If the reporting has risen and people being charged has risen it may appear that rape has risen. Very few rapes are reported. Only 36 percent of rapists are charged and only 12 percent of those charged are convicted. It's a complex crime.
@Screenwriter That's just sad. Crime (that's reported) is dropping, but this rises mostly (allegedly) unreported.I'm surprised that girls' P. E. classes aren't practical self-defense, but just useless sports, cheerleading, or other fluff, in this is the case. They should also be encouraged to arm themselves, get necessary training, setup security-countermeasures, and know their rights.And guys… this obsession with hookups should be addressed. Perhaps, we should look to Korea & Japan, where interest in romantic-relations is dropping: drown-out the desires in ever-rising academic-rigors, so they're too busy and/or too tired to do these things. If setting-off steam is needed, the Internet exists and should be sufficient.Perhaps, with those 2 policies, rape-rates will also drop like the rest of crime in the U. S.
Rape is so hard to PROVE. That is the main issue. Suppose a woman goes home with a man. Sits on his sofa and makes out with him. To many this means they've been given permission for sex. Even after a woman says NO, they're not going to stop. Women should be trained not to go home with men they aren't interested in sleeping with unless they know them well. Hookup culture can mean wires get crossed. You have no idea about a stranger's mores. Don't put yourself in a place where you could be cornered. Be careful. There are stats that say between 6.5 and 15 percent of men are rapists. It's very hard to glean the stats because rapists never THINK they're rapists. So take care out there.
@Screenwriter Likewise.And I blame hookup-culture. If the historical standard against premarital-sex were kept, so much of this wouldn't exist.
The problem isn't premarital sex. The problem is the few men who behave criminally. Men who are serious rapists will find a way.
The problems are many. Premarital sex, shunning tradition and therefore the accurate wisdoms and societal cohesiveness that came with it. Then there's the biological component that a few men have a drive to rape, and are more succeptable to influences that bring out their drive to rape. I'm sure the list goes on
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Stop it with that dumb shit, it’s not women’s fault for being raped you idiot
@BreadNbutter She may not have been at fault for the rape, but she certainly didn't prevent it from happening.
I was raped recently... how did I bring it on myself?
Oh no opinion now? I was in the comfort of my own home... but yeah I must have did something to bring this on. While you’re at it you should also blame murder victims for being killed... had they been more careful like us live people it would’ve never happened.
@BreadNbutter I was trying to say that IF NO PRECAUTIONS WERE TAKEN, than you made it more dangerous for yourself to go out. I was only talking about those who were raped while they were out alone.
And I'm sorry for what happened
Are you fucking kidding me? What kind of precautions? A hey don’t rape me sign? A hey all rapist raise your hand count? In the history of rape... you’d think by now people have caught on that it’s a HIM issue and not the person being raped. Since you think women are putting themselves in scenarios to be raped then yeah like I said you blame murder victims for being killed. That’s literally your logic.
@BreadNbutter I'm just saying that for example if women don't go out alone they are less likely to be raped while at a party or club.
Believe it or not there’s no way to spot if someone is going to rape you. It just happens and a lot of times they’ve already planned it out before they act on it. Meaning it’s premeditated. comments like yours are disturbing to say the least, are you aware that rapist are by law allowed to be in their child’s life? Like if they raped a women and she became pregnant, gives birth to the kid... they are by law able to parent the child. So that alone highlights how fucked up reality can be for women. by the way that’s my situation.
I'm not saying the rapists aren't to blame, I'm just trying to see how we could lower the chance of rape.
I'm sorry my comment was offensive to you. I didn't mean any harm.
No one deserves to be raped. Everyone deserves to feel safe. Everyone deserves to be able to walk home alone, in the dark, at night and feeling utterly confident nothing will happen to them. It is ONLY the rapists fault even if the woman was walking naked. Is it a good idea to walk around alone in unsafe neighborhoods? No. Does that somehow make it the woman's fault or lessen the crime? No!@CoffeeWC and his victim shaming belong just there - in the WC.
