What alternative to supervision do you have in mind? Besides that when was the last time you heard of a lobotomy being performed in the U. S in the last decade?
The alternative supervision is mentioned above, in the form of three nurses with sedatives and tranquilizers closely supervising the patient’s everyday activities.
Lobotomies may not happen anymore but beatings and forced conformity still happen in psych wards.
Some of these things including isolation and being held against your will are 100% good things that I'll always support. Mainly the being held against your will part. That's a good thing if you're actually diagnosed correctly with something.
As for scrubs and all that, most physch wards I know are in hospitals and that's kinda just what all patients wear. And there are some very very good reasons for why someone with a disorder should be forced to wear scrubs and not their own clothing.
So you support unethical treatment? I see you are only 15, so I can understand why you’d think that. Do more research on psychiatric wards and you’ll understand why those are not good things. And no people don’t always wear scrubs in hospitals.
The problem is that unless you are going to blow shit up and massacre people, self-harm or even wishing you could get rid of pain does not merit holding an adult against his will. The former are in most situations premeditated crimes, the latter a personal choice that affects only the person involved unless they deliberately make a spectacle of themselves. Probably the most poignant point of this article is the misdiagnosis part. I'm a living example of that. They misdiagnosed me at least three times, from psychosis, to paranoia, to anorexia, to bipolar, to manic and now down to mild depression. I've been through at least six different meds including injections that consisted of benadryl and some other substances that they give patients with anxiety disorders and paranoid/psychotic and schizophrenic episodes. I'm now down to a small dose of antidepressants. There is nothing dangerous or unusual about me yet I have been to five different psych wards. What I have learned is that you will be institutionalized if they perceive you as someone who doesn't conform or uphold the status quo and that is the true danger in our society.
I have clinical depression and anxiety. I've been to multiple psych wards. I'm put in one at least twice a month for a couple days to a few weeks. Age doesn't really affect diagnoses. But I will say people tend to care about kids and seniors more than adults. And I usually go to a psych ward meant for minors so the treatment may be better that adult wards. Being held agaisnt my will is usually good for me since I'm usually admitted for suicide attempts, self harm, and suicidal ideation.
Not every patient in a psychward is suicidal, some are even wrongly detained because the people there run those places just want to see the dollars roll in.
From the numerous accounts of people who’ve been in them. Some said they had positive experiences while others said they had negative experiences which ranged from abuse, neglect, unjustified involuntary commitment etc.
How do you know they are accurate? You've never been in one. Your honestly a shit person. Judging smthg as important as this when u dont even know what the fuck ur talking about
Watch your language kid. Using faulty generalizations, hasty generalizations and use ad hominems to argue. Instantly diminishes your credibility. Not that you had any to begin with.
You are right, his insights are not from a perspective of someone who has been on an actual psych ward. But, he is heading in an interesting direction. The real problem with psych wards is the zero safety and privacy especially of female patients. There is no way to protect yourself from orderlies, doctors or other inpatients. If someone wants to walk in on you naked, they can. If the nurses and doctors don't want to let you have your clothes, they can and will let you walk around half naked in a measly hospital gown and dirty underwear. There is no dignity being in a psych ward. Not none.
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What alternative to supervision do you have in mind? Besides that when was the last time you heard of a lobotomy being performed in the U. S in the last decade?
The alternative supervision is mentioned above, in the form of three nurses with sedatives and tranquilizers closely supervising the patient’s everyday activities.
Lobotomies may not happen anymore but beatings and forced conformity still happen in psych wards.
Do the nurses get protection of any kind?
Hypothetically they would get body armor.
Ah. That might be helpful
Remember though it’s only a hypothetical alternative supervision.
Very true
Yea they suck and the people are mistreated but some people need to be there
@Jackpot1977 Joseph Mengele bootlegs have no place in the 21st century.
Interesting take.
Send some of the politicians there (oh, they need it), let them see what goes on in these facilities for themselves!
I thought they already had closed down all the psych wards perhaps I've been watching to many Urban Exploration videos
Some of these things including isolation and being held against your will are 100% good things that I'll always support. Mainly the being held against your will part. That's a good thing if you're actually diagnosed correctly with something.
As for scrubs and all that, most physch wards I know are in hospitals and that's kinda just what all patients wear. And there are some very very good reasons for why someone with a disorder should be forced to wear scrubs and not their own clothing.
So you support unethical treatment? I see you are only 15, so I can understand why you’d think that. Do more research on psychiatric wards and you’ll understand why those are not good things. And no people don’t always wear scrubs in hospitals.
The problem is that unless you are going to blow shit up and massacre people, self-harm or even wishing you could get rid of pain does not merit holding an adult against his will. The former are in most situations premeditated crimes, the latter a personal choice that affects only the person involved unless they deliberately make a spectacle of themselves. Probably the most poignant point of this article is the misdiagnosis part. I'm a living example of that. They misdiagnosed me at least three times, from psychosis, to paranoia, to anorexia, to bipolar, to manic and now down to mild depression. I've been through at least six different meds including injections that consisted of benadryl and some other substances that they give patients with anxiety disorders and paranoid/psychotic and schizophrenic episodes. I'm now down to a small dose of antidepressants. There is nothing dangerous or unusual about me yet I have been to five different psych wards. What I have learned is that you will be institutionalized if they perceive you as someone who doesn't conform or uphold the status quo and that is the true danger in our society.
I have clinical depression and anxiety. I've been to multiple psych wards. I'm put in one at least twice a month for a couple days to a few weeks. Age doesn't really affect diagnoses. But I will say people tend to care about kids and seniors more than adults. And I usually go to a psych ward meant for minors so the treatment may be better that adult wards. Being held agaisnt my will is usually good for me since I'm usually admitted for suicide attempts, self harm, and suicidal ideation.
@Amber yea getting diagnosed wrong is bad. Since being diagnosed is honestly highly biased.
@adf if your suicidal or have a tendency to self harm, i thinks scrubs are a good idea since ropes and strings are safety hazards and what not
Not every patient in a psychward is suicidal, some are even wrongly detained because the people there run those places just want to see the dollars roll in.
My bad I prob shouldve mentioned that what I said only applies if you were correctly diagnosed
Thankfully I’ve never been in a psych ward and I don’t ever plan on being in one. Neither should you, if you know how many of them truly are.
... if you've never been in one. How would you know its "unethical"?
From the numerous accounts of people who’ve been in them. Some said they had positive experiences while others said they had negative experiences which ranged from abuse, neglect, unjustified involuntary commitment etc.
How do you know they are accurate? You've never been in one. Your honestly a shit person. Judging smthg as important as this when u dont even know what the fuck ur talking about
Watch your language kid. Using faulty generalizations, hasty generalizations and use ad hominems to argue. Instantly diminishes your credibility. Not that you had any to begin with.
How much time have you spent on an actual psych ward? As a patient or a staff member? Oh right, none. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
@Marketdata Neither do you, so don’t bother commenting if you have nothing to add except snide remarks.
Still talking through the back of your neck. You don't know me.
You don’t know me either, all you do on this website is made snide remarks against random people. What else is new?
You are right, his insights are not from a perspective of someone who has been on an actual psych ward. But, he is heading in an interesting direction. The real problem with psych wards is the zero safety and privacy especially of female patients. There is no way to protect yourself from orderlies, doctors or other inpatients. If someone wants to walk in on you naked, they can. If the nurses and doctors don't want to let you have your clothes, they can and will let you walk around half naked in a measly hospital gown and dirty underwear. There is no dignity being in a psych ward. Not none.
Very true, I totally agree with you 👍
Good take
Umm..
What?
That sucks