Its just different. Not worse, not better. Different. Men see it as an insult because men should not be feminine. Just like women shouldn't be masculine. Its feminism, and other retarded shit that encourage women to be more masculine. Thats one of the reasons why a lot of people call feminism cancer to society
A woman is at her strongest peak when she's secure in her God given femininity , who masters her biological composition and her inner spiritualality. Masculinity performed by a woman , is a weakness briught onward by her insecurity with her own femininity.
No, femininity is absolutely not weak. The thing I hate the most about modern feminism is that it essentially implores women to abandon their femininity and act like men. Some men don't like to be seen as feminine because it is not what we are built for, and it is not what women want in a man. Women should embrace the beauty and elegance of their femininity.
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There are women like me who would do that but men too often act superior when I do. I have to behave masculine because it’s the only way men won’t walk all over me.
Yeah I hate women playing the victim so often, blaming men and being so passive in dating waiting for men to make the move when they are clearly more interested in him than he is in her.
It would actually benefit everyone if women approached too because they would get to choose the guys they like, not get approached by creeps, not getting catcalled as much, and guys wouldn't act weird and desperate feeling they need to be perfect and impress the girl cause they know they would get approached too and have other chances to meet someone.
Making statements like men are born to pursue and girls shouldn't put in effort is why some guys treat girls like shit when they learn how to attract women easily cause girls just sound like entitled brats.
How many have you actually approached? Cause you know you're going to be rubbish at it until you've done hundreds, even a thousand or more approaches in different situations to different people until you get good at it.
So like other girls on this site who've declared they approach, you've probably approached like 2 guys, it hasn't worked out so you've now decided it won't ever work so now it's the mans job. Just be realistic about it, guys have standards too. It can take sometimes 20 approaches to get a number from someone, and even then it might take getting 5 numbers for someone just to respond, let alone get a date.
Most males of any species are hunters/warriors which is why males have more physical strength and endurace. being a hunter/warrior is a gender role or are you going to tell me that lions , elephants, monkeys etc. also have a religion that created these gender roles. and if being a warrior is not a gender role, why are men drafted and not women
Masculinity is a mans thing it's what makes us unique. And femininity is a women's thing it's what makes them unique in my opinion we should stop trying to be like the other, it's not how we should be.
I think the general consensus is, whether anyone realizes it or not, is that yes, femininity is weak. But is it actually? Well, that depends on how you define femininity, the specific feminine act in question, the context that the action takes place in, and then what it's being compared to. Some of the traits of femininity that I've seen most people hold are: being emotionally expressive, being empathetic, being intuitive, being submissive, etc.
Are any of these traits weak? Well, it depends on their context. It often takes strength to express one's emotions, it is good to be empathetic, it's good to be intuitive, and it's sometimes good to be submissive. Like I said, it depends on the definition and context. I personally would define femininity as: submission and passivity and I would define masculinity as: authoritarianism and aggression. All of these traits are good in certain contexts and bad in other contexts.
So no, I don't think the acts of being submissive and passive are weak. On the contrary, there is strength in them. For example, if I am the boss of a job and I call the shots, then I am the authority, however I couldn't accomplish anything alone, my workers, although submissive, make it possible for my plans to be actualized.
Yeah people do cobsider feminity to be weakness. I don't know why. Because women are the most strongest emotionally. And I think how us women handle such tough life situations is a big deal. I don't know why people think feminism to be weak
Yeah. That's a different issue and I saw a question about it a few days back. That when a guy cries they're considered weak. Obviously guys cry. They're human too. Its just the society. But what I said about feminism was a bit different because only a girl can know what women go through. And how hard they push themselves to be strong. I didn't say men are weak.
For instance, if most guys had to take care of their babies for only one day, they'd flip out. But women completely neglect their own self to raise their kids. It's not as easy as people think. I don't want to get in the feminism debate or anything. That's all I'll say
This is not even the issue of being considered weak. Its more like you are a man, its almost like men don't need help. Our complains are seen as whining, a man is supports to he self sufficient, we don't get hand outs for being men (like women do sometimes. All types of programs to help women). Not even his own friends or family would help sometimes cos he is a damn man. If we were married and had a fight and u called ur Bestie (that is also married) and tell her (emotional support) that u can't stay another night with me. She would ask u to come over and her husband wouldn't mind u staying there for weeks until u got sorted out.
