Puberty is a time when your body begins to ramp up the amount of androgens it produces. This effect has profound changes to the growth development, secondary sexual characteristics, muscle and bone development, and overall growth of your child.
Example - Jean Watt is a post op transwoman who underwent hormone therapy at a young age. The effect of testosterone in particularly is very hard to reveres and those on hormone therapy past puberty will have already undergone the physiological changes. Some of this can be reversed but many of it cannot; such as broad shoulders, increase height, fat distribution. Thus, resulting in the person in question having a difficult time looking and passing for the gender they identify as.
Do you think children who identify as opposite gender at a young age should be given a chance to look as much as possible as the gender they identify with rather than putting it off at a later date?
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Do you think children who wish to transition at a young age, should undergo hormone therapy before puberty?
We don’t know. My suspicion is some yes some no and we can’t tell the difference.
I know one trans person. (F2m). They are far happier post transition. There are many trans people like that. On the other hand it’s not a big secret that some trans people are miserable post transition - they were grasping for something they thought might change things.
I know I’ve read some evidence that some trans people have brain structures that mirror their reported gender not the one they weren’t identified as at birth. Not all. What we’d like to have is a good model to predict which people transition would work well for. If we can help identify those people before puberty then absolutely we can really help give them a more successful transition while not messing up people who would be better served by therapy. Otherwise I’m not sure it seems very risky.
Hell fucking no. Most children who experience gender dysphoria resolve it after puberty. Allowing them ANY sort of transitional hormones or surgery will only permanently damage their bodies and development. Why are we all bending over backwards to make children think there's something wrong with their bodies? There is nothing fucking wrong. It is natural to be confused about your body and sexuality during the developing years. That's called fucking life. You don't permanently fuck with your body because your hormones and body chemistry are in flux due to natural stages of development and growth. Whoever allows their children to do that should be arrested.
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Anonymous
(36-45)
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This goes for anything involving children, if I had them, I will not be responsible for potentially causing life long irrevocable harm to them, especially not ones based on a decision they wanted to make as a minor. I would support my kids in anyway I knew how, but when you're talking about potential dangerous health risks, I'd be a bad mother to allow that. At 18, as an adult, they may make those life altering decisions 100% on their own. That's what being a parent is about sometimes (so I've heard); it's making the hard decisions for your kids because you are the adult and the responsible one for their health and safety.
I really think of myself as an open-minded person and I want everyone to have the chance to be who they want to be (except it's harming others), but I don't think children should be making those decisions. Maybe they can use puberty blokers, so they don't get all the effects of their hormones for a while, but I don't think that's a very good idea either. It might be harder for them to transition when they're older, but it's not impossible and I think they should grow old enough to make such big decisions.
Absolutely not. Same reason tattoo places don’t tattoo minors. People below a certain age are too immature to know what they really want or to understand completely the effects of their choices. Kids in their teen years are undergoing a process of self-discovery that could last well into their mid-20s or even 30s. Some kids who used to say they want to be in a certain profession when they grow up could end up changing their minds and go for different professions when they’re older.
If our society simply accepted them as they are, they wouldn’t feel the need to force themselves into one box or the other. Male or female.
This phenomenon has been recorded throughout human history. Many cultures accept them and they get their own little box and are still treated fairly despite not fitting directly into male/female as that culture dictates. Some cultures, like ours, demonize them and say they are mentally ill or whatever silly shit. Despite the fact that the science says otherwise, it doesn’t matter because those against transgender people do not care about the science.
So because we are so negative against these people who are common throughout human history, we cause them to feel the need to undergo surgery to fit in the box that society thinks are the only two options.
I think it would be much better for their mental health if we just accepted them as they are.
You make a really good point. I think we should be more tolerant of "butched" females, and "femmed" males. If a 14yo male identifies as a female, they should be able to show up in drag at school. Come PE class, they wrestle with the guys, and then they shower with everyone else that has a dick. And NOBODY messes with them in the locker room. That would solve the whole sport competition issue. Come 18, if they want to have hormone or surgical therapy, then go for it. As long as the taxpayer isn't paying for it. I can't imagine a more adult decision that implementing a gender change, can you?
