Debunking the “wimpy Asian” stereotype (Page 2)

[2shredded]

I actual love Lu Xiaojun, I watch him on YouTube his form is so elegant and beautiful like art lol

[morrowlow]

people who have smaller bodies naturally have smaller muscles and less power compared to those who are bigger. short peopla can learn to fight and everything but there's a reason why big, tall men have always been praised.

[ADFSDF1996]

Your first premise is actually incorrect, tall stature by itself has no correlation with large muscle mass. There are many tall guys who no matter how much lifting they do, they can’t seem to grow muscle unless they use steroids. Even Hafthor Bjornsson admitted to using steroids. Prior to his strongman career, he was a tall skinny basketball player.

Not that long ago, a 15 year old 5’8” 156 lb boy managed to close the number 3 captain’s of crush gripper which requires 280 lbf to close. Keep in mind that not many full grown large men can fully close that gripper. www.ironmind.com/.../

And when it comes to fighting, there are many more factors aside from size, speed and skill that determines the outcome of a fight. Here are some Pros and Cons of Your Height ↗ That’s why smaller individuals occasionally triumph over their larger adversaries.

[morrowlow]

exactly that's why i used the word bigger and when i wrote tall it was accompanied by the word big. but generally size is very important i'm afraid. that's why they classify fighters based on their weight because strength has always been in size and strength can change a lot of things. if i punch a guy my size i may do some damage but if i punch a 7 foot guy i won't be able to do any damage because he's body can easily take that blow. it takes a real master of fighting to be able to hurt someone who's way bigger than him but it usually doesn't happen among ordinary people. the rest of the points you made sound right to me

[ADFSDF1996]

Ed Coan is only 5’7” and weighs 217lbs. Yet in his prime he was able to bench and squat more than Hafthor Bjornsson due to his advantage of having a shorter range of motion. Taller people are actually at a disadvantage because their longer range of motion requires more work.

Weight classes are a fairly new concept to MMA, because it’s now illegal in North America to sanction open weight fights. Early MMA didn’t have weight classes, now the only two MMA promotions that still sanction open weight fights are Rizin (Japan) and Road FC (South Korea). But fortunately, it’s still allowed to have open weight Jiujitsu, Judo, wrestling and sumo contests. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EWOLzZrVkcM

Even when both the smaller fighter and bigger fighter have no skill. The smaller person can still use the advantages that comes with his or her smaller size to win. Like in this backyard brawl. Of course, the smaller person isn’t always going to win but it is still fairly common for the smaller person to come out on top. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HPEq5B87N14

[BigJake]

I read somewhere that Asian women prefer slimmer, smaller guys, so it's probably not a big issue. Asians in the US rarely play sports of any kind, which contributes to them being seen as less physical than other guys.

[ImagineSketchy]

So... You're just looking at how the US sees Asians? Most of the world doesn't see Asians in that light.
Interesting take though.

[JamesRandiDebates]

And Asian women make the best massage parlor prostitutes!

[Cowboy6666]

Only Koreans, Vietnamese, Filipino are Asians? aren't Russains, Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshi, Srilankan, persian, afghani, Turkish, Kuwaiti, Kazakhstan, lebanon, Iraqi, Nepalese, Oman, Yemeni people from Jupiter or Mars?

[sejla]

Yeah the body guard was a pretty hot topic. But sadly he's married.

[sejla]

There is a reason why so many women watch Asian dramas. It isn't just because of the impressive writing... https://lh3. googleusercontent. com/_A4KD_e4yNtBddGOp1OnpGn4fyNx-o0v3ZJ_cDtbNHe1wf6MvYvFuv-s8ADyLka1EP4OiWVuwW9F7OBhRnYVUlpbVcMG7kGmBQ=w1200-h630-rj-pp

[sejla]

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[chunlilovesvega]

holy shit that bodyguard is hot as hell is he for real?

[ADFSDF1996]

Yes he’s real.

[natzz]

I think they were/are neglected by people through centuries. They done amazing things.

[Billybob643]

This was a stereotype? Never even heard of this. Do people not realize all races can workout?

[AnimeThot]

Now can someone pls do a mytake proving not all Asians girls are flat lmao

[GreatnessBack]

I'd like to see that. A know a few who are thick, but they are American raised. Lol

[Girl2890]

@GreatnessBack wtf is up with people using the word thick it’s so gross ,

[Tru-陳]

Most Asian girls are flat. It's not a stereotype. Saying Asian men are weak IS a stereotype.

[AnimeThot]

Yeah, I was joking.

[Kimochi]

but Asian male is still the least favorable in dating though, acording to the study and self experience. feelsbadman

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Skinny but deadly

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I stereotype them us kung fu masters a lot. Oh and Bruce Lee is pretty bulky too.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I mean Kung Fu bullies

[ShyAsianGirl]

Bruce Lee was half white half Asian

[Aiko_E_Lara]

@ShyAsianGirl Almost everyone is pretty much mixed after WW2. Also another example is Manny Pacquiao

[Aiko_E_Lara]

@ShyAsianGirl And if you want history then research about the Mongol/Chinese/Japanese empires.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

@ShyAsianGirl And sure all these actors are K Drama actors right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEIC0IYZSng

[Aiko_E_Lara]

@ShyAsianGirl Oh one last thing. A lot of those K pop actors are mixed race too.

