There's an expression - the people you want to see aren't the ones you do see.
I don't mind, but give me a with top optional beach so I can go to that one. They do it in Europe so I can't see there's that much of a hassle.
Obviously in Middle Eastern countries or places where they have religious issues you can't do this and all the outrage is misdirected. You don't get to force your ideals and beliefs on another.
I've been to a few beaches in Spain where this very thing is permitted, and everything was just fine. Not everyone was topless, just the few that wanted to be (roughly 5% of the women I saw there).
I get that Spanish and American culture has different views on nudity. That being said, I would assume that the number of people actually going topless is going to be so small here in the US that the change would probably be negligible. But having the option seems like a step in the right direction.
Just remember that the bottoms stay on. ALWAYS.
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I said No because. Firstly, I believe that women are not obviously, structured the same as men women have " tits" which is sexualized . Secondly, too many guys would ogle and fantasize or lust over her. You're basically opening yourself up to more unnecessary attention and maybe pervs.
Do you think in Afraican countries people ogle breasts... no. Because people only get excited for a while and then they get over it. Just like your boyfriend really loves them when he first gets to look and touch them, then after a while, even if they are still 'hanging out' he goes back to playing video games.
The only reason breasts are a big deal is because as children, at some point, we made a big deal about it.
Yes if you let breasts out it will have an effect on people at first and then they no longer do. Look at any place where topless beaches are the norm, people haven't lost their minds, chaos hasn't broken out.
@Volleyball_N_Surf Don't try to deny the reality that women breasts are fascinating and that it's not the same as a guy walking around topless. Walking topless draws UNECESSARY ATTENTION.
Yes people have a 'reaction' at first, because it is something they have been denyed all their life, then they get over it.
You don't think a woman in a country where the law is the women have to be covered from head to toe, if they went out in public in just a tank top and shorts wouldn't give all the men a boner?
I don't see why it would just be allowed at beaches. If we are going to do that, it'll only make sense to me to allow it everywhere outside in society (rid of all nudity laws). In that case, in my brain we need to make urinating in places like grass or places with soil (just like dogs, cats and farm animals do legally) legal. It's all in the same vicinity to me.
Going topless on the beach isn't in the same vicinity as going nude everywhere. In the USA a man can wear a Speedo on the beach; does that mean that he can wear his Speedo into the office? A woman can wear a tiny bikini that barely covers anything; so should she wear the same bikini into a fine dining restaurant? In Brazil women go topless on the beach and they dress appropriately for other situations.
The problem with comparing a speedo at the beach with one in the office is one is a privately owned business where they get to make their rules in contrast with public spaces like beaches or sidewalks. The restaurant owners are free to have any dress code they want. Also, people are allowed to wear speedos on sidewalks. Again, fine dining restaurants are privately owned buildings where the businesses paying rent gets to make dressing rules. You can wear that tiny bikini right in front of the private building on public property.
I guess your logic is based on people should only where bikinis or be nude where it's "appropriate." Obviously appropriate is a subject opinion that varies. I made my opinion based on people having consistent rights. If they can be nude on a public beach just like a man can be shirtless, it makes sense to me nudity would be legal in all public places, just like how men can be shirtless in all public places.
No because it is not the same as male topless ness. The rule of society is that we cover up organs specific to one sex and keep that for a private partner or area where this is allowed.
Given the fact only women have sex specific organs on there chest means the rule only applies to women and means you can not compare the two.
@OnlyYouKnowThat That is why i said sex SPECIFIC. Perhaps the word you recognize is Gender except Sex refers to the physical body more so then personality which is why i used Sex instead.
I don’t think there will be real equality among men and women until women have all the same rights and or options. In nyc women actually have the right to go topless anywhere in the city. They won the right in lawsuit in 1992 when a women took off her top after a marathon run and was arrested but men weren’t. Now in the summer time there are topless women walking nyc.
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As a woman I say NO. Because it's a private body part on females. They don't grow on men only on woman and mostly by estrogen which men don't have as much of. So therefor it is a private part that shouldn't be shown in public. There are young children outside that can see and people have EYES! Guys don't walk around with g string on the Beach with things hanging... but girls can
What's so wrong about any part of the human body? Nothing. Kids' eyes aren't gonna melt out of their skulls when the light of the breast hits their pupils. Do you know why suicide rates of teenagers are increasing? Well, children from hundreds of years ago were exposed to a lot of things that you would vomit at the thought of, but they were absolutely prepared for the real world once they left home. Boobs are the least horrible thing on the human body. If you can name one inherently bad thing about showing boobs, I would consider your point. Being a female-exclusive part is just a simple fact, not a reason for it being bad to expose.
