

I am not a historian but I can briefly describe what I understand from the history I have studied. The three fundamental factors that helped Islam to spread rapidly in its early days were the following:

1. Islam presented a rational faith that was simple to understand, simple to practice and free from the institution of clergy. It freed people from weird mythologies and cumbersome rituals imposed by other religions as well as from the clutches of the exploitive clergy.

2. Its focus on law, order and justice as well as on the utmost care of general public’s basic human rights, their welfare and establishment of social justice, human equality and human dignity provided relief and redemption to general masses. In tribal areas, it established peace and justice by making all tribes equal, and ending inter-tribal rivalries and wars of revenge. In the areas governed by kings, it liberated people from the tyrannies of kings and emperors. The slaves, the peasants and the downtrodden masses flocked to Islam wherever the Muslims went because of the instant recognition of their human dignity and equality with the so-called elite of their societies. The Islamic tax system for both Muslims and non-Muslims was also very fair and the burden was much lighter as compared to the existing governing structures. The poor were helped from the treasury, instead of being taxed. The public eagerly welcomed this relief and emancipation.

3. The simplicity, honesty, high morals, graciousness, kindness and humbleness that Islam had inculcated in early Muslims, whether caliphs, governors or general public, also played a major role in attracting people to Islam that had made those people into such an excellent individuals.

Then after about two generations, Muslim population started degenerating like all other people and nations, ignoring Islamic commands and attitudes, abandoning the pursuit of excellence. Their caliphs became kings for all intents and purposes, behaving like any other kings of the world. That process of degeneration continued over centuries, making them the way they are now. They will not become better without going back to the basics of Islam that had made them so superb in the first place.

[Being_a_good_Indian]

This is my honest perspective that I have developed on the basis of my studies. I realize that there will be others presenting different views, some may be mistaken, some may be ignorant and some may be outright anti-Islamic.

This Honest Opinion is also written by Hindu ( Religion : Humanity)

[Political_dude]

Thank you :D yeah I had to mention my religion Bc If I didn't, everybody would scream I'm Muslim and that's why I'm writing this take or I'm biased

[Being_a_good_Indian]

That's Good that you had mentioned your Religion. Weakness is what brings ignorance, cheapness, racism, homophobia, desperation, cruelty, brutality, all these things that will keep a society chained to the ground, one foot nailed to the floor. Thanks for joining G@G again.

See you soon.

*Lmao. 🤔😊

[Political_dude]

I don't think I got mention there. Lol. I was checking out your profile and found this reply as most upvoted.

[more2life]

It absolutely is the religion of terrorism. The reason that only 6% of the terrorism on US soil is of Islamic origin is because we're doing a pretty good job at keeping Muslims out. That is why those numbers vary so much. If you look at the terror attacks on a global scale for instance over the past 10 years on Wikipedia... you can see with your own eyes that pretty much over 90% of all terrorist attacks are of Islamic origin.

So while you might have written your mytake to push a counter-narrative, sorry. Facts are facts. If we allowed Muslims to openly immigrate to the US that percentage would go from 6% to 90% and we'd be like Sweden who is now the rxpe capital of the world ever since they let that religion in.

[more2life]

/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents
That is what I'm referring to.

[Political_dude]

Facts are facts. I wrote same thing on start of this take. This mytake isn't written to tell you that Islam isn't religion of terrorism or it is. Instead this is just a presentation of facts

[more2life]

Well, congratulations on writing an unbiased mytake. I'm new here, but I'm guessing that it's rare since you had to open with a disclaimer.

[Political_dude]

Yes it is. Every Islam hater comes just to comment against it. Tbf It is rare to write something unbiased about this issue even on internet. I don't want Islam haters or lovers to write their Shit in opinion section telling me how they're right. That's why I choose to stay unbiased. I accept views of both groups and encourage healthy debate over it

[Being_a_good_Indian]

@more2life

**I'm new here"*

Welcome in G@G community.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@More2life: Straight facts. Nothing but the truth what you said.

[behnam1999]

Israeli soldiers cut pregnant women's stomachs for the sake of "democracy" and "freedom". Jewish communists killed millions of eastern european people in the most horrible ways you can imagine. Many German people, including women and children, were raped and killed when the allies captured Germany because they were Germans and they lived in the National Socialist Germany. Soviets didn't even have mercy for small children, reading through all the witness accounts and evidence makes you hate the hypocrite so-called democratic countries, they just overlooked all these crimes and those people who were killed in agony are forgotten. Nuclear bombs were dropped on two cities of Japan and about 200,000 people were killed and experienced a painful life as a result of radioactive effects. This is for Democracy. It was not even needed, many American military officials at that time agree that it was not needed to drop the bombs on these two cities. The perpetrators were not even punished. Do you really know anything about Lavon affair? the truth about 9/11? Polard affair? USS liberty? Terrorist crimes committed by Israel against the USA, I bet you Americans don't even know about them, in reaction to these crimes they just sent much more money to Israel. All of these crimes are justified by a big lie "the holocaust". I bet you, if you know enough about this lie, no one can really defend it, and you'll be victorious in every discussion about it. ISIS and al-qaeda are inventions of Israel and USA, that so-called "War on terror" is actually "war on humanity", they create the terrorist groups to destabilize the region, what is the goal? So Israel can annex it to its own soil. I recommend you to read Oded Yinon's plan, and you'll see what I'm talking about. In a dirty world like this, do you really want to defend your religion this way? Do brainwashed people really accept it? No, the most effective way is to expose the reality, the Jewish crimes against humanity, their role in black slavery, communism, feminism. All of the world must know about the crimes of these fake democratic countries!

[jacquesvol]

@behnam1999

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[jacquesvol]

@behnam1999
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[behnam1999]

@jacquesvol You can have a discussion with me! I'm confident enough to defend my point of view!

[jacquesvol]

@behnam1999
I know your repetition of unashamed lies since you started posting here.

[behnam1999]

@jacquesvol I can remember that I had discussions with you personally about how Jews started Communism, Holocaust and others. But I can never remember that you could defend your point of view and give me a good response.
If anyone of you here who are reading these comments, think that I'm an unashamed liar, so feel free. Take a step forward and have a discussion with me and prove it, before the eyes of people, that I'm a liar!

