mgtow itself is not a "movement" its a lifestyle, we are nothing like feminists. feminists encourages women to stand together and bitch and whine about their imaginary problems while we mgtow just accept that the world is a bitch to us men but insist that there are still solutions out there.
of course I can keep on going but then I will end up writing a book
LOL mgtow is just a bunch of bitter boys who thing they are accomplishing something by removing themselves from the market. They are actually doing women a big favor by doing it. No woman in her right mind would want to do anything with some boys in a misogynistic hate group. Good riddance I say.
Lol I love seeing good people dance with the devil. Clearly you are bothered by them going their own way. Such passion in that comment. I'd research it if I were you, you wanna make sure your opinion isn't under developed. You have the passion. Another guy seem to know the subject well. He seemed confident in his comments anyway. Maybe ask @Shamalien to help develop your opinion on the subject. Then maybe you can do a mytake for us here on GAG.
@BUTIMRIGHTTHO hahah oh sweetie, I think you are confusing dislike with passion. Next time I feel like having some random boy try and mansplain something to me Ill be sure to let you know ;)
Listen... It takes a big person to try to understand instead of hate. If you want the world to be better... Be better. I think I used passion just right but I am sincerely sorry if my comment upset you. It is hard to convey tone of voice through text. I'd never use sarcasm. My mentor informed me never to use it. It's a trait that belongs to a repelling personality. I can only assume you thought I was using sarcasm, otherwise I have no idea why you replied with such distain and sarcasm. @Subarugirl
" No woman in her right mind would want to do anything with some boys in a misogynistic hate group. Good riddance I say."
women, specially millenial and gen z bimbos are already not just dating but committing, marrying and worst of all PROCREATING with the real misogynists out there that treat them like shit. we mgtow do nothing but laugh at you all trying so damn hard to live that fake disney life that you all are desperately after. so we are the ones who say "good riddance" and mean it at the end of the day
Actually over 90% of women plan on getting married while less than 30% of men want marriage. We all know that feminists find motherhood, marriage, and children repulsive. But don't let you solipsism lead you to believe most women feel the way you do.
As for MGTOW, most of them were victims of pretty awful female behavior, usually divorce rape. American women are guilty of some genuine excesses. The position women have is mainly sue to the perception amongst men that women are largely victims etc etc. Once that perception is gone, things are probably going to get unpleasant for women. As more and more men from these groups get elected into office (yes, that has been happening). Never forget that all power women have in society is because men allow women to have that power.
@U4ea0 You do realize that I am married and a mother right? Feminists don't find marriage and motherhood repulsive... unless you are using an extremist minority to represent the rest of the demographic.
as for those percentages... id love to see the evidence that supports them. What study are you referring to?
@Subarugirl you tried to say we mgtow are misogynists and women are better off without us. not that we care but that is again contradicting for the fact that women still go after bad boys who treat them like shit and are far more misogynists than us based on their actions and lifestyle
Double standards and laws all favouring females, the fact as a man a female just needs to say rape and point at a random guy just to ruin his life. The fact you can call mgtow misogynistic and people will agree even if it's not, yet claim anything female as being misandry and it's like the word doesn't exist.
Almost every law favours women over men. Who do courts side with in divorces, women 99% of the time, men have to prove without a doubt the female is not fit at all to take care of the children for a chance at getting custody.
Men and women get put away for the same crime and who gets a lighter sentence, women.
A woman can falsely claim someone raped her and ruin the guys life, that doesn't leave his record even when proven false, what does the false accuser get, she basically gets a slap on the wrist and her life continues like normal.
If a guy calls the cops on his abusive wife, who do you think the cops take away, the man because he might retaliate.
Where the fuck do you get off saying the law doesn't fucking favour women, you're just like the rest of those fucking feminazis.
@Subarugirl not everyone who opposes you is a mgtow. @randomguy1032 is obviously not a mgtow, he's just a desperate troll. trust me if he was an mgtow he wouldn't be expressing any sort of sexual interest in you like a thirsty ass simp
@Subarugirl He is referring to that red pill bullshit. Hypergamy is simply a tendency to marry up. The red pill bullshit states women have a hypergamous nature that permeates all aspects of their life.
Basically its a conspiracy theory that creates a situation that can't be proven, but at the same time you can't disprove it either
This same ideology claims there are alpha males and beta males. They base this off of primate studies (chimpanzees and gorillas). Of course we know that human personality and physical traits are simply far to complicated to classify under only two categories. Besides, I don't know of too many men with muscular bodies and 6'4 that are at the top of anything. Very few of these men have the intelligence, moral integrity, and leadership skills to be top dog in anything.
None of my sisters married up, surely at least one of them would have...
@Heolurt which law specifically, since you are under the impression that there are so many it shouldn't be difficult to provide a few laws that supports your claim.
@Subarugirl. Yeah, but you can't stand your husband and see your kid as a drag chute. You are at your peak sexual value and feel like you are missing out on hard partying.
@KrakenAttackin actually I adore my husband and child… and have no desire to party. So your are blatantly wrong there buddy, as for peak sexual value…. My value is not determined by what you or anyone else is attracted to. So I couldn’t care less about your or anyone else’s opinion on what my sexual value is. I am a person, not a product to be consumed thank you very much. Though I find it comedically ironic that you’re talking about sexual value 😂. But hey what ever makes your feel better about your declining testosterone levels grandpa
@Subarugirl obviously, but the point is that he is not a mgtow because we are not advocate of female violence or violence in general. so please dont pigeon hole us with such imbeciles
You're mistaking Haters with real MGTOW guys, but it's normal and expected that you think that, you're quick to judge and not empathetic enough to understand. As for this empathy strangely women say that they're so empathetic but in reality they're not. Weird.
@Miladin every MGTOW I have met is like that. I’ve yet to find one who isn’t… doesn’t change the fact that the entire movement is rooted in hat and misogyny what ever you’d like to believe. If it really about sovereignty and the right to say no, no one would really have an issue with it, but it’s not.
@KrakenAttackin Except feminism isn't rooted hate and misandry, it's rooted in women having the same constitutional and human rights that men were given. So you could say that one could say the exact same thing about feminism but it wouldn't be true.