@BreadNbutter The logic is the following:if you have a see through suitcase with a hundred thousand dollars in cash, then walking into a bad part of town is not the best idea. Were you to say, bring a handgun with you, then you are taking precautions in case someone sees the briefcase and decides to steal it from you. Point is: women who willingly weaken themselves for the sake of being prideful help no one but a potential attacker. This is why I am sure CoffeeWC supports women having concealed carry, drinking responsibly, and knowing martial arts. Because these are actual ways to protect yourself from any rapist, mugger, murderer. Saying "the world shouldn't be like this" helps no one protect themself. The world shouldn't be like this, but the world will forever be about survival and fulfilling needs. If attackers can justify harming a woman in order to satisfy their financial, sexual, or any other need, then they open themselves up to be physically harmed themselves. Having a gun is good. Even a cellphone is not bad if you can wait several minutes until the police arrive to help. But to shoot a gun or to call the police requires the woman to be capable of thinking, seeing, and acting. Extreme drunkenness hinders her ability to do any. It equally makes her the easiest target. North Korea attacks none of its neighbours. But why? Because Russia can end it. China can end it. South Korea and Japan can seriously damage it. The fact that all its neighbours pack a punch stopped it from not only from simply attacking the weakest one, it stopped it from attacking any of them. Were all women to be armed these attackers would not just attempt to attack the weakest one. Many would stop trying. Why? Because any attempt could lead to them being shot. Even the weakest armed woman poses a serious treat. While a strong unarmed woman may or may not pose one.
@Naydyonov Thank you for explaining it so well. Couldn't have put it better myself.
@Naydyonov so to be clear... shoot the person who is about to rape us?
@BreadNbutter pretty much. It's self defense.
Really... I went to jail attempting to defend myself against my rapist?
@BreadNbutter There's laws that protect you from going to jail for that if it's self-defense. At least in the US.
I live in the U. S. and during these offenses they made it very clear that proof doesn’t mean anything.
I understand you think laws really protect people. I did too until I found myself in a situation where I needed the law and it became a situation of here say... my rapist admitted to it this year. My rapist is my ex husband.
The truth is it’s easier to blame women, to say they must do this or that but in the heat of the situation it’s not that blk and white
@BreadNbutter That's the problem with the court system.
It's easier to blame women when you have a rise in false rape accusations. MeToo is hurting itself.
Look there’s a lot of false allegations out there... A lot of them. Personally the me too movement has helped majorly. I confronted my rapist, he tried to say I liked it and he’s aware I feel like I was raped, even went as far to say he knows that’s how I felt when we were married. Said he was sorry, he felt like he raped me too... said he can tell I have PTSD from it which I didn’t notice until he said something. He told me I can’t say rape though because I eventually stopped fighting him and went along with it... I then said to him I should’ve screamed. Suddenly now he knows boundaries, suddenly now he’s not randomly showing up at my house. He once called the cops on me because I would’ let him inside my home. Claimed I was in danger. It’s manipulation everywhere.
My issue is it’s not realistic to say women have to carry guns... once we use it we still have to prove self defense. I went to jail using my fist against him, what would’ve happened had I had a gun and shot him? Yes finally no more rapes but now I have to prove I had reason to kill
The world is an unfair place and it's sad.
I know you’re just saying that and it’s ok. You’re entitled to your opinion. Maybe women will start shooting guys the moment they get scared. Pretty sure they’ll end up like Cynthia Brown but I could be wrong.
@BreadNbutter If need be yes. I prefer good women not to be raped and the attacker to be shot (leg, stomach, arm, chest if necessary), then have the woman be raped and the attacker get want he wants. For me the thought of a man holding down a woman, violating her, and receiving pleasure from her pain and his power over her sickens me. So yes, I think any man or woman should do what needs to be done in order to stop the attacker. Would you not shoot an attacker trying to rape your child? You would. Anyone would. The child is a person, so is an adult. And the adult should not have to be subjected to cruelty either. Age doesn't make cruelty any better.