@Lite3000 most teenagers are exposed to online pornography at a very young age. You don’t think that doesn’t have any impact?
I was exposed to porn at 12 years old. This was the old hustler magazine. At the time I thought it was exciting and cool but now I wish I never saw it that young. I can’t imagine what kids are seeing now.
@sonnysunshine I saw a topless girl today, at a shopping center. It was not the least bit arousing or controversial. Granted, she was about 6, and had been swimming in the fountain.
Do you have any idea how fucking ignorant you sound?
I won't pretend you're the first one to do this, but I fucking HATE IT every time I see someone compare the breasts to penises. I just straight up fucking hate it. It literally makes me want to stop and strangle kittens.
First of all, they're not even located in the same place. How is something located on the chest the equivalent of something located all the way down in the crotch?
Second, the equivalent of the breasts would literally just be the breasts for the male body as well. Men’s chests aren’t all that different from women’s chests. All the bits are still there (yes, including milk ducts.) Everybody is born with infant style breasts. How big they get depends upon genes (big breasts, male and female, run in families), nutrition, puberty, hormone variations, body fat, side effects of medications and diseases sometimes.
Third, the equivalent of the penis is most clearly the vagina. Not the fucking breasts.
... now we're talking. I thought you'd be a super annoying typical ignorant internet person who wouldn't even try to see the other side, but that's actually an intelligent reply! Yes, I agree!
Honestly, the human body isn't even THAT bad. Even if the person is super ugly, if nudity was normal then seeing an ugly penis or vagina would just literally be like seeing an ugly face. It'd just be considered normal and natural.
With the way things are now I don't think public nudity will ever be accepted in most popular places, considering how taboo it's considered... but who knows. Maybe little by little it'll become more natural. Plus, you have women who walk around in thong shorts and tiny cleavage exposing crop tops anyways, so... nudity isn't that far off.
@4804022407 Their reply wasn't intelligent at all. Are you high? DON'T show the vagina OR the penis because those are sexual organs as in organs that one has sex with, but breasts are fine because they are NOT sexual organs, just secondary sex traits. Or is this too hard of a solution for anyone semi-intelligent to comprehend? It's not an all or none debate. Christ.
not a good idea, it will cause chaos in a perverted society who already relies on porn etc.. imagine how many people who would get into fights over guys and girls being disrespected/disrespectful to topless ladies being stared at, catcalled, hawked at by the singles/taken couples/ children exposed.
There are nude beaches for that particular reason so why not use them instead?
In Australia, girls are allowed to (and do) go topless on the beaches. I did not see any chaos occurring. However it is illegal to take photos of them without their consent. The surf lifeguards do carefully ensure that this is enforced.
Funny countries like Russian the Ukraine and France don't have all the problems you listed going on and they have no problem with exposed breast. So why then is it just the US? Can you say taboo?
Many people have techphones with them, how do they keep track of every single persons with phones, hidden cameras etc? I doubt they have enough lifeguards for every topless ladies to guard their privacy?
There are more cons than pros because lot of guys who actually is from those countries on here kept saying women are hoes and they can prove it by snapping photos of them and showing it to their spouse, boyfriends, so this is absurd idea. I doubt that over there MEN are allowed to show their penises in those beaches too right. IF YOU WANT TOPLESS LADIES, All of you MEN HAVE TO BARE THEIR JUNK/balls TOO. THATS EQUALITY IN ITS PUREST FORM. LOL. I still DONT want to see any of their junks and boobs.
@BrittBratt2416 "And I'm not surprised that 77 percent of guys are okay with seeing topless women on the beach, free show after all."
I'm sure their motives seem suspicious. On the other hand if you did the same poll exclusively with Brazilians, Australians or French, for whom topless bathing is normal, then you would probably find that a more equal number of women to men saying yes. I think it's just a cultural thing, Americans are still very conservative.