@Filthy_Immigrant Well said. These Disney seeking women will eventually destroy their own families by filing for divorce. @Subarugirl has openly talked about getting on her husband and never has a good word to say about him. She baby trapped him at 19, is now 25 and realizing she is at peak SMV and wants to ride the CC, but a pesky husband gets in the way.
@Subarugirl. "Feminism isn't rooted in hate"... are you FUCKING kidding me? Feminism is based on Marxist teachings which is all about division and hatred of "oppression" and "oppressors". Your statement shows a total lack of understanding of feminism.
@KrakenAttackin and you do realized that he asked me to marry him before we found out I was pregnant right? Just because your marriage failed doesn't mean you get to shit on mine hon.
@KrakenAttackin that is incorrect the woman's suffrage movement originates all the way back to ancient Greece. That predates Marxism by a few thousand years... you were saying what about lack of understanding?
In The Book of the City of Ladies, 15th-century writer Christine de Pizan protested misogyny and the role of women in the Middle Ages. Years later, during the Enlightenment, writers and philosophers like Margaret Cavendish, the Duchess of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, and Mary Wollstonecraft, author of A Vindication of the Rights of Woman, argued vigorously for greater equality for women.
Marxism wasn't established until the mid 19th century.
@Subarugirl. You said things run better when he's gone. You certainly have nothing good to say about him. You have posted pictures sexy pictures that are disrespectful as fuck to your marriage. And I bet you treat him like shit.
@Subarugirl. As for the women's suffrage movement, you don't realize more men than women supported giving women the vote. Men made suffrage possible over the desire of most women!
@Subarugirl. Being a feminist I guarantee you will divorce your husband. You will look at him withore and more contempt. You will have the same feelings toward your Son as he grows up and will punish him for the crime of being male, but since you will have destroyed your family by divorcing your husband, you will take your anger out on your son.
@KrakenAttackin so you’re a fortune teller now? My grandmother was a feminist and she stayed married to my grandfather till the day he died. You’re projecting your owns shortcoming onto others, and you’re entitled to feel that way but it doesn’t make it true. Also I have never called myself a feminist, that’s a label you have assigned to me, not one I have accepted.
@Subarugirl I don't need to be a fortune teller to predict the almost certain outcome of your marriage and attitude toward your Son. You will eventually detest your husband and son.
@KrakenAttackin well so far your track record of making correct assumptions so far has been pretty bead but I’ll be happy to prove you wrong. Maybe you’ll even learn a thing about what a successful relationship looks like.
@Subarugirl. Believe it or not I hope I AM WRONG. I hope you are a great wife and mother, but With your feminist/victim mentality I don't know how that would be possible. Please do prove me wrong, for your Son's sake.
@KrakenAttackin well that hope has come true because your are wrong, I’m not a feminist, I’m an advocate for gender equity and just because I have been victimized doesn’t mean I have a victims mentality.
@Subarugirl. The LAST thing feminist want is "gender equality". Equality would mean equal number of female brick layers, suicides, work injuries, a two-thirds reduction in women's health research, a decrease in women's life expectancy, a sharp increase in female disability, prosecution, prison time; and a sharp reduction in the inherent privilege of being female. I repeat, the last thing you want is equality.
this is a common behavior with young bimbos that throw away their youth by rushing into relationships and getting pregnant all in their teen days. they see other younger bimbos around them having fun riding the CC and suddenly they want to join the fun but will go through turbulance because they know they're about to hit the wall soon.
but I already know their outcome. they're gonna fail miserably and even worst their kids are gonna hate them as they get older for them choosing the night/party life over them and feel traumatized for leaving them with different baby sitters every night
@Filthy_Immigrant You realize that I am married to a doctor right? That I single handedly financially supported our family, payed for our rent, and insurance until he graduated with his doctorate 2019. That the last real party that I went to was a Halloween party back when I was 18 years old, unless you want to count family Christmas parties and birthday parties... . That the last time I got a baby sitter was about 4 months ago so that I could take my husband out on a date to his favorite restaurant. That I have only ever had a non family member babysit my child once in the entire time he has been alive. That on top of working 45 hours a week so that I can send my son to a private school, I still cook dinners and pack lunches for my family nearly every single day...
So take seat and shut the fuck up son, you have no idea what you are talking about. I bet you still rent, and cry about how no decent women want anything to do with you while you fuck losers because that's all you can get... if anyone let's you fuck them at all. If I were you, I would take a seat and take notes son...
@Subarugirl I'm already sitting down with my notepad ready to take notes while I laugh my ass off reading your comments. trust me, let's see if you will have this same attitude 5 more years from now when your biological clock starts ringing louder than the Big Ben.
trust me I got female relatives that were once like you and now they hate me because I once gave them the same prediction I'm giving you at the moment and they came true. so yeah I'm not just gonna take notes I'm also gonna get some popcorn as well cause I'm gonna enjoy this
@Subarugirl. And you are wrong about feminism and feminist, the suffrage movement and feminism we're linked AFTER the Marxist pushed it into their ideology.
@Filthy_Immigrant lol of course you are honey 😂 you’re 35, fucking sluts and proud of it… do you want applause or a participation trophy? I see how you just brushed over the part where you were blatantly wrong, but hey what ever makes you feel better about the company you keep and your pathetic little life. Haha thanks I needed a laugh your are funny, at least you have that going for you even though the humor is at your own expense.
@KrakenAttackin an associates is a two year degree… a doctorate of chiropractic is an 8 year degree. Do they have not google where you live or do you just enjoy making factually inaccurate bullshit assumptions?
@Filthy_Immigrant I got married before I had a kid genius. What? You’re mommy and daddy aren’t together anymore so so you’re still acting out about it? Aren’t you a little old to still be acting out about that?
oh that's right you said "pathetic." which last time I checked pathetic and miserable are not so different from each other and often complement one another. but yeah thanks for your concern about my parents, those two divorce and went to war months before I born but nevertheless I seem to live a far more peaceful and smarter life than yours.
never had the need to start a family and find someone to desperately get clingy with all in my teen days just to compensate for the love that my parents never gave me, unlike someone
@Filthy_Immigrant your concerns is so sweet. My parents are still married and madly in love unlike the broken home you grew up in. Take notes honey, then maybe you’ll finally get shown a good example of what it’s like to be a real successful grown up
@Subarugirl. Chiropractors, 8 years, bullshit. A real doctor does four years undergraduate, four years medical school, than a residency, than a specialty! Which is a world away from cracker jack Chiropractor degrees.
