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I think it's because a lot people always find something to complain about. Many don't stop to think about how privileged they are all until someone who is less privileged gives them a Reality Check when they're complaining. Also when your less privileged you don't really have much time to complain because you're too busy trying to make ends meet.
That's exactly why feminists matters most to white women. Because they are not as oppressed as other races of women. Therefore, they have more of an advantage to have their voice heard and change things.
Also, they mainly date white men, so they see, first hand, the advantages white men have over them.
If this was a legitimate explanation I feel whit women wouldn't date white men without motive. It would also mean that there would be no place for feminists that are seeking true equality. This unfortunately is the way feminists are viewed by most people due to the self serving feminists.
@Knuxx I'm not sure it's legitimate, it's just my opinion. There could be many factors. Maybe other races of women don't feel oppressed. But if she is correct in saying white women hold more positions than other races, than this is a possible explaination
I will ask you to point out what you guys have achieved due to feminism?
If we look at it from dating and relationships prospective the stats look grim,
1) The sexual advancement has full filled man's centuries old dream of banging multiple chicks with no consequences and allowed them access to plenty of woman willing to open their legs for mare 2 dates.
While man will enjoy sex with multiple woman but woman biology and psychology dictates them to have emotional connection with a person to enjoy the sex or cum... which may differs among ladies but no female develops it on first date... It serves men in old days we have to stay with 1 for life... which 95% 9mof woman still supports soul mate for life concept.
2) It have also back tracked responsibilities Man have to live up to which society enforces on them... like sole responsibility for house hold, economics and protection.
Which woman love and I think we can agree 95% still want guys to take charge and do all that but majority of guys will say No to it... they have every right to it cuz "You can't claim to destroy Patriarchy and still opt to keep which benefited you from old system" and now we are seeing generations of boys saying,
Equal rights = Equal responsibility
again I am looking for constructive discussion and not attacking anything or anybody by it and please respond to it.
3) The marriage was always concept that benefited woman even in past cuz "wild sexual partners is guys preferd dream... now it have no merits for man but 90% of woman (even lesbians) still want it and as we know guys are saying no it.
There is nothing in it for Man and with modern child care laws... you can even have kids with zero responsibility for their welfare and run away from that "huge responsibility" cuz gov law dictates Kid stay with their Mom till they are 18 and majority of courts favour it to woman.
with Feminism making Single Mom's appear God like and saying it's very very easy Majority of women are doing it... allowing Man to leave it with her and run away from responsibility.
"again it favors majority of Men allowing them to do as they wish"
If we look at this Women have traded easy bread and easy house cleaning jobs (from labour point of view) and now they have to deal with cheaters, still raise kids without man, relationship hastle and people using them for sex, divorce, economics of raising kid and bye bye to dream of SOUL MATE AND STABLE MARRIAGE.
I think you guys are having shorter end of stick... and feminism in theory have hurt you guys in long run
5) Man can even full fill numerous sexual fantasies which Females will never agree to in past cuz they are demeaning to female like whole 1-2 dates gaurantee sex concept or nasty crossplay.
@AlphaGhost you are quite misled. Even in the old days when women had to cook and clean and couldn't work, the man would still cheat. My grandpa left my grandma for another woman and divorced her. Back then, divorced women were seen as whores, so she couldn't remarry. And since she spent all the time raising kids while he worked, she had to job to fall back on. So you should recheck a lot of your opinions, especially when you think the old days were a leave it to beaver episode and not real life.
Also, no most women do not want to fuck a ton of men like you insinuate. Most women want mynogamy, but most men want a ton of girls. Marriage laws protect women from the man ditching her with nothing, as they did in the past. And now that things are changing, so are marriage laws. In California, it's split 50/50 even if the woman makes more money. Also, couples can sign preunps and the man can keep all his toys if he wants. Also, it is not mandatory to get married. It's a choice
That's cuz your Religion portray them as whore and they are widows with nothing,
We don't have that problems cuz at-least my religion supports 2nd marriage for woman and 905 of time Man is ashamed for Divorce not woman and Woman have right to ask for divorce whenever they want from 7th century AD.
