Why INCELs are shooting schools.

[Robertcw]

So I've changed A LOT in mindset since first joining 1 year ago.

However, I still take an interest in incel groups as I did then. I don't want to make new followers uncomfortable with this Take, but it just dawned on me why this is happening while watching a news clip that was playing at a takeout place I frequent.

Pay no mind to Fox News

Incels are extremely jealous people, and they understand that children are born from people who date and get married, or at least have sex. Arguably, this is the basis of all sexual attraction and flirting (different topic and point though).

But, if you were a terrorist group and you wanted to damage or defeat your enemy what do you do? It's so obvious. You wipe out the gene pool by killing the offspring before they get a chance to reproduce, thereby permanently ending that bloodline unless they have more kids -- which could be painful or impossible post menopause.

This was Darwin's whole theory of natural selection. People often think it was 'survival of the fittest' but it's really survival up until reproduction. Species last over time by reproducing, even if they are poorly suited to their environments.

One example if this would be white people in Australia. Light skin is the worst kind for near equator living due to low melanin levels meaning more damaged causes by UV sunlight. But, they keep having babies with light skin, and so the poorly adapted genes continue, even thrive.

Could also use spiders as an example. Often the female spider eats the male after sex. Literally kills him and eats him. But since she has babies, the gene is passed on -- regardless of how dumb it might be.

So, incels hate attractive people pretty much as I understand it. Undermining their bloodline is the one snd only way to kill off an entire gene-pool in one swoop. It's actually what male lions do after taking over a new pride. In any case, this is my thought on why school shooting keep being carried out.

Okay. This will be my last Take on such negative and dreary topics. I like the ones about things like edible jello sand much more. xD 🤪

[AllThatSweetJazz]

Wow, dumb take.

You really put in a lot of thought and went off in a crazy direction with it.

[Jersey2]

This ^

[Robertcw]

Yeah whatever. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[EleanorRigby]

Lmfao exactly my thoughts. 😂

[genuinepervert]

Ok what so that's the plan is to wipe us out by killing are kids at school. Pretty smart except it's quite possible the dumbest thing I've ever heard. What's the mortality rate vs newborn mmmm not even gonna look but there loosing. There not gonna say pussys cause I like pussy. There spoiled babies who's need to get off YouTube and got to many participation trophies instead of learning how to fail and learn not to suck at life. Kids are fucked they get hit hard young now days fuck they can't even figure out what gender they are. Natural selection is for kids who eat tide pods. That's how a baby would handle it cry and fall on the floor. The older they got the more elaborate the tantrums have to be so they shoot people. Like David Bowie said " "you have got an image problem" Most teenagers i know can't take constructive criticism they get mad like you attack them. My first reaction toward you post and replies here i was anger cause only youth is so selfish and absorbed. If you guess don't change it then your causing it. Get it's overwhelming but not complicated if someone is bullying you everyday and he can kick your ass well do something take a class read a book WATCH A YOU TUBE VIDEO and whip his ass but don't go kill everyone cause your embraced, FUCK the participation trophy you lost you suck get up and try again it's good to loose you see the beauty of living and that WIN SORRY if that's a little angry toward you but ITS NOT FROM LACK OF SEX. Think before you react. The world is what WE make of it Us you and I and everyone. Lame excuse that no one would help them did you try to help NO but you DID judge the people who did. So sorry but fuck you good people died for no reason other than lack of PARTICIPATION not LACK OF ANALYTICS fix it you 19 and 24 yr old

[KillianK]

In my mind it is the pressure of the world they live in as well as social standing that turn people into school shooters, not merely being an incel. For years people would joke to me about me becoming the next school shooter because I fit the general, stereotypical mold for one. And I will admit, I do have some issues with my anger and I'm pretty withdrawn from social interactions. However, these facts about me still had no effect on me becoming a shooter. And yet, time and again, it is the people like me who end up commiting this crime. After the series of shootings in 2017 and 18, people began to fear me even more, and that made me feel even more isolated and alone. However, I had something at a lot of the shooters lack: at least a few friends who knew who I really was. I'm not actually a cold, heartless bastard who would rather be left alone to wallow in self-destructive misery, but someone who would rather see people smile, laugh, and include me in a group for a good long chat. It's unfortunate that people like me tend to commit mass school shootings; but perhaps if people were more open and accepting to us in the first place, maybe we wouldn't pull the trigger so often.