[behnam1999]

@jacquesvol Take a look at this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well
And never forget, I'm waiting for people to come forward and have discussion with me and prove that I'm a liar!

[FatherJack]

Nice to see a younger guy not brainwashed by the prevailing Rothschild Cartel owned " media " BS !! Unfortunately most swallow the BS , then ask for more , hence so many Cultural Marxist PC brainwashed mindless drones around now !!

[behnam1999]

@FatherJack But i believe that it will change. Lies may take care of the present, but they don't have any future!

[Chris0012]

Anyone who thinks the dropping of nuclear weapons on Japan in August 1945 was not necessary has very little knowlege of the end of the second world war.

In the defence of Okinawa, a small island, it took over 20,000 US military killed and over 100,000 Japanese dead to subdue the defenders from the invaders in April to July 1945.

Without the dropping of the two nuclear bombs on Hirohishima and Nagasaki, the next phase of the invasion of Japan was to be landings in Kyushu. It is estimated there would have been over 1 million killed in this action alone.

Had the Japanese fought for every inch of their terrortory against the allies, the war would possibly not have ended until the late 1940s, or even after 1950.

The northern half of Japan would have been under Soviet control.

Allied forces would have been redeployed from Europe to the Pacific, and many of them would have then died there.

Those two nuclear bombs stopped all that in the space of a week.

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 I want you to read all of my response.
I recommend you to review the situation of Japan near the end of the war.
Japan already had been defeated militarily by June 1945. Almost nothing was left of the once mighty Imperial Navy, and Japan's air force had been all but totally destroyed. Against only token opposition, American war planes ranged at will over the country, and US bombers rained down devastation on her cities, steadily reducing them to rubble.
What was left of Japan's factories and workshops struggled fitfully to turn out weapons and other goods from inadequate raw materials. (Oil supplies had not been available since April.) By July about a quarter of all the houses in Japan had been destroyed, and her transportation system was near collapse. Food had become so scarce that most Japanese were subsisting on a sub-starvation diet.

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 On the night of March 9-10, 1945, a wave of 300 American bombers struck Tokyo, killing 100,000 people. Dropping nearly 1,700 tons of bombs, the war planes ravaged much of the capital city, completely burning out 16 square miles and destroying a quarter of a million structures. A million residents were left homeless.
On May 23, eleven weeks later, came the greatest air raid of the Pacific War, when 520 giant B-29 "Superfortress" bombers unleashed 4,500 tons of incendiary bombs on the heart of the already battered Japanese capital. Generating gale-force winds, the exploding incendiaries obliterated Tokyo's commercial center and railway yards, and consumed the Ginza entertainment district. Two days later, on May 25, a second strike of 502 "Superfortress" planes roared low over Tokyo, raining down some 4,000 tons of explosives. Together these two B-29 raids destroyed 56 square miles of the Japanese capital.

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 Even before the Hiroshima attack, American air force General Curtis LeMay boasted that American bombers were "driving them [Japanese] back to the stone age." Henry H. ("Hap") Arnold, commanding General of the Army air forces, declared in his 1949 memoirs: "It always appeared to us, atomic bomb or no atomic bomb, the Japanese were already on the verge of collapse." This was confirmed by former Japanese prime minister Fumimaro Konoye, who said: "Fundamentally, the thing that brought about the determination to make peace was the prolonged bombing by the B-29s."
Months before the end of the war, Japan's leaders recognized that defeat was inevitable. In April 1945 a new government headed by Kantaro Suzuki took office with the mission of ending the war. When Germany capitulated in early May, the Japanese understood that the British and Americans would now direct the full fury of their awesome military power exclusively against them.

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 American officials, having long since broken Japan's secret codes, knew from intercepted messages that the country's leaders were seeking to end the war on terms as favorable as possible. Details of these efforts were known from decoded secret communications between the Foreign Ministry in Tokyo and Japanese diplomats abroad.
In his 1965 study, Atomic Diplomacy: Hiroshima and Potsdam (pp. 107, 108), historian Gar Alperovitz writes:
"Although Japanese peace feelers had been sent out as early as September 1944 (and [China's] Chiang Kai-shek had been approached regarding surrender possibilities in December 1944), the real effort to end the war began in the spring of 1945. This effort stressed the role of the Soviet Union... "

[Chris0012]

These conventional raids did not induce the Japanese to surrender, though. It was the dropping of the nucler bombs that induced that.

@benham1999,

Had the Japanese surrendered after the Tokyo raids you outline, a lot of lives would have been saved. There people were prepared to fight for every inch of their terrortory regardless of the cost, as the invasion of Okinawa amply demonstrates.

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012Continued:" In mid-April [1945] the [US] Joint Intelligence Committee reported that Japanese leaders were looking for a way to modify the surrender terms to end the war. The State Department was convinced the Emperor was actively seeking a way to stop the fighting."
It was only after the war that the American public learned about Japan's efforts to bring the conflict to an end. Chicago Tribune reporter Walter Trohan, for example, was obliged by wartime censorship to withhold for seven months one of the most important stories of the war.

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 In an article that finally appeared August 19, 1945, on the front pages of the Chicago Tribune and the Washington Times-Herald, Trohan revealed that on January 20, 1945, two days prior to his departure for the Yalta meeting with Stalin and Churchill, President Roosevelt received a 40-page memorandum from General Douglas MacArthur outlining five separate surrender overtures from high-level Japanese officials. (The complete text of Trohan's article is in the Winter 1985-86 Journal, pp. 508-512.)
This memo showed that the Japanese were offering surrender terms virtually identical to the ones ultimately accepted by the Americans at the formal surrender ceremony on September 2 -- that is, complete surrender of everything but the person of the Emperor.

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 Is this memorandum authentic? It was supposedly leaked to Trohan by Admiral William D. Leahy, presidential Chief of Staff. (See: M. Rothbard in A. Goddard, ed., Harry Elmer Barnes: Learned Crusader [1968], pp. 327f.) Historian Harry Elmer Barnes has related (in "Hiroshima: Assault on a Beaten Foe," National Review, May 10, 1958):
" The authenticity of the Trohan article was never challenged by the White House or the State Department, and for very good reason. After General MacArthur returned from Korea in 1951, his neighbor in the Waldorf Towers, former President Herbert Hoover, took the Trohan article to General MacArthur and the latter confirmed its accuracy in every detail and without qualification."

