The fall of men 21. century edition

[Anonymous]

Do not be confused by this deliberate thumbnail picture. This is not a men VS women/feminism article nor a shaming topic.

No, this is not about how modern men and modern women and feminism this and that. These complaints have been going too rampant (and for the record, i myself don't believe them). Entire volumes of books can be written about this topic - including the countless of issues modern men and modern women are dealing with in their daily lives - and little would change. And besides I wouldn't read one page if there is. This is not about that, so i'll leave it at that.

I like to think since this hypothetical "Patriarchy" hive-mind artifact of ours, that we so much worshiped got obliterated it may have deprived us with the essentials of being respectable human beings and not mindless savages acting like dominance above everybody else is the only way. Pride, respect, acceptance, valuing yourself and others, having boundaries and fighting back - all diminished. Of course I don't believe that myself. There are still adequate human beings out there.

But how far can we go on until we reach a limit if there is one to degenerate further and further? At what point do you wake up and come to the idea, that maybe - just maybe - it's you, that must reevaluate where you stand and undergo a seemingly alternative approach in life if not a much simpler one? Sure, it doesn't change the global problems happening in the world and society and that's not the point. How can you be so sure, that you are not part of the fallen ones?

As a concrete example think of a popular phrase "Blowjobs are like flowers for men". There is no doubt a huge number of men would agree on it. But what if a man likes flowers too? Or what if whatever.

Or women have the idea, that all men love beer. Then again, there are men, who can't get beer in their mouth because of it's taste, that they can't tolerate. I have personally been on the receiving end of having been gifted beer and seafood but I do not put beer or seafood in my mouth. I felt like I was being put in an abstract category of "all men" much the same way men would put women in an abstract category "all women love high heels".

Where am I going with this?

Current "indefinite trends" are going on. Men changing their gender and becoming trans-girls. They have their reasons and it's their life and their choices and I am not judging them for it. In the end they are happier and I don't have any problems with trans-girls, sissy femboys and whatever. Are they the fallen men or did they make the right choice as they perceive women have it better or easier in life?

At what point do these things become an issue or invasive? Let's dive deeper and see.

C_uckolding is increasing exponentially in popularity. It shows up, it's talked about, it's happening and when I go on p_orn websites it's feeling like I am getting it thrown in my face. This is an example of when an issue becomes invasive. I don't want to see it, hear it, whatever. But since others are total fans of it (primarily men if not exclusively men), it gains in size and popularity. Back to my 3 points earlier about that:

1. how far can we go on until we reach a limit? The consequence here I am most concerned about is that due to it's exponential gain in popularity women may start expecting, that men are into being c_uckolded the same way women today believe we are into blowjobs and beer and we'd reach a new chapter of the fall. And if that happens to me... I'd lose my temper and bad things will happen.

2. At what point do you wake up and come to the idea, that maybe - just maybe - it's you, that must reevaluate where you stand? Very ironic to my previous point. There is no escaping from unseeing and avoiding encountering c_uckold p_orn. In this case I say you can't have a rainbow without a rain first.

3. How can you be so sure, that you are not part of the fallen ones? In other words, how can you be so sure the c_uckolds are the normal and sane ones and the others are the sickos? As far as I am concerned the appalling gut feeling alone is guidance enough.

Why did I bring up this example? I was born in the 1990s before smartphones and social media were a thing. I was perfectly happy with a simplistic life routine without social media and notifications. Just Emails and instant messaging clients (some with VoIP). And some years later I still don't use social media (this is a forum, not a social media) and the issues I have encountered already are that girls are expecting me to have at least some social media (mostly instagram) or else I'm a phantom. So much for the argument "not being on social media makes me more attractive" but soon to be "not being into c_ucking makes me more attractive". But this issue is not a gender specific fall. I consider this real example a chapter of the fall of society. This c_uck example may very well be the next stage. I dread what comes next.

The fall of men/women/non-binary is affecting those, who are no part of the way society develops or falls. The message here is in the end you can't really change it unless you are a very powerful figure (e.g. certain religious leaders, politicians and others) but still it's not your job. But you will inevitably sustain what's coming from it.

[Potteplante]

Patriarchy isn't about gender stereotypes but some gender stereotypes stem from patriarchy.

Stereotypes - no matter what they stem from are damaging because they're oversimplified, humans are complex.

Take for instance the "flower are blow jobs for men". I've been with men who'd be thrilled to receive BOTH, meanwhile if you give me a bouquet of flowers - they'd completely miss the point.

Pride, respect, acceptance, valuing yourself and others, having boundaries and fighting back - all diminished. Of course I don't believe that myself.

& you at the same time:

Are they the fallen men or did they make the right choice as they perceive women have it better or easier in life?

Where is your respect, acceptance and valuing others here? How are trans women "fallen men" just because you perceive them as such and way to go to stereotype womens life - you know, half of your rant is about how that is wrong. How about you practice what you preach.

Kinks aren't an increasing trend - the intended happened - we're exposed to the world now. Don't like it - don't visit porn sites. I don't notice those videos because honestly - I ain't looking for them. I don't think they're or those who're into that are any more sickos or normal than me either.