While u are there they will listen to ur worries and comfort u when u cry ur eyes out. If the tables were turned, as a man, after I got a court order to leave the apartment for my wife and kids which i am still paying for. how would I tell my married bestie that i need a place to crash? I don't think i mentioned anything about feminism. The catering for babies example u gave wasn't a good one. Most guys couldn't last taking care of a babies cos they lack baby skills, men are not trained or prepared for "motherhood"
Unless it's sexually, it's pretty unattractive to be submissive. Last time I checked men and women both valued confidence, self-assurance, independence and good self-esteem, if they don't it's likely only so they can manipulate their partner.
@GreedyGiver651 No by definition it does. It's all about reliance on another person, being dependent on someone else. " I have never heard I man say, I hope she's dependent on me for existence"
@GreedyGiver651 How? submission relies on a need for authority, a need to be controlled and validated by someone else, how is that not dependence. I mean sexually it's the most common fantasy, for both men and women but personality wise it's not that uncommon.
No, submissive people do not "need" any of that. Just like dominant people don't need someone below them. It's a want, a personality style and conflict resolution style.
@GreedyGiver651 I don't see how changing "need" to "want" changes anything. It's still a fundamental idea that one wants to seek assistance from the other constantly.
The difference is one means , like you said, one who wants assistance from others constantly. To in social situations tend to be more submissive or open. There are submissive and dominant people who don't need others to validate their way of interacting, on either side
@GreedyGiver651 In practice this is actually super draining and horrible. I'm not saying we shouldn't be open, I think a blend of both is healthiest but relying on other people is bad for the individual as well as those around them.
Ask a group of feminists on an Island with no men to move a heavy crate some where. Watch them look for a man to move it for them. Physicually yes, family wise HELL YES
O sorry read that wrong. No I don't and it is an old way of thinking to be compared to a woman as weak. a lot of the girls I know are better than guys at some things.
Personally i think the part that people are pretending to be better than there fellows and thus they want to be stronger in ever dicipline which then begins to reflect masculine values and the problems begin when people of either gwnder begin to stray too far feom who they once were in the interest of being the stronger person
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How could feminity be weak? Women undergo pain every month which is equivalent to hitting balls, feminity is not weak. females can endure more pain, emotional trauma and and physical tolerance. Evolution has made them weak but even with that they excel in lifting things up and let's not forget the art of multitasking.
While masculinity deals most of the things by muscular strength feminity deals with wit and smartness
I think people who stand on a pedestal trying to shove their opinions in everyone's face are weak because they need to be justified by others Femininity is just a concept it's strength is based solely on those who believe in it
Man. 9 years of school time. 9 female homeschool teacher. Never once not getting smacked. Never know femininity is weakness at all
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Yes and no. Girls are very picky and choosy. Girls literally say "I want a tall man to make me feel small, femenine and protected" so in that sense, yes, I think femininity is weak.
Then girls get to say "since guys have to audition and ask us out and please us if they want to be with us, we are the gatekeeper for them to be seen as men or just beta male losers" in that context it's a strength.
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Its just different. Not worse, not better. Different. Men see it as an insult because men should not be feminine. Just like women shouldn't be masculine. Its feminism, and other retarded shit that encourage women to be more masculine. Thats one of the reasons why a lot of people call feminism cancer to society
A woman is at her strongest peak when she's secure in her God given femininity , who masters her biological composition and her inner spiritualality. Masculinity performed by a woman , is a weakness briught onward by her insecurity with her own femininity.
Well said. Thank you.
I think gender roles are bullshit.
Fuck femininity, fuck masculinity. Why can't we all just be individuals who like different things?
We're so concerned about fitting into roles and labeling people.
Masculine people like feminine people. Feminine people like masculine people. Have u ever also considered some people like those roles
No, femininity is absolutely not weak. The thing I hate the most about modern feminism is that it essentially implores women to abandon their femininity and act like men. Some men don't like to be seen as feminine because it is not what we are built for, and it is not what women want in a man.
Women should embrace the beauty and elegance of their femininity.
