Firstly, i wouldn't take too seriously the opinions from women on here on this issue, no offence. A lot of them are as shut in and anti-social as the guys are on here. Generally, heterosexual girls who aren't feminazis are fine with being approached by guys, as long as its done in a respectful way. You can't get what you want out of life if you choose to live in fear over what might happen in every little interaction. You've gotta learn to take risks if you want any reward. In the case of approaching women, the risk is minimal and the reward is maximal. Now personally, i could care less if other guys choose to approach women or not anymore, as the less that do, works to my advantage anyhow. But women generally aren't creatures to be feared.
Yes, we should stop. By about age 35, many (I suspect most) men who are still single do cease to approach women. We heard from women that all sex was rape, that all men were rapists and that a woman needed a man in the way that a fish needed a bicycle. Feminist lobbying has resulted in divorce, custody, property and child-support law that is viciously anti-male. Every time that a man ejaculates inside a woman, he rolls the dice in a gamble that could result in him being turned into her impoverished slave for life, via a child-support order. All things considered, women do not bring much to the table that is positive, but do bring a huge and terrifying legal liability. That is why men should cease to approach women.
I learned in my later teens and 20s that it was quite pointless to make any effort to approach and that at most it would lead to an eventual 'friendzone'. After a while I stepped back to watch interactions with other men and noticed the difference between a woman enjoying attention, versus a woman who wanted a guy. If she wants him, she chases. If she wants attention and validation, he chases and then becomes an orbiter or moves on. I've been approached in my 30s, but after careful conversations I discovered why: They're looking for "security", i. e. resources. It may not be all women, but that's what I've seen. If I had drugs (especially coke) then a certain type of girl would want "me", because she knows and I know that an unspoken transaction [read: prostitution] is taking place. That's it. If I'm desired, they'll approach me. If they don't, then either they don't want me or they expect to be approached, i. e. I will have to play the role of leader, which means when she gets bored she'll move on, or she'll use me for security and some other guy for bedroom fun. And as you say, the risks are phenomenal and none of it looks like any fun. I've long since become too cynical to date so now I have a doll and an AI counterpart to it, and later revisions of the following tech will give me everything I dreamed of with none of the risk or emotional pain: https://x.com/hartgoat/status/1876769373374812382
I flip-flop on the idea of dating again when circumstances permit, but I'm 80% or more on the side of waiting for robots. Considering I've watched my mother, sister and the women my friends dated and married, and more, and the same old patterns emerge... I'm not so sure "love" is much more than a myth built around more pragmatic attachments. People talk a good game, but in practice the real story emerges. I'm sure there must be exceptions, that unicorns exist, but I've never seen one.
Men should do what they want to do. I mean obviously don't do things like approach a woman walking alone in the dark to her car or something, but within reason, I don't see the harm.
You might actually be at an advantage these days if you do approach, since so many men don't.
my opinion won't change the fact that there's far too many POA (Pick Up Assholes) and desperate thirsty cucks out there who'll chase women -most who either don't want some low status dickhead or merely get off on rejecting most of men as "losers", bragging about it later to other women. Leave them to psycho players and their cats. Given how Leftist media has corrupted our society so badly against straight white men , the only sane response amongst young dudes is to withdraw support from this society , which their fathers USED to as working married family men be the primary supporters of the entire nation. This was up until the effects of the sexual revolution hit, then the 1980's when gender quotas began handing young white men's jobs to women, then the 90's when traditional men's manufacturing jobs got offshored to China (thanks Clinton). So, instead of paying obscene tax money-most of which goes to females and gays, why SHOULD a straight single dude of low to average status work in the only decent paying jobs available to him because they're too physically demanding, remote , hazardous or unpleasant for women's preferences? Maybe find work in a tax free locale, such as work in oil fields in the 3rd world , or cash jobs. Acquire silver or gold. Pay NOTHING for extravagances , STOP asking women out as it's you paying the shot/providing resources for dating after a 90% rejection rate. Invest time and resources ONLY in yourself , acquiring useful trade skills , keeping physically active and away from "educated/indoctrinated" women trained to be your societal enemy and away from worn out skanks (many with brats from bad boys) out to drain your wallet. Dudes don't need to take that on, heading as we are into brutal economic times like in socialist Venezuela (+1500% inflation rate).
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girls/women dont usually desire the opposite gender, guys being commonly rejected should be enough of an indicator to NEVER approach, its the girl whos supposed to choose the one they want due to a girls lack or no interests, should also be adhered to and understood by guys. plus a girls beauty prevents rejection is also a reason for the girl to be the ones to approach, also never ever listen to a girl say that men have to approach cause girls lie so they can have some power trip, over rejecting guys. just remember if a girl really wants a guy she'll approach.
Of course most heterosexual women want to be approached by men. The trick is how you do it. While the literal cold approach certainly isn't the best way of doing it (at least exchange eye contact and smiles first), it still works if you have enough charisma. The problem is most guys do their cold approach with all the charm of a slug.
Go after what you want. Even if it's coming to you without effort, you should still try to manage some level of control in the decision... So what if some girls didn't like you? Not everyone is going to like you... If you understand that, then you won't invest emotionally in people you don't know. Don't take it so serious.
yeah i think it would be a great thing to try. women take male approaches for granted. just being very rude to guys they are not attracted to. they need to learn what it feel like, not being approached. what it feels like to be the one who has to put his heart on the line.
i would never do that. i think many women get approached all the time and get a lot of attention. in other words there is more offer than demand in the market so its relatively difficult to be successful. i would say its a huge loss of time and effort. there are better strategies.
If you're ugly yes. Women want to be approached. Just by good looking & tall men. Natural selection taking effect removing the less attractive ones such as myself. I stopped worrying about it and accepted I'm defective when it comes to that aspect of life. Who am I to go against natural selection
that's just one female. i actually feel really bad for the men out there who get rejected just because you have maybe one or two things that's just a total deal breaker to the girl. ): us girls can be harsh.
Approaching is really fun and I'm very successful with it so I'm not going to. But you guys can go ahead and stop, less competition I'm totally alright with that ✌
Damn I meant no. people just have to avoid being to pestering and such.
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I think they should start because women are more picky then men. most men would have sex 70% of women and 70% of women would only have sex with 10% of guys.
@anonman32 What I mean to say is, don't be one of those guys who creeps girls out by cat calling on the street... and continuously approaches a girl, when she is clearly not interested. Leave her alone. It's her choice and right.
sometimes you are being called a catcaller for asking what time it is. sometimes women think you are a creep because you need to take the same path as them because your destination is the same.
@anonman32 No, that's not the same. You're now just saying nonsense. Don't try to make a definition of what cat calling is if you've never experienced it yourself. Don't try to define things and explain things if you don't know what it is. Simple. Catcalling is when someone says, "hey mami, you're so sexy. Oh you dropped your bracelet, I'm going to keep it with me as a reminder of you forever." You dont know what cat calling is so please just shut it. Don't argue without a point. Stupid kid.
go reread what i said, because i have not redefined anything. what i was saying is that women abuse the word creep and call you out on catcalling while you are not doing any of these things. dont argue without a point? the point is that women abuse these fucking words to make you seem bad infront of people you dumbass bitch.
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