Would you have ever thought this white ginger/redhead girl is actually half black (or quarter) and has a non-identical twin sister who's blacker?

[Anonymous]

and more African-looking than her?

Believe or not, neither of these girls are adopted and actually are biological twin sisters of mixed race parents (White father and Black or half-black Mother). Crazy, huh?

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[Idonthaveausername]

This is so awesome! Genetics can be crazy. This is completely feasible if they're non-identical twins (two different sperm fertilizing two different eggs) meaning they don't share the same DNA. Since the red hair and light eyes are recessive, you need that generation from each parent (the father is white with blue eyes and the mother half white) while the other girl only needed the dominant black genes from one parent (the mother.) So basically the redhead got all of the mother's white and black girl got all of the mother's black (although she carries the alleles from her father and can have children with light hair and light eyes)

I have red hair and pail skin and my oldest sister looks Mexican because she's so tan and has dark hair. We both came from the same parents and look nothing alike, so it's no stretch to believe this, especially given a basic understanding of genetics. I'm also the only person in my entire family except for one great grandmother who has red hair. It's an extremely​ recessive gene that generally skips generations

[Asker]

Are both of your parents fully white European or do one of them have some non-white racial ancestry?

[Idonthaveausername]

They're​ both fully white, mostly German with a couple different ones nobody knows for sure. I'm the only one who got the Irish genes

[Anonymous]

Kinda makes you question a lot of what we think about race. Some people would look at the lighter girl and say she is a better more honest person on sight alone, thinking genes made her better, by birth. Then you find out she's got 50% black genes, and her darker sister has 50% white genes - and, well, how can you decide which is the worse human being then?

And then maybe you pull your head out of your ass long enough to realize there is no such biological thing as race, and it certainly doesn't determine a person's worth. (Not you, the asker, just the universal "you".)

[Idonthaveausername]

I agree with you, except the white girl doesn't have 50% black genes. She could only have red hair by receiving the red hair allele from each parent, meaning she doesn't carry the alleles for black skin and hair. But it is correct that the black girl carries at least 50% white from her father. She would need to have further genetic testing to see if she got a who 50% black from her mother's 50% or if she has some other percentage

Just because your parents are a certain race doesn't necessarily make you one unless you receive the genes from that race as well

[Opinion Owner]

@Idonthaveausername Do you not get that there aren't black genes or white genes because race is literally not a thing in biology, and my first statement was hyperbole to point out the stupidity of thinking in terms of race at all?

[Idonthaveausername]

Black and white skin comes from genes. Race is purely biological

[Asker]

@Idonthaveausername While it is true that race (in terms of skin color, facial structure and phenotype in general) is biologically real, the racial classification systems themselves are socially created since nearly almost every country has very different racial classification systems that can mean something else to other countries.

[Idonthaveausername]

I agree every country has different views of race and class structures, but the original commenter here said "... there is no such biological thing as race...". Race is purely biological, scientifically speaking. Everything culturally associated with race is subjective and varies with what country someone lives in and how their parents choose to raise them. No your genetics don't inherently make anyone superior or inferior to anyone based on what race you are, but race is real in terms of biology

[Opinion Owner]

@Idonthaveausername Race is not a designation in biology. There are different nationalities and groups that evolved in different ways - some are lighter complected, some are darker, etc. and of course, that is expressed in DNA. But in terms of the actual study of living creatures, race is not a designation. It doesn't exist. It is from old bunk science of several centuries ago that we even get the term race. It literally is not a biological designation.

It is ONLY a cultural designation, it was always errant and prejudiced in nature, and the word has essentially become meaningless.

It is in no way biological. All humans are descended from ancient peoples of Africa. Our genes are human genes (and primate genes, mammal genes, and the genes all carbon based life forms share.) There most certainly are not genes that divide on racial lines, because, of course, there is no such biological designation as race.

Read some stuff.