@Subarugirl doesn't sound like your parent's so called "success" helped you out in any way. and now I'm not gonna waste my time taking notes on what Walt Disney and his demonic franchise wants me to take notes on. there are far better things in life
@Filthy_Immigrant well let me set the record straight, I’m happily married, happily a mother, business, and home owner. Love my job and my family despite the shortcoming of my upbringing. While your over here throwing your money away on rent and fucking losers… good job your, your 35 years old, wasted your youth and have shit to show for it, grow the fuck up.
@Filthy_Immigrant Well your 35, mid life crisis much? Don’t own your home, paying a landlord… living a little hedonistic life all alone because no one with half a brain would ever make a commitment to you.
@Subarugirl really? is that what life is all about to you? I guess your life is just a grocery list and your needs and so called happiness revolves around being married and clinged to someone. you can't fufill happiness on your own and just confirmed that you do strive for a Disney life afterall, I'm not sure why that sounds so pathetic to me
" mgtow is just a bunch of bitter boys who thing they are accomplishing something by removing themselves from the market." Well since that's there goal, they have accomplish something. They choose to focus on themselves and focus on their own goals outside of a relationships, I think this is fine, I don't understand why woman like you are so bitter about this.
@ColdExtraction because that isn’t really what it is… if it were just that they would just call it what it is, celibacy. They aren’t advocating for celibacy and independence, it’s rooted in hate and misogyny, and I’m sure there are some who get involved that want that, but it mainly attracts men who are angry, hate women yet still want to get laid just not be in a relationship.
@Subarugirl. I am not a MGTOW but I understand their thought process, and I don't think you do. Unlike feminist, MGTOW aren't marching in the streets or petitioning government for "change". These guys are literally just "going their own way". So much of what men do is to build status and wealth to attract a high-value woman, let's be truthful. Many MGTOW have worked hard only to be divorced, cheated on, betrayed, arrested, or otherwise abused by modern women and the gynocracy that enables them. Even many men who are in "stable" marriages aren't very happy as they are slaves to their demanding jobs (have to provider), than they come home to a demanding wife. Men are burning the candle at both ends and still it isn't enough (as demonstrated by the divorce rates filed by women). When you have nothing left to give and it still isn't enough, what does that tell you? Many men feel they can't win with modern women, no matter the effort. These men are walking away and simply doing what makes them "happy". For most men a few hours a week working on a hobby might be enough, but modern women don't see a man's happiness as important. You have to admit that modern women (married or not) don't give a second thought to whether their man is happy or not.
@KrakenAttackin If they were just going their own way , they wouldn't still be so obsessed with women, they would just be single... They may not be marching in the streets but the amount of them who decide to slaughter their families or shooting up concerts or buildings is a tad bit bigger of an issue than a protest. Though this issue seems to be a bit of a double standard for you, you are usually the first to talk about accountability for the part you play in what happens to you... Or does that just apply to women and not men?
@U4ea0 If you are looking at extremist outliers. Feminism is founded on gender equality, its about equal access to rights and opportunity regardless of gender or gender presentation. Its about being seen and treated as an equal, not less than, or property. Men aren't being oppressed by women
@Subarugirl You also have different "schools" of feminism. I have zero issue with equal rights and opportunities under the law. Radical feminism, as taught in many gender studies classes is something else entirely. The first modern feminist was probably de Sade (we get the words sadist, sadistic, and sadism from this guy). Read some of his works if you can stomach them. But, it's all there. That is the crap I have a problem with.
Despite my harsh rhetoric, I don't really find anything truly disagreeable with you or feminists like you. I would say that you and I probably have more in common than otherwise (not that it matters as one single thing is enough to cause people to kill each other). I get treated far worse by the red-pill guys because I see that bullshit for what it is. Basically, the red-pill stuff is probably a less-than-half-truth, just like the bitching about a patriarchy.
Choosing not to get in a relationship has nothing to do with celibacy, of course they aren't advocating celibacy, why would they? this man are simply choosing not to commit to anyone, that's rooted in pain, not hate, mainly do to their bad past relationships, if they no longer want to commit to any women because of it, that's fine. And so what want if they want to get laid just not be in a relationship? we live in the age zero commitment causal sex.
"They may not be marching in the streets but the amount of them who decide to slaughter their families or shooting up concerts or buildings is a tad bit bigger of an issue than a protest."
What the F are you talking about, have I miss the news, what Mgtow guys have done this?
@KrakenAttackin sexy pictures? Are you fucking kidding me, what sexy pictures? Are you talking about dresses that show no cleavage and are longer than my finger tips? You think that is tooo sexy and disrespectful? You want me to wear a burka or something… a hijab? Would that make you feel better?
@Subarugirl I have 15 minutes and then I will be in the goddamned OR, administering anesthesia, for the next TWENTY-TWO HOURS IF THERE ARE NO COMPLICATIONS. Only bathroom breaks. Patient's original anesthesiologist at the last moment decided she couldn't "feel the magic" and wouldn't be able to come in today. I'll consider her sex to be coincidental.
Sorry for my rant. My question for you is, how do you or any other feminist reconcile your ideology with Islam?
There is no manipulating the alleged writings of Mohammed. Islam makes it perfectly clear, in no uncertain terms, the inferior status of women. Islam has not changed since it's creation. Women have virtually no rights under Sharia law. And no true Muslim (or anybody above mediocre intelligence), could ever support democracy (but in the case of Muslims not due to the many inherent practical limitations of democracy but because they view it as idol worship).
I'm wondering in which world you're living but in on Earth of the 21st century the male population has never been more lonely, thirsty and desperate for pussy. We live in a gynocentric society in which the vagina is god and the vast majority of men are worshipping in hoping to get a chance to ejaculate inside that hole. MGTOW will always be a tiny percentage of the male population. So tiny that it's statistically irrelevant.
the world has changed in my life time, as a kid the mums all stayed at home if they had a job it was for pin money, now to get on and move up in life moms have to work as well to buy the house and have money to live on. but more men have a dead end job on zero hours. it tuff out there
As an 18 yr old from Russia, I'd say you have a LOT to learn about the world. Your impressions of MGTOW seem to be nothing more than social media talking points, blurted out by a minority blip on a standard graph. Overall "stupidity" is a bigger threat than MGTOW will ever be.
