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Yes it is. Women, and anything else that's feminine, are supposed to be weak cause it's natural
No it's not
It’s not natural for me.
I think femininity is a subtle strength that equals masculinity.
I don't think that it is fair for women to be criticized for being more like a man I think that it is a good thing
I think gender roles are very important... and have in a lot o ways been cast aside by current society... maybe that's one reason for so much divorce
The only feminine thing I can really think of that is weak is being excessively emotional
No, it's one of the most amazing qualities guys think about girls.
Yes because they can't cheat natura , and it causes problems in many families this days
I have no idea why (mostly straight) men use femininity as an insult. Maybe they’re insecure?
Feminity is beautiful tho it's the bullshit called feminism that's made it look bad
I think it's strong we go through so much shit
That depends on what you mean by feminine.
I think femininity is grace, fluidity, and aura.
Only into tomboys, girly girls are annoying
Feminine - very strong emotionally
The lure is only weak if the fish don't bite.
I think women did it to themselves.
No, I don't think so.
No. I think it can be good as a weapon.
Feminism is the poison.
Femininity is the cure.
Belief that everyone is equal is poison?
Feminism does not mean equality. It never did. If feminism means equality, we don't need the word feminism. We already have a word for equality.
Yeah, we have the word, we don't actually have it in our societies, so feminism is fighting for it. Would it help if we called it "equalism"?
It would help if we destroyed the disease of feminism.
Oh, it's a disease now? How would it help? And how would we "destroy" it?
Restore leadership to men alone.
So, that would make things equal? Because you said getting rid if feminism would help make things equal right?
Men and women have equal value not equal roles. Men are leaders. Women are helpers.
Bull shit women are “helpers” get out here with that nonsense.
We should consider removing the vote too.
Never going to happen.
It's not best for women to elect leaders, because women are not leaders. The leading gender (men) should elect the nation's leaders (men).
See, it's not equal. Just a patriarchal fantasy you have where you would feel more important then you actually are. considering men only have one thing needed for continuing the human race, and scientist can actually fertilize eggs with dja from females , I guess I can understand why you are lashing out.
It sucks to be so sensitive to that
Obviously Asker's mind has been poisoned.
could've shoulda woulda, not happening. We’re talking about reality.
Leading in what? What are men Currently leasing in that is progress oriented and not biased?
Greedy, are you a woman posing as a man? WTF?
No, I can just see reality the way it is and I'm not blinded by insecurities
You are lost and blind.
Was that supposed to prove something? Or just try and invalidate?
Because do far you have backed up nothing
You don't see reality. Your mind is poisoned.
I don't need to prove anything to you. Who the hell are you? I don't even believe you are a real man.
Pecs has to be a troll or one delusional creature.
I think you are a disgusting feminist posing as a man.
I have better things to do than argue with a box of rocks. Good-bye.
You don't need to prove anything, you aren't obligated. But if you don't, you just sound like you are saying nonsense or trying to rile others up. Go on my profile, one of my posts has pictures of me. Come back with some insults on my looks, I'm sure you will, but be original please
That’s always his line when he’s backed into a corner. “I don’t have time for this, bye.” Lol what a turd.
That's honestly a line I see a lot. It's usually with guys who makes claims, don't back them up then get cornered. So they try to act all superiority complex and leave. It's wean
No it means I have a life.
My life doesn't revolve around arguing with know-nothing strangers on the internet.
What do you want me to prove exactly? That men are natural leaders and women are natural helpers?
I can't force you to open your eyes and see.
If you think the sky is red I can't force you to see that it's blue.
Yes women are amazing.
Women are all amazing people.
But the role of women is not to be society's leaders.
Leadership is for men.
All of human history shows this.
There's a poisonous and deceptive force alive today called feminism.
The worst part about feminism is that it hurts women.
It forces women to be something they are not and were never meant to be.
Yes men and women have equal value but men and women are not equal beings in every way
The simplest biology
The simplest biology is proof of this
If you understand anything at all about the physiology of men and women you know that men and women are not exactly alike
Men and women have equal value but men and women are dramatically different and that's a great thing
Feminism hurts everyone.
Pecs the reality is that many women ARE already leaders so get over it.
Feminism is poison.
When you can't prove anything you just restate your lines. Your "feminism is poisen" line proves that.
Beta.
Read through his other posts and realized he’s just another religious nut bag with no real argument other than his dogmatic ideals and delusions. Nothing to see there.
Is beta supposed to insult me? I think claiming you are an alpha is worse, I just picture guys in the gym trying to act all tough and anyone who isn't as brash or rude as them is a "beta'. So again, you have proved nothing
Greedy, admit it. You are a woman.
