Do you think women need to be masculine to be considered "strong"?

[Cubus]

[Lucy68]

No and I'll tell you why, I work at a warehouse and 80% of the time if I'm not answering customers complaints/calls I'm in the back doing a lot of heavy lifting with boxes and organizing. And due to my job I'm required to wear jeans even if I'm in the office. But let me tell you, when not at work I try to wear dresses and skirts cause I love showing my feminine side. I love getting my hair and nails done and I love shopping. I might do what some consider masculine but that doesn't mean I'm masculine, I'm really feminine and I view myself and have had people tell me I'm a strong person. I want to someday give birth to 2-4 babies someday and giving birth that takes a lot of strength.

[Cubus]

" I want to someday give birth to 2-4 babies someday and giving birth that takes a lot of strength."

I know. I never discussed it :)

[Lucy68]

What can I say I love babies

[Cubus]

I know you do

[mickmrly]

I guess your heavy lifting job should help with the future babies. My sister regularly plops my nephew from place to place during the day. I feel sorry for those with a bit of a belly, bending to put babies in a playpen/bassinet is tough work.

[Lucy68]

Thank you for the MHO

[Cubus]

You're welcome

[AddylynnNightingale]

No spirit instead.

[MzAsh]

No, a feminine woman can be strong, powerful, dominant, influential, and territorial.

[NamerOfStars]

Well, the question is "considered by who?". One reason Amazon's Lord of the Rings series is doomed is because the people adapting it don't know any way to make a character "strong" other than putting a sword in their hand. When that show comes out, compare what they do with Galadriel (who I'm told is going to be a major character; obviously this might not work if she isn't) with Cate Blanchett's portrayal in Jackson's movies. SHE could convey power with just a look- didn't even need WORDS.

The root of it is (naturally) a deeply politicized view of the world stemming from an admiration of masculinity coupled with a hatred of men, leading to a need for women to become more masculine to replace them. This would, of course, need someone else to rise up and become more feminine to replace THEM, but bluntly, society wouldn't last that long- women AREN'T men, and few of them (some, but few) are suited to filling the same role; it's almost like evolution works.

[letuswaltzforthedead]

Not necessarily, some women can be considered strong because they survived difficult circumstances but they can still be rather feminine in their appearance and character. There are definitely cases where becoming more masculine is necessary to survive or to succeed but it isn't every case.

[TroyDT2]

Of course not. I might be strong, but I'm not "carry a growing human for 9 or 10 months, push the baby out through an opening that does not seem like it can possibly fit, and then be willing to do that again, maybe many more times" strong.

[Apulu_Imback]

No, they just need to be cheerful, independent, responsible, have a decent personality and mentally powerful to be called strong. Physical aspects aren't necessary.

[Cubus]

Some say a woman that is "cheerful" is not strong.

[Apulu_Imback]

And I disagree that. A badass and lonely depressed girl is powerful but not strong like a girl who is satisfied with her life and stays optimistic.

[DevilInTheDetails]

If you’re talking physical strength, yes. A woman can lift weights and be jacked, and if she maintains body fat around 20% she can still look very curvy, voluptuous and feminine (this is my absolute favorite body type for a woman, by the way).

There are other ways to be strong too though. Not letting your emotions and passions rule you, overcoming adversity or finding happiness despite it, not letting people treat you poorly, or being a great girlfriend/ wife/ mother, for example.

[NathanDavis]

I'm a grown up...

so I don't really need to think about this kind of nonsense myself... lol

[Subarugirl]

Absolutely not... what's bullshit is that somehow society has decided to label strength as a masculine trait, which is utter bullshit.

[Cubus]

Well, the showrunners of modern shows say so.

[Subarugirl]

The showrunners of modern society also perpetuate toxic masculinity, objectification, oversexualization and rape culture

[Cubus]

Than why Captain Marvel has nothing else than "toxic masculinity"?

[JDavid25]

There's no rape culture in the West..

[Cubus]

@JDavid25 So why in the West there are higher rape rates, than in the East?

[JDavid25]

I don't know what kind of map you are using.. I'm talking about Western Nations..

[Cubus]

@JDavid25 You have a source written: Eurostat.

[Berethor]

'Real women don't wear dresses' trope? yea kinda, or 'I have boobs, you must obey!' trope. :)

[misogynistic_pig]

No woman is strong, masculine or not, due to sexual dimorphism.

[Blackcupcake]

nope there’s many different ways of being strong and being masculine doesn’t equal to being strong.

[joeldalton]

Nope. There's nothing more feminine than giving birth and feeding your child from your own body. I consider them both strengths.

[Nazgol]

Well it can definitely help with it it's a convenient boost but no, don't necessarily have to be like that.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

There is more to being strong than muscles

[Cubus]

That's why it's in " "?

[Cubus]

without the question mark

[Dinosaursandanime65]

I understand. You eat when you are upset