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Yes, there is Good Reason to Own Ar-15's and they are not mass murder weapons. (Page 2)
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The pick of your daughter is awesome, the gun is almost as big as her.
This isn't evidence as to why AR-15 rifles are allowable. It is just evidence that they are cheap weapons which are lethal in close quarters and easy to use.
Wait.
Why shouldn't they be legal?
Well here's the rub, I don't think that this particular weapon itself should be banned on its own but the fact that it is so readily available, easy to use, effective and cheap is a problem.
It has all the characteristics of "A Problem". You've shown that the weapon is actually a posterchild for basically realistic misuse.
Not really. You could substitute a variety of weapons and have just as lethal or worse killings. Or as is becoming popular, a car or truck.
Most aren't as cheap, accessible, easy to use, effective or portable. It is the mixture that is the problem; the chemistry of misuse is what's the problem.
You showed that other methods pale in some way whether it be price, portability, rational power (because it's obvious when you buy a.50 cal. firearm something is off when you're 18 and "hunting") and ease of use. The only thing lacking is concealment.
Hmm not really. Simple example: would it be easier for paddock to set up a gun nest and get a dozen guns into a casino hotel room? Or just rent a big vehicle and slaughter people Nice France style?
It's significantly easier to get three people in position in a Casino or hotel and trap them (I. e. hostage situations actually occur like this) than incoherently run into a crowd with a car. If you want to kill, by ratio, effectively you need a plan. 87 / x,000 people is ineffective.
@Good_Behavior, the very thing that makes it a problem (cheap, readily available, easy to use, effective) is also what makes it a solution. Self defense and home defense should ALSO be those things. The biggest issue is the mindset that it's better to make everyone helpless, to make it harder for the criminals, which is obviously the wrong approach. Making more victims HELPS the criminal, not hinders him...
Where in this take did the OP state they were "lethal in close quarters"? Not that a.223 can't be, but it takes training to maneuver a rifle in doors because it's so much longer than a pistol, which any monkey can aim in doors, and chopping the barrel on an AR-15 isn't legal unless you either pay the tax stamp, in which case your gun is in ATF jail for 13 months, or you set it up in a pistol configuration, in which case it isn't even a rifle anymore.
Guns can be fun, big and small!
the only major advantage is the range. But doesn't really matter when there's hundreds of people all together with no way to defend themselves.
Hmm I don't know. One muslim with a truck killed more people in nice France vs los vegas.
I agree that both really need to be regulated much more, and existing laws need to be enforced much more strictly. My issue is how easy it is in many states to buy these guns and kill someone. I could drive 5 minutes to the local gun store, buy a weapon and kill people if I wish. That's not a smart society. Even countries like Israel and Switzerland have gun laws that would make most rednecks eyes pop-out in anger.
You can go buy a gun at a gun shop if you have a clean background check, or if you have a weapons license. I was background checked and my fingerprints ran before i could get a license.
Rednecks are also upset you can be a convicted felon, murder a woman in broad daylight with a stolen gun, and be found not guilty. That's San Francisco gun control for you. I like right wing ideas more.
In my state you don't need any of that.
Pretty sure federal law in the usa requires gun dealers to do background checks before selling a gub.
Perhaps in some areas... I know where I live you just buy it. Maybe they're breaking the law.
Licensed firearm dealers selling without background checks? Where is this?
South Carolina
You should report those shops to the batfe for breaking federal law.
All I know is that I have multiple friends who got all sorts of guns and they didn't have to submit anything
exactly!
now multiply that by 100's of stores...
no need to pull all these useless laws, cause that's what they do
obviously they don't work
I love getting straight up evidence from a person living right there to shut these arguments down on a split second
@TripleAce if gun shops are selling firearms without the federally required background checks they are committing a lot of crimes. I'd like to see actual evidence instead of vague secondhand claims.
even if they are, what difference does it make
it happens
and like i said before, you can just get them at gun shows
private sellers...
the evidence is this guy telling you about it... and considering there is a gun problem in USA... it's believable
Why do you keep sticking to "gun dealers"? Unless you're trying to fool the ignorant, the fact that anybody can buy a gun from a private seller, with no background check, is far more relevant than the fact that a background check is required from a federally licensed gun dealer.
