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Abortion ISN’T murder or bad! (Page 2)
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Women have the choice, it’s simple really.
if after professional advice was given and a decision was made, then it’s the woman’s decision.
the only bit that is slightly wrong, is that there is often emotional scaring after an abortion is sort, this a woman will carry with her through life, it’s not always an easy straightforward decision.
life is not black and white, nor are the decisions that people make throughout it, sometimes hard decisions are made.
The child should not be executed for having a stupid mother. One , apparently she is not ready for sex if she can't take care of the baby. Two, she messed up with the birth control. It amazes me how the baby is punished with the death penalty for someone else's mistake. That is like grabbing people off the street and executing them because someone was killed. Then again these are same people panic over a virus that kill one person out of 200,000 it infects.
@888theGreat or maybe she was with a lowlife like you, who stealthed her by slipping of the condom and cumming in her. Or maybe you giving in to your obvious woman hating side and raping one (again?).
The woman has the choice, be happy in your 6th Century mind.
go back to playing with yourself
@888theGreat if you have a choice then everyone has a choice.
It’s a persons choice, not some religious bollox etc.
I think it’s incredibly ironic for many pro life people to rage on about forcing women and girls to have their babies but when that baby is born and in a bad situation they don’t care anymore, it’s generally the right who think this and generally the right who are opposed to welfare and blame parents on kids growing up to be criminals or addicts or something when that parent maybe had no choice in the matter
Where did you hear that? Is that just "common knowledge"? Certainly, some pro-lifers are also irresponsible shits who don't support their children, but what makes you think that is the rule and not the exception?
Well i can just connect the dots. In america, it’s the right who oppose abortion and who oppose womens rights and welfare. Also, I kept saying generally because I didn’t want to generalise and upset any prolifers on here
I wish we could get away from joining a team, left or right, and catagorizing people by that alone. I know moderate republicans and moderate democrats who are more alike than not. I'm not a fan of abortion, but I don't believe I have the right to control other's live. I do object to the claims made in the original post because scientifically they aren't true. It's tempting to see one piece of evidence that supports one's own beliefs and decide that it is proof.
They aren't pro life. They just want to tie down a woman and they wanna put her on her place so that she won't even dare to be successful in life or have any sort of fun. They view women as a SLAVE.
Killing an unborn child is in fact murder, by law. Anyone who kills an unborn child is legally considered a murderer, per the Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act#:~:text=The%20Unborn%20Victims%20of%20Violence,listed%20federal%20crimes%20of%20violence.
There is only one exception to that law, and that is the medical professional who the mother has legally authorized to murder her child for her.
I have always found it sadly ironic that a father who walks away from his child because he is not ready to be a parent is called a deadbeat dad, but a mother who kills her own child inside her body because she is not ready to be a parent is viewed with sympathy and compassion. WTF?
Do you think that a cognitively disabled person deserves to live? If you say yes, so does a human being without a developed brain. You can’t erase the fact that the fetus contains the ingredients that make human life. A baby’s brain isn’t fully developed yet we take care of them so they can grow and mature. Same with a fetus, we let it grow in our bodies so it can develop mental capacities and more. How is this different than a fetus?
I mean I get it, but a clump of cells and a 24 week old fetus are totally different. A baby born at 24 weeks can survive. That said, I'm not in the business of policing what other women do with their bodies.
A fetus is just an individual clump of cells. A child is just a bigger clump of those same cells with a few newly developed abilities. An adult is just a biggest clump of those same cells, fully developed. Correct?
I'm fine with women deciding, do whatever you want, but that baby is a person.
A foetus is not a person.
@acooke-13 why not? Gatekeeper
@snackthatsmilesback Because it physically and mentally, is not. Which is why it's only legal to get an abortion up until it becomes a baby (after 24 weeks?) :)
@acooke-13 "because it isn't" isn't a reason. And it used to be illegal so obviously the law isn't a good biological standard.
Come on give me something here, why isn't it a person?
@snackthatsmilesback if it was a person, women would be sent to prison for murder, or manslaughter if they could get away with that. Also, if you literally use your search engine, Google why it isn’t classed as a person, it’ll help :)
@acooke-13 again, legally doesn't matter here. They USED TO go to jail for abortions. Some countries still do that. So I could just as easily say that proves they are people but it doesn't law doesn't PROVE anything biological/ethical etc.
If they are not people, then they are not people regardless of whether the law says. People came first.
Abortion IS HOMICIDE. Life begins at conception. Why should that person's (a fetus is a person at an early stage of development, not an object) existance be erased because of the choices you made resulting in pregnancy. Maybe the kid who's life you chose to snuff would have been the one that finds the cure for cancer, or AIDS, or some other world changing thing. All life is precious.
Ofcourse it isn't.
People should stfu and mind their own business. Anyone forcing a woman to keep the baby should be sued. It's her body and her choice.
This world is already overpopulated and many people don't know how to be a real parent.
First of all abortion is murder no matter what at 24 weeks, their are videos showing a 24 week old fetus who is crawling away inside the womb besides at 24 weeks after they kill your child they sell it’s organs on the black market I be can back my information up and I’m ready for a debate but if u are for abortion then u must be a liberal and a democrat
Abortion is murder and is bad. No-one has right to take away lives of babies and fetuses. When you have sex without protection, you both are consenting a formation of a new life- the fetus and baby from formation to birth. Thankfully more and more states are becoming illegal for abortion to happen when the fetus has a heartbeat and do expect that to grow in different states and even better than this legislature. People who wants abortions do not deserve to be humans, let alone being 'parents'.