[Opinion Owner]

journals.sagepub.com/.../2158244015611712
www.huffingtonpost.com/.../race-is-not-biological_us_56b8db83e4b04f9b57da89ed
www.tolerance.org/.../...qual%20DNA%20-%20TT50.pdf
psmag.com/.../why-your-race-isnt-genetic-82475
www.psychologytoday.com/.../race-is-real-not-in-the-way-many-people-think

[Idonthaveausername]

We categorize combinations of specific traits in our DNA into races based on the geographical region they come from. DNA is biological

Whether everyone evolved from African or monkeys doesn't affect what we view as race today in the same way we don't say all dog breeds are the same because they used to be wolves. Geography and specific breeding has isolated specific traits in dogs and we now call dogs with specific DNA a specific breed. Race in humans is the same as dog breeds

[Opinion Owner]

@Idonthaveausername No. WE don't. Science doesn't. Race is a social construct. Go read any two of those items I posted, and get back to me. You simply do not know what you are talking about, and you aren't providing counter points, just steadfast insistence on a myth.

[Idonthaveausername]

Lol I guess it's ok to deny science. You are on the internet after all

[sedrftvgyhujik]

More would assume the opposite because Marea is better looking.

[420mom]

I have two biracial kids. My daughter looks Hispanic, dark hair, dark eyes, medium skin tone. my son is dark hair, blue eyes and white skin, both are from the same dad, both are half white and half black. Genetics are amazing.

[gadoe6]

I've seen that a lot of kids who are half black and white look latino lol

[DiegoO]

@gadoe6 that´s because we latinos have that mix between black and white and native American, or at least most, been latino is a cultural heritage, you can be a 100% white and still be latino.

[gadoe6]

100 % white and be latino... latino come from latina america and there are no 100% whites coming from latin america...

[Asker]

@gadoe6 Pretty much. I'm Latino myself and the vast majority of us are clearly not "pure white"(nearly all of us are a racial mixture of White Spaniard, Amerindian and some Black African). The "pure white" Latinos are usually people who have parents or grandparents that were White European immigrants that aren't even from Spain.

[Asker]

Not always but usually the case.

[gadoe6]

but if they are 100% white thrn why are they considered latino? they are Caucasian..

[Asker]

@gadoe6 Yeah I guess but usually, most of those pure White Latinos reject calling themselves "Latinos" anyway (at least the ones I know). Beside, the culture of most Latin American countries were founded mostly on the indigenous culture, with plenty of obvious Spaniard/Portuguese influence (from colonizers) and some African influence (from Black African slaves).

[Asker]

Hence why the country, Mexico is called "Mexico" because that was a Nahuatl word along with the vast majority of the Mexican culture is predominantly Amerindian (Aztecs, Mayans and so on), not a Spanish word.

[DiegoO]

As I said, been latino is a cultural heritage, and "yes" you can find pure white latinos because it isn´t a race, for instance in Argentina there is a big white population, the same in Uruguay, just like there are black latinos in all of Latin America, mostly in Cuba and Dominican Republic. We don´t use the racial census that is used in the US which should be reviewed because a latino can even be a japanese descendant, there are many in Perú and Bolivia.

[Asker]

@DiegoO Yeah. The US is a pretty race-obsessed country where they have to make up many racial categories for those who aren't considered "truly pure white", especially for Latinos since the vast majority of us are not "pure white" and the US uses a "One-Drop Rule" to determine if someone is a truly "pure white" person or not. Nearly every Latin American countries never use the "One-Drop Rule".

[DiegoO]

Depending in what part of Latin America you live you might find a stronger influence of Spanish and indigenous culture, or Spanish and African culture. For instance in México where many define their self as Mestizos (Spanish, indigenous) even though there are African influence in their culture, the vast majority of their customs comes from the indigenous and the Spanish people. An opossite to México would be Cuba, where the Spanish culture and the African culture is much more strong than any indigenous that island could have (since the natives of Cuba were exterminated), and an exception to those two would be Argentina, where the european culture is dominant.

[Asker]

@DiegoO True but the point is, the majority of Latin America is a racially mixed region, not a "pure white" one and I do sometimes get kinda annoyed when Latinos either deny their Non-white racial ancestry for the sake of wanting to be "pure white" like White Europeans and White Americans or try to completely whitewash or "diversify" the Latino culture when again, most of Latin America (except for maybe Argentina and Uruguay) was originally founded on mostly the indigenous culture with some Spaniard/Portuguese/French culture. Not even Spaniards from Spain would consider Latinos (in general) or Latin America truly "white".

I don't have anything against people wanting to immigrate to Latin America regardless of their race or ethnicity as long people can respect what Latin America was originally suppossed to be.