Maybe 77% of guys believe in gender equality, and the right of women to choose their comfort level at a beach? Bikinis are hardly a cover from the fact that (sic) they have tits.. lmfao. Nearly all humans sucked on them to stay alive as babies, so how on earth could they be consider them offensive? 🙄
@hornysexpunk Dude c'mon you know men wanting to see tits on beach for free has nothing to do with no damn gender equality.. you're being intellectually dishonest. Plus I never said breast were offensive, however, breast are and can be sexual to a lot of people. Plus with the way things are going on in America right now with all the sexual allegations and such, do you really think it's good idea for women to walking around topless on a public beach? mmm I'm thinking no. I can just see it now, a whole bunch of women complaining about some creep staring/taking photos of their tits.. well what do you expect is going to happen when you walk around topless? Sorry but for me, as a woman, my breast should only bee seen by someone who deserves to see them and not the whole world.
do you think the situation you described actually is showing a tear in the moral fabric of a society? If you think, at this time in history that men genuinely supported topless choices for mostly sexual reasons, and women shouldn't go topless because they shouldn't encourage them to do it, then your education system is flawed so badly that your government should be ashamed.
If anything evokes overt sexual behaviou, it is a lack of exposure and acceptance.. Some of the most advanced nations in the world have mixed naked bath houses, saunas etc, the option to be naked at the beach and so on. They have very few of the problems you outline, because it is considered common and normal to see topless woman. This respect and high level of self control is due to being taught properly in schools. Less censorship of choice would allow more acceptance, therefore less behaviour like you describe. If this is what you experience at your beach, I suggest you move somewhere that has schools. 😂
I said yes and not yes in a pervy way. The reason I say yes it because I don't see why women are forced to hide themselves when men or not. Not only that. I think it would erase a lot of the taboo between men and women and rape would drop dramatically. Countries like Russia and France are proof of that. But we seem have all that backwards here in the states, no kidding.
I don't really care either way. If they're like, sunbathing topless even when kids are around, whatever. When you're just casually strolling around without a top on, I still wouldn't think anything of it, but if a parent asks you to cover up because they don't want their kids to see, go someplace else, somewhere a little more private, or put something on.
While I certainly wouldn't mind the landscape being improved, I don't think it would be very conducive to having a relaxing day on the beach in most locales. At nudist clubs, there are many times and situations when they don't wear clothing and yet the people there treat each other with respect. As a Massage Therapist, I have to be sure to focus my mind via "therapist mode" when I do breast massage rather than using "guy mode".
Well, we can't like push our boners into our bodies, so topless girls will just have to deal with seeing our bulges. If we can see their boobs and be okay, they should be okay with seeing our bulges.
Or another application to this ridiculous concept of boners vs boobs debate, is that sensitive men just realize that breasts are normal, and stop fantasizing about them, and instead appreciate them along with women. Boom!
That would be public nudity in the United States. Women are already topless in strip clubs and at some private beaches. Not every person wants to look at topless women at a public beach. Why not have topless women in the grocery stores and department stores too? Women aren't always topless in Europe.
Because generally men don't go topless to grocery stores and department stores. Your argument makes no sense. People generally wear minimal clothing at the beach.
Weirdly people don't have as big of a problem with women showing their boobs on the beach, but when they use it for their actual purpose, breastfeeding, they go mad.
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Boobs are mostly there to attract men, that's why they are big and bouncy... other mammals just have nipples, not boobies.
I see no problems with that! There I live is it legal and people doesn't care that much, it's most the females that cover up because of insecurity. It's even legal to be topples at indoor swimming pools that are driven by the city and the government.
(Those that usually behaves funny is Arabic immigrants)
Is not socially right for a woman to walk around half exposed when younger children are there and people with different religious belief is there trying to have fun too. Plus.. Woman have breast which is more precise than a mans chest.. It's two different things!! Pride ladies!! So a man can show respect and not try to stick it in because he like your boobs.
You said that this would offend people of different religions but here in America we have freedom of religion which means if they don't like it they can di what everyone else does and go somewhere your talking about tge rights if one side of the argument at least mention both sides and yes theur well be little children but so what if they do see it its their parents job to raise the kid not the ladie walking topless if their parents don't like then they can go somewhere else women have as just as much right to be comfortable and walk around without top on as any guy does
@Lilrodaggie you keep saying go somewhere else. It's the beach.. Why go somewhere else. And having freedom to express your religion do not mean you should do something to offend the other person. Am Adventist. I cannot have bring my child around topless women with men trying to hit it and then bring my child home trying to teach her not to do that. Thats confusion. Thats when we should go somewhere else? Like A different planet since every women is doing it at the beach. It is offensive, its not comforting nor welcoming to others. Don't be selfish. How would you feel laying on the beach and someone come next to you performing a ritual? There is a limit to everything. You just don't do certain things at certain places.