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 President Truman steadfastly defended his use of the atomic bomb, claiming that it "saved millions of lives" by bringing the war to a quick end. Justifying his decision, he went so far as to declare: "The world will note that the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, a military base. That was because we wished in this first attack to avoid, insofar as possible, the killing of civilians."
This was a preposterous statement. In fact, almost all of the victims were civilians, and the United States Strategic Bombing Survey (issued in 1946) stated in its official report: "Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen as targets because of their concentration of activities and population."
If the atomic bomb was dropped to impress the Japanese leaders with the immense destructive power of a new weapon, this could have been accomplished by deploying it on an isolated military base. It was not necessary to destroy a large city.

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 And whatever the justification for the Hiroshima blast, it is much more difficult to defend the second bombing of Nagasaki.
There were many critical voices (Very well-known figures) that condemned the use of Nuclear bombs and recognized it as a crime against humanity, if you want, I can tell you all of them. You justify the crime, but have you ever thought about those people who went through a life of agony and pain caused by the effects of that two bombs. How can you end a war by killing innocent people (However Japanese were not that idiot to continue the war with the allies, they know that defeat was near, so their efforts to surrender completely make sense, see all that evidence)? There's no justification. It was a crime against humanity, and the perpetrators were never punished. The real purpose of bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki is obvious. It was a nuclear test, but a nuclear test on innocent people, that children were among them too. Is living in japan a crime?

[Chris0012]

The second world war was a nasty business all round. The Japanese people were racist fanatics of the first order.

It seems you would prefer millions of allied dead-and additional of millions of Japanese dead as well, to two enemy cities having nuclear weapons dropped on them. And with no doubt whatsoever, the Japanese would have fought on for a long while ahter their home islands were invaded.

How about the suffering of Japanese occupied South East Asia and China? Countless millions would have also perished in these countries had they remained under Japanese occupation any longer.

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 First, I'm talking about the Hiroshima and Nagasaki. If you want to change the topic, I can too. What about those Jewish Communists who killed about 20 to 40 million people of eastern Europe and UK and US didn't even have sympathy with them, of course it is for "Democracy".
Second, more people were killed under the name of equality and democracy than racism. America was the country which provoked Japan to attack pearl harbor. They wanted an excuse to enter the war, which I can talk about it if you want, of course FDR was a hypocrite. So even the war with Japan was initiated by the US. If you don't have any idea of what I'm talking about, that's because Jewish monsters are controlling your media, and the truth never comes out of a "Jew".
Third, as I said before, Japanese people are not that stupid. We can even say that the yellow race is one of the smartest races in the world. There is no truth in this claim that they were trying to continue war with the allies.

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 Japanese knew that their defeat was near. One must be really stupid, when he knows that their death is near, their defeat is near and still continues the war. We fight for hope and for a goal, we have motivation for a fight, what was the Japanese goal to continue the war when his allies Germany and Italy were defeated? What they were going to gain? All the world was certain that Japan would be destroyed if they continued the war. It is absurd to believe such thing, just think about it. Is it logical? If someone is really racist, so why he should do sth that destroys his race? Only an ignorant person can believe this. Even if the government tried to continue the war, many internal conflicts would occur that could endanger the position of the king. No American soldier was going to be killed.
Those Japanese children didn't have the right to live? Why didn't they drop the bombs on military bases? What is the justification for the second bombing?

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 The U. S. Strategic Bombing Survey group, assigned by President Truman to study the air attacks on Japan, produced a report in July of 1946 that concluded (52-56):
"Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey’s opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945 and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated."
www.barnesandnoble.com/.../1003749850

General (and later president) Dwight Eisenhower (He is a well-known military figure) – then Supreme Commander of all Allied Forces, and the officer who created most of America’s WWII military plans for Europe and Japan – said:
"The Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing."

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 Source that confirms Eisenhower's quote:
en.wikipedia.org/.../...er_of_Dwight_D._Eisenhower

Eisenhower also noted (pg. 380):
"In [July] 1945… Secretary of War Stimson, visiting my headquarters in Germany, informed me that our government was preparing to drop an atomic bomb on Japan. I was one of those who felt that there were a number of cogent reasons to question the wisdom of such an act. …the Secretary, upon giving me the news of the successful bomb test in New Mexico, and of the plan for using it, asked for my reaction, apparently expecting a vigorous assent."

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 Eisenhower continues:"During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of ‘face’. The Secretary was deeply perturbed by my attitude…."
Source:
www.amazon.com/.../B000OLC3HI

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 Admiral William Leahy – the highest ranking member of the U. S. military from 1942 until retiring in 1949, who was the first de facto Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and who was at the center of all major American military decisions in World War II – wrote (pg. 441):
"It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons.
The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are frightening. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children."
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_D._Leahy

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 General Douglas MacArthur agreed (pg. 65, 70-71):
"MacArthur’s views about the decision to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were starkly different from what the general public supposed …. When I asked General MacArthur about the decision to drop the bomb, I was surprised to learn he had not even been consulted. What, I asked, would his advice have been? He replied that he saw no military justification for the dropping of the bomb. The war might have ended weeks earlier, he said, if the United States had agreed, as it later did anyway, to the retention of the institution of the emperor."
Source:
www.amazon.com/.../0393305414

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 Moreover (pg. 512):

" The Potsdam declaration in July, demand[ed] that Japan surrender unconditionally or face ‘prompt and utter destruction.’ MacArthur was appalled. He knew that the Japanese would never renounce their emperor, and that without him an orderly transition to peace would be impossible anyhow, because his people would never submit to Allied occupation unless he ordered it. Ironically, when the surrender did come, it was conditional, and the condition was a continuation of the imperial reign. Had the General’s advice been followed, the resort to atomic weapons at Hiroshima and Nagasaki might have been unnecessary."
Source:
www.amazon.com/.../0316024740

[behnam1999]

@Chris0012 There are many many other officials that agree with this, it takes a long to quote them all. Unfortunately, whether you like it or not, it is a dirty crime against humanity committed by the US, even American military figures agree with what I said. In a fair court Americans can never come out innocent. Of course, this is a dirty world led by hypocrites, if there was any justice they would be punished for a crime against humanity.