I don't participate in social media either - no one questions my reality.

People being trans - non binary or whatever does not change me or is a threat to my "womanhood".

[myTake Owner]

You obviously missed the point of my statement with this one. Who gets to decide that?
"Are they the fallen men or did they make the right choice as they perceive women have it better or easier in life?"

[Lusciousphilippa28]

Are trans women happier? Those I've met have undergone or undergoing quite an ordeal of emotional distresses and traumas. Despite what the media shows, the glitz and glamour is an exaggeration. One of the saddest stories I've heard is from an individual in their 60s, who suffered for many years and shared regret after their transition. This is reality.

[Curmudgeon]

I think a sick and subversive agenda is being pushed, and you must not accept the convoluted language of those pushing it. Those pushing this horrid agenda infiltrated over the last few decades, and have ensconced themselves in academia, the media, entertainment, certain industries affiliated with the aforementioned, and at least one of the two main political parties in the United States. You must refuse their Big Lies.

1. The notion that anything resembling "Patriarchy" still exists in the late 20th century and 21st century Western World is a monstrous lie put forth by the femi (commu) nists, who are a key element of the subversive agenda I mentioned above.

2. The bizarre hyping of cuckoldry in pornography is again an example of the monstrous agenda being pushed. Any kind of normal "Boy meets Girl" sexuality must be destroyed in this agenda, because relationships like the family that stand outside the absolute corporatist and statist power that they want and crave is a threat to them and their sinister agenda.

3. See also the push toward gender bending. "All that is solid must melt into air" is the motto of these Marxist leftovers. It is no accident they started really pushing this as the ashes of the Soviet Empire cooled:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Y9i8SUuwL9I

[monorprise]

Men were not educated after the 90's when they changed the educational practices and techniques to better appeal to how girls learn.

Boys stopped learning so well. If you want men to return and be economically competitive they really need to go back to the old system or better yet go to boys only schools and embrasure a competitive system.

Feminist won't allow that becase they know the boys will blow the girls out of the water academically and the countries that do this will rule the world. That is why they forced the boys schools to include women and banned the competitive techniques that drove boys to excel.

[DaveJord]

I love how you say things in way to promote a point, then on the back end say you do not think that or believe, but that is exactly what you are saying. And if you are not saying that then why give it breath? Are back peddling or just being subversive?

"Blowjobs are like flowers for men", never heard of this saying... and no I do not think most men would a agree... Blow jobs are much better than flowers, flowers for men would be flowers, but blow jobs are BLOW JOBS... sound pretty stupid of a saying to me. Like pennies (flowers) on the dollar (Blow Jobs.) I would take the dollars over pennies.

This post sounds like you are putting men in an abstract category but disguising it as if you are not.

I do not think cuckholding is a thing any reasonable women would just assume a man is into, unless he is into it... like for example I love beer, sex, blow jobs and sports, so wait a minute what's wrong with liking beer, sex, blow jobs, and sports? I get the point you are trying to make... but what a minute what's is the fucking point you are trying to make here?

So yeah, if the point of this post is that maybe the greater issue is with you, then yes, I agree with you. We all do these things to ourselves, and people promote these fringe concepts and they become mainstream, but honestly how seriously to normal average people honestly take them? I would say not very far, beyond the laughability of it all. If you cannot learn to laugh about this shit, then yes you are part of the problem if it's affecting your peace of mind or level of happiness.

I was born in 1976, so I laugh about all this shit... and especially the ones that are drowning in it... so don't let yourself fall into that group of people. You can change it honestly, don't subscribe to any of it, but you see you are on some level subscribing. Thats where you are failing, because eventually all this will fall, and none of these mother fuckers that promoting their alternative lifestyles, and submissively undermining the moral fabric of society will not be the mother fuckers to pick up a weapon and man the gates the day the Barbarian Horde shows up.

And that my friend is way Rome really fell, there just were not an enough Romans left, because every virtue, privilege and benefit of what it meant to be a Roman had been subjugated, marginalized and negated. So, when he Barbarin Hordes came, there we no real Romans left, willing to fight and die for what was pretty much already lost.

So that is what you are really talking about here, if you know it or not. Because the men that like beer, blow jobs, sex and sports... well they were the ones that would have picked up a weapon and fought to defend their right to beer, blow jobs, sex and sports. But society had advanced beyond that, and they lost their faith in the system because it left them behind.

[Dargil]

Like cultural aberrations that precipitated the fall of Rome, woke culture is transitional. The dirty secret is that feminists and female SJW rely on the actions and money of men to support them. But just like Rome, the scam will ultimately collapse culturally and economically when men run out of money and caring. Then we descend into a dark age and then ascend into a and middle age where culture and religion are massively renewed. At that time, women will be restored to their traditional subordinate relationship with men. A look at Western Expansion in the USA should give some hints on what is coming. Men are presently precipitating our own fall, but we will get tired of it and the feminist sjw scam will crash and burn because they don't have men to finance and carry them.

Just so that you know, I am in no way a misogynist. I love the babes. But brace yourselves. history is rushing in like a freight train. The Titanic is about to sink. I give it 10-15 years.

[Guy13]

LMAO 🤣. 😜 .