@asker , that's good to know. Im still glad I questioned it, because otherwise his comment would have just been left here are that's worse
Feminism is the poison.
Femininity is the cure.
You know I'm right.
I already told you, look at my questions. One of them had a few pics of me, I'm 6'2, 270 , brown curly hair, beard, glasses, tattoos and scars. So if you are going to insult my looks be original.
But just trying to prove I'm a woman, doesn't make you right.
I know you are wrong.
The pics are fake. You are fake.
Feminism is a cancer.
Again, trying to prove I'm fake, doesn't make you right. It just shows you can't prove yourself and rely on weak attacks to your opposition.
Feminism is an idea. So how would you suggest getting rid of it? In an equal and fair way. Which you said feminism doesn't help
I don't need to prove anything. Centuries of history prove that men are leaders and women are helpers.
I already told you. Restore leadership to men alone.
And how is the shape of the world right now? Not to mention centuries of war. Leadership should be picked based on qualifications and votes, not if it's a guy or not.
No, you aren't obligated to prove anything, but if you don't, you just sound like you are making baseless claims.
The world has been declining rapidly from feminism.
Do you have any proof of that?
Religion is cancer.
@asker agree.
But if I can use that as an example. If I went around saying "religion is cancer" and when asked toexplsin or give a reason I just kept repeating myself "RELIGION IS CANCER!" . Then what am I proving?
You can start by studying divorce rates. Feminism destroyed the family.
Facts: time.com/4575495/divorce-rate-nearly-40-year-low/
Divorce rates aren't caused by feminism there may be a correlation, and a good one if so. Feminism encourages openness and honest, as well as acceptence. So if feminism helps someone realize they aren't happy in their marriage, it's a good thing.
80% of divorce is done by women.
@asker , even better
Feminism is cancer.
*can't think of anything credible to say* says "feminism is cancer"
Of course women initiate divorce. And they should. Men neglect marital problems and would rather pretend nothing is wrong.
Pecs, you are being worthless on your argument it’s quite comical. Please shew.
Jepordy
"Something you can say when you can't prove a point and are losing a debate?"
*Ding* "what is: feminism is cancer"
Correct, but you still lose the debate
You can see evidence that women ought not be leaders by observing Asker's embarrassing behavior.
Feminism is disease.
You are the embarrassment m’dear.
Women have great value. They are not leaders.
What behavior is that? You want to talk about embarrassing or shameful behavior look to the east coast.
Honestly, you are just spotting the same lines with no proof, it's boring at this point, do you have anything interesting to say?
Greedy, you are free to exit my comment thread any time.
I'm just replying to you, you posted on a public app, I can continue to respond as well
Where should I go? My mind is so toxic! Please help me oh wise one! I wouldn't want to infect anyone with common sense and good morals. Pls halp
I'm not interested in a lost cause. Good-bye.
No, save me please, help me understand your unjustified hatred and biases, as well as unproven claims that men are somehow better. Please, don't abandon me, I might keep infecting others with feminism
You're trying to create a straw man. I never said anything like that. Feminism is cancer. Find a cure.
Greedy, you are free to exit this thread. I can't teach you that water is wet. Good-bye.
But how can I find a cure if I'm infected, you said so yourself. I guess belief in equality and fairness will keep spreading, you had a chance to stop this.
Waters not wet!
Yawn. Good-bye.
Feminism is terrorism.
What else is it. How many things can you come up with? Act bored, you know you proved nothing except that you are ignorent and biased
Name calling proves you lost. Go away.
Ignorent and biased aren't names. They are facts. And if you really think pointing those things out somehow makes me lose despite all the things you haven't proven, then it proves my point even more
You can't even spell ignorant...
Go away.
So now you are going after my typos. Like that is somehow any better. Yes, my mistake on spelling definitely proves I'm wrong. Of course, why didn't I think of that covfefe
Cool. We agree. Good-bye. Good luck with your crap attitude.
Okay. You want some guidance? Read Google's Ideological Echo Chamber from start to finish.
It was sarcasm. An echo chamber? That almost sounds like you want to convince me of something that isn't true
From what I've seen of you so far I think you are a lost cause but I would like to be wrong about that so please go ahead and get educated maybe come back in a week and we'll see what you've learned.
I study psychology and sociology. I know what an echo chamber is. Simple fact is, you made some baseless claims, then refused to support them with any substantial evidence. Then you told me to "go study it". I have and I've learned that everything you are saying is biased and wrong. That's irrefutable
You need to unlearn what you have learned, young grasshopper.