[jacquesvol]

atomic weapons at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were necassary to scare Stalin, not to make Japan surrender.

[jacquesvol]

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[behnam1999]

@jacquesvol Stalin was a mass murderer too, just like Harry S. Truman!

[jacquesvol]

Both Stalin and Truman started as religious people.
I don't know if they stayed religious. (Stalin started Roman Catholic, ended cooperating with the Orthodox Curch)

[behnam1999]

@jacquesvol Mass murderer is a mass murderer, whether he is religious or not, however a person who is really faithful to God can't be a mass murderer.
People who support communism fall into two categories they are simply ignorant or a bunch of monsters!

[hellionthesagereborn]

Islam is not a inherently violent religion anymore then any other religion. The issue however is that the middle east has bred a culture of violence, mainly because of political instability which creates power vacuums (which of course those who wish to have power want to fill (this is why most of the violence stays within their own country). These groups use violence outside of their nation as a way to legitimize their strength, a way of saying they struck the "mighty west" and made us fear them thus they must in turn be a group worth fearing in their own countries. The other issues are economic and infrastructural collapse, this has pushed people into a position where they value security over all else so they will side with whom ever they believe will provide it (which again is exploited by these groups) and in turn they blame the west (half truth. We did over throw governments and did cause a lot of damage in the middle east HOWEVER the middle east was already beginning to weaken thanks to the fall of the ottoman empire and the reason why the west, especially the US got involved in the middle east to begin with was to stop Stalin and the USSR. They had mass murdered many people, taken over many countries and they where a huge danger to the world (ask any country that was formally occupied by them (for instance the reason why the previous pope John Paul did not persecute priest who where sexually molesting children was probably because this is what the soviets would accuse priest of in soviet occupied Poland (when John Paul was a kid) in order to destroy any influence they may have had (as they where usually the center of the community) preventing a potential backlash against them)). So that is also the reason why they target the west. However as you pointed out that's not all muslims, in fact its a small group. That said we should not let our guard down either. For instance in Europe they found that 50% of all rapes/gang rapes where done by afghan reffugees. The reason was because they looked down on the west, they looked at us as if we where weak (which to be fair its hard to argue when many of these countries refuse to stand up to them to the point where their are no go zones where even the police will not enter that are controlled by these muslim refugees, their rape is excused as being "culturally differences" even though its illegal to rape most anywhere and its so bad that one victim even apologized to her rapists.)

[hellionthesagereborn]

However this has nothing to do with Islam in and of itself and that needs to be noted. The problem is both sides are taking the wrong approach, the right is blaming all of Islam which we know is not only not true but they are ostricising people who would otherwise be allies to us (look at turkey which has a lower crime rate in all catagories comparative to most western countries, laws banning the hijab in certain proffesions and is seculer and very much anti communist and anti terrorist. They are surrounded by ideological enemies and would make a great alley for the US but we tend to ignore them because they happen to be muslim) meanwhile the left is pretending like their is no problem at all to the point where they won't hold some one accountable if they happen to be non white. Both extremes are going to be damaging.

[topi_tonge]

In fact i believe, religion is the worst thing. Especially when u real comments of people blaming each other

#Humanity

No religion is a support​ terrorism.

Its the false perception of people.

For example, A person says that Hinduism supports war

Second exple,
A person says that Goddess Kalu loves a killed person to be offered to her

Islam good. it is just perception of people. What cam anybody do if they are taking wrong things from good things mentioned.

There is a complete book written on terrorism and Islam "Dark Side of Islam". It emphasizes on the issue in a detailed way

Well, then we can also see things like "Women are snakes " in hindi scripture

People even say that it is a bad side of Hinduism that Vishnu is considered a hero when he rapes a woman.

Ell e should take good good things out of everything.

Like Christianity and hindu scriptures ,, Islam is also related to science

Things like water cycle also mentioned in the Quran.

No religion support evil activities like terrorism. These are only Islamic extremists who forced and killed people for conversion in history.
Hope this should not happen in future

After reading so many comments on religion, I tguess, he 4th world war will be for religion. .

But certain things in Islam need reform as I believe.
I mean, god is one. isf i mot calling him Allah then i k not an animal lol

If such things Tain there, then how will respect other religions?

If Bible keeps on saying that it is the only way to God then I think these things are wrong

[Political_dude]

Tbf every religion does that as it is important to kill other religions to make own religion strong ( common ideology) hence you'll find it every religion is ordering to kill non followers

[D_Bone_Steak]

I guess it would be called an atheist revolution... westerners as a whole had to get rid of what was standing in the way of science research and basic concepts like evolution and dinosaurs... no the world is not flat. Those retards still exist without their religion... and still sound crazy.

Here though... we have a religion that is based off of being a highway robber. War basically. Their countries economies are welfare states that would eat themselves if we'd stop buying oil.

Fanatical Jihad is the gasps of a drowning mindset system set in place by a child molesting blood thirsty old man that thinks he talks to angels and can't even read or write about it himself... a religion based off a guys life where he was having to hide from people and sacrifice family members... he was a ghetto 50 cent of his time... not exactly a great religion unless you think the rants of homeless people have tons of merit.

Thus a religion with a different set of retardations. It doesn't just get in the way of being able to acknowledge dinosaurs, it gets in the way of anything outside of expansion through war and deceit.

[HamAndCheese]

1. Well that's cool and all but let's not bring their problems over here and make it our problem.

2. Did you read the report yourself or did you just use that website's image? The site itself seems to have a very clear bias on the subject, and of course the chart only accounts for the US.

3. I looked on the site and couldn't find these tables, could you please update that link?

4. This is just a wordplay thing because logically any terrorist attack committed with a gun would likely be a mass shooting. Furthermore, most of those mass shootings are gang related. Finally, it's kind of comparing apples and oranges.

As for the statistics, how did you come to that number? The image is really just a strawman.

