When I hear plus size I never know what to think. I'm afraid it will mean obese. What is the new term for obese (fat, blubbery, roley poley), anyway? I assume in this anti-fat shaming world, obese is considered a derogatory term.
I don't know anything about women's sizes. Size 1 is a stick figure and is size 8 normal?
But "plus size"?
I do know that many women have trouble finding clothes that fit them because of their curves. If one area like bust or hips fits, some other part is too loose or too tight.
At one time 5'6" with measurements of 36"x24"x36" was considered ideal. I don't know who decided that. But how many women matched those measurements. Was is it realistic to design clothes only to fit that size?
Anyway, Lorena Duran looks really fit. In fact, she's more normal than some of the skinny waifs that the industry uses to model clothing. She does have a big ass, though. It's not that her hips are overly wide compared to her waist. Her ass is just extra prominent. Nothing wrong with that. If her bust was another size larger (36DD as oppose to 34DD) she'd be a total bombshell. Her measurements would be 36DD"x29"x43". And she's 5'9", which is kinda tall. So I guess "plus size" is appropriate.
It's good that women with realistic measurements are being included as models. I am in favor of including various body shapes as long as the models are fit and not flabby. Female consumers would be happy to see models that better represent them and I suspect that guys would find all of the sizes and shapes attractive.
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Not attracted but what a politically correct thing to do! Wow!
Smart marketing, VS has been declining in an over saturated market for several reasons including the advertising on unattainable body types when most other brands are showcasing a variety of healthy models (such as Aerie).
Whether or not people agree with the premise, women buy things they can relate to and being closer to this woman’s body type than that of Gisele’s will most likely boost sales
It's about time. Most of the people buying lingerie are women so why only show thin models to appeal to guys? Makes no sense. I'd rather see what underwear looks like on a girl with my frame/body type.
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Yes she is plus sized in the fashion world.
VS is crashing hard due to their previously smug attitude about not adapting to what consumers want so they’re doing whatever keeps them afloat at this point.After checking Lorena Dunran's pictures here and on the Internet, I am very confused... Lorena has pretty much the perfect natural female body, at least in my eyes, and I cannot call her "plus size" at all. So if Lorena is considered "plus size", then what on Earth is this "plus size" model supposed to be called: www.telegraph.co.uk/.../ ?
It just shows me that some fashion houses have very different understanding of how a plus size is supposed to look.Its sad they caved in. They were keep being harassed by Fat Acceptance Movement. If they were to choose variety why not choose somebody from healthier weight range, instead of *one* token plus sized model. What is that going to achieve? In what way is that some sort of progress?
VS problem is not body type of models albeit they could use models dress size or two bigger. They have bigger problems than that and adding a token plus-sized model isn't going to achieve anything. Fashion industry sells sexiness and glamour using plus sized models doesn't achieve that. If that was the case they'd add more plus-sized models instead of one token addition just to get Fat Acceptance off their back.
Also VS are being stealthy though the model is still close to plus-sized but she isn't too big.She actually looks quite fit and toned, despite carrying some extra weight around her frame. In any case, I don't follow fashion so I don't really care either way. They hire models to make products look more desirable, I'm sure this will shift more units to their plus sized customers. If they start parading around this one plus size model going "look we got woke now! give us social media virtue points" then it becomes kinda cringey. But I'm all for people finding gainful work in their field, so one more model is putting food on the table tonight.
Ah... Finally a model with a body and not just a walking skeleton. Totally a marketing idea. How long have they denied average to lower end plus size models? Most of their models wear around a size 0-6, if my memory serves me well.
If Lorena shows up to the VS model shows in the future, it might give me hope for the change in the business as a whole.I think most of todays women look like pigs and men in drag compared to how average women looked in the 1970s and before. At some point women got high on feminism and started stuffing their faces with twinkies, ice cream, cake, wine and cans of whipped cream. Lazy people demanding ‘fat acceptance’ awards like they’ve achieved something good.
Let’s make the 400 pound women role models. Why stop at a little fat.She's not plus sized steps average weight.. Plus size is a size 16 UK which is average size think Beyonce and Kate Upton before weight loss ( that is plus size) unsure what that is in American
I'd say she's a size 12 UK which is the ideal size for a woman if her heightGo woke, go broke.
Average women will not be buying their overpriced lingerie and the women who used to buy their lingerie will look elsewhere now that they decided to make their brand less exclusive.
But that's just the way it is.
VS never had the name, lingerie alone can't dictate the market the way fashion real houses can.I think that's great! I mean she looks normal and healthier than those skinny Victoria's Secret models no offense to them. It's about time they put a thicker and healthier looking girl on there so girls can see that all shapes and sizes are beautiful. See that girl's we don't need to be skinny to be beautiful and guys prefer girls with meat on their bones. I mean I and a slender girl but I have curves. Anyways all shapes and sizes of women and girls are beautiful.
she's only slightly heavier, like 10/15 pounds.
Other then that she's at least toned and carries it well. Facial wise she's not very attractive..
Overall VS models look a certain way overall, so i just can't really condone it. Goes against everything with their brand. Making changes just to make society happy is just getting annoying.Calling her plus sized is pretty dumb. The average American woman is shorter than her at 63.6 and has a 38.7 in waist or is about 33% larger than hers. When are they going to have fat models with large stomachs?
I can't believe how many men on here are saying she's fat when she definitely isn't. It's so shallow. She's pretty and it's not like she has rolls on top of rolls on top of rolls.
But let a woman say a guy needs to be ripped and then we're the shallow ones.
Girl is beautiful.Marilyn Monroe would be plus sized by the standards of today. So as far as I am concerned she is just a return to healthier, more natural and realistic standards that aren't designed to decimate the self esteem of young girls.
Disappointed. VS stuck with their whole ‘we only use thin tiny models’ through it all cause it’s their brand trademark, been it since the 90s. But now since it’s caused people have to stop buying from their stores they’re changing. Either way she’s still stunning
She looks normal to me. I always thought plus size meant overweight or XL, X1 clothing. As for the waist and hips, I always choose the underwear and pant sizes that fit me. Like size 6-8/26-28. I guess I have big hips? Cause everyone tells me I look slim average. I’m also 5’1. She’s 5’8, I guess she’s in her BMI range.
Ok , if she thinks she needs one. but one big question ,, What do you consider a plus size. I had the notion the plus size they were considering were sizes 20 up wards , but no its 14 or 16 , which are quite average sizes.. The sizes are UK sizing …...
THAT'S plus sized? Why? Because she's got bigger tits?
THIS is plus-sized!!never bought Victoria Secret sets for my girls, there are better ones from other manufacturers. I don't think an obese model will increase sells.. no one woman want compare herself with an obese girl and no one men will buy something that an obese woman advertises for his beloved sexy girl.
Current political correctness is counter productive for business (look and Gillette [P&G] with their anti white male BS)I wouldn't consider her plus size. I think Victoria's Secret is just trying to play towards a larger audience.
Sorry but she is not what the general population would call "plus size" they would call her body size/shape normal.
Only the fashion industry would call her "plus size" I'm sure that most if not all designers hate the female form as it applies to women below 5'10", as they seem to want models over 5'10" with the body size/shape of a prepubescent female,
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