@zagor ooh come on man. It's not just boobs! When a man put his tongue on my nipples it sure ant just breast milk!. I do understand that a kid won't see it as nothing. But that's kids at a very young age however, kids are very very smart these days.. They ant stupid anymore.
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There's an expression - the people you want to see aren't the ones you do see.
I don't mind, but give me a with top optional beach so I can go to that one. They do it in Europe so I can't see there's that much of a hassle.
Obviously in Middle Eastern countries or places where they have religious issues you can't do this and all the outrage is misdirected. You don't get to force your ideals and beliefs on another.
I've been to a few beaches in Spain where this very thing is permitted, and everything was just fine. Not everyone was topless, just the few that wanted to be (roughly 5% of the women I saw there).
I get that Spanish and American culture has different views on nudity. That being said, I would assume that the number of people actually going topless is going to be so small here in the US that the change would probably be negligible. But having the option seems like a step in the right direction.
Just remember that the bottoms stay on. ALWAYS.
I said No because.
Firstly, I believe that women are not obviously, structured the same as men women have " tits" which is sexualized . Secondly, too many guys would ogle and fantasize or lust over her. You're basically opening yourself up to more unnecessary attention and maybe pervs.
Do you think in Afraican countries people ogle breasts... no. Because people only get excited for a while and then they get over it. Just like your boyfriend really loves them when he first gets to look and touch them, then after a while, even if they are still 'hanging out' he goes back to playing video games.
The only reason breasts are a big deal is because as children, at some point, we made a big deal about it.
Yes if you let breasts out it will have an effect on people at first and then they no longer do. Look at any place where topless beaches are the norm, people haven't lost their minds, chaos hasn't broken out.
@Volleyball_N_Surf Don't try to deny the reality that women breasts are fascinating and that it's not the same as a guy walking around topless. Walking topless draws UNECESSARY ATTENTION.
It is if toplessness is the norm.
Yes people have a 'reaction' at first, because it is something they have been denyed all their life, then they get over it.
You don't think a woman in a country where the law is the women have to be covered from head to toe, if they went out in public in just a tank top and shorts wouldn't give all the men a boner?
@Volleyball_N_Surf No. reply to ur last statement.
No one's saying it should be a requirement...
What do you mean?
Well said
I don't see why it would just be allowed at beaches. If we are going to do that, it'll only make sense to me to allow it everywhere outside in society (rid of all nudity laws). In that case, in my brain we need to make urinating in places like grass or places with soil (just like dogs, cats and farm animals do legally) legal. It's all in the same vicinity to me.
Going topless on the beach isn't in the same vicinity as going nude everywhere. In the USA a man can wear a Speedo on the beach; does that mean that he can wear his Speedo into the office? A woman can wear a tiny bikini that barely covers anything; so should she wear the same bikini into a fine dining restaurant? In Brazil women go topless on the beach and they dress appropriately for other situations.
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The problem with comparing a speedo at the beach with one in the office is one is a privately owned business where they get to make their rules in contrast with public spaces like beaches or sidewalks. The restaurant owners are free to have any dress code they want. Also, people are allowed to wear speedos on sidewalks. Again, fine dining restaurants are privately owned buildings where the businesses paying rent gets to make dressing rules. You can wear that tiny bikini right in front of the private building on public property.
I guess your logic is based on people should only where bikinis or be nude where it's "appropriate." Obviously appropriate is a subject opinion that varies. I made my opinion based on people having consistent rights. If they can be nude on a public beach just like a man can be shirtless, it makes sense to me nudity would be legal in all public places, just like how men can be shirtless in all public places.
No because it is not the same as male topless ness.
The rule of society is that we cover up organs specific to one sex and keep that for a private partner or area where this is allowed.
Given the fact only women have sex specific organs on there chest means the rule only applies to women and means you can not compare the two.
Breasts are not actually sex organs.
@OnlyYouKnowThat By which means? As far as i know during normal biology a milk producing breast is only preset with the female sex.
Breasts are actually part of the integumentary system they are not part of the reproductive system. Breasts are not sex organs.