More than that it only seems to really matter to women from a certain class where they don't really have to work as their families are financially well off and if they failed all their courses at Uni/College it would not really effect their work prospects as they would tend to end up working for a friend of the family.
Lmao, women in general are oppressed even white women.
There was a black male president before a female president.
Smh, whites in USA as WHOLE have more white people. Some states have more Hispanics and black but collectively as a country it’s still predominantly.
Women in politics is not common place, and in many other careers
White women are far from oppressed.
We had a black president because the WHITE FEMALE candidate who was running against him had a far more unattractive track record than his.
Whites are the group that are overcounted the most in the U. S. censuses, since the 80s, and white women are the group that is overcounted the most in every census. Blacks make up more than "13%" as we have been told for decades, as we have more children than whites and populate urban areas heavily, while more rural and suburban areas are populated by whites but not as much as with blacks.
To date, a few hundred white women have held seats in the U. S. government compared to blacks and other races who don't have a few hundred to brag about and not as for long.
You are obviously not reading any history, or present for that matter.
Girl bye. WOMEN are oppressed in general which is why MEN make more money for the SAME job
They might. But women are getting plenty of their own perks where men are not. It evens out.
https://www.payscale.com/data/gender-pay-gap
The point is there have only been a small number of women that ran for president and none of them ever won. Black or white. Hilary Clinton is not the only women to ever run for President
Not sure what “perks” you’re referring to considering perks only happen for very good looking people in general or wealthy people.
The only thing that pays the bills is a paycheck
Women don't become president because even most other women are not supportive of a female being president. Women are said to be the most influential "voting bloc" but they themselves are not even really voting for their own.
"Not sure what “perks” you’re referring to considering perks only happen for very good looking people in general or wealthy people."
- You can't possibly be that naive. You just shot yourself in the foot. Those perks DO happen for very good looking women, and when they're good looking and wealthy they get them even more.
Not sure how I “shot myself in the foot” when most people in general aren’t very good looking. Most people are of average appearance.
Other than, not sure how opening a door is going to pay the bills or being called “emotional” for having an opinion, even a logical one is a perk.
Once again, only a paycheck pays the bills
This is the most idiotic comment I've read so far
Most honest comment so far. It is accurate and historically accurate. Women, any race, don’t make what men make for the same job. Men of all races had the right to vote before women did. Facts.
interactive.aljazeera.com/.../index.html
https://www.payscale.com/data/gender-pay-gap
The fact that you think white women on average are comparable to women of colour is laughable and shows just how delusional you are. The majority of white women are from developed nations that respect human rights. This doesn't even need arguing at this point.
You know there's a world outside your comfort bubble.
Yes men did have rights before women, but we aren't there anymore, and you definitely have no experience on what it's like to live like that so get over yourself
I never said that though. I said women in general are oppressed. I never said anything about being the equivalent to a black woman.
You invented that. It was never said. Stop putting words in people’s mouth.
This man said that women shouldn’t get equal pay and should be happy with “perks”
And you are insulting all the successful non-white women by saying they can’t be successful when they surely have or trying to act like we’re different species or something.
There is real racism but I will say, I have seen a lot of invented “racism”. Like because they were told no or didn’t get the job it was racist. Funny enough, it was a black woman that got the job but he sure was screaming racism and after that started screaming sexism. So you can stop pretending like it’s the 1850’s. Oprah would laugh in your damn face and Beyonce too. They worked their asses off and never let their skin determine their future. That’s real right there.
There’s more non-racists than racists. Stop using the extremists as examples
You keep inventing bullshit to confirm your thinking in your head. Which also makes you an extremist on the other end
@anniisa Yep, you nailed it completely.
I haven't invited anybody.
You easily shrugged his argument off and said "All women are oppressed" (they aren't btw) basically saying that his people of colour argument is invalid.
Women do not get equal pay because most of us settle down and become mothers, we dont stay in employment as long as men. We also choose different careers. Its not that difficult to understand.
I'm not talking about women of colour in the West, hence why I mentioned majority of white women are from countries that respect human rights...