I appreciate your efforts to bring light to an issue, but the fact of the matter is that this religion offers comparably little in comparison to many others, has not undergone any real reform, is responsible for terrorist attacks at a significantly higher rate than other religions, and is connected to things like anti-semitism, child abuse, and abuse of women. Consider, for instance, that many Arab nations didn't outlaw slavery until the 1960s. No, not the 1860s, the 1960s. I'll sum this up by saying this: what you've said is fine and all, but it proposes no real solutions for very real problems. Getting Islam out of the West, while certainly overly broad, and heavy handed, is a better solution for Islamic terrorism than just saying, "not all X." You've said a lot but unless you propose a solution yourself, well... it's just food for though.

[RidingForever2]

You are not paying good enough attention my friend. The more terrorist attacks increase in a certain country, the more conversions there are in that region to Islam. It doesn't matter if they were Christians, atheists or agnostic. We can see that in the middle east, in America right after 9/11 and now we see it in Europe.

Another crucial thing you are forgetting is that Muslims whom advocate for Islam adapt their strategy according to how much Islamic terrorism there is in that place. If there is more Islamic terrorism and the people are scared, they stress to the people how much they need Islam, and so the people convert.

Historically we can see the same with the Islamic mass genocides in Turkey of the ethic Turks that followed Tengrism. The same we can see in Persia with the people that followed Zoroastrianism. We can see the same with the Afghani and Pakistani peoples that were Buddhists. I bet you didn't know there were Buddhists in the middle east in the first place didn't you? They were all genocided by Muslims over the course of history. Muslims keep silent about these genocides because they are not allowed to speak badly of Islam.

[BoySittingOnTheMoon]

The Turks in Turkey never followed Tengrism. In central Asia yes, but they weren't forceful. I'll teach the history. The Abbasid caliphate launched an attack against Tang Dynasty in Transoxiana (modern day Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan) and Chinese responded this attack by making massacres in Turkic cities which didn't try to stop this invasion. After this massacre, a huge force of Karluk Turks changed sides and joined Muslims. Chinese lost the battle and Karluks choosed to convert Islam after an agreement about their autonomy. They founded a state, named Karahanlı and became a major power in Central Asia. That's how the Turks began to convert to Islam after their tribal leaders convert to Islam. Just like the Seljuk Turks who converted to Islam or the Mongols. Thus, the Turks, culture, economy flourished and enabled them to expand to Turkey.

[BoySittingOnTheMoon]

Also, there was no Buddhists in the middle east. Afghanistan and Pakistan is not in the middle east. This shows your lack of knowledge. If you want me to talk about how Afghanistan and Pakistan or Iranian or anywhere around the world converted to Islam, simply ask.

[AlphaGhost]

There were no buddhists in Middle East, Pakistan, afghanistan or Iraq idiot and it shows your incompetence about the facts. I am from the area you mentioned to know that if there were buddhists there would their temples and Force conversion of armies is Christianity way of spreading like the one they do the Vikings heathen army. Now there is no one forcing Islam in non-Muslims countries but still Islam is spreading in Europe and Asia cuz its truth and truth never dies but your humanoid creation Christianity is losing.

[RolandCuthbert]

I firmly believe that India and China will rule the world economy over the next century. The west is floundering and failing in a soup of weirdness, nationalism, and ineptitude.

This how a "take" is supposed to be done. It is full of factual information. Just truckloads of actual pertinent statistics. Then it looks at the data and draws reasonable conclusions. Like the one we have talked about for decades, why is it that non-"Whites" are the only ones who commit violence based on some group influence? Muslims are influenced by their religion. "Blacks" by their culture. The same for Latinos, etc.

"White" people cannot draw negative influence from their culture nor their religion. Any wrongdoing they do, can only be blamed on some unique mental or emotional problem. Sometimes non-"White" influences are blamed too.

Thank you for this. Facts are important to discussion. But I am sure you will receive responses based on how someone "feels" about this take.

[Naydyonov]

The west is highly non nationalistic. However current events are pushing more people to nationalism.

[more2life]

You are racist against whites. I can tell by the way you put the word white is deconstructionist quotation marks... yet you spell out every other race and to not attempt to deconstruct their identity with the same type of quotes. It's okay to be white. White is beautiful.

[more2life]

You are willing to call Latinos Latinos without feeling the need to disrespect their identity like this : "Latinos" as if they don't exist or are not allowed to identify as such.
It goes like this: Whites, Blacks, East Asians, Latinos, Arabs, West Asians, Southeast Asians.

[Political_dude]

@RolandCuthbert No argument against you Bc I completely agree with your response

[Chris0012]

China will by itself.

The amount of money on the eastern seaboard of that country is just something else.

China is already the largest source on outbound tourists in the world.

[jacquesvol]

We live in a post fact society Thus you can use alternative facts, like the Great Leader does.

[more2life]

@jacquesvol "Alternative facts like the great leader"? Obama isn't president anymore, dude.

[jacquesvol]

@more2life You're really late to realize that. I know that since a year.

[RolandCuthbert]

@Naydyonov No, it is highly nationalistic and now it is pushing towards extremism. It would seem a war that nearly destroyed all humankind was not enough. I guess the West is determined to get it right this time.

[RolandCuthbert]

@more2life Yawn, you can think whatever you will. I use the same quotes when I talk about "Whites" or "Blacks", because it is silly to think the groups were created based on skin color. As for your pride in being "White", good for you.

And good luck.

[RolandCuthbert]

@more2life That second post was nonsense. Feel free to try again.

[Naydyonov]

no it is not. Nationalism cannot exist in a country with Diversity.
Not in a Country like America or Canada where people don't even know who a True American/Canadian is.

You want to see nationalism then see Poland. They protect themselves.

[RolandCuthbert]

@Naydyonov But it does exist in America. I can't speak for Canada. But "White" nationalism does exist here. We have had an ongoing debate about what it means to be an American for decades perhaps even centuries. I believe that being an American is about embracing certain ideals.

A lot of other "Americans" disagree with that.

I have heard about the situation in Poland. But in reality it is spreading everywhere.

I didn't expect for this conversation to become very sophisticated. You have my thanks.

[Naydyonov]

Yes I agree with this. However I hadn't even heard of white nationalism until around a year ago. Until them it was a completely foreign concept to most people I encountered.
Now however I know many people who either knowingly or unknowingly fall into this category and I ask them why, most say that they're sick of being blamed for all the problems in their country because of the fact that they're white.

