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Why Aren't Women Drafted? Should They Be? (Page 2)
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Seems like you have this straight. I will say this. Women stereotypically are able to multitask better than men. I think relatively few women should be in close combat operations but are widely capable in others. I think close support in an A-10 Warthog...
... is pretty Manly Man stuff, but Arizona Rep Martha McSally acquitted herself well in it as the first female A-10 operator.
My kind of girl.
If there ever was a WW3 I would volunteer my services... like a nursing assistant or something. I think countries need people to volunteer, not be drafted. It’s hard to work with people who don’t want to be there!
Women should not be drafted and all radical feminists should be reprogrammed in a psych ward. This would solve the debate because the question of whether all women should be drafted is an appropriate conclusion to the "equality" that radical feminists liberals fight for. But the feminist ideology is very flawed. So it should be rejected by society. Women should be women. And me should be men. We are different. And different is good. Feminists want women to become men. They don't want pregnancy, they want the breadwinner career. I think they also want a penis. They are sick and twisted people
Your first point those numbers you supplied are partly do to a bias family court system. Your second point people can get stronger as no make gains. Your third point women are not emotional or mentally weaker than men. Your fourth point could please cite your source. Your 5th point are there any studies supporting that argument. The 6th point how much does cost to equip our current female service members than our Male ones. Do you have that number. Point 7 how many military battles have happened on us soil. And point 8 please vote sources.
Not at all. Females didn't make the rule. Men back then, some even now, laughed and laugh at the thought of women doing any sort of physical work. Still tell us we should have stayed in the kitchen. It's so not feminine.
Loved and love to talk about how women are physically inferior etc. Well yeah hope you enjoy the draft.
I accepted I can't do things a "man" was built for. My stepdad set me in my place long ago with that reality.
They can keep it. Don't be mad at females for something your own gender decided.
Lol you have tons of self-hate
Did a religion brainwashed you?
I'm an atheist.
As well I don't see how it's self-hate. Just following what everyone wants society wants right? Either way there's always something I'm doing wrong right? Can't make everyone happy right.. lol
Just a waste of space who doesn't even want to be alive. Making everyone in the world pissed. To much of a coward to actually end my worthless existence.
My family everyone else.
Yeah you're right I have a lot of self-hate. I hate myself not because of my gender just I do.
I wish I was dead never born. I don't wanna be alive but I'm to much if a coward to die. I'm a disappointment to everyone. I wish I could give my life to someone who would make use of it.
Waking up everyday just reminding me of how worthless I am.
Being hated
Trying to make others happy fix things.
I can't anymore
I just cry and cry
No one can help me I can't even help myself.
No one cares
Bottles of pill
I can't even jump. I just chicken out and sit there crying.
I can't go to anyone.
I have no one
I can't do anything right.
I'm nothing but cancer a disease.
I don't deserve to live.
I'm not going to be a coward anymore it wouldn't matter to anyone if I just died. That would just make everyone happy. The world would be better off.
There is no need to draft women. Most males are themselves not qualified for military service. The era of huge land wars necessitating lots of cannon fodder is long gone. Hackers and cybersecurity specialists are more needed for modern warfare.
NO ONE IS BEING DRAFTED.
Women will be drafted if there is a draft bc they already serve in the military- which they fought to be able to do.
women have been drafted for centuries in other countries. United States did not create Adam And Eve. seriously.
No one is being drafted currently no, but when a male turns 18 he has an option to sign a paper saying he agrees to letting his name into selective services (if there's another draft). If he does not sign the said agreement his rights to attend college, work inside the U. S and the right to vote will be not given to him.
That's not how the draft works. Women are currently not forced to sign up for a draft. Anyone, woman or man, currently serving, signed up of their free will to serve voluntarily. The draft takes on anyone regardless of whether they have a desire to fight for country or not and is not voluntary. Women in previous wars signed up to help the war effort, but were never required to.
@kreamykraemez It is called selective service
I live in Australia where there was compulsory national service in the military for men until 1972 when it was abolished. Many people, particularly in the older generations would like to bring it back. If it does come back, and I doubt it ever will, then compulsory service should only apply to men for the reasons outlined above. Women should be able to volunteer but generally should not be used in primary combat roles.
There are some reasonable arguments for not having women on front-lines. But most people in the military aren't front-line combatants and most people who are drafted don't fight. You can drive a car can't you? Learn to operate different transports. You can learn to operate a radio. You can cook for people. You can keep inventory and manage logistics. And if push comes to shove then you should be prepared to fight.
If you want to vote then take the draft.
But if you're not taking it and still expect to vote then what are we to do about that? Just because there's a bunch of reasons why you shouldn't be on the front line doesn't mean that suddenly it's all fair and ideal.
You should get something for signing up for the draft, like a tax cut, or a medicare discount or something. Putting your name down should mean something.
Yes they should be drafted in countries with conscription and they actually are. Israel is one example.
Since guns and other weaponry have rendered physical imbalances pretty irrelevant when it comes to battles there's no reason why women wouldn't do well here. They probably make quite brilliant snipers, air force pilots, etc.
a Woman on average is physically weaker than a man, and why the fuck do feminists gotta bitch and moan about every fuckin thing i don't want to be forced to go to war if we end up in a real big war where drafting happens, Fuckin ell its like all you feminists do is find your blessing and complain about them
In my opinion they shouldn’t be, on average women do tend to be physically weaker. It’s just due to biology and bone structure, not some made up patriarchy telling women what they can and can’t do. Men on average also tend to be more muscular and are more likely to be patriotic/pro-military.