@Amy247 😂
Just trying to play it off like its not an issue to defend their dirty habits
I mean thats what people do normally. They don't really like to admit to a problem
Just go in circles finding other solutions besdies the obvious. So they can keep their guns hopefully
@Amy247 there was actually ANOTHER school shooting lol
In a dorm room. At 19 year kid
Like just a few days ago lol
You can find the story
Probably legally bought too
@Amy247
Kid steals father gun and kills both parents in his dorm room
😂
america lol
Such a joke with their guns 😂
@TripleAce right bc if it was a bombing or machete attack, Euro style, that would be so much better.
yeah no the best home defense weapons are shotguns and revolvers. and you shouldn't hunt with them they'll put so many bullets in the dear that you won't have a lot that you can actually eat
How many firearms have you owned? I have owned over 50 firearms and would take a decent 9mm or 45 semi auto over a revolver. I would also take a 5.56mm or 9mm carbine over a shotgun.
i dont have a liscense but my dad owns 2 a shotgun and a revolver and he taught me how to use them and told me they were the best
Sorry, but revolvers are not nearly as good as semi auto pistols. If they were you would see militaries and police departments still carrying them.
my dad said they are the best because they are low maintenance and should someone break in at night you are all groggy and shit and they are easy to use
Thing is, modern semi autos are made to be much more reliable and durable than revolvers. there's records of glocks with 50k rounds or 100k rounds through them and no repairs.
Sane people don't fire 10s of thousands of rounds from their guns. They just want it to work if they need it.
I agree 100%. You forgot to go over the "an AR-15 is a fully automatic assault rifle!". I wish the anti-gun people would do some damn research on what they want to ban.
I have. It fires bullets with about 5x the energy of a 9mm pistol with almost no recoil as fast as you can pull the trigger. Anything wrong, there?
5x? LOL Where did you get this from? MSNBC? False. And no I don't see anything wrong there... if your problem is the 5.56 caliber than can easily be switched with an AR-15. The standard Glock 22 or the popular Smith and Wesson M&P also shoot as fast as your trigger finger.
Point is, AR-15 aren't the problem, it's the few sick and twisted people who could get there hands on one who are the problem.
MSNBC? No. Physics.
"A bullet with more energy can do more damage. Its total kinetic energy is equal to one-half the mass of the bullet times its velocity squared" (doing the maths, a 4g 5.56mm at three times the speed has roughly 5 times the energy of a 7g 9mm)
www.wired.com/2016/06/ar-15-can-human-body/
What exactly is linking me to that site going to prove? I've already read that article before. In that article they describe a 9mm GSW as a "really bad knife cut". that's ridiculous! You want to talk physics and energy? Let's do it.
AR15 standard caliber are 5.56 rounds. 9mm handgun (Ex: Glock 22) uses 9mm rounds.
- A 9mm pistol round weighs +-8.22 grams and its muzzle velocity is 380 m/s. (Kinetic energy is 577,6 Joules.)
- A 5.56 rifle round weighs 3.5 grams and its muzzle velocity is around 900m/s. (Kinetic energy is 1417,5 Joules)
The energy of an AR15 is not even 3x that of 9mm round from a Glock 22, you claimed it was "5x" stronger. Lies. Both rounds produce hydrostastatic shock, so the article you linked me to completely underestimates the damage a 9mm round can do. More lies.
You want to look at real unbiased comparisons between 5.56 and 9mm rounds? Here you go
www.personaldefenseworld.com/.../
Ther@d be a lot less terorism if all white people were armed. Somebody got to stop suicide bombers before they kill us all.
Gun enthusiasts are pussies. Nuff Said.
This article needs to be on the news
Will somebody give this guy a medal already?
Agree.
Great take!!!