There are women like me who would do that but men too often act superior when I do. I have to behave masculine because it’s the only way men won’t walk all over me.
Yeah I hate women playing the victim so often, blaming men and being so passive in dating waiting for men to make the move when they are clearly more interested in him than he is in her.
Men don’t like to be chased.
Not true. Maybe some won't but the majority will like it cause trying to find a girl is like having a 2nd job. Everyone wants to feel wanted at times.
Men like when women show interest but men are born to be the ones to do most of the pursuing.
It would actually benefit everyone if women approached too because they would get to choose the guys they like, not get approached by creeps, not getting catcalled as much, and guys wouldn't act weird and desperate feeling they need to be perfect and impress the girl cause they know they would get approached too and have other chances to meet someone.
Making statements like men are born to pursue and girls shouldn't put in effort is why some guys treat girls like shit when they learn how to attract women easily cause girls just sound like entitled brats.
I have approached and it rarely works. The only men that want it easy are the ones who are lower value or insecure.
And you think that's any different to guys?
How many have you actually approached? Cause you know you're going to be rubbish at it until you've done hundreds, even a thousand or more approaches in different situations to different people until you get good at it.
It doesn’t matter because I’ve already got someone. And I didn’t have to chase. He moved mountains for me and was happy to.
So like other girls on this site who've declared they approach, you've probably approached like 2 guys, it hasn't worked out so you've now decided it won't ever work so now it's the mans job. Just be realistic about it, guys have standards too. It can take sometimes 20 approaches to get a number from someone, and even then it might take getting 5 numbers for someone just to respond, let alone get a date.
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Most males of any species are hunters/warriors which is why males have more physical strength and endurace. being a hunter/warrior is a gender role or are you going to tell me that lions , elephants, monkeys etc. also have a religion that created these gender roles. and if being a warrior is not a gender role, why are men drafted and not women
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I think the strongest kind of women, is a woman who can be strong, and tough and successful, and still be able to be feminine
I like women who are feminine.
Masculinity is a mans thing it's what makes us unique. And femininity is a women's thing it's what makes them unique in my opinion we should stop trying to be like the other, it's not how we should be.
I think the general consensus is, whether anyone realizes it or not, is that yes, femininity is weak. But is it actually? Well, that depends on how you define femininity, the specific feminine act in question, the context that the action takes place in, and then what it's being compared to. Some of the traits of femininity that I've seen most people hold are: being emotionally expressive, being empathetic, being intuitive, being submissive, etc.
Are any of these traits weak? Well, it depends on their context. It often takes strength to express one's emotions, it is good to be empathetic, it's good to be intuitive, and it's sometimes good to be submissive. Like I said, it depends on the definition and context. I personally would define femininity as: submission and passivity and I would define masculinity as: authoritarianism and aggression. All of these traits are good in certain contexts and bad in other contexts.
So no, I don't think the acts of being submissive and passive are weak. On the contrary, there is strength in them. For example, if I am the boss of a job and I call the shots, then I am the authority, however I couldn't accomplish anything alone, my workers, although submissive, make it possible for my plans to be actualized.
Yeah people do cobsider feminity to be weakness. I don't know why. Because women are the most strongest emotionally. And I think how us women handle such tough life situations is a big deal. I don't know why people think feminism to be weak
Feminism is considered weak because their arguments almost always come from a victimhood mentality.
Women are not strongest emotionally lol
Lol. You're saying that because women cry?
No because women get offered countless tissue when they cry. We cry to but when we do cry, no one cares. We deal with it alone.
Yeah. That's a different issue and I saw a question about it a few days back. That when a guy cries they're considered weak. Obviously guys cry. They're human too. Its just the society. But what I said about feminism was a bit different because only a girl can know what women go through. And how hard they push themselves to be strong. I didn't say men are weak.
For instance, if most guys had to take care of their babies for only one day, they'd flip out. But women completely neglect their own self to raise their kids. It's not as easy as people think. I don't want to get in the feminism debate or anything. That's all I'll say
This is not even the issue of being considered weak. Its more like you are a man, its almost like men don't need help. Our complains are seen as whining, a man is supports to he self sufficient, we don't get hand outs for being men (like women do sometimes. All types of programs to help women). Not even his own friends or family would help sometimes cos he is a damn man. If we were married and had a fight and u called ur Bestie (that is also married) and tell her (emotional support) that u can't stay another night with me. She would ask u to come over and her husband wouldn't mind u staying there for weeks until u got sorted out.