MGTOW is too small of a thing to make an impact socially IRL in my opinion.
If you want to GYOW then do so, but don't do it because you expect it to impact society, do it because that's what you've determined you want for your own life.
I'm not a MGTOW guy but I considered living that life for a while when I was in my early-mid 20s after a couple of bad relationships. Ultimately it isn't what I chose.
You know nothing of the movement. These guys are not in the victim mindset, they are taking responsibility and the power that comes with it into their own hands
And it’s because of this lack of empathy for male problems, a female lack of empathy for men that men are creating their own spaces to help eachother. Men are always caring about women but it looks like y'all don’t care about us.
@Shamalien She basically has proven that many women are not empathetic towards men's problems even though they claim so openly that they're so empathetic in general. And they see this from their own perspective which is usually filled with victimhood, the thing that the liberals are filling their head with. No darling, MGTOW is not about victimhood and if you were at least curious what MGTOW is for then you wouldn't be so ignorant. I'm sick of ignorant people showing how ignorant they are.
I don't think you know what your talking about, how is going their own way, equals "blames everyone else for their ineptitude except themselves", I think your just projecting here, man don't owe women their commitment.
The only "threat" it offers up is removal men, who are tired of the Feminist Woke bull crap, out of the gene pool. When you like your Yellow Labrador and Dodge Ram pickup better than what women offer, it's time to go.
Mgtow is doing the same thing they criticize modern feminist of doing. Both have a victim mentality and in my experience both groups members have insecurities they refuse to acknowledge and instead find it easier to blame the opposite sex.
@wittymilf In some ways, sure. I'm fine with how things were before the 1990s mostly. Society appears to be in rapid decline that is accelerating. What feminists don't get is that if it collapses 100% of your rights will evaporate the same day and you will be living like women did 3k years ago. Good luck with that.
@wittymilf Doesn't mean I think "women" caused the decline. More like all of the men who simp for women and give women everything they fantasize about are the problem. You see, women don't have to be responsible for their actions like men are. That's clear when you look at conviction rates where if a man & woman do the same crime the guy is much more likely to be punished & he gets a harsher sentence. Just for example. When someone who has little responsibility gets to decide how society runs we get problems. This is true regardless of their gender tho.
@hahahmm you obviously don’t know any strong women who have had to fight to survive. I give my man every thing he wants and more, because I love him… and I love him because I’m strong. Not because I’m weak.
By world do you mean USA? You realize in many ACTUAL parts of the world men operate this way normally? You go preaching feminism in any Eastern European or middle east country even Asian watch what happens.
I do whatever the F I want and have no need of advice from a group of guys who couldn't get laid if they were driving down Hollywood Boulevard waving a stack $100's
MGTOW are like a very unfunny comedian who tries really hard to offend certain people with his joke but the only reaction he gets is awkward silence. If that's your type of humor then the joke's on you.
Amen to that. And if you have a problem with your piping or heating systems, or with your internet or your stove or fridge or your door don't forget to call the female repair girls... if there are any. ;)
@Miladin And this is why women are laughing. You're equating appliance repair skills with relationship skills or being a "quality guy". The fact that you can fix her refrigerator doesn't mean anything more than that. MGTOW is about men who believe the entire spectrum of females in the world want nothing else but to use all men for their money or status to advance their own agenda, and offer nothing in return. That's just not true, but for those who believe it, let them stay single. No one really cares, except them. Like SGirl said, good riddance.
I think it would be funny if the MGTOW's and the Misandrist's got together and had one big hate fuck orgy. LOL
I am married, but dating is exciting. To get to know someone and there being a chance she could want a meaningful relationship. Not talking about sex... being with a woman that likes you is priceless.
When you get older sex is not as high on the list. You will find out that being with someone who loves you back is worth more than Fort Knox. Loneliness hurts like you cannot believe possible.
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Get your head out your ass, and breathe oxygen. You dumbass.
So called "mgtow" isn't even a worthy mention in MySpace, let alone something bigger.
It's just a small group of dipshits that think playing "hard to get" as men, will work out differently for them.
They are gamma males at best and trying to appear more and bigger than they are.
Will probably turn out to be transmen or 50 year old men going through a midlife crisis.
mgtow itself is not a "movement" its a lifestyle, we are nothing like feminists. feminists encourages women to stand together and bitch and whine about their imaginary problems while we mgtow just accept that the world is a bitch to us men but insist that there are still solutions out there.
of course I can keep on going but then I will end up writing a book
LOL mgtow is just a bunch of bitter boys who thing they are accomplishing something by removing themselves from the market. They are actually doing women a big favor by doing it. No woman in her right mind would want to do anything with some boys in a misogynistic hate group. Good riddance I say.
Lol I love seeing good people dance with the devil. Clearly you are bothered by them going their own way. Such passion in that comment. I'd research it if I were you, you wanna make sure your opinion isn't under developed. You have the passion. Another guy seem to know the subject well. He seemed confident in his comments anyway. Maybe ask @Shamalien to help develop your opinion on the subject. Then maybe you can do a mytake for us here on GAG.
@BUTIMRIGHTTHO hahah oh sweetie, I think you are confusing dislike with passion. Next time I feel like having some random boy try and mansplain something to me Ill be sure to let you know ;)
Listen... It takes a big person to try to understand instead of hate. If you want the world to be better... Be better. I think I used passion just right but I am sincerely sorry if my comment upset you. It is hard to convey tone of voice through text. I'd never use sarcasm. My mentor informed me never to use it. It's a trait that belongs to a repelling personality. I can only assume you thought I was using sarcasm, otherwise I have no idea why you replied with such distain and sarcasm. @Subarugirl
I noticed Subarugirl has no breasts at all.
" No woman in her right mind would want to do anything with some boys in a misogynistic hate group. Good riddance I say."
women, specially millenial and gen z bimbos are already not just dating but committing, marrying and worst of all PROCREATING with the real misogynists out there that treat them like shit. we mgtow do nothing but laugh at you all trying so damn hard to live that fake disney life that you all are desperately after. so we are the ones who say "good riddance" and mean it at the end of the day
YOU nailed it
@Filthy_Immigrant actually less and less of them are getting married at all
@Subarugirl
Actually over 90% of women plan on getting married while less than 30% of men want marriage. We all know that feminists find motherhood, marriage, and children repulsive. But don't let you solipsism lead you to believe most women feel the way you do.
