How do you feel about the man is suppose to be the provider while the woman supports him and the children? Not that she does nothing but that it isn't a msculine woman trying to take on a masculine man.
How do you feel about gender roles in terms of the household?
Well, clearly we got here because we allowed women to learn to read. I mean it sounded good in theory, but... Sigh.
Pew Research in the US has polled men's and women's happiness since the 1970s whilst men are basically as happy as at any point in the last 40 years, every decade women have become less happy, decade on decade.
20 years ago women got together and decided they wanted fewer gender roles, for men to be more sensitive, caring, more involved in housework and child raising. So men did this, and you know what happened? Divorce rates went up, marriage rates went down and women's happiness tanked harder. Metrosexual salad eaters aren't what women want for partners.
Men and women are better at different things, experience and reason created gender roles and the great feminist fight to reverse this natural state has simply left more women more unhappy working long hours with no partner and few prospects. The evidence is there, all over the data. If for a moment you think women don't want stereotypes, ask how many would prefer to marry a metrosexual over a Prince.
That list is aweful. It just paints femininity as a crybaby and masculinity as some evil motherfuckers. Rather look at these here as thye focus on the positives of both:
I don't like how it shows positive qualities to be restricted to only one sex. People should aspire for positive qualities regardless of sex. Males can be intuitive and empathetic too, and women have reason too. And women generalize a lot too, which is the source of many problems. :p
That's what yin-yang symbolises. The black has a white dot in it and the white a black dot in it symbolising that both sides carry parts of the other and complement each other into a full circle.
That's the theory behind it. In pracite there are obviously also masculine women and feminine men, but that's rare - even though becoming more prevalent in our current society as gender roles are deemed something bad,
Personally I think it's about embracing our strengthes - which are usually masucline strenghts for men and feminine strengths for women - while learning from the other side and strengthen our weaknesses.
i wouldn't be able to be with someone unemotional like that...
i fit a lot of the 'feminine' qualities, but my boyfriend only fits a few of the "masculine" qualities, and even though he's a dude he's a lot more sensitive to other people's feelings and he's a lot kinder !! i seriously hate guys that are actually quite sensitive but pretend to be totally unemotional 'cause they think it makes them more "masculine" or something... it's pathetic, its fine if you're naturally unemotional but if you're just faking it it's so silly, most people after serious relationships want others who can express their emotions clearly, me personally i LOVE emotional and sensitive men its so cute, my boyfriend is really strong physically he's so sensitive and selfless i love it and it makes me happy !!
gender roles are so outdated... and i actually want to work outside the house so they could never work for me^__^ people should do whatever they want!
lol if the guy in that list is so independent worldly and indifferent to secrurity, he wouldn't be attached to anyone in the fist place.. and if he's 'dominant' then none of her qualities would come through and thread both be fucked.
my thoughts-- its b. s. and roles are not in any way the same as the character of a person. a role ids an act. it does not deal with who we are as people, any more than id be jack the ripper just bc i play the part in a performance on stage. roles are devised precisely bc people are NMOT naturally that way. if thats how we were we wouldn't require behavioral reminders or enforcement.
personally, I would never be in a relationship with a guy like that, nor be such a woman.
im not very expressive emotionally so if the guy was shit up wed never communicate. and there's n such thing as person without emotion itd just mean hell be l;likely to fly into rages arbitrarily.
i do not see strength as being opposite to being gentle i think they are important to each other.
nurturing qualities are important and available and accessible to all human beings. it does not fall on any particular sex.
im not indecisive and i would not appreciate being with someone who unilaterally made a decisions.
im not at all submissive and i find people who try to act dominant are usually cowardly. in any case aggression is highly unattractive.
i am not passive and have very strong views. im not malleable.
emotion and reason are necessary components to make logical decisions. human beings are not computers and we do not comp[ute things independent of all of our senses.
no person is unworldly unless kept from the world., unworldliness is not a natural proclivity but a condition.
i dont like it when people dont communicate,. so i wouldn't get on with someone who did not talk. though i really dislike it when guys have to talk all the time bcd like silence as well.
i dont cry and im uncomfortable seeing others cut but i dont like that about myself. i dont want a guy that has the same prejudice.
i dont find verbal and analytical to be mutually exclusive. im definitely highly both. though i think before i speak. but i talk A LOT.
people are not split in half like this. a lot of these qualities are made up to make women (and slaves) controllable and men good soldiers,. the rest are found in any sex. this list is archaic and would not function today not that it ever functioned well.