And women still ask why there are no good men left, after their 30'ies.
This is one of the reasons why 50% of women in the west are childless and single by the age of 40.
Empathy is ( was ) a feminine characteristic that men look for in a partner, if you descrive a living being growing inside of you, just because you were horny one day, as a ''clump of literal cells'', ho boy... Im guessing that number will rise up to 70% in next generations, specially with hookup culture rising nowadays.
Even if it is murder, it's better than unplanned babies. Parents who are not mentally or financially prepared can do much worse.
True. I have an abusive and controlled mother and I finally freed myself after realizing that my low self esteem, my internal fears and self criticism was because of her. Now I'm free and parenting myself.
*controlling mother
Thank you for solidifying my answer and God bless
Whenever you stop a heart it is killing. Yes it is murder and population control. Liberal social engineering. It is immoral. It doesn't matter what you think but what God thinks. Tell him in your defense when you stand before him.
Science said don't wear a mask then wear a mask. Science said human race would extinct from Global Warming 10 years ago. That Florida would be under water and fish would be swimming up broad way. I wouldn't put much faith in Science.
God died a long time ago.
@Kas19 Who gave you this knowledge?
Look around you.
@Kas19 God is right here close to me. People do things to themselves , not God.
Interesting.
Do aborted fetuses go to heaven?
@Archerer The babies go to heaven and age to 33 . The perfect age is considered 33 , so they will be 33 in actual metaphysical bodies.
So if they go straight to heaven, how is it bad? We've relieved them of their earthly sin and pain and sent them straight to heaven, based on your logic abortion is the best thing you could possibly do for something.
@Archerer Because women don't get to play God and decided who lives or who dies. Only God can really create life and decide when that life will end.
Clearly not since you just said they go to heaven...
@Archerer but the women will go to Hell for killing.
Sounds like a minor sacrifice when you can send as many fetuses to heaven as you can, almost Jesus-like if you ask me.
@Kas19 The Bible foretold that all these things would be happening in the last days. I'm pretty sure He is still around.
@Daniela1982 Totally.
@Daniela1982 Let me tell you how I know. This is a true story. My dad died 8 years ago and not that he was a bad person, but he used the language and had a temper. He would pick anyone up that needed help even if they had on a hockey mask and an ax with blood dripping from it. He had epilepsy and never made it past 8th grade. He installed a great work ethic in all three sons and worked almost all of his life. He got blood cancer and had seven days to live and the doctor was right , he lived like 7 more days to the minute. I was concerned he might not make it. I saw him while he was in between dying and still living and he was being asked questions from someone (I believe Jesus) and was answering. So, I prayed for God to show me a sign that he made it. At my office I had a nearly dead fluorescent bulb and all of the sudden it lit up like a new bulb for 3 days and then went out. That told me yes he made it (probably by the skin of his teeth) and significance of 3 days referred to Jesus being dead but coming back to life. Now believe what you want , but that convinced me that God is real, and will answer prayers of the faithful. I had instant peace and was over my dad's death. I also figure I must have favor with God (not as much as King David ) for him to answer a peasant like me.
I'm not against abortion. Having a child when you're not ready can make the parents do some crazy things. However I think abortion is murder bc its a full DNA construct that will develope into a human. By saying it can't feel pain doesn't mean anything. I think abortion is a good thing but that doesn't mean I like it.
Abortion is a woman’s choice.
But sorry little lady, just to clarify, a moving 24 week old fetus isn’t a ‘clump of cells’.
I am more indifferent to abortion because as a conservative I don't believe the government has the right to tell someone what to do with their own body but remember in the eyes of the law a fetus isn't a person. That does not mean that fetus isn't a person though. The law is not always right.
I honestly don't think anyone but the girl herself has a say in the matter whether or not to have a baby its pretty damn simple
To have a bunch of old ass judges decide such a personal matter is revolting and gross
We have billions of children starving and homeless and poor and nobody gives a fuck. But all the sudden a girl decides not to have a baby we crucify her? Like holy shit the hypocrisy!! lmfao 😂
This world really makes no sense at all sometimes lmfao
We have judges because I think you are an ass hole and you don't think you are, there by a judge is needed to settle it or it would be fastest gun deciding it.
The picture you're showing isn't a clump of cells, it's a person.
Shooting a person in the head is painless too. Does that make it right?
I'm not going to tell you what to do with your body, that's your choice, but your scientific justification paints a picture that is far from complete.
Nature is one of the two most respected scientific journals, the other being Science.
https://www. nature. com/articles/pr200950
There is no scientific justification for abortion. It's murder, plain and simple. It is the mecca of those who would live a dissolute life and escape its consequences. Teaching this garbage to kids is irresponsible. Kids should be taught to develop positive traits that prepare them for successful living in the future, such as good judgement and self control. Deliberate abortion favours neither.
Abortion violates "Inclusive Fitness" which is a necessary component for a life form to succeed. Therefore abortion is wrong and meets an Objective definition of "Evil"..
It is one of the most extreme, dripping-evil forms of murder possible. Reee is not an argument. You're an ageist.