No one should have to be drafted unless they want to fight, but chances are if all hell breaks loose and there is a world war 3 (which i think will happen in future) , we're all gonna be thrown in it regardless. If you think about it, no one is really safe from a world war, men and women will die even if they are or aren't on the battlefield.
i think ww3 will happen in future to
but it will be the last war
For your information, they have a lot of women serving in the service at the time, in all fields. Now, since women feel they should be treated equally as men in everything else, including being able to join the Boy Scouts, then I think they should be able to be drafted too. Israeli women serve in the army in Israel. Are the US women a bunch of wuss bitches who are only good for posting pics on Instagram and getting their nails done weekly, or are they tough and ready to rumble?
IMHO, yes, they should be. There are literally 1000's of jobs in the military that don't require biceps of steel. In fact, the vast majority of the military occupations are support roles. Every able bodied male that sits behind a desk is one less gunner, pilot, etc. Women can do combat too, but their efficacy is somewhat limited, with rare exception. Those women who can do combat, should. Those who cannot should help their brothers and sisters in arms get their bullets, boots and biscuits.
I think we should. Just because you can carry 50lbs more or run faster than me does NOT mean you are better equipped to serve our country. Soldiers are just pawns in actual war, and honestly now, we have such high tech technology Being able to carry 200 more pounds ain't going to make you bullet or bomb proof.
One problem is when a woman is captured by enemy , she will be train loaded. Of course most women are doing that in private anyway.
If woman want 100% equality, then of course. If it's voluntary for men, then the same should prevail for women. But, God did not make men and women equal in certain respects. Viva la difference! That said, that Israeli gal in item #6 above could certainly be used as a diversionary tactic against the male enemies! So, let's just admit that the sexes are different for some very good reasons, let the women join if they want, and let's get on with life.
Nobody should be drafted unless it is absolutely necessary like in a huge world war.
I think women that are in the military should be in separate units than men so the men don't have to worry about protecting a lesser soldier that is actually endangering the rest of the unit.
If you think the need for the drat has disappeared, think about. If there were the case them males wouldn't still be required to register for it when they hit 18. But to all the feminist that enjoy the special rights that men don't have, I have to warn you, I don't have the freedom you have and I won't fight should the need arise, you have the freedom it's your fight not mine.
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If you think the need for the draft has disappeared, think again. If that were the case then males wouldn't still be required to register for it when they hit 18. But to all the feminist that enjoy your special rights and freedom I don't have men don't have, I have to warn you, I don't have those same freedoms you have and I won't fight for yours should the need arise, you will fight next time, it's your fight not mine. I won't
Oh and by the way, women not required to register for or to be drefted, this isn't equality, for all you feminist out there.
No shit. Both sexes should have to register for the selected service. It's okay by the way, I think we will all fare just fine without your service.
@chopper1977 And you may get your chance to make good on fare fine, fasten your seatbelts cause there's currently turbulence with China and I'll remember your comment going forward.
I have already served... and if I was recalled to serve again I would not hesitate to do so. Some of us take pride in defending this country so that the likes of you can continue living your mundane albeit free life.
@chopper1977 Oh, the likes of me? You mean while YOU as a woman has all the freedoms and privileges that I as a MAN DON'T have? That's right, the LIKES OF ME!
And last time I checked, it is WOMEN that have the rights, NOT MEN.
Yeah sure, you don't have rights... older white male I presume? I profile you as white, because it is typically the white man who sits high on his horse whining and complaining that all others somehow have all these rights that he lacks. In reality, it is men like you who are threatened by having to share their alpha posts at the top of the totem pole. You have been privileged for so many generations that you have no true recollection of what it feels like to be equal to blacks, females etc. Dear god, imagine what it would feel like for you to be the minority... white female marine veteran here. Your welcome.
@chopper1977 No, it's not just me as the white man, MGTOW is in the millions and believe me, it's black men to. We're all aware of the system that been setup in favor of women, we're aware, and service men are included in MGTOW too.
Please continue with your little online support system then... it wasn't even that long ago that women won the right to vote, and you sit there whining about not having the same rights as even a woman... pfpppfffttt!!! Just so you know, us women who want equality; we want to be drafted. I know I am capable; therefore, I expect to be treated as capable. Additionally, they didn't have to draft my ass because I volunteered. Did you? I have six years of higher education under my belt, so if I do climb the ranks quicker than some of my male counterparts, it's not because I haven't earned it.
@chopper1977 Earned the right to vote. I love how that gets twisted. Yeah women and men earned the right to vote, unless they owned property, that is. You know what I'm saying true. Feminist are yelling rape culture and that actually does exist. But it's not women that's being raped, it's men in court rooms having their children stolen from them and their livelihoods. Men are being persecuted literally, where's our special treatment females get? Sorry men aren't valued end of story.
@chopper1977 letting them vote was a HUGE mistake by the way. Look what has happened. That is how Obama got on the ballot and elected for one
@malegender Totally that is for certain.
Nobody should be drafted, it should be a free choice of every individual.
We live in democracy, not in some totalitarian regime.