For example among Jewish-European classmates they were saying "why the fuck should we say sorry or have to pay compensation to blacks? So what if I'm white, no one in my family ever had slaves. Just because I'm white doesn't make me automatically guilty of this shit".

And you know what, they give up. They say fuck this and believe it'd be easier to just unify all whites.

[RolandCuthbert]

@Naydyonov But I don't know what to say to that. I never have. If a person feels they are forced to give everything to "Black" people, what do you do with that?

On the other side the only sizeable force for "Black" nationalism that exists in the U. S. is the Nation of Islam.

[Naydyonov]

Black nationalism doesn't exist because as a group they don't strive to anything.
Europeans and North Americans are much more close nit then Africans and Blacks are/

[RolandCuthbert]

@Naydyonov Of course. But race is only a uniting factor for "Whites". No other "racial" group has that kind of unity. Not the "Yellow", the "Red", nor the "Black".

I think it is quite evident that race only defines two groups, "White" and non-"White".

But the NOI is the failed attempt at that unity.

[Naydyonov]

well it's because White countries have similar religions, languages, cultures, looks, political beliefs.
Yes they may vary, but the core remains the same.

Other races are just currently unable to overcome some of their differences on an individual basis

[jacquesvol]

@Naydyonov Do you REALLY think Russia is similar to W Europe or Canada or America?

[more2life]

@jacquesvol You are the one that is late to realize that, not me. Based on what you were saying you think "ALTERNATIVE FACTS OBAMA" is still president.

[jacquesvol]

@more2life Don't tell me what I think: that's a strawman fallacy

[more2life]

Race is real. Race matters. Race is the foundation of identity.

If the terms White and Black bother you so much then surely you would rather refer to them as Caucasoid and Negroid since those are their technical names... As well as Mongoloid and Australoid.

[more2life]

That would leave Hispanics/Latinos/Mexicans/South Americans, etc. without a race, though. They are technically mixed-race. A mostly Caucasoid/Mongoloid/Negroid mix to be precise.

[RolandCuthbert]

@Naydyonov Uhm nah. I don't think "White" nations have any more real unity than non-"White" ones. I travel to Europe pretty often. I guess I need to take the time to really get detailed about what I am trying to say.

In Europe, race isn't as strong an issue. Of course, Europeans are becoming more nationalistic and nationalism actually runs in a different direction than race. In the USA well, the "White" ethnic identity is not as well defined. People don't strongly identify with being Italian, French, etc. Race then becomes the defacto standard. I have run into racism in Europe. But I have to say, it is just a totally different experience than running into racism in America.

As for other non-"White" nations, race never made any sense. That's why there was never any "unity". Because there was no basis to unite other than the external force of racism itself. African-Americans are the most united group of "Blacks" on the planet.

But that's only because we are in America.

[RolandCuthbert]

@more2life No, it matters to you. And if you are in a position of power, people need to know that. That's the extent of the supposed racial reality. In terms of how I deal with people on an everyday basis, I have to routinely go far beyond race to understand and relate to them. I have to do that with my American Indian friends. Because beyond being American Indian, they may be part Sioux or Apache, or Blackfeet or whatever. I have to do that with my Asian friends because they may be Chinese, Hmong, or Indian. And even with my "White" friends because they maybe Greek, Russian or Austrian.

Race is real for you and for those who think like you. And we have to recognize you have right to believe in that falsehood.

[RolandCuthbert]

@more2life Without a race?

What in the world are you talking about? I don't have a "race". I have a culture.

[Naydyonov]

@jacquesvol In many ways it is.
Indo-European language, Christian religion, secular state.

Where there is a difference tends to have to do with politics.

However Russians get along quite easily with Europeans and North Americans, at least they used to.

Now however the attitude has changed. Most Russians just stopped caring about what happens to Western Europeans and North Americans because they see many of the problems being brought on themselves. The problem with migrants, with terrorism, etc.

But, a Russian and American are still much closer than an African American and an African.

[jacquesvol]

@more2life white is just a lack of skin pigmentation. That's all there's to it.

[jacquesvol]

@more2life There's only ONE race: the human race. Labeling people by skin color is like dividing the world in long and short people or green eyed, brown eyed , blue eyed people. Or people wearing shoes size 5 , people wearing shoes size 6 , people wearing shoes size 7 ,

[more2life]

@jacquesvol nonsense. Denial of scientific facts.

[RolandCuthbert]

@Naydyonov Hey, think what you have to think. If "Whites" were so united, how did the Soviet Union collapse along strictly ethnic lines? I go to Eastern Europe all the time. I have traveled through the Baltic states and there is absolute disdain for Russia and Russians in the nations I have traveled. I have been to places in Europe where animosity still lives on because of WWII. But that is as it should be.

And of course, I agree that race makes no sense to Africans and members of the African diaspora.

[Naydyonov]

That's because of Politics.
But take an Asian and a white guy and any 2 white guys and I think it's obvious who'll have more in common.

Yeah another there is that they put all the blame on Russia because it was the cleanest way to put the situation.

[DaTruth01]

facts?
your facts are laughable my friend, they are as accurate as my equation to launch a rocket into space... hint : i suck at math and physics.

the religion itself encourages violence, and all these stastistics are either outdated or way too biased, just go live in france for a year and see how its like there.

[Political_dude]

Even if you're bad at maths and physics, Equation for launching rocket simple. You just need to calculate escape velocity XD

[DaTruth01]

i suck at that as well

[TripleAce]

Not that simple lol
How will you construct a rocket in the first place that is even capable of escaping earth's gravity lol

[Political_dude]

@TripleAce that's simple. first you give it conical shape then you fill it with tons of fuel in a specific way, and then you ignite it. This way you can create the simplest rocket of all without the need of advanced technology. Although it'll have random projectile it can still escape earth's gravitational.

[TripleAce]

Oh everything is simple right lol
What about all the electrical and software in the rocket lol
Engine? How do you make a rocket engine hahah

Without a phd in engineering forget it lol

[Political_dude]

@TripleAce I said simple rocket lol. The way I said rocket can be made but with random projectile. Other things you've mentioned are of different use and mainly to maintain projectile of it. My rocket will be practically useless lol

[TripleAce]

😂😂
Alrighty there kiddo... you won this one... lol
True a simple rocket isn't so bad

[Political_dude]

@TripleAce We're discussing rocket science on a terrorism vs Islam thread lol can't believe it. einstein would be proud of us lol

[AllThatSweetJazz]

Latino terrorism? What?
Jewish extremists? What?