As for MGTOW, most of them were victims of pretty awful female behavior, usually divorce rape. American women are guilty of some genuine excesses. The position women have is mainly sue to the perception amongst men that women are largely victims etc etc. Once that perception is gone, things are probably going to get unpleasant for women. As more and more men from these groups get elected into office (yes, that has been happening). Never forget that all power women have in society is because men allow women to have that power.
@U4ea0 You do realize that I am married and a mother right? Feminists don't find marriage and motherhood repulsive... unless you are using an extremist minority to represent the rest of the demographic.
as for those percentages... id love to see the evidence that supports them. What study are you referring to?
@Subarugirl
NO, I did not know you were married and a mother. You never mentioned that, nor did I ask. I am surprised to learn that.
@U4ea0 Yeah, I have been married for nearly 6 years. I am still curious about where you got those numbers though.
@Subarugirl still not stopping them from engaging and starting family with those Khal Drogo types of dudes, which if you ask me is just as bad
@Filthy_Immigrant not as bad as the dudes themselves
@Subarugirl it still contradicts your whole opinion
@Filthy_Immigrant not sure how you came to that conclusion but it doesn't actually.
@Subarugirl you tried to say we mgtow are misogynists and women are better off without us. not that we care but that is again contradicting for the fact that women still go after bad boys who treat them like shit and are far more misogynists than us based on their actions and lifestyle
@Filthy_Immigrant no I actually I didn’t. the MGTOW moment is rooted in misogyny.
It's not, it's rooted in hyoergamy.
Hypergamy
You sound like you want a random boy to fuck you
@Heolurt how so? Please elaborate
@randomguy1032 thanks but my husband and I fucked so good earlier that I won’t walk straight for at least a few days
Double standards and laws all favouring females, the fact as a man a female just needs to say rape and point at a random guy just to ruin his life. The fact you can call mgtow misogynistic and people will agree even if it's not, yet claim anything female as being misandry and it's like the word doesn't exist.
Ill fuck you til you turn into george floyd
@Heolurt which laws favor women? Name one.
@randomguy1032 did you just threaten to rape me to death?…. And you wonder why groups like MGTOW have such a negative reputation….
Almost every law favours women over men. Who do courts side with in divorces, women 99% of the time, men have to prove without a doubt the female is not fit at all to take care of the children for a chance at getting custody.
Men and women get put away for the same crime and who gets a lighter sentence, women.
A woman can falsely claim someone raped her and ruin the guys life, that doesn't leave his record even when proven false, what does the false accuser get, she basically gets a slap on the wrist and her life continues like normal.
If a guy calls the cops on his abusive wife, who do you think the cops take away, the man because he might retaliate.
Where the fuck do you get off saying the law doesn't fucking favour women, you're just like the rest of those fucking feminazis.
@Subarugirl not everyone who opposes you is a mgtow. @randomguy1032 is obviously not a mgtow, he's just a desperate troll. trust me if he was an mgtow he wouldn't be expressing any sort of sexual interest in you like a thirsty ass simp
@Subarugirl He is referring to that red pill bullshit. Hypergamy is simply a tendency to marry up. The red pill bullshit states women have a hypergamous nature that permeates all aspects of their life.
Basically its a conspiracy theory that creates a situation that can't be proven, but at the same time you can't disprove it either
This same ideology claims there are alpha males and beta males. They base this off of primate studies (chimpanzees and gorillas). Of course we know that human personality and physical traits are simply far to complicated to classify under only two categories. Besides, I don't know of too many men with muscular bodies and 6'4 that are at the top of anything. Very few of these men have the intelligence, moral integrity, and leadership skills to be top dog in anything.
None of my sisters married up, surely at least one of them would have...
@Subarugirl On a side note, I apologize for that comment about your breasts. That was immature and beneath me. Won't happen again...
@Heolurt which law specifically, since you are under the impression that there are so many it shouldn't be difficult to provide a few laws that supports your claim.
@Filthy_Immigrant threating to rape someone isn't sexual interest its a threat of violence.
@Subarugirl. Yeah, but you can't stand your husband and see your kid as a drag chute. You are at your peak sexual value and feel like you are missing out on hard partying.
@KrakenAttackin actually I adore my husband and child… and have no desire to party. So your are blatantly wrong there buddy, as for peak sexual value…. My value is not determined by what you or anyone else is attracted to. So I couldn’t care less about your or anyone else’s opinion on what my sexual value is. I am a person, not a product to be consumed thank you very much. Though I find it comedically ironic that you’re talking about sexual value 😂. But hey what ever makes your feel better about your declining testosterone levels grandpa
@Subarugirl obviously, but the point is that he is not a mgtow because we are not advocate of female violence or violence in general. so please dont pigeon hole us with such imbeciles
You're mistaking Haters with real MGTOW guys, but it's normal and expected that you think that, you're quick to judge and not empathetic enough to understand. As for this empathy strangely women say that they're so empathetic but in reality they're not. Weird.
@Miladin every MGTOW I have met is like that. I’ve yet to find one who isn’t… doesn’t change the fact that the entire movement is rooted in hat and misogyny what ever you’d like to believe. If it really about sovereignty and the right to say no, no one would really have an issue with it, but it’s not.
@Subarugirl The exact same thing could be said of FEMINISM.
@KrakenAttackin Except feminism isn't rooted hate and misandry, it's rooted in women having the same constitutional and human rights that men were given. So you could say that one could say the exact same thing about feminism but it wouldn't be true.
@Filthy_Immigrant Well said. These Disney seeking women will eventually destroy their own families by filing for divorce. @Subarugirl has openly talked about getting on her husband and never has a good word to say about him. She baby trapped him at 19, is now 25 and realizing she is at peak SMV and wants to ride the CC, but a pesky husband gets in the way.
@Subarugirl. "Feminism isn't rooted in hate"... are you FUCKING kidding me? Feminism is based on Marxist teachings which is all about division and hatred of "oppression" and "oppressors". Your statement shows a total lack of understanding of feminism.
@KrakenAttackin show one time I spoke poorly of him... I'll wait.
@KrakenAttackin and you do realized that he asked me to marry him before we found out I was pregnant right? Just because your marriage failed doesn't mean you get to shit on mine hon.