No, absolutely not. Many studies show that around 80% of children who experience gender dysphoria before puberty grow out of it after puberty, and that has a lot to do with the hormones. A boy who goes through puberty for example experiences an 800% increase in testosterone. When you put them on hormones before that then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy - I'm not sure if that's the right term but I'm sure you understand what I mean - by taking those hormones they grow to be transgender when they otherwise would not have 80% of the time.
I think that is child abuse. Only very stupid parents and unethical doctors would allow for that or facilitate that. Research shows that a great many of these children who feel they're the opposite sex grow out of that as they get older. Pumping pre-pubescent children full of the hormones of the opposite sex is abuse and harmful to them.
No, besides giving you cancer and most people growing out of it anyway, that's a pretty major life choice and we don't even let kids mark their skin with tattoos, or drink, or join the military, or drive, watch porn or horror movies... but they can make a choice about hormone therapy? No way.
No. Children can't wish transition. Children are meant to play on the ground etc. They shouldn't think about sex change ffs. If they do it only means the society you are in brainwash them hard. Even teenagers can'take healthy decisions. That's why everyone hates the tattoo that they had when they were a teenager.
If you support children to have transition you are not mentally healthy and if a child wishes for transition he/she is not mentally healthy. Both needs therapy and fix stuff.
Absolutely not. We don't know enough about this issue to start fucking about with children's developing bodies.
I personally believe that there is much more to this than wanting to be the opposite gender. Kind of strange how most transwomen seem to be attracted to women. It suggests to me that this isn't about being in the wrong body but about issues with being a man/woman.
I'm against the procedures in the first place, but if you'e going to have it done, it'll be a lot more effective either before, or during puberty. Which gives a greater chance of them not being harassed and end up living rather than committing suicide.
I get that it's a dilemma. And I don't know what's the best way to deal with that... The problem is that a minor still have not reached a point where they can make a informed decision. Yet, as you say not doing anything will *also* cause permanent changes... I *did* choose "no" in the poll. I *might* be open to attempts to slow down the effects if desired so the individual in question can get a bit more time to make up their mind though...
The reason I say yes is bc if they feel like the opposite gender then let become that gender whether they are girl to boy or boy to girl bc they all human just like the rest of us so let them know that you care enough to let them become or transition into what they want and I have a few and I don’t see anything wrong with what they doing!
one video of a happy kid and you ignore the hoards of kids who will regret it? Transition has a higher rate of regret as the patient is younger. Meaning a 10 year old who makes the change will likely regret it
dont they know who they are since day one? I loved titties since I can remember, kissed girls since I was three.. How dafuq do you go "you know what, I changed my mind, I want to be a boy again"
"How dafuq do you go "you know what, I changed my mind, I want to be a boy again"" - Happens a LOT more than you think. I knew plenty of people who had a "gay phase" in high school and college, some of whom even considered being transsexual - who are now 100% straight and are hush-hush about what they did back then. Can you imagine if these people had sex changes at 20 or 21 and regretted it?
Well I have had to wait till my 40’s for my transition, and if you want to call me mentally ill, crazy, or whatever term makes you feel better, trust me I’ve already heard them. I don’t think anyone should tell anyone how to raise their children. It’s not your child, you don’t know how she felt, so quit judging people. Just let us live in peace. We are not bothering you.
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Anonymous
(25-29)
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i would assure them that i believe that they are transgender, but should wait until their body is done growing before disrupting puberty. i love them and want them to feel like they can be themselves but i don’t want them to hurt themselves or prohibit their body from developing in a healthy way.
They're fucking children they don't make good fucking decisions. How many times did you some stupid ass shit as a fucking baby huh? Same fucking shit you'll like 99% regret it later you wank stains
I'm all for be who you want but letting a child make that decision isn't the best of ideas - I'd at least wait until they've wanted to transition for a few years, then let them.
if they do it at a younger age it would most likely cause problems for when they go through puberty.. waiting until after puberty or during puberty to go through the hormone treatment would be better.
This is flat out ridiculous. Instead of getting these people the help they need, you’re enabling them because as we all know, children that young make AMAZINGG decisions 🙄🙄🙄🙄
No. Puberty is a time where people have know idea what they are doing or what they want. It's likely that some people will change their opinion when they grow up. Things like that shouldn't be allowed for persons under 18 years.
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