[Armourdillo]

Women don't care dude. You can present them with facts, but it's all about how they feel. They will lie to themselves to rationalize not liking a guy to not seem shallow, or blame other things.

[UI_Vegeta01]

"Asian" doesn't only comprise of Korean, Japanese and Chinese. I am also an Asian (South East Asia) but I know that I don't fall in any of the wimpy characteristics. It's just blatant generalization.

[GreatnessBack]

Who says this? Have they not watched Kung Fu movies? The bastards are pretty tough.

[LawrenceKen]

It's called acting

[GreatnessBack]

Being a martial artist is not easy.

[theFantasticJayy]

If you wanted to write so much you should have gone to quora not this fucking website lol

[ADFSDF1996]

I have a quora account but it’s way too biased for my tastes.

[dropkicknj13]

I feel like you just made this stereotype up in your own mind, and you are extremely insecure about it lol

[ADFSDF1996]

Calling out Nonsense has nothing to do with insecurity, buddy.

[dropkicknj13]

It does when you go on so much about it, and when the "nonsense" is nonexistent as in this case of a stereotype I would say is all in your head

[ADFSDF1996]

That’s because you’re not looking close enough. I don’t expect you to understand this if you’re not Asian.

[ADFSDF1996]

You lose your credibility when you try to act like a shrink by making all sorts of baseless assumptions. If you want to be credible then don’t use fallacies, it’s quite simple. And most importantly do your research before trying to correct someone, otherwise you just look like a fool.

www.google.com/.../amp

[dropkicknj13]

If nobody but Asians understood this that would be further proof it isn't real lol

I also made no baseless assumptions, I gave you my evaluation of your take and clearly stated my basis for it. If you wish to be credible, dont use words you clearly don't understand to try and disregard others.

[ADFSDF1996]

Now you’re just copying everything I said.

Seriously, just admit it. You didn’t do your research before writing your first comment. I even provided a link for you and you just ignored it. Your liberal bias is starting to show.

[dropkicknj13]

First, It's call a refutation, you repeat by necessity so point out how each part is wrong.

Second, nothing here really required research. I stated my disbelief in this stereotype existing since I've never heard of it, and apparently neither have any of the other commenters.

Third, I did read your link but found it didn't add anything of value. An Asian guy killing people because white women dont want to date him doesn't support the idea that people think Asians are weak. I also don't see the existence of colonial era propaganda as supporting evidence.

The liberal bias thing is funny though as I'm far from liberal. Would have thought that was your position what with sourcing the huff post, and writing a take about your victimhood.

[ADFSDF1996]

There you go again making baseless assumptions and assuming you know more about a subject than you actually do.

And that’s not the point of the article. Of course what Elliot did was horrible, there’s no denying that. The reason why I linked the article was because it clearly talks about how Asian men are viewed as effeminate, did you not read that?

[dropkicknj13]

I did, but they just state that with no basis. They attempt to connect it with dating site trends, but they even quote that as "Asian men are often depicted as geeky nerds with high intelligence but low charisma", not as effeminate. The article is a fallacy that they out themselves, and then they talk about penis size stereotypes and colonialism.

[ADFSDF1996]

Here’s a quote of that article

“In fact, the feminization of Asian men and their genitalia is the exact opposite of African-American men, who are portrayed as overly sexual and hypermasculine, with extra-large genitalia. While Asian men's sexuality is invisibilized in our society, African-American sexuality is portrayed as dangerously attractive.“

[dropkicknj13]

Yes yes, I've read the article but Asian men are not really singled out in that comparison except by the author, as African American men are stereotyped to be larger than everyone and not just Asians. By that comparison every non black group is suffering feminization.
I also disagree with the idea that saying someone has a small or smaller dick is feminizing. Having a dick at all is a masculine trait, regardless of its size.

[ShyAsianGirl]

I agree you come off as insecure in this article and desperate.

[ADFSDF1996]

@dropkicnj13 Don’t Tell me that, tell that to society.

[ADFSDF1996]

@ShyAsianGirl Says the girl who generalized all Asian men as effeminate. Get out of here.

[LawrenceKen]

@ShyAsianGirl He is insecure because he is small and no girls have ever given him attention.

[ADFSDF1996]

@LawrenceKen There you go again, making unwarranted assumptions.

You’re the one that’s insecure, since you won’t shut up.

[Whatsupdoc97]

No idea where this comes from! I'm in the army and let me tell ya 80% of the time the guy/girl is extremely in shape

[ZeussLightningBolt]

I've actually never thought of Asians as wimpy