@KrakenAttackin that is incorrect the woman's suffrage movement originates all the way back to ancient Greece. That predates Marxism by a few thousand years... you were saying what about lack of understanding?
In The Book of the City of Ladies, 15th-century writer Christine de Pizan protested misogyny and the role of women in the Middle Ages. Years later, during the Enlightenment, writers and philosophers like Margaret Cavendish, the Duchess of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, and Mary Wollstonecraft, author of A Vindication of the Rights of Woman, argued vigorously for greater equality for women.
Marxism wasn't established until the mid 19th century.
So he started fucking you, because you're a hoe. Without protection and then got anxiety, because his dick is small. And asked to marry you.
@Subarugirl. You said things run better when he's gone. You certainly have nothing good to say about him. You have posted pictures sexy pictures that are disrespectful as fuck to your marriage. And I bet you treat him like shit.
@Subarugirl. As for the women's suffrage movement, you don't realize more men than women supported giving women the vote. Men made suffrage possible over the desire of most women!
@Subarugirl. Being a feminist I guarantee you will divorce your husband. You will look at him withore and more contempt. You will have the same feelings toward your Son as he grows up and will punish him for the crime of being male, but since you will have destroyed your family by divorcing your husband, you will take your anger out on your son.
@KrakenAttackin so you’re a fortune teller now? My grandmother was a feminist and she stayed married to my grandfather till the day he died. You’re projecting your owns shortcoming onto others, and you’re entitled to feel that way but it doesn’t make it true. Also I have never called myself a feminist, that’s a label you have assigned to me, not one I have accepted.
@Subarugirl I don't need to be a fortune teller to predict the almost certain outcome of your marriage and attitude toward your Son. You will eventually detest your husband and son.
@KrakenAttackin well so far your track record of making correct assumptions so far has been pretty bead but I’ll be happy to prove you wrong. Maybe you’ll even learn a thing about what a successful relationship looks like.
@Subarugirl. Believe it or not I hope I AM WRONG. I hope you are a great wife and mother, but With your feminist/victim mentality I don't know how that would be possible. Please do prove me wrong, for your Son's sake.
@KrakenAttackin well that hope has come true because your are wrong, I’m not a feminist, I’m an advocate for gender equity and just because I have been victimized doesn’t mean I have a victims mentality.
@Subarugirl well you've met a few, there are thousands, don't generalize.
@Subarugirl. The LAST thing feminist want is "gender equality". Equality would mean equal number of female brick layers, suicides, work injuries, a two-thirds reduction in women's health research, a decrease in women's life expectancy, a sharp increase in female disability, prosecution, prison time; and a sharp reduction in the inherent privilege of being female. I repeat, the last thing you want is equality.
thanks @KrakenAttackin and why am I not surprised?
this is a common behavior with young bimbos that throw away their youth by rushing into relationships and getting pregnant all in their teen days. they see other younger bimbos around them having fun riding the CC and suddenly they want to join the fun but will go through turbulance because they know they're about to hit the wall soon.
but I already know their outcome. they're gonna fail miserably and even worst their kids are gonna hate them as they get older for them choosing the night/party life over them and feel traumatized for leaving them with different baby sitters every night
@Filthy_Immigrant You realize that I am married to a doctor right? That I single handedly financially supported our family, payed for our rent, and insurance until he graduated with his doctorate 2019. That the last real party that I went to was a Halloween party back when I was 18 years old, unless you want to count family Christmas parties and birthday parties... . That the last time I got a baby sitter was about 4 months ago so that I could take my husband out on a date to his favorite restaurant. That I have only ever had a non family member babysit my child once in the entire time he has been alive. That on top of working 45 hours a week so that I can send my son to a private school, I still cook dinners and pack lunches for my family nearly every single day...
So take seat and shut the fuck up son, you have no idea what you are talking about.
I bet you still rent, and cry about how no decent women want anything to do with you while you fuck losers because that's all you can get... if anyone let's you fuck them at all. If I were you, I would take a seat and take notes son...
@Subarugirl I'm already sitting down with my notepad ready to take notes while I laugh my ass off reading your comments. trust me, let's see if you will have this same attitude 5 more years from now when your biological clock starts ringing louder than the Big Ben.
trust me I got female relatives that were once like you and now they hate me because I once gave them the same prediction I'm giving you at the moment and they came true. so yeah I'm not just gonna take notes I'm also gonna get some popcorn as well cause I'm gonna enjoy this
@Subarugirl also I'm proud fucking the losers that I fuck at the moment cause at least they get to the point and leave once I'm through fucking them.
I never have to worry about them ever getting pregnant by the previous dude and trying to make me raise the fucking kid like if its mines
@Subarugirl. You are married to a Chiropractor, which is a guy with an associate's degree.
@Subarugirl. And you are wrong about feminism and feminist, the suffrage movement and feminism we're linked AFTER the Marxist pushed it into their ideology.
@KrakenAttackin actually it’s a doctorate. doctorate of Chiropractic.
@Subarugirl Which is basically an associates degree.
@Filthy_Immigrant lol of course you are honey 😂 you’re 35, fucking sluts and proud of it… do you want applause or a participation trophy? I see how you just brushed over the part where you were blatantly wrong, but hey what ever makes you feel better about the company you keep and your pathetic little life. Haha thanks I needed a laugh your are funny, at least you have that going for you even though the humor is at your own expense.
@KrakenAttackin an associates is a two year degree… a doctorate of chiropractic is an 8 year degree. Do they have not google where you live or do you just enjoy making factually inaccurate bullshit assumptions?
lmao a teen single mom who found her now husband during her pregnancy is claiming I'm living a "miserable" life.
@Filthy_Immigrant I got married before I had a kid genius. What? You’re mommy and daddy aren’t together anymore so so you’re still acting out about it? Aren’t you a little old to still be acting out about that?
@Filthy_Immigrant also funny you chose to describe your live as miserable… since I never said that
https://imgur.com/Afmobqr
oh that's right you said "pathetic." which last time I checked pathetic and miserable are not so different from each other and often complement one another. but yeah thanks for your concern about my parents, those two divorce and went to war months before I born but nevertheless I seem to live a far more peaceful and smarter life than yours.
never had the need to start a family and find someone to desperately get clingy with all in my teen days just to compensate for the love that my parents never gave me, unlike someone
@Filthy_Immigrant your concerns is so sweet. My parents are still married and madly in love unlike the broken home you grew up in. Take notes honey, then maybe you’ll finally get shown a good example of what it’s like to be a real successful grown up
@Subarugirl. Chiropractors, 8 years, bullshit. A real doctor does four years undergraduate, four years medical school, than a residency, than a specialty! Which is a world away from cracker jack Chiropractor degrees.