[sognare555]

The best to you.

[BeMuse]

The median age for school shooters is 21. What do 21 year old people usually have in common? They recently were in or are still in some sort of school. They’re not trying to destroy the kids of the people they do not like, they are going after the people they do not like directly in their circle of peers. Back to the drawing board for you... It could kids that got bullied in high school that want revenge. It could be depressed kids that weren’t accepted to college who are working dead end jobs and are pissed off that other people have more opportunity. It could be kids that get kicked out of college that are pissed off at administrators. One thing it’s certainly not is depressed kids over thinking ways to remove the offspring of attractive people. lol

[MAINEVENTMAFlA]

I do not buy in to the whole incel thing I mean how you gonna call a 16 yr old kid an incel? Many people are celibate throughout high school. I would not call anyone an incel because it is a stupid ass name they came up with. Sure it is easy to get sexually frustrated but this whole thing has become almost a movement these idiots actually call themselves incels like they are proud of it. Then they go out and do something violent as if they had no other choice. They are no different than a Muslim terrorist or a Neo Nazi they have a fucked up belief system about the world and they hurt people. We should not encourage them by even using the word incel. They are just fucked up individuals get them mental help and they can be fine and there will be way less violence.

[UncleJessieRabbit]

I think pretty close to if not /the/ main premise of the Incel belief is that other peers are participating in something that they feel right or wrong that they are unable to attain for whatever reason and develop a sense of repression and even hardcore resentment for those who "have".

It doesn't really help either that we live in a society that over-sells sex.

[N192K001]

So, in other words, all these U. S. school-shootings would be avoided if the students should dedicated themselves to their studies, instead of turning school into a social-event with all sorts of distractions, like boyfriend/girlfriend relationships that don't result in anything substantial in the long term. (Heard of any school-shootings in any U. S.-based all-boy/all-girl schools… or in Asia?)

Keep the students too busy with their textbooks, assignments, and tests. With those heavy things taking-up their minds, their waking-hours, and their lives at that point, they'll have no time to even think of shooting others.

[N192K001]

Correction: "Keep the students too busy with their textbooks, assignments, projects, tests, quizzes, advanced/A. P.-credit work, extra-credit homework, supplementary readings, etc. With those heavy things taking-up their minds, their waking-hours, and their lives at that point, they'll have no time to even think of shooting others. Leave them only time to sleep, eat, maybe interact with loved-ones, and that's it. Studies again."

[Marriedwith2]

Now... who will step up to defend these school shooters and attack you? hmm I wonder...

What type of slimeball would defend these domestic terrorists?

https://bipartisanreport.com/2018/05/18/trump-supporter-brings-gun-to-school-moments-after-shooting-chaos-ensues-video/
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Oh... right

[Boppy]

Two things:
1. I've seen a lot of people saying that white men in general are dangerous because of school shooters (even my own mother). I've had people joke about me when I'm sad calling me a school shooter.

2. Lone wolf refers to someone who went deep into extremism but then acted alone. It's a technical term. It's in contrast to someone who teamed up with others or someone who was recruited and underwent training and instructions before an attack.

[UncleJessieRabbit]

@Boppy I feel sorry your own mother says that stuff.

[Boppy]

@UncleJessieRabbit Thanks. She's a great person in general, but falls into a lot of stereotypes when talking politics. The fix for prejudice is not prejudice against a different group...