It's funny how all the women you brought up are from Weatern countries. Like I said, there's a world outside your comfort bubble. If you really had any knowledge on what you're talking about you wouldn't be acting like your so oppressed. You're not.
Also, nice try in trying to discredit me by saying I'm extreme. I never once mentioned anything about racist people either. What are you talking about?
@anniisa, if you think because a man is black he’s on your team you’re kidding yourself. Just like this man showed. He’s not for you because he’s not for women and YOU are a woman. Black men can be sexist too.
I didn't even know he was black. For someone who claims I'm extreme you sure seem pretty race obsessed
I didn’t shrug off anything. You invented that crap
Girl, make up your damn mind. Lmao, I’m race obsessed... to a discussion that’s about race? Hmmm... okay lol
Is this it? That's your comeback? No real argument left on your part then. I rest my case, just a typical scenario when debating feminists like you.
It’s not a comeback, lol. I’m not trying to insult you or argue with you. This is so dumb lol. This is what I’m talking about. Inventing crap, then trying to start an argument when we clearly agree.
Then you run to defend a man that’s sexist and doesn’t believe that you deserve equal pay. You insult white women then fall back on your words and say that women, in general, including white women aren’t in business the way men are which is exactly what I initially said.
You are arguing with someone that you agree with and are making the same points, smh
If you agree then fair enough. My point was that women in the West are not oppressed, so it's silly when white women act like they're a victim of society.
He never said anything sexist under your comment. He was just stating the differences in how women and men are treated in society. A good looking woman can get away with a lot, its true. It doesn't need to be sexist to point this out.
Yes he did... his response to unequal for women, all women is:
“They might. But women are getting plenty of their own perks where men are not. It evens out”
Which means he doesn’t believe women should get equal pay...
That’s some sexist crap right there
I see it now @ManOnFire feel free to say so if that's not how you meant it. But it does sound like he was saying that women deserve a pay gap because they get other perks that men are not entitled to.
The thing is though the pay gap was debunked a long time ago. It's non existent. So this whole argument is invalid to begin with.
Where has it been debunked? There’s tons of information that states otherwise and that’s exactly how he meant it.
Omg, you really gonna defend him lol
Where did I defend him? there's no point putting words in people's mouths if that's not how they meant it. It's the same with my first response to you. It could have been read as how you interpreted it. Though I clarifidd that I'm referring to the rest of the world outside the West. I genuinely dont see where I've "Defended him" and I haven't. Asking people to clarfiy what they meant to avoid misunderstandings isn't defending someone.
I've already spoken about the pay gap and I dont like going round in circles so you can read it back.
Girl... you been defending him. Even after he clearly said that.. you gonna say “what did you mean by that?” lol. He said as clear as possible.
www.google.com/.../gender-wage-pay-gap-charts-2017-3%3famp
Ok it looks like we aren't getting anywhere. I'm really not interested in viewing stats when like I said this whole thing was debunked a while ago.
Being open minded and unbiased is not a root everyone takes. I get it.
Enjoy your day.
@anniisa I wasn't saying that women deserve a pay gap. I was saying that things even out between genders. Where women lack, they're still getting something else that men aren't.
I'm wondering now if this pink anon is actually a black woman. And if so, and she's defending the situation this hard, that's even worse.
They are the most entitled, privileged group of humans to ever exist on the planet so they are bored and spoiled and need something to whine about, so they make up false victim narratives to play victim and get attention like a spoiled child who wants it's parents attention.
Probably because feminism has always been a movement for white women.
Feminism is less about equality and more about getting revenge and getting back at men.
Its usually filled with disgruntled upper class white women
Because there white. White peoples in general have this false sense of entitlement. They believe they own this plant we live on... no one owns this earth
@treetreena No, we don't "own" the planet, we have just been put in charge of big chunks of it.
Racist, much?
You first have to understand what "feminism" really is. Whites are the majority race in the US, in the 60's even more so. Things like feminism are the result of our culture being attacked through our educational institutions. White women act that way because they've had their heads messed with by experts.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/knOwcZ0y5IEIf you want to get a grasp of what was done this video is a good place to start.