What you call learning is actually how you contracted the disease.
You think I can't backup my statements but the truth is I have no desire to waste time arguing with you because you have a closed mind.
You don't want me to back up my statements because your mind is closed.
Your confirmation bias is so strong that you won't even listen to anything that doesn't fit into your diseased perspective.
Essentially you are part of the echo chamber.
Studying at a university and using credible sources is how I contracted a disease? Is it common sense or intelligence?
You have no desire to water your time, but you don't consider avoiding it for a debate that has lasted 113 comments a waste of time. Wouldn't it have been easier just to prove it? Unless you can't.
Grasshopper? Pet names already, at least take me to dinner first.
Men and women both have great value. To say that men and women are exactly equal is insanity. To say that men and women are exactly equal is possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone say in my life. And then to ask for evidence that men and women are different just multiplies the insanity.
I do want you to back up your statements, that was the entire point. I can't confirm my bias on the topic because the only thing I could have evidence of is that you are dodging giving evidence. That's it.
What do you want me to prove exactly? That men and women are different? If you can't see that I can't show you. That's like asking me to show you that water is wet. It couldn't be more self evident. If you can't already see it just by opening your eyes and looking around for 5 seconds I can't help you.
If you can't see it today I can't help you. Your mind is so warped and biased that you've become blind. You need to let go of your insane bias and use a little common sense when you look at the world and the people around you.
Saying that men and women are exactly alike and forcing women to act like men is cruelty to women.
You completly misunderstabd feminism if that is your proof. Men and women and cultures and beliefs are different. they all have their strengths and weaknesses. Equal as in treatment under law and in society, not "the same".
It's a belief that no matter who you are or your background you have a right to fair, unbiased treatment And respect.
Its people like you who are hurting women.
I've already said countless times that women have great value.
Men and all women are infinitely valuable.
I can't believe you have been completely ignorent of the point or meaning in feminism and you still have so adamantly attacked it. This whole time you don't understand the thing you are attacking, and I thought you might have had some evidence. What a waste of time
Men and women are not exactly alike and are not made for the same things.
And you still can't spell ignorant... You can certainly act ignorant and talk ignorant, but you cannot spell ignorant... Funny...
I never said they were the same. I said they deserve equal treatment, you talked about a confirmation bias and echo chamber and now looking back it feels like you were projecting. Amazing
Men and women are not exactly equal. Men and women never have been exactly equal and never will be exactly equal. Men and women are both of enormous value. Men can't live without women, and women can't live without men. We need each other. We need to show love and respect to each other.
It's my autocorrect. And typos are your attack point. Honestly it's incredible that you are so stuck on the idea that feminism is bad yet don't have a basic understanding of it
Pushing and pushing and pushing women to be more like men is not showing them the love and respect they deserve and need to be who they really are, women.
I know exactly what feminism is. Feminism is a plague.
Feminism is a monster. Feminism is a Horror Story come true. Feminism is a nightmare. Feminism is a sickness. Feminism is it deep pus oozing wound. Feminism is an infection. Feminism is putrid. Feminism is foul. Feminism is wretched. Feminism is disgusting. Feminism is vomit. Feminism is feces.
Feminism is a monster. Feminism is a Horror Story come true. Feminism is a nightmare. Feminism is a sickness. Feminism is a deep pus oozing wound. Feminism is an infection. Feminism is putrid. Feminism is foul. Feminism is wretched. Feminism is disgusting. Feminism is vomit. Feminism is feces.
Are you okay? Sounds like you are having a rough time. Again, we aren't pushing anyone to behave differently, that's the point. It's that no matter who you are or what you act like, you deserve equal treatment and respect
I'm perfectly fine. I enjoy using creative language to capture the essence of the evil vomit that is feminism.
You also seem to enjoy using those as a way to avoid proving anything. So much hatred, probably not good for you. I don't hate you, I wouldn't spend time trying to explain something or understand the point of view of someone I hate. If you really feel that way without cause, that's your choice, I feel bad for you. Either way, like it or not, feminism is staying and making positive change. I hope you can accept that someday
Wrong again.
Everything in your comment is dead wrong.
Hatred isn't good for you
I don't hate you
It is your choice to believe in something without proof
Feminism is staying
I hope you accept that.
All of those are true
Dead wrong.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
Prove it?
LOL - You prove it. I can't show you that water is wet.
Water isn't wet. You are the one who said I'm wrong, even though some of those statements were my personal opinions
Dude... Just stop... You're making me sad. Are you really a guy, or are you a crazy woman? Feminism is garbage. Just stop.