@OnlyYouKnowThat That is why i said sex SPECIFIC. Perhaps the word you recognize is Gender except Sex refers to the physical body more so then personality which is why i used Sex instead.
I don’t think there will be real equality among men and women until women have all the same rights and or options. In nyc women actually have the right to go topless anywhere in the city. They won the right in lawsuit in 1992 when a women took off her top after a marathon run and was arrested but men weren’t. Now in the summer time there are topless women walking nyc.
As a woman I say NO. Because it's a private body part on females. They don't grow on men only on woman and mostly by estrogen which men don't have as much of. So therefor it is a private part that shouldn't be shown in public. There are young children outside that can see and people have EYES! Guys don't walk around with g string on the Beach with things hanging... but girls can
Also what about minors seeing naked people or worse minors being topless themselves in public? Not good
@sonnysunshine agree!
What's so wrong about any part of the human body? Nothing. Kids' eyes aren't gonna melt out of their skulls when the light of the breast hits their pupils.
Do you know why suicide rates of teenagers are increasing? Well, children from hundreds of years ago were exposed to a lot of things that you would vomit at the thought of, but they were absolutely prepared for the real world once they left home. Boobs are the least horrible thing on the human body.
If you can name one inherently bad thing about showing boobs, I would consider your point. Being a female-exclusive part is just a simple fact, not a reason for it being bad to expose.
@Lite3000 I did read my text again if you want. And so did @sonnysunshine
@Lite3000 most teenagers are exposed to online pornography at a very young age. You don’t think that doesn’t have any impact?
I was exposed to porn at 12 years old. This was the old hustler magazine. At the time I thought it was exciting and cool but now I wish I never saw it that young. I can’t imagine what kids are seeing now.
@sonnysunshine I saw a topless girl today, at a shopping center. It was not the least bit arousing or controversial. Granted, she was about 6, and had been swimming in the fountain.
Since breasts are just a body part, free the penis as well. 🤷🏻♀️
The penis is a sexual organ, you daft tit.
@JanetJa ok rude
So I'm rude because you're an idiot that doesn't know anything about anatomy? Grow up.
I don't much like my penis, so I'd never show it, but I'd be cool with other guys showing theirs.
A penis is a sexual organ. No. No girl wants to see that.
@JanetJa Don’t speak for all of us. I’d love to see swinging schlongs all day long.
Lmao no you wouldn't, you psycho. Nice try though.
@JanetJa if you don't want to see penises, you are lesbian.
@JanetJa Nah, I would. I love every part of a mans body so... yep
Do you have any idea how fucking ignorant you sound?
I won't pretend you're the first one to do this, but I fucking HATE IT every time I see someone compare the breasts to penises. I just straight up fucking hate it. It literally makes me want to stop and strangle kittens.
First of all, they're not even located in the same place. How is something located on the chest the equivalent of something located all the way down in the crotch?
Second, the equivalent of the breasts would literally just be the breasts for the male body as well. Men’s chests aren’t all that different from women’s chests. All the bits are still there (yes, including milk ducts.) Everybody is born with infant style breasts. How big they get depends upon genes (big breasts, male and female, run in families), nutrition, puberty, hormone variations, body fat, side effects of medications and diseases sometimes.
Third, the equivalent of the penis is most clearly the vagina. Not the fucking breasts.
Then lets free the vagina too. All of the human body is natural so who cares 😉
... now we're talking. I thought you'd be a super annoying typical ignorant internet person who wouldn't even try to see the other side, but that's actually an intelligent reply! Yes, I agree!
Honestly, the human body isn't even THAT bad. Even if the person is super ugly, if nudity was normal then seeing an ugly penis or vagina would just literally be like seeing an ugly face. It'd just be considered normal and natural.
With the way things are now I don't think public nudity will ever be accepted in most popular places, considering how taboo it's considered... but who knows. Maybe little by little it'll become more natural. Plus, you have women who walk around in thong shorts and tiny cleavage exposing crop tops anyways, so... nudity isn't that far off.
@4804022407 Their reply wasn't intelligent at all. Are you high? DON'T show the vagina OR the penis because those are sexual organs as in organs that one has sex with, but breasts are fine because they are NOT sexual organs, just secondary sex traits. Or is this too hard of a solution for anyone semi-intelligent to comprehend? It's not an all or none debate. Christ.