[Robertcw]

good points

[UncleJessieRabbit]

@Boppy I know, but it is sad how easy it is for people even close family members to buy into negative or bad influence and stereotypes.

[pajamasam]

That's a very interesting theory. Incels always make me sad. Because every guy has been at a point in his life where he felt worthless. These guys have just went so far off the deep end no one wants to help them and when people do try to help they spew hateful incel theory at them instead of trying to improve.

I wish I knew a way to help those guys.

[UncleJessieRabbit]

So do I man.

[Raym0nd]

I do Not identify as an INCEL.
It is a symptom of a much darker deeper problem in society/culture as a whole.
As for men being Involuntary Celibate. I am cursed as well.
We are in fact being forcefully
Driven to the point of rage.
For those lucky enough to find/have support. We tolerate the best we can

[MAINEVENTMAFlA]

But you are not cursed find a fat girl and fuck her even a girl in shape in her 40s who is pretty will probably let any guy fuck her. You are just not trying. I have not been laid in a long time but there are options just because you cannot get the girl you want doesn't mean you can't get laid.

[Raym0nd]

Thanks man

[UncleJessieRabbit]

I do not know for a fact if my lifetime fate is truly involuntary celibacy but I might get paranoid about it because of how things turned out for me personally in the past. But I do not feel ill or take it out on other people of either gender.

[UncleJessieRabbit]

Really I think the bigger picture of school shooting and shootings at any kind of place in general goes more beyond the self-described "Incel" specific movement or belief.

I could understand partly where you were getting at with the War analogy.

[AynonOMouse]

School shootings have to do with repeated bullying and people not being able to handle much mentally because of the coddling/participation trophy kind of society we have now.

[YakubDavid]

It's bullying/societal injustice That's the main reason. Once it reaches it's peak, some will suicide, others will take people they hate with them.

[MAINEVENTMAFlA]

It is that definitely but what it all comes down to is mental health I mean years ago in my area some kid took a bomb to school kids in my school took guns to school and got caught luckily back then people ignore red flags especially parents and this is why these things happen they could have nipped the problem in the bud.

[Robertcw]

So I just watched 'Joker' last night for the first time. And let's be honest, that guy was basically dying from starvation due to being unable to afford food. Living alone is a shitty appartment. Got no mail. No phone calls. No friends and no sexual relationships.

And his mom lied to him about adopting him.

And he got fired from his job after he got jumped. And so he tries standup comedy and his performance is taped and goes viral because people are mocking him everywhere because of his medical condition of u controllable laughter caused by brain-damage he acquired from child abuse from his mom's ex-boyfriend.

Basically, his entire life was already over because he had to be in his 40's at the time of the movie. His mom must have been 60's or 70's.

He spent his teens, 20's and 30's desperately trying to lift his mom out of poverty and care for her in old age.

But he never did. In the end, a coworker of his buys him a gun after he got jumped in the name of self-defense.

And he uses it on a subway while he's getting jumped for the second time in the movie, by a group of guys who were sexually harassing a woman on a subway. She asks him for help, and he does, but he starts laughing uncontrollably and the guys get pissed off and basically he ends up on the ground getting kicked when he shoots one one of the guys in the face from the floor. The other two guys begin to run away and he chases them down in a clown costume and shoots them both in the back multiple times. This is what starts his killing spree and what causes 'The Joker' to be born. Pretty crazy.

I think it would have to get to that point for anyone to decide to shoot anybody though. Which is really dire and extreme.

[PeteyB]

And then those same incels reject women they think are unattractive yet still out of their league

[Anonymous]

Most school shooters seem to be on anti-depressants, ridilin or valium.

[zagor]

Yeah, except there is no indication attractive people are particularly targeted.

[Games_]

Incels are at fault on why they can't get women

[jwsstein]

What in the living hell was that

[bamesjond0069]

This makes no sense. Try again.

[Gedaria]

What's a incel?

[KaraAyna]

Good mytake

[Luicia]

Yessss