While u are there they will listen to ur worries and comfort u when u cry ur eyes out.
If the tables were turned, as a man, after I got a court order to leave the apartment for my wife and kids which i am still paying for. how would I tell my married bestie that i need a place to crash?
I don't think i mentioned anything about feminism. The catering for babies example u gave wasn't a good one. Most guys couldn't last taking care of a babies cos they lack baby skills, men are not trained or prepared for "motherhood"
Men are supposed to be dominant, masculine. Women like being dominated. A guy who likes being dominated is very unattractive
A lot of women don’t really want to be dominated. I like men who just don’t try to be.
I feel it's more person to person. I like being submissive to women, but dominant to men.
Submisive to women? Many women understand that as weakness
Unless it's sexually, it's pretty unattractive to be submissive. Last time I checked men and women both valued confidence, self-assurance, independence and good self-esteem, if they don't it's likely only so they can manipulate their partner.
this app is so aids. op is right
Being submissive does not mean you can't have self esteem or be confident. It's just a different approach to things
@GreedyGiver651 No by definition it does. It's all about reliance on another person, being dependent on someone else. " I have never heard I man say, I hope she's dependent on me for existence"
Submissive and dependent are two different things. And even if by definition it does, in practice and in life it doesn't.
@GreedyGiver651 How? submission relies on a need for authority, a need to be controlled and validated by someone else, how is that not dependence. I mean sexually it's the most common fantasy, for both men and women but personality wise it's not that uncommon.
No, submissive people do not "need" any of that. Just like dominant people don't need someone below them. It's a want, a personality style and conflict resolution style.
@GreedyGiver651 I don't see how changing "need" to "want" changes anything. It's still a fundamental idea that one wants to seek assistance from the other constantly.
The difference is one means , like you said, one who wants assistance from others constantly. To in social situations tend to be more submissive or open. There are submissive and dominant people who don't need others to validate their way of interacting, on either side
@GreedyGiver651 In practice this is actually super draining and horrible. I'm not saying we shouldn't be open, I think a blend of both is healthiest but relying on other people is bad for the individual as well as those around them.
Ask a group of feminists on an Island with no men to move a heavy crate some where. Watch them look for a man to move it for them. Physicually yes, family wise HELL YES
O sorry read that wrong. No I don't and it is an old way of thinking to be compared to a woman as weak. a lot of the girls I know are better than guys at some things.
Personally i think the part that people are pretending to be better than there fellows and thus they want to be stronger in ever dicipline which then begins to reflect masculine values and the problems begin when people of either gwnder begin to stray too far feom who they once were in the interest of being the stronger person
How could feminity be weak? Women undergo pain every month which is equivalent to hitting balls, feminity is not weak. females can endure more pain, emotional trauma and and physical tolerance. Evolution has made them weak but even with that they excel in lifting things up and let's not forget the art of multitasking.
While masculinity deals most of the things by muscular strength feminity deals with wit and smartness
Think they meant femininity, vs tough girl and tomboy. A girly girl if you will.
Actually its quite a powerful trait, i find it the opposite..
might be surprised how many women succeed through life just using there femininity.
It isn't weak. Masculinity and feminity are different, each have their own strengths and weaknesses, they are equal overall.
I think people who stand on a pedestal trying to shove their opinions in everyone's face are weak because they need to be justified by others
Femininity is just a concept it's strength is based solely on those who believe in it
Man. 9 years of school time. 9 female homeschool teacher. Never once not getting smacked. Never know femininity is weakness at all
Yes and no. Girls are very picky and choosy. Girls literally say "I want a tall man to make me feel small, femenine and protected" so in that sense, yes, I think femininity is weak.
Then girls get to say "since guys have to audition and ask us out and please us if they want to be with us, we are the gatekeeper for them to be seen as men or just beta male losers" in that context it's a strength.
Hell no females are just as equal in every way as a man i have seen women that have won against guys in boxing.
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Btgs012, you are the type of guy I like.
I get that a lot and for some reason i still don't have a girlfriend