I think so, but at the same time there's also the matter of public decency and privacy which throws a wrench in the works.
That's why there's nude beaches.
Are nude beaches a thing in Japan? My gut feeling says a huge, big, fat NO.
I haven't seen any. I don't think there are, either.
not a good idea, it will cause chaos in a perverted society who already relies on porn etc.. imagine how many people who would get into fights over guys and girls being disrespected/disrespectful to topless ladies being stared at, catcalled, hawked at by the singles/taken couples/ children exposed.
There are nude beaches for that particular reason so why not use them instead?
In Australia, girls are allowed to (and do) go topless on the beaches. I did not see any chaos occurring.
However it is illegal to take photos of them without their consent. The surf lifeguards do carefully ensure that this is enforced.
In addition, a fine is imposed on those that break the rules.
Funny countries like Russian the Ukraine and France don't have all the problems you listed going on and they have no problem with exposed breast. So why then is it just the US? Can you say taboo?
For all beaches, that are family friendly?
Many people have techphones with them, how do they keep track of every single persons with phones, hidden cameras etc? I doubt they have enough lifeguards for every topless ladies to guard their privacy?
What about ladies who hates being oggled at and catcalled? Where is their rights?
There are more cons than pros because lot of guys who actually is from those countries on here kept saying women are hoes and they can prove it by snapping photos of them and showing it to their spouse, boyfriends, so this is absurd idea. I doubt that over there MEN are allowed to show their penises in those beaches too right. IF YOU WANT TOPLESS LADIES, All of you MEN HAVE TO BARE THEIR JUNK/balls TOO. THATS EQUALITY IN ITS PUREST FORM. LOL. I still DONT want to see any of their junks and boobs.
Nude beaches are enough. Anyone can be naked on the beach. You want topless ladies, go there. Dont come on here to try to change me.
Oh most of the females who voted yes aren't straight. They be either lezzies, trans, bis.
If it's no nude beach, yes.. if it's a public beach then no. Women have tits, men don't end of discussion.
And I'm not surprised that 77 percent of guys are okay with seeing topless women on the beach, free show after all.
@BrittBratt2416 "And I'm not surprised that 77 percent of guys are okay with seeing topless women on the beach, free show after all."
I'm sure their motives seem suspicious. On the other hand if you did the same poll exclusively with Brazilians, Australians or French, for whom topless bathing is normal, then you would probably find that a more equal number of women to men saying yes. I think it's just a cultural thing, Americans are still very conservative.
All beaches here are public by law. The nude beaches are usually those that are difficult to access.
Maybe 77% of guys believe in gender equality, and the right of women to choose their comfort level at a beach?
Bikinis are hardly a cover from the fact that (sic) they have tits.. lmfao.
Nearly all humans sucked on them to stay alive as babies, so how on earth could they be consider them offensive? 🙄
@zagor BUMP. I'm Australian, and couldn't agree more.
@hornysexpunk Dude c'mon you know men wanting to see tits on beach for free has nothing to do with no damn gender equality.. you're being intellectually dishonest. Plus I never said breast were offensive, however, breast are and can be sexual to a lot of people. Plus with the way things are going on in America right now with all the sexual allegations and such, do you really think it's good idea for women to walking around topless on a public beach? mmm I'm thinking no. I can just see it now, a whole bunch of women complaining about some creep staring/taking photos of their tits.. well what do you expect is going to happen when you walk around topless? Sorry but for me, as a woman, my breast should only bee seen by someone who deserves to see them and not the whole world.
do you think the situation you described actually is showing a tear in the moral fabric of a society?
If you think, at this time in history that men genuinely supported topless choices for mostly sexual reasons, and women shouldn't go topless because they shouldn't encourage them to do it, then your education system is flawed so badly that your government should be ashamed.
If anything evokes overt sexual behaviou, it is a lack of exposure and acceptance.. Some of the most advanced nations in the world have mixed naked bath houses, saunas etc, the option to be naked at the beach and so on.
They have very few of the problems you outline, because it is considered common and normal to see topless woman.
This respect and high level of self control is due to being taught properly in schools.
Less censorship of choice would allow more acceptance, therefore less behaviour like you describe.
If this is what you experience at your beach, I suggest you move somewhere that has schools. 😂
@hornysexpunk I live in area that has schools thank you, but i don't live anywhere near a beach.