What per are the percentages of terrorist activity relative to population size in each country?

Also you need to be able to make a *really* strong point if you're going to use data that's older than 3 years. All this terrorist activity has only boiled up again since 2015.

[Political_dude]

I agree. But recent stats aren't released yet

[more2life]

Wikipedia has an international "List of Terrorist Incidents" that has been compiled for years. Most are Muslim. Vast majority.

[TripleAce]

It doesn't matter how many Americans kill each other
Usually the people prefer to deal with domestic issues themselves... and are more resilient to foreign attackers...
-> Muslims have been killing muslims long before ISIS was formed... Shia and sunni war over control of the regions and some believe Ali was the prophet and the others believe it's Muhammed.. just cause they wanna kill each other doesn't mean it's ok for non muslims to die...1 is too many

And remember
A gang related shooter barely destroys the confidence of the people --> 2 100 story buildings collapsing... well, we still feel the damage done from that over 10+ years ago
--> It's less about the severity of the attacks... when someone like the las Vegas shooter goes nuts or the church shooters in texas - Americans feel they have failed... the system has failed them HOWEVER when a islamic attack occurs, people feel they are being attack and are at war!

very different lol...

[macix670]

I encourage everyone to google search the website, thereligionofpeace. com

Islamic terrorist attacks have been going on even before the US invaded/interfered in the Middle East.

Islam is unlike other religions because Islam advocates a political system aka Sharia law.

[jacquesvol]

I know that site: it's committed to fighting Islam

[Mrzero001]

"Islamic terrorist attacks have been going on even before the US invaded/interfered in the Middle East."

please don't say this infront of middle Eastern child he will laugh at you

[macix670]

@Mrzero001 He's too busy learning to be a suicide bomber like his father.

[behnam1999]

See what Talmud (Jewish book) says:
"Only Jews are human. [Gentiles] are animals." (Baba Mezia 114a-
114b.)(Talmud. (1935). Soncino Edition)
"For murder, whether of a Cuthean [Gentile] by a Cuthean, or of an Israelite by a Cuthean, punishment is incurred; but of a Cuthean by an Israelite, there is no death penalty." (Sanhedrin 57a)(Talmud, Sanhedrin (1935). Soncino Edition. p.388)
"Even the best of the [Gentiles] should be killed." ( Babylonian Talmud)(Funk And Wagnalls Jewish Encyclopedia. (1907). Gentile. New York. p.617)
"If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there." (Moed Kattan 17a.)(Talmud. (1935). Baba Mezia. Soncino Edition. 114a-114b)
"Gentiles’ flesh is as the flesh of asses and whose issue is like the issue of horses."(Funk And Wagnalls Jewish Encyclopedia. (1907). Gentile. New York. p.621)

[behnam1999]

"If a heathen [Gentile] hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting
a Jew is hitting God." (Sanhedrin 58b.)(Talmud, Sanhedrin (1935). Soncino Edition. 58b. p.398)
"If a Jew finds an object lost by a heathen [Gentile] it does not have to be returned." (Baba Mezia 24a; Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b.)(Talmud, Baba Kamma. (1935). Soncino Edition. p.666)
"What a Jew obtains by theft from a Cuthean [Gentile] he may keep." (Sanhedrin 57a.)(Talmud, Sanhedrin (1935). Soncino Edition. 57a. p.388)
"[Gentiles] are outside the protection of the law and God has ‘exposed their money to Israel.’" (Baba Kamma 37b.)(Talmud, Baba Kamma. (1935). Soncino Edition. 37b)
"Jews may use lies (‘subterfuges’) to circumvent a [Gentile]." (Baba Kamma 113a.)(Talmud, Baba Kamma. (1935). Soncino Edition. p.664-665)
"All [Gentile] children are animals." (Yebamoth 98a.)(Talmud, Yebamoth. (1936). Soncino Edition. 98a)
Please compare it with Quran.

[behnam1999]

Please bring a verse from Quran that consists words that are as dirty as the words that have come out of Jewish minds!
At least, even if you say that Quran is not a book from God and Mohammad has written it all, you have to accept that his mind was not as dirty as the Jewish minds. Never forget Deir Yasin, Jews cut the pregnant women's stomachs there. No Persian soldier has ever done this. Their terrorist leader, Menachem Begin later became the prime minister of Israel and received "Noble Peace Prize". He was not even punished.
We like our culture, we don't want homosexuality and adultery in our societies, and it is not just because of Islam, because of our ancient culture and our national values, there is no trace of corrupt in it and we like to preserve it.

[jacquesvol]

@Mrzero001
Kitchener was fighting Egypt and Sudan , some 125 years ago.
Napoleon was fighting Egypt about 200 years ago.

[Mrzero001]

@maxcix670
Haha a proof you are ignorant most -if not all - of terrorists who attacked western community are not a middle Eastern people

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Islam been at war with everyone since its inception 1500 years ago. Those are facts.

[jacquesvol]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Christianity has been at war with everyone who isn't Christian since Constantine converted 1700 years ago. Fact.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@jacquesvol: Dude you seriously stupid.

[AlphaGhost]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy and Christians bible advocate them to force their religion on people by force conversions like that of "Vikings invader". NATO only have 700 Million population but the remaining 6.9 billion population is cool with Islam so take your ideology somewhere else.

There has been no terrorist attacks in region before West started interfering in the Middle East but I will recommend the US to remember the defeat of Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Vietnam, Korea and Afghanistan before commenting on anyone. Us lose every war after the ww2 but we are forced to believe here that "We are immortal" look at our track record, Muslims always win even with donkeys vs our tanks cuz TRUTH never lose idiots.
I think you are intelligent enough to understand that your doesn't know about the bad affects of alcohol but a high school kid does, pork meat cause cancer but your God don't know about it. Bible and Jesus never said "HE is God but here you make him one. You want't to me give you example.