@Subarugirl doesn't sound like your parent's so called "success" helped you out in any way. and now I'm not gonna waste my time taking notes on what Walt Disney and his demonic franchise wants me to take notes on. there are far better things in life
@Subarugirl here is proof that your parent's so called good marriage did not help you out a bit. as bonus you even testified it yourself
https://imgur.com/pXsBxAa
@Filthy_Immigrant well let me set the record straight, I’m happily married, happily a mother, business, and home owner. Love my job and my family despite the shortcoming of my upbringing. While your over here throwing your money away on rent and fucking losers… good job your, your 35 years old, wasted your youth and have shit to show for it, grow the fuck up.
@Subarugirl how did I waste my youth? I enjoyed my youth a lot more than you miss I had a kid a rushed into marriage in my teen days
@Filthy_Immigrant Well your 35, mid life crisis much? Don’t own your home, paying a landlord… living a little hedonistic life all alone because no one with half a brain would ever make a commitment to you.
@Subarugirl really? is that what life is all about to you? I guess your life is just a grocery list and your needs and so called happiness revolves around being married and clinged to someone. you can't fufill happiness on your own and just confirmed that you do strive for a Disney life afterall, I'm not sure why that sounds so pathetic to me
also I like to point out that I choose to live the life I live now at 35 over living this type of life at 25 any day!
" mgtow is just a bunch of bitter boys who thing they are accomplishing something by removing themselves from the market."
Well since that's there goal, they have accomplish something. They choose to focus on themselves and focus on their own goals outside of a relationships, I think this is fine, I don't understand why woman like you are so bitter about this.
@ColdExtraction because that isn’t really what it is… if it were just that they would just call it what it is, celibacy. They aren’t advocating for celibacy and independence, it’s rooted in hate and misogyny, and I’m sure there are some who get involved that want that, but it mainly attracts men who are angry, hate women yet still want to get laid just not be in a relationship.
@Subarugirl. I am not a MGTOW but I understand their thought process, and I don't think you do. Unlike feminist, MGTOW aren't marching in the streets or petitioning government for "change". These guys are literally just "going their own way".
So much of what men do is to build status and wealth to attract a high-value woman, let's be truthful. Many MGTOW have worked hard only to be divorced, cheated on, betrayed, arrested, or otherwise abused by modern women and the gynocracy that enables them. Even many men who are in "stable" marriages aren't very happy as they are slaves to their demanding jobs (have to provider), than they come home to a demanding wife. Men are burning the candle at both ends and still it isn't enough (as demonstrated by the divorce rates filed by women). When you have nothing left to give and it still isn't enough, what does that tell you? Many men feel they can't win with modern women, no matter the effort. These men are walking away and simply doing what makes them "happy". For most men a few hours a week working on a hobby might be enough, but modern women don't see a man's happiness as important. You have to admit that modern women (married or not) don't give a second thought to whether their man is happy or not.
@KrakenAttackin If they were just going their own way , they wouldn't still be so obsessed with women, they would just be single... They may not be marching in the streets but the amount of them who decide to slaughter their families or shooting up concerts or buildings is a tad bit bigger of an issue than a protest.
Though this issue seems to be a bit of a double standard for you, you are usually the first to talk about accountability for the part you play in what happens to you... Or does that just apply to women and not men?
@Subarugirl Isn't that what feminists are after? Sex without being in a relationship.
@U4ea0 If you are looking at extremist outliers. Feminism is founded on gender equality, its about equal access to rights and opportunity regardless of gender or gender presentation. Its about being seen and treated as an equal, not less than, or property. Men aren't being oppressed by women
@Subarugirl You also have different "schools" of feminism. I have zero issue with equal rights and opportunities under the law. Radical feminism, as taught in many gender studies classes is something else entirely. The first modern feminist was probably de Sade (we get the words sadist, sadistic, and sadism from this guy). Read some of his works if you can stomach them. But, it's all there. That is the crap I have a problem with.
Despite my harsh rhetoric, I don't really find anything truly disagreeable with you or feminists like you. I would say that you and I probably have more in common than otherwise (not that it matters as one single thing is enough to cause people to kill each other). I get treated far worse by the red-pill guys because I see that bullshit for what it is. Basically, the red-pill stuff is probably a less-than-half-truth, just like the bitching about a patriarchy.
Choosing not to get in a relationship has nothing to do with celibacy, of course they aren't advocating celibacy, why would they? this man are simply choosing not to commit to anyone, that's rooted in pain, not hate, mainly do to their bad past relationships, if they no longer want to commit to any women because of it, that's fine.
And so what want if they want to get laid just not be in a relationship? we live in the age zero commitment causal sex.
"They may not be marching in the streets but the amount of them who decide to slaughter their families or shooting up concerts or buildings is a tad bit bigger of an issue than a protest."
What the F are you talking about, have I miss the news, what Mgtow guys have done this?
@KrakenAttackin sexy pictures? Are you fucking kidding me, what sexy pictures? Are you talking about dresses that show no cleavage and are longer than my finger tips? You think that is tooo sexy and disrespectful? You want me to wear a burka or something… a hijab? Would that make you feel better?
@Subarugirl I have 15 minutes and then I will be in the goddamned OR, administering anesthesia, for the next TWENTY-TWO HOURS IF THERE ARE NO COMPLICATIONS. Only bathroom breaks. Patient's original anesthesiologist at the last moment decided she couldn't "feel the magic" and wouldn't be able to come in today. I'll consider her sex to be coincidental.
Sorry for my rant. My question for you is, how do you or any other feminist reconcile your ideology with Islam?
There is no manipulating the alleged writings of Mohammed. Islam makes it perfectly clear, in no uncertain terms, the inferior status of women. Islam has not changed since it's creation. Women have virtually no rights under Sharia law. And no true Muslim (or anybody above mediocre intelligence), could ever support democracy (but in the case of Muslims not due to the many inherent practical limitations of democracy but because they view it as idol worship).
