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The " feminazis " form the entire feminist leadership , they give the orders , why aren't the rank and file feminists calling them out on their hatred? Feminism / Women's Lib meant well , but has been progressively hijacked by the misandrists , this is all by design , the extremists have been well funded by the Rothschild / Rockefeller Cartel ( they openly admit this ) and have heavy legal & political backing... it's " Divide and Rule " at work. Don't believe the BS , it's nothing to do with genuine equality now !!
Ok, either way, equality has been reached in the U. S. and the West. The battle is over, there is no more need for "feminism". If you still think there is some "struggle" and "battle" for women in the U. S. than you are a bad feminist to me. You've been brainwashed by your liberal arts teachers at university.
Anyone still calling themselves a feminist now is just bad news. Be a "feminist" for Saudi Arabia. All the goals in the U. S. have been reached. You can stand down now.
It simply doesn't matter what "normal" feminists believe in, when the "feminazis" are the ones with influence, media-attention and power. They are the ones who decide the discourse and what direction the movement takes.
And by accepting that the "normal" feminists are just as much to blame. Because as it turns out: Feminism is a movement for equality. That doesn't mean it is right or wrong. It is a movement to achieve that thing with it's own means. But another movement that has a different view on how to achieve equality can just be as valid.
So all the "normal" feminists who accept the feminazis instead of either trying to change the direction of their own movement or going to other movements that are for womens rights and/or achieving equality are as responsible and guilty.
P. S. Considering only 7% of UK or 18% of US people consider themselves feminists, it's not even a big movement. But certainly a loud one that pretends to speak for everyone when it clearly doesn't.
When I was teenager my aunt said to me that women were better than men because women can cook, clean and keep a nice home, whereas men can't (we can just a lot of us don't fyi)...
My reply to this was that without men to build the home you would be keeping a clean cave and if that were the case then you'd probably also need men to go hunting for the food for you to cook. So...
I'm sure your aunt just LOVED that, didn't she? XD
@RetroAlpha She got used to this sort of thing. After a few conversations like this she began to realise I was quite clever and witty lol
Sorry, but I'm not buying it. Feminists, feminazis, misandrists are all the same. The only women who believe in equality are either Egalitarian, Anti-Feminist, MRA or don't wear a label. I recently watched a 2-hour footage of the "March for Men" that took place in Melbourne, Australia on August 25th thanks to an anti-feminist woman named Sydney Watson. There were two women there wearing a shirt with the message "Feminism is Cancer". Good ladies. And watch a documentary called "The Red Pill".
1) You don't need to dislike men to hurt men. Your intention can be entirely to help them but you can still be toxic. I don't care about feminazis because they're obviously crazy and everyone knows it. What I'm concerned about is toxic feminist ideology which people buy into.
2) They also need the same experience, the same record of demonstrable success, the same education, the same risks, the same effectiveness and the same assertiveness in pursing raises and bonuses. Just sayin'
Although I totally agree with this MyTake, you are only one of the VERY few that know what feminism is all about. Many women use feminism as a excuse to disrespect men.
Sadly, a lot of men think feminism is a horrible thing (Which is further from the truth), because of how feminism is used as a cop-out for misandrists. In turn, feminism is often misinterpreted as female supremacist ideology, as opposed to a ideology that we should live in a gender-neutral society. Hence the coinage of the term, 'feminazi'.
This is a good myTake. My biggest issue with the modenr feminist, or "femenazi" is that they seem to care more about people getting their feelings hurt online than they do actual real problems that women face in places like Muslim countries.
They seem to care more about creating this authoritarian society where all wrong-think and anything they don't like is censored and those people are de-platformed, and it's actually kinda scary.
What you just described is just being a decent person. I have never heard of any feminists doing this at all. They are always the people who will call everything a man does sexist or that he raped them just because he breathed oxygen within five feet from them. Feminism is not needed here anymore. Society has given women more rights than men have and it needs to be gone before any more is taken. Take feminism to the middle eastern countries where women are more oppressed than any woman in the west has ever been.
I completely agree, people should learn that being a feminist is not the same as falsely calling themselves "feminists".
It's all about their actions... those who don't believe in gender equality - are not feminists, they are feminazis (female supremacists and misandrists).
Also, some people tend to confuse terms by saying they are egalitarians. Egalitarianism is not just about gender equality, it's also related to racial, ethnic, religious, political and every other form of equality.
Excellent Take ✌️
There is zero differences between feminists and feminists (Yes I spelt that right).