[jacquesvol]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy an insult is NOT an argument in a discussion. An ad hominem is a fallacy.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@jacquesvol: Dude you ride Islam's balls more than a Muslim himself. You do realize the god of Islam that you don't believe in it's going to fry you in hell forever as the Qur'an teaches, yet you love and defend Islam as a athiest? Smh

[jacquesvol]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy the god of Islam is the same as the Judaic and the Christian god. Same god, partly different religions and legends.
Since I'm atheist, I don't believe in anything of all that.
media.giphy.com/media/26hpKJT9yAl8RPiQE/giphy.gif

[AlphaGhost]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Lol, Islam is not incomplete and piece of troll religion like yours idiot. Let me educate on Islam system on "Day of Judgement"
1) Before the advent of Islam there were 1 lak+ prophets and every being that followed their prophet in that time before the advent of next prophet like peophet Ishaq to Ibrahim is Muslim and will go to Heaven,
2) The Christians/Jews before the advent of the Islam/Christianity will go to heaven and every person following the last real prophet and his religion (he known) and he has not learn about the next prophet will go to heaven but if he have and proved but opt to bad side. He will be punished.
3) The Christian/jew/follower of real prophet that have not heard about the Islam will go to heaven and even if he have heard about Islam but not in a good sense or its not proved to you will go heaven or decided by GOD but every human once in a life will know in its heart that the Islam or the other prophet is real religion.

[AlphaGhost]

but still he will opt to bad side and fall desire will go to HELLLLLLLLLL.
You will decide your own fate one day and it will be proved to you otherwise but you will give in bad side by your own willl get you to HELLLLL, so that you can't lie to GOD and say I have not given Chance but in the mean time WE MUSLIMS will be punished for putting bad image of Islam in front of non-Muslims by serving its punishment in the Hell.
STILL the non-Muslims who is good person and still being non-Muslims his Goods habits outweight his sins will not go to Heaven or Hell but a middle place b/w both that is not good like heaven and not bad like Hell.
Its wrong to call anyone will go to hell even the non-Muslims with out their track record or WHO the Hell we are judge, its the GOD Job and He knows WHAT HE WILL DO.
this is real Sharia law or Islamic system and those suicide bombers are ticket straight to hell.

[Metaanio]

@AlphaGhost In old testament there is all kind of cruelty. Blaming religion is as stupid excuse and actually creates more extremists.

[RationalMale]

It's really interesting to see how violence makes people respect a group.

People like to compare Islam to the Crusades. Because Christianity is weak today, they pretend to ignore 1. The Crusades happened centuries ago. 2. It was literally a response to islamic warfare. Even during the days of Colonial America, islamic armies posed serious threats to the survival of Europe.

Not to mention, those charts about how islam is responsible for so few terror attacks and such few killings? They always ignore 9/11, and they usually label things like the Fort Hood Massacre and Pulse Massacre in Orlando as workplace violence or such. AKA those charts are just lies.

[Berethor]

Well the islamic terrorists sure not forget to yell 'allahu akbar' when they killing.

www.thereligionofpeace.com/.../attacks.aspx

[FakeName123]

Point 2 and 3 are simply wrong.

For point 2) you say that islam is the only religion on this list while right next to it is jewish extremism. Additionally you fail to put those numbers in relation. 6% is low. 6% of a minority that is only 1% of the total population isn't low anymore.

For point 3 you take a date that ends 2008 when the islamic-motivated terror-attacks started only fairly recently. Essentially you are cherry-picking a timeframe.

[FakeName123]

Quick google search you can find the 2016 data here: www.europol.europa.eu/.../european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-te-sat-2016

Page 23: From 2011 to 2015 the number of islamic, religiously inspired suspects being arrested increased by over 5 times.

Page 44 gives off the same graph you have posted. Especially in combination with the next page you can see that the "not specificed" are mostly from the UK who doesn't specify at all and thus need to be substracted as these could have any motivation.
What you are left with are 104 attacks. 17 islamic motivated, 13 left-wing motivated, 9 right-wing motivated and 65 seperatists. Thats a good 17% of terroristic attacks in the EU.

[FakeName123]

It gets more spicey on 47-48 where actual court-results and convictions are listed.

Everyone can make up their own mind on that. But islamic motivated terrorism is definitely not as low as you are describing it by any means.

[Chris0012]

The religion has been perverted by sick individuals in a similar manner as Germany was in the Nazi era. These individuals present a clear and present danger to every one outside their warped clique.

These individuals need to be wiped out down to the last person with utterly no quarter given.

The same may also have to apply to their fellow travellers, who are mainly communist and socialist supporters seeking to undermine Western society. This is particularly so in many Western European countries.

[Berethor]

How a religion that was created by a mass murderer can be perverted?

www.thereligionofpeace.com/.../...of-muhammad.aspx

[jacquesvol]

@Berethor Moses was a mass murderer too. And
Total number killed by God in the Bible
- Using biblical numbers only: 2,821,364
- With estimates: 25 million
dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.be/.../...-bible.html
That site details it, verse by verse.

[jacquesvol]

@Berethor I know that site. One othose aanti moslim jihad sites

[Water_Bottle]

Doesn't #1 just prove that civil war is violent and war in general is political? In fact the most interesting thing about this MyTake is that it ignores the largest glaring problem with the whole argument:

People tend to kill other people over political views. Religiously motivated murder is extraordinarily rare and of course the largest groups are going to have the most kills and of course Islam is about 1/3 of the planet coupled with it's Abrahamic cousins.

[Political_dude]

If you read the take or it's title, I'm showing you facts with related to Islam plus terrorism. What you're saying is exactly my point. Religiously motivated murder is rare

[DonkeyRick69]

I dont agree that Islam is a death cult i just believe the middle East is still stuck in the middle ages culturally.

[lyannamormont]

I almost stopped reading after the inconsistency between "if you observe this list again, there is no other religion here than Islam" vs. the graph showing Jewish extremism.

What is Judaism? Potato type? Or a toothpaste brand?

But I did read, good research.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Mass shooting happen all the time in the city of Chicago with gangs. However, let's be real ISIS and other terror groups are the real face of Isalm.

Islam and it's radical weirdos are the only ones that blow people up at a concert or run down with a truck random strangers riding a bike in the city of NYC.

[CubsterShura]

This has to be in the list of best myTakes next month!

[Political_dude]

Thank you dear xx