The truth makes you sad? Are you going with that card again, it's pretty weak
You're like an annoying little sister. Go away.
Because I'm challenging your ridiculous ideas?
No because you are so wrong and so clueless.
You're like a stubborn little child who hasn't even seen 1% of the world, and you think you know everything.
I've seen more then you have, or at least understand more of it. Again, you act all superior but have proved nothing
I could hold up the color red right in front of your face, and you would call it blue. I know how your mind works. You're so biased that the truth doesn't matter to you. The only thing that matters is information that you can spin to fit your bias.
I've already explained to you how feminism has destroyed the family.
If you cannot see how feminism has destroyed the family, I can't help you.
Marriage and family have been decaying since the dawn of feminism.
Again, you keep playing the same cards, but not proving them. You have given me 0 evidence. The family? With divorce rates, which were already proved to be at an all time low?
80% of divorces are done by women.
Also governments have been decaying since the dawn of feminism.
Welfare has been increasing. Government control has been increasing.
When was the dawn of feminism? According to you
Divorce rates are not at an all-time low that's garbage.
Divorce is out of control and it's because women are destroying their own families.
There is nothing wrong with social programs that help people getting more funding. It's not government control
Yes there is plenty wrong with government theft.
You can't steal from one person and give to another person. That's called theft.
It's a very feminine idea. Having someone else take care of you.
One example of why femininity does not belong in leadership.
Can you provide a source that it is not at an all time low? Because it's already proven to be.
Did someone hurt you? Like, an ex wife broke up with you and you find comfort in hating feminism because in your fantasy. Where men are leaders and women are helpers, you could control the women you know. Was it your parents getting divorced?
I ask because this amount of personal resentment towards an idea of equality isn't backed by simply disagreeing with it.
Femininity is meant to follow and help, not lead.
So Trump is feminine? It's not having someone take care of you, it's assistance, and people in need use it to help themselves get back on their feet. Rarely do they get everything they want, or even need from welfare, which I'm curious as to which program you are referring to
Divorce rate has doubled for adults 50 and over since the 90s.
Divorce is out of control.
Also I'm sure you have no idea how divorce rates are calculated.
Divorce rates for younger people may be down because marriage rates are way down.
That's because younger people are terrified of getting married.
Well thanks for dodging my point or providing proof. Are you going to tell me how you think they are calculated or are you going to act all high and might about it?
And why don't you under people want to get married? Because feminism has destroyed marriage.
We've all sat by and watched our parents get divorced and seen the tragedy of broken families caused by feminism.
"In 2015, for every 1,000 married persons ages 50 and older, 10 divorced – up from five in 1990, according to data from the National Center for Health Statistics and U. S. Census Bureau. Among those ages 65 and older, the divorce rate has roughly tripled since 1990, reaching six people per 1,000 married persons in 2015."
"Still, the divorce rate for those younger than 50 is about twice as high as it is for adults 50 and older."
It wasn't caused by feminism and in many cases were better for everyone. Living with parents who don't get along is harmful. You act like I don't understand but I do. My parents were married until I was 5 and heroin addicts, they fought constantly and in that case, divorce was best for everyone.
Everyone has a story, if this is about divorce there are a ton of reasons, not all are bad or linked to feminism. Why didn't you just say this at first? I get it, it's rough. It doesn't justify lashing out like that though
Divorce isn't always a bad thing, and it's not cause and effect with feminism
See how biased you are?
I show you the evidence you've been crying for.
And your reply is "oh well well well divorce isn't always bad."
That's why I didn't want to waste my time.
I can hold a bright red apple right in front of your face, and you'll say it's blue.
"During their young adulthood, Baby Boomers had unprecedented levels of divorce. Their marital instability earlier in life is contributing to the rising divorce rate among adults ages 50 and older today, since remarriages tend to be less stable than first marriages. The divorce rate for adults ages 50 and older in remarriages is double the rate of those who have only been married once (16 vs. eight per 1,000 married persons, respectively). Among all adults 50 and older who divorced in 2015, 48% had been in their second or higher marriage."
80% of divorce done by women.
Divorce is doubling and tripling and marriage is declining.
This is directly caused by feminism.
Also abortion is a holocaust.
Abortion is directly linked to feminism.
Millions and millions and millions of children have been murdered.
Feminism is poison to families.
Feminism is poison to governments.
OMG what is this question
We are in 2018 😑😑😑
No, it can be strong.
It's not weak
Infact I appreciate it
Au contraire.
Femininity is intimidating.
Nope
What ever
No not at all
Absolutely not
Not weak
Not at all
No never
No not at all
No ofc not
Yeah, kinda.