No. Bikini's are exposing enough already. These days, we're pretty much showing our bra and underwear, but to the world. Not a good idea.
Nice answer
I said yes and not yes in a pervy way. The reason I say yes it because I don't see why women are forced to hide themselves when men or not. Not only that. I think it would erase a lot of the taboo between men and women and rape would drop dramatically. Countries like Russia and France are proof of that. But we seem have all that backwards here in the states, no kidding.
I don't really care either way. If they're like, sunbathing topless even when kids are around, whatever. When you're just casually strolling around without a top on, I still wouldn't think anything of it, but if a parent asks you to cover up because they don't want their kids to see, go someplace else, somewhere a little more private, or put something on.
While I certainly wouldn't mind the landscape being improved, I don't think it would be very conducive to having a relaxing day on the beach in most locales. At nudist clubs, there are many times and situations when they don't wear clothing and yet the people there treat each other with respect. As a Massage Therapist, I have to be sure to focus my mind via "therapist mode" when I do breast massage rather than using "guy mode".
Yes but that isn't free range to be a creep. All the same parts as a male chest are there. Breasts just have more fatty tissue.
Most men would get stiff if they saw naked boobs on a beach dude
so? Young men get stiff from almost anything. And it's their problem to deal with, without involving the unwilling.
Yeah that's your problem not anyone else's
Well, we can't like push our boners into our bodies, so topless girls will just have to deal with seeing our bulges. If we can see their boobs and be okay, they should be okay with seeing our bulges.
No one suggested that men were required to conceal an erection.
Or another application to this ridiculous concept of boners vs boobs debate, is that sensitive men just realize that breasts are normal, and stop fantasizing about them, and instead appreciate them along with women. Boom!
Only guys that aren't used to seeing them. Once you get used to it, it's not a big deal.
That would be public nudity in the United States. Women are already topless in strip clubs and at some private beaches. Not every person wants to look at topless women at a public beach. Why not have topless women in the grocery stores and department stores too? Women aren't always topless in Europe.
Because generally men don't go topless to grocery stores and department stores. Your argument makes no sense. People generally wear minimal clothing at the beach.
@zagor No they don't. Your argument made no sense.
Really? Do you wear anything other than swim trunks to the beach? You must really stand out.
Weirdly people don't have as big of a problem with women showing their boobs on the beach, but when they use it for their actual purpose, breastfeeding, they go mad.
Boobs are mostly there to attract men, that's why they are big and bouncy... other mammals just have nipples, not boobies.
Did you get the point? I don't think you did
Do your nipples have a point at the end?
I see no problems with that!
There I live is it legal and people doesn't care that much, it's most the females that cover up because of insecurity.
It's even legal to be topples at indoor swimming pools that are driven by the city and the government.
(Those that usually behaves funny is Arabic immigrants)
Is not socially right for a woman to walk around half exposed when younger children are there and people with different religious belief is there trying to have fun too. Plus.. Woman have breast which is more precise than a mans chest.. It's two different things!! Pride ladies!! So a man can show respect and not try to stick it in because he like your boobs.
Very young children suck on boobs, so what is the problem with them seeing boobs in public?
You said that this would offend people of different religions but here in America we have freedom of religion which means if they don't like it they can di what everyone else does and go somewhere your talking about tge rights if one side of the argument at least mention both sides and yes theur well be little children but so what if they do see it its their parents job to raise the kid not the ladie walking topless if their parents don't like then they can go somewhere else women have as just as much right to be comfortable and walk around without top on as any guy does
@zagor I agree with you 100%, if they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding nothing?
@Lilrodaggie you keep saying go somewhere else. It's the beach.. Why go somewhere else. And having freedom to express your religion do not mean you should do something to offend the other person. Am Adventist. I cannot have bring my child around topless women with men trying to hit it and then bring my child home trying to teach her not to do that. Thats confusion. Thats when we should go somewhere else? Like A different planet since every women is doing it at the beach. It is offensive, its not comforting nor welcoming to others. Don't be selfish. How would you feel laying on the beach and someone come next to you performing a ritual? There is a limit to everything. You just don't do certain things at certain places.
@zagor ooh come on man. It's not just boobs! When a man put his tongue on my nipples it sure ant just breast milk!. I do understand that a kid won't see it as nothing. But that's kids at a very young age however, kids are very very smart these days.. They ant stupid anymore.