For me and my partner, it really wouldn't work. I mean, I fit quite a bit of the female stereotypes and he fits a few of the male ones, but out of the two of us, he's the one that enjoys and is good at cleaning and cooking and would probably be a better parent and would enjoy staying and taking care of the home and the children. It would send me insane if I had to do that. I'd much rather go out and work and do something away from home, I know that I'd go crazy with my role being so restricted to the home but he would thrive in it.
In the future if thats what I want, then I wouldn't mind-- I do think looking after children is a 24/7 job and is hard however I feel like after their infant stage I would want to work. However I don't want my husband/boyfriend to have already decided that I would do this, it has to be talked about and shouldn't be expected
Oh look at how "masculine" apart from being "independent" and "active", it's actually a bunch of negative qualities like "cruel" and "less sensitive to other's feelings"! And people wonder why I think thriving to be seen as "masculine" is actually detrimental for you.
Anyways, I think if you want to put "roles" on people based on their "sex", then you're off the track. People should do whatever is most reasonable for them to do, for which you need to specify tasks and also evaluate who is better at what. And no, having a vagina doesn't suddenly make you a better cook.
I believe in traditional gender roles. Of course those qualities listed don't apply to all men and women, but in general they're mostly true. Apart from a few on the list they describe me and my girlfriend pretty much. I think young children are better off at home with their own Mothers than in daycare, and while stay at home Dads can take good care of kids too it makes more sense to me to have the woman at home, especially since it's healthier for both the Mother and the child, and cheaper, to breastfeed a baby rather than formula. If men were meant to stay with the kids and women work we'd have tits too.
It's a foolish idea to stick to roles. The same tradition was in a lot of sports until people realized that having team mates that can switch roles will greatly increase the ability of the team.
If you aren't having babies then both of you better be working and earn enough for the savings of 2 people. Share the house work and take turns to assist the other. Husband cook, repair stuff and wife cleans, do laundry. If he fails at cooking then he better do the cleaning and repairs.
If you are having a baby, then the wife takes the time off with maternity leave (this is where US failed with women, no laws for it) and the husband takes half days off to assist his wife with the kid. Your finance will take a beating but that's why you have 2 people working.
I was going to ask a similar question last night, but forgot about it. I think I might write it up later. I think this is something I would be looking for at this moment in my life. Someone who is wanting to be more of the women and wanting me to be more of the man. Not this weird societal norm we have today where the woman works too and stuff.
I totally feel. I guess for me at this point in my life , it's nothing for me to worry about but I do often see so many conflicting ideas so I trying to gain wisdom at a young age. What I have concluded for myself is to find balance. Each can take charge in a certain area. For me, I would let a guy be a provider but at the same time, pursue my dreams and provide for those who don't have anyone to provide for them. I definitely want a husband to support, but I don't want to place 100% liability in the sense that if they drop me, I have nothing.
Yea, I can understand that fear about the guy leaving. But really, you find an old fashioned type of dude, he ain't really gonna be the one to get a divorce either. It's about picking the right one and knowing his true intent, not just the surface level BS talk. I've gotten heavy, for the first time in my life, into studying the bible and I find it interesting how God talks about certain "types" of women lol. They are abundant today haha. Pretty eye opening actually :)
I think that list is complete crap on both sides, and it never was that way. Those are not traditional gender traits, and gender roles have always changed to best suit survival. So in that regard, whatever allows you to thrive is what's best.
That list was made by someone with a VERY gendered view of the world (and one with an axe to grind).
According to this chart man and women stereotype. I would have to say the following. Well my brother is kinda of the cruel and not nuturing person. My mom is kinda of like the man and the women of the house. My step-dad is kinda of like women but has a manly job. Me: I am like a more man than women. haha I can be a totally girl when I am really happy. Sometimes I can be too girly and emotional in front of my brother. My dad can be a little of both.
i don't mind them so much, but i believe more in teamwork than this kind of 'binary'. this pink/blue dynamic. in reality, males and females aren't strictly like this anyway, so there's bound to be some kind of overlap.
Depending on what I'm doing career wise, I wouldn't mind that. I love food but I'm hella lazy on cooking. I shall take on the role as your new wife. Keep my tummy full and I'll keep the bank full.
Nope. We'll be getting a divorce if you don't do some stove top cooking within the first month, but no worries, I like Italian which isn't too hard depending on the dish. It's just the ingredients that matter.
I'm going to work 40-60 hours a week (probably on the higher end) once I get my doctorate's in physics. That's undebatable. My woman can work around that, taking care of the house or working herself.
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