Men are not less empathetic than women! (Page 2)

[soleil6997]

Certainly equally emotional and equally empathetic. Men tend to make more moves, women tend to make sure they are available for male moves, and welcoming of them, when they care

[Syrian_survivor]

I think both sexes should have control over showing their emotions to some extent, fully putting your emotions out there for literally anyone is bad for you

[jabariw18]

From my experience, women have more empathy for other women, or children and animals. Men have more empathy for everyone.

[startingfitness]

this is true.

But telling men to cry is still bad advise. No one respects men who cry and women aren't attracted to men who cry.

[navyrobin]

I didn’t say you should cry. All I said was to not be afraid to express emotions, which can be in different ways. What I’ve noticed is that being that men are equally emotional, they usually express it through violence or drinking, smoking, overindulgence of any other kind like gambling. It’s their way of escaping from crying or seeking therapy

[startingfitness]

Well, those are some of the ways which seem acceptable for men to express our emotions. But ok lol no one smokes to release their emotions. Unless we are talking about the green stuff.

[navyrobin]

Yes, people smoke to release their emotions. Lol maybe you just haven’t met a lot of people who smoke?

[startingfitness]

I used to smoke and know many smokers. I don't know anyone who relates their smoking with emotions? People smoke because its a habit and it can make them calm and get rid of some stress as far as i know. I haven't heard or known of anyone who controlled their emotions this way.

[navyrobin]

Getting rid of stress and feeling calm are both results of "venting" or doing something that makes you feel better. I know how smoking feels like and it feels the same way after I cry. Calm, like I've just told all my darkest/most painful secrets to someone. It's weird in a way but it's true

[startingfitness]

maybe its different for women then. i haven't heard any guys say how it affects their emotions.

[Anonymous]

Women view themselves as more empathetic. That’s all.


They might be more sympathetic.
And they are certainly more emotionally reactive, so that seems more like where this mistake comes from.

[navyrobin]

Men also view women as more emotional

[Opinion Owner]

It’s a bit nebulous, but are they wrong.

[navyrobin]

According to science yes...

[Opinion Owner]

According to science, women are more emotionally reactive.

[navyrobin]

Emotionally reactive, no. Emotionally expressive, yes.

[Opinion Owner]

Emotionally reactive, yes. You're just making up a new term that means the same thing but sugar coating it for some reason.

[navyrobin]

Um... No, I’m not. Emotionally reactive means that you’re reacting based on emotions. Emotionally expressive, not necessarily. You can be extremely expressive and exaggerate your feelings. Different things.

[mrArcher]

Wow, thank you.
Coming from a woman, it's much more reassuring.

[jshm2]

You used a lot of words to say nothing.

You could have simply stated that old gender tropes are not established in facts.

[navyrobin]

It’s called a myTake for a reason.

[fonduegirl]

They're just not very expressive, yeah?

[navyrobin]

😂 in summary yes actually

[Anonymous]

Women are also good hypocrites unfortunately men are brutally honest.

[navyrobin]

What?

[Incelmax666]

Actually, women are less empathetic. Have you ever seen a woman who will sacrifice her life for her country, like male soldiers do? nope

[navyrobin]

Yes actually. Maybe you haven’t because you choose to ignore when it happens.

[Incelmax666]

nope. I've never seen such a thing personally, but maybe Im wrong

[navyrobin]

I have... plenty of times /:

[Incelmax666]

Not me. I've never seen a woman save anyone's life

[igravenbunny]

Thats not what the studies say, buddy. Shush, incel. xx

[rienna888]

I think men tend to express their sadness in anger

[Ranasal_Gansen]

Hooray for empathy

[hfxfhjkko]

Thats true men have feelings too

[Bigdaddy1992]

Disagree

[navyrobin]

lol It doesn’t change the fact

[Anonymous]

On average, you are just factually incorrect.

[navyrobin]

Lol.

[Opinion Owner]

Emotions are not just physiological responses. They are also cognitive appraisals of your experience. Your study findings only demonstrate a similarity in physiological responses.

Sources: two-factor model of emotions.

[Opinion Owner]

Also the study probably didn't investigate responses to a vast breadth of stimuli.

[navyrobin]

Exactly, but our cognitive interpretation of such biological responses are largely influenced by the way we are taught by our social environment on how we should see our own feelings. This is why, when a man and a woman react in the exact same way to a stimulus, the woman is seen as overreacting whereas the man can only “react”, even though they had the exact same expression.

Not only do women interpret their feelings differently because of this, but also other people interpret women’s reactions in an exaggerated manner, because people are biased.

Also, instead of just saying “You are factually incorrect” I suggest learning a little more on the topic and reading the entire Take. Just some advice I think you could really put to use.

[Opinion Owner]

You are saying culture influences how we express our emotions and appraise them, which is probably true, but you don't seem to acknowledge that this doesn't prove the point of your MyTake. At best you are saying I don't have evidence that the claim is wrong, but you still don't have the evidence that women, on average, experience empathy at the cognitive level as much as men do, on average.

[Opinion Owner]

Also I suspect that if we did look at cross-cultural studies we would find that self-report measures of empathy we would find similar gender discrepancies across the globe.

[Opinion Owner]

@shchhcloorb I await the reply.

[navyrobin]

When people say that men are less emotional or less empathetic, they are referring to the innate biological responses which is what I referred to in my Take. Whether or not YOU as a person interpret your emotions differently than the person next to you is something entirely different which is what you don’t seem to acknowledge.

People are incredibly biased and we can’t rely on self reports. Mostly, people base this of
off confirmation bias events where they only remember women being more expressive but not when men hold their emotions inside or express these emotions in another way such as overindulgence, addiction or violence.

Men are just as emotional.

It’s fine if you disagree though, you have your own mindset and you’re free to think whatever you want.

[Opinion Owner]

You just continue to neglect the cognitive aspects of emotion.

[Opinion Owner]

Also self-report data is incredibly important for psychotherapy. Otherwise we wouldn't even know the emotions you talk about are pervasive. If we only employed methodology to guage people's physiological reactions to stimuli, we would only know that certain physiological reactions transpire in the face of certain stimuli. That hardly provides us with a clear picture of all that is experienced during stimulus reception though. You have a very ignorant view of how research on emotions, and psychology more broadly, ought to be conducted.

[navyrobin]

I’m not neglecting the cognitive aspects of emotion, all I’m saying is that these cognitive aspects are largely influenced by cultural expectations, so they are extremely biased, so biased that we can’t rely on them for scientific data if we’re going to scrutinize who’s truly more “emotional”. People also seem to forget that the very word “emotional” isn’t just about crying and being clingy. It’s also about being aggressive, violent, impulsive and more prone to crime. Statistically, men are higher in all these things, which are highly emotional traits.

[navyrobin]

Again, I did not say self report wasn’t important or relevant. But it is biased. If we’re going to answer such a simple yet complicated question such as “who’s more emotional?” we ought to rely on more solid data, which happens to be physiological responses.

[navyrobin]

Also my claim was that men and women experience similar emotions. That was my claim. One isn't more emotional than the other