What you described are equalists. The true feminists have evolved, but left the cause behind to form one that is actually for gender equality (Which if were being honest, isn't really needed for women much anymore, it's more useful for men because of what feminists have done to the PC platform)
Feminism is about equity (socialism). Socialism is the enslavement of the productive and successful to the unproductive and unsuccessful. Feminists spend most of their time colonizing and appropriating masculine achievements. As long as none of you equity seekers has legal or financial power over my life, I don't care what you do. Otherwise, HULK SMASH.
Feminism is all based on the same core principles. It has been rooted in misandry since the early beginnings. The loudest and most famous voices of feminism were all man-hating bigots. They are the most quoted, studied, and idolized feminist. The biggest groups of feminism (NOW, WAR, Female UN) have all pushed anti-male bullshit, they have silenced and shut down male issues.
If you claim to be a feminist and believe the "wage gap" is real, or that "rape culture" or the "patriarchy" is real... then you adhere to the same bullshit lies that all feminist adhere to and therefore are no different than the ones you scapegoat as "fem-nazis".
What you are doing here is no different than trying to distinguish between good and bad Nazis. But anyone who supports Nazism supports the horrific shot that Nazism did.
The same is true of feminism. What feminism does today is pure shit. By supporting the feminist movement you are supporting feminist shit. This is not rocket science.
Feminism will never be respected again, and for good reason. It has earned that. If you want to support equality and you ACTUALLY care about both men and women, you cannot support feminism, period.
If that is the case, then feminists don't exist in the USA, only feminazis.
I'm sure there will be few feminists in the USA, however, it isn't really my place to speak since I live in and have never been out of the UK.
It's just sad you feel that way.
In the USA, the ones that identify as feminists very much do hate men, claim a bunch of lies are true, and never do anything to help men's rights, especially when it comes to kids/family/birth rights, or divorce, or employment.
It may be different where you come from (I don't know because I only live in the USA) but here the feminists are very bad.
If they hate against men, and do not support their rights then they are not feminists, even though they might identify themselves as such.
They need to be told to respect the gender that helped give them life. A woman may have given birth to them, but she would not have been able to procreate without a man. And even if she could, that still gives them no right to undermine men. Don't listen to them, they're wrong.
I mean, in school everyone who identifies as feminists supports both genders will shut down sexist comments towards any gender.
There's no feminazi that calls themselves feminazis obviously. They THINK they're feminists. And those who are feminists sadly cannot claim they are due to men (and some women too) who bash the term without logically understanding there's a difference between extremist-types (in this case, feminazi's) and the regular types of people in movements, religions, cultures.
It's good to make the distinction. On issues like this, the most extreme voices, in this case, misandrists, will be the ones heard and used as foils by their opponents.
It's my personal opinion that the greatest challenges that women face today are a lack of affordable child care at the hours when they need it and insufficient income support for single moms heading a household.
Awesome myTake, ignorant people should learn the truth.
If someone doesn't practice what they preach, they are fake.
If a Liberal calls himself a Liberal, but preaches racism, or any other form of bigotry, it's obvious that he or she is not a Liberal, but just a fake.
The same goes for femi-nazis, they may claim to be feminists, but to any sane person, they are obviously not even close, because they don't follow the ideals of feminism.
I like this Take. I think people are too obsessed with traditional norms, they dont want to let go of them so they prefer to hate on all feminists. I believe there are lots of male feminists but they'd rather hide it, because they know they'd get ridiculed which i find very sad.
As a Muslim, I say that just how ISIS doesn't define Islam, feminazi doesn't define feminism either.
Grab some popcorn cause come drama is gonna start now! 😎
Neither of those are needed.
Yeah, ISIS actually follows the teaching of Islam, unlike modernist Muslims.
@es20490446e you probably hate the fact that Islam gave women their due rights 1400 years ago which you still don't even want to recognize.
@Celtero oh here's an Islamic scholar coming here to guide a Muslim... LOL buzz off.
Religion is superstition.
There is a big problem with feminist vs feminazis. Feminazis have appropriated the word feminist it belongs to them now they are the louder and more public group. It seems unlikely that feminist will take back the word feminist they'd have to really rally and fight for it.
What women had is changing men are understanding the importance of being stay at home fathers and home makers.
So few people recognize the impact and importance of home makers, we've doubled our work force hugely devaluing labor for men and women.
This issue is complicated and effects so Manny aspects of life.
I think the home is important wether a guy is running it or a woman someone should be.
I think the feminazis are going to continue to have an impact indoctcgrinate our youth. Real feminist and guys who care about family's ate loosing out to them..