Because you're a racist. Everything is about race to you. So naturally, you see differences in how the races respond, or should respond, to different things. You're looking through your race-based glasses, and confirmation bias is blinding you to reality.
Because Leftist White Women in Western countries want the slice of the victim cake by riding the coattails of the actual oppression of Non-Whites, when they themselves are the most overprivileged group on the face of this earth.
Because they are spoiled, entitled, delusional. Third wave feminists are trash of earth.
Is the third wave those men hating, and women superiority ones?
I feel you should only consider another person to be trash if you can prove without a shadow of a doubt that they were using feminism for personal gain.
@WalkingCorpse Yes.
Because white women are the most privileged people in existence. They have so little to complain about that they get bored and start making up shit to complain about
Yes it's very hard to believe , as white men are gentlemen compared to every other ethic race. Knowing we are treated as hell by most men, except in the western world were white men literally are the real victims treated as hell
Minority women don't protest as much because they are scared to and brainwashed. When 60% of black women are molested, and half of Chinese men admit to abusing a woman and the women of their cultures continue to stand by them, that tells me one thing, minority cultures=cults. Not that all minorities are bad people, but the wise ones need to avoid being seduced by the dark aspects of their culture which put vague notions of racial solidarity and white privilege over truth and justice.
Because of entitlement syndrome.
Don't you get tired of this topic? How many times does this need to be done on here?
he clearly has some beef with white women. they are always on his mind.
@DianaWest Is he racist?
from his posts, yes.
@aislin9 I actually don't write about feminism very often. Having said that, you have only dodged answering the question.
@DianaWest Actually I am on your mind much more often and you are much more racist because every time I talk about white women you show up on my posts just to get in your feelings about it. And these are the only posts of mine you ever come on.
smh racism has become so loose of a term these days
@TheLittleInnocent
Racism:
"the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."
and
Sexism
"prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex"
So in this case, this post is matches both sexist AND racist accepted definitions.
Aislin the typical snobby arrogant sociopathic white girl.
@Yennefer Because I don't like racism and sexism? All you have are insults based on nothing.
@Yennefer "typical snobby arrogant sociopathic white girl". thanks for providing an excellent example of racism and sexism.
Cause men keep making fucked up decisions. Not all men obviously... but the good ones never win power.
But what does that have to do with WHITE women giving so much more of a damn about it than other women?
@ManOnFire I reckon you are talking about the NEO-LIBERAL feminist movement. This comes from being raised with feminist values for 3 generations.
I'm anarchist, so I don't relate to that movement. For me what matters is having strong allies of all genders and races. To defeat this made-up Money God and Master Bank. Lmao
It just so happens that Western banks are all owned by white men. And white men tend to be the billionaires that own everything. White men also own the media. It's not the responsibility of black women to change the narrative. They are busy trying to protect their whole communities.
White women essentially maintain capitalism with modern day feminism.
Behind feminism I think there is a lot of money invested in some countries to promote this ideology that from my point of view nowadays damages relationships between men and women and, as you've said "They have actually been given a lot of favor above other races of women and even men". I don't like feminists.
The irony of it is that western white women today are literally the most privileged and entitled class of humans in the history of humanity, and yet they claim to be "oppressed". Craziness.
@hi_it_is_me123 If it bothers you so much then you have two choices. Either ignore the questions or quit whining and DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE CORE PROBLEM.
@hi_it_is_me123 You already have. You've been making a complete ass of yourself here for many months. Are you telling us you're going to get even worse? LMAO
Most of the guys you call "incles" are not. They are just fed up with females like you. For example, I'm married to a normal girl, unlike you. She thinks immature, whiny, "victim" minded girls like you are just pathetic and she resents how you make the rest of your gender look.
You really just need to grow the fuck up. That's all.
@hi_it_is_me123 Yes, anyone who disagrees with you is "a stupid piece of shit" and gets insulted by your own admission. But you are the reasonable one? Sounds more like a troll!
because entitled white womens are broken and need something to cling to and make meaning to their life... particularly the more undesireable ones