[DiegoO]

I agree with you, Latin America is a melting pot of race and cultures, I just wanted to point out that been Latino is not equal to been brown, or looking mexican, is much more complex than that. We are diverse as the US wihout that racial census, because indeed almost a 100% of Latin America is mix.

[Asker]

@DiegoO Yeah I agree with you but unfortunately for us, that's the reason why a lot (not all) Latinos have historically suffered racial and ethnic discrimination here in the US, hence why Latinos ended up having to create their own race/ethnic group "Latino/Hispanic" since most Latinos in the US aren't white enough to be Caucasian and not black enough to be African-American. Even some of the more predominantly White European-looking Latinos suffer some discrimination.

[menina]

I would never guess they were twins, since they don't look alike (and no, I'm not saying this because one is white and the other is black).
It's incredible the way genetics work.

[ak666]

No and quite surprised but maybe not as much as some. I'm mixed myself (Japanese/White American) and my sister looks very different from me.

I've also met some mixed people here in Japan. One couple with an American father and Japanese mother had two kids. The boy has blonde hair and blue eyes and could pass as a full-blown Caucasian. The girl has brown hair and dark eyes and looks considerably more Japanese.

I've seen cases like this. I never saw quite as pronounced of a difference as these sisters though.

[MrMysteryMan]

Nope. Then again, how would I know this without knowledge of their heritage or background? It's pretty cool however. Just like there are albino people from Africa or some Caribbean natives are known, colloquially, as "Red Blacks", because they have lighter skin and RED hair. One such individual, as an example, would be Blake Griffin from the NBA Los Angeles Clippers. Another example would be the international model, Jamillah McWhorter.

Never, judge a book by it's cover. No truer words can be said.

[madhatters4]

i'm not surprised that they are sisters but i certainly wouldn't assume them to be just looking at them.

[madhatters4]

thanks for MHO

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well I would have not guessed it on account that red hair is a recessive gene meaning both the father and the mother would have to have that gene in order to get a red haired child (which is also rare to have the gene to begin with hence its rarity). So I would say that the mother is probably not entirely black either. But I have heard weirder things so not that suprising.

[Mexicoman101]

I'm white & my brother is half black, so I wouldn't have guessed them to be twins but the feasibility of them being sisters isn't that weird to me. The girl on the right is mulatto, its feasible they were half sisters, too. Its weird that they're twins and turned out so differently, though.

[RationalMale]

I would want a DNA test before I believed that. I did read an article about a similar case--a woman gave birth to twins of different races. Turns out she had slept with multiple men in short enough time that the white girl had a white father and the black girl had a black father.

[UnknownXYZ]

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Thus, proving "race" doesn't exist.

[jaydtre]

I've known about this story for a while, but I would've never guess they were twins beforehand. Genetics is truly amazing.

Look at this rapper named Logic, he's half white and black. He looks white and people think he's lying when he mentions his black side.
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[JohnDoe3000]

This is why it doesn't make sense to identify as belonging to a race.

[pooper89]

The red head looks a little scary. She would only need minimal make up before she could be one of the girls in the insane asylum on American Horror story

[princesskayle]

Yes I would have guessed because I'e seen the photo and story. Plus if you look at them they look a like. It is cool how things like that can happen.

[peachblossomluck]

These things happen:) I'm biracial (American Native and European ). Look how fair I am! My husband was white. Our son came out darker than both of us.

[rjroy3]

My buddy dj is a light skin, red head dude with freckles. He's black too lol. So I wouldn't be shocked, but I wouldn't guess that to be the case XD.

[rassclart]

That's crazy I would never had thought they were twins

[GoddessofWisdom]

Genes are crazy like that. My boyfriend's nephew is part Asian with reddish blonde hair and gray eyes

[TripleAce]

She does have black features a little though... they have the same noses

[DiegoO]

If you live in Latin America that´s nothing new, we have been a melting pot from the beggining of colonial times.

[DontStepOnTheCat]

daddy doesn't know mommy was stepping out at night.

[SnowHearth]

It's possible, genes are amazing!

[Brukiwi]

Hahaha genetics is amazing

[Anonymous]

The black girl is hotter

[Anonymous]

show the DNA results because im not buying it.