Why would any feminist support such an alliance?
I'm wondering in which world you're living but in on Earth of the 21st century the male population has never been more lonely, thirsty and desperate for pussy. We live in a gynocentric society in which the vagina is god and the vast majority of men are worshipping in hoping to get a chance to ejaculate inside that hole. MGTOW will always be a tiny percentage of the male population. So tiny that it's statistically irrelevant.
the world has changed in my life time, as a kid the mums all stayed at home if they had a job it was for pin money, now to get on and move up in life moms have to work as well to buy the house and have money to live on. but more men have a dead end job on zero hours. it tuff out there
As an 18 yr old from Russia, I'd say you have a LOT to learn about the world. Your impressions of MGTOW seem to be nothing more than social media talking points, blurted out by a minority blip on a standard graph. Overall "stupidity" is a bigger threat than MGTOW will ever be.
MGTOW is too small of a thing to make an impact socially IRL in my opinion.
If you want to GYOW then do so, but don't do it because you expect it to impact society, do it because that's what you've determined you want for your own life.
I'm not a MGTOW guy but I considered living that life for a while when I was in my early-mid 20s after a couple of bad relationships. Ultimately it isn't what I chose.
They aren’t a threat. They are just an annoying nuisance that blames everyone else for their ineptitude except themselves
You know nothing of the movement. These guys are not in the victim mindset, they are taking responsibility and the power that comes with it into their own hands
I don’t care.
And it’s because of this lack of empathy for male problems, a female lack of empathy for men that men are creating their own spaces to help eachother. Men are always caring about women but it looks like y'all don’t care about us.
@Shamalien Most MGTOWs do have a victim mentality. Their entire worldview is reactionary.
>blames everyone for their ineptitude except themselves
Just like feminists
I love women of all types
@Shamalien She basically has proven that many women are not empathetic towards men's problems even though they claim so openly that they're so empathetic in general. And they see this from their own perspective which is usually filled with victimhood, the thing that the liberals are filling their head with. No darling, MGTOW is not about victimhood and if you were at least curious what MGTOW is for then you wouldn't be so ignorant. I'm sick of ignorant people showing how ignorant they are.
I don't think you know what your talking about, how is going their own way, equals "blames everyone else for their ineptitude except themselves", I think your just projecting here, man don't owe women their commitment.
The only "threat" it offers up is removal men, who are tired of the Feminist Woke bull crap, out of the gene pool. When you like your Yellow Labrador and Dodge Ram pickup better than what women offer, it's time to go.
... or your Rottweiler and your Chevys, lol !
Mgtow is doing the same thing they criticize modern feminist of doing. Both have a victim mentality and in my experience both groups members have insecurities they refuse to acknowledge and instead find it easier to blame the opposite sex.
I always found mgtow kinda weird, because if I'm not mistaken it's about men bettering themselves right?
If so, then why in the world does it take a movement to do that.
Like I don't know, I just don't get it.
The mgtow stuff I'm aware of is about educating dudes more so than driving direct change by forming political funding groups or electing somebody.
@hahahmm 🤔 like how the world was run before women were allowed to vote?
@wittymilf In some ways, sure. I'm fine with how things were before the 1990s mostly. Society appears to be in rapid decline that is accelerating. What feminists don't get is that if it collapses 100% of your rights will evaporate the same day and you will be living like women did 3k years ago. Good luck with that.
@wittymilf Doesn't mean I think "women" caused the decline. More like all of the men who simp for women and give women everything they fantasize about are the problem. You see, women don't have to be responsible for their actions like men are. That's clear when you look at conviction rates where if a man & woman do the same crime the guy is much more likely to be punished & he gets a harsher sentence. Just for example. When someone who has little responsibility gets to decide how society runs we get problems. This is true regardless of their gender tho.
@hahahmm you obviously don’t know any strong women who have had to fight to survive. I give my man every thing he wants and more, because I love him… and I love him because I’m strong. Not because I’m weak.
@wittymilf Women don't need to be "strong"... and the only "strong" women I've seen are always in relationships with weak men. Next.
@wittymilf And what I mean is.. she only needs to be strong if she can't get/keep a real man,
Just wow. Good luck with life 😂😂 don’t accidentally be nice to a girl 😂😂
@wittymilf You must be under the mistaken impression that I'm on GAG to make you feel good about yourself. Good luck tho.
@hahahmm I give no fucks :) I’m just here for a laugh
By world do you mean USA? You realize in many ACTUAL parts of the world men operate this way normally? You go preaching feminism in any Eastern European or middle east country even Asian watch what happens.
What you say is true 😂!.
I do whatever the F I want and have no need of advice from a group of guys who couldn't get laid if they were driving down Hollywood Boulevard waving a stack $100's
MGTOW are like a very unfunny comedian who tries really hard to offend certain people with his joke but the only reaction he gets is awkward silence. If that's your type of humor then the joke's on you.
I’m so glad men are going there own way finally! 😂😂 now we can all just get on with life.
Amen to that. And if you have a problem with your piping or heating systems, or with your internet or your stove or fridge or your door don't forget to call the female repair girls... if there are any. ;)
@Miladin And this is why women are laughing. You're equating appliance repair skills with relationship skills or being a "quality guy". The fact that you can fix her refrigerator doesn't mean anything more than that. MGTOW is about men who believe the entire spectrum of females in the world want nothing else but to use all men for their money or status to advance their own agenda, and offer nothing in return. That's just not true, but for those who believe it, let them stay single. No one really cares, except them. Like SGirl said, good riddance.
I think it would be funny if the MGTOW's and the Misandrist's got together and had one big hate fuck orgy. LOL
@loveslongnails I know what MGTOW is about, it's just that she sounded disrespectful towards men in general, that's why I posted this.
I am married, but dating is exciting. To get to know someone and there being a chance she could want a meaningful relationship. Not talking about sex... being with a woman that likes you is priceless.
When you get older sex is not as high on the list. You will find out that being with someone who loves you back is worth more than Fort Knox. Loneliness hurts like you cannot believe possible.
MGTOW is feminism for me. I don't know whose worse
I just came here to give you props on writing a title that triggered me until I read the rest of your take
yeah it is just like feminism and blm. all these ideologic extremist movement are dangerous to the world.
3rd lady from the right got old man hips, I'd be angry too