@Naydyonov I truly appreciate you saying this because that point of view changed it all. I would kill him if I saw it happening to my child. I like many freeze in the mist of it... I can’t even tell you why. I know kung fu, have done some boxing in my past. I think it’s easier to show proof with children but that’s a very good perspective. I guess I care more for others than myself... goodness it hurts to view it that way but I’ll look into getting a gun and getting good at shooting it. I still think I’ll end up doing jail but for my son it’s worth it
@BreadNbutter how funny it all becomes when you aren’t using it to bludgeon over emotion idiots.
@MisterAnon69 right right
@BreadNbutter rape is a heinous crime that is really not all to common anymore in good western countries, if you are safe and smart and armed your chance of being raped is close to none
People should control their actions and not rape women or men. If a man would get raped by another man would you say the same thing?
We as women have the same right to be out alone as men do. I'm not saying anyone should be running out getting drunk but women have a right to go places alone as much as a man.
@sejla being a rape victim does not make you an expert on rape. I’m sorry this happened to you but you don’t have any moral authority just because you were raped. Just like people who have been robbed don’t know anymore than anyone else about robbery. In fact, by your logic men are the very people who know more about rape, because they are the rapists.So men know more about rape than women, but women refuse to heed any precautions or advice they give lol
@Hannajenky I've never been raped.
@Hannajenky I didn't say women shouldn't be careful what I am saying is that as women we should have the same rights as men to do things by ourselves. Women can take all the precautions in the world and still end up in situations where they get raped. The majority of the time it is someone they know and possibly trust.
@sejla I meant bread butter
@sejla we're not trying to say you shouldn't have rights. We are just trying to keep you safe from those with ill intentions.
Yes I understand. I think the part about prideful is inappropriate. Women live with the fact every day we don't have the same freedom of movement as men. Walking outside alone after dark is hard if not impossible. Taking that short cut down the alley that might save 10 minutes might not work. Accepting a ride home with a fellow classmate or co worker who we kind of know might be risky. It just sucks sometimes. My favorite time of day is at night and it is the most restrictive part of day.
Yeah it sucks but that's just the way it is.
It is not true. A man has a higher chance of being punched in the face by a random person than a woman does of getting assaulted by a stranger at night.We can not blame men because we are afraid to walk at night.Being afraid of the dark is no one’s fault but your own.You are responsible for your own emotional states. This includes your fear.
@Hannajenky z Your kidding right. I think most normal women have a tiny bit a fear coming home at midnight and walking from their car to their front door. That is part of the vigilance one has to have being a woman. I'm shocked that you aren't aware of this. I'm not saying we walk around in a constant state of paranoid fear but that is the reality of life all over the world.
strike the normal part that sounded snarky. I meant most women. darn tik tok and no correction
Ah yes, how dare women go to a party or a club. Gunna be a big yikes from me dog, what in the fuck is wrong with you.
@sejla yes I am afraid sometimes walking alone at night I live in a small town and sometimes I scare myself with thoughts. All I am saying is that we are responsible for our own emotions. It is not anyone else’s fault that when we are afraid. If I am walking home and a car is coming and I scare myself with thoughts because I watch to many horror movies lol I can’t blame the car for scaring me, I take responsibility for my fear.
@Hannajenky It really is other people's fault though. Rapists' fault that we have to take precautions. It isn't just imaginary fears but reality. I live in a small city in Texas and we have a higher sexual assault rate than the U. S. and even Dallas. We, also, have a lot of human trafficking going on. People are shipped out of Texas to California and the East coast.
A police officer in our area told me that some guy's wife almost got sold into the sex trade because her husband stole some money from a guy in a Mexican based gang.
@BreadNbutter In most instances simply being visible armed or drawing a weapon ends the dangerous encounters. Rapists are cowards, they aren’t looking to die to a random woman. You have committed a strawman.
@MisterAnon69 I honestly don't want to carry a gun and I don't think I"d react fast enough to use one anyway. Not sure if they'd give me a gun license anyway since I have documented anxiety/depression. Not sure if that falls under psychiatric issues that would bar me from a gun license. Seems like in Texas one just needs to be breathing to get a gun license though.
@sejla there's no such thing as a gun license for basic small arms in America...
@MisterAnon69 it's either a concealed carry or an open carry. I guess that's what you call it now.
@BreadNbutter So that is something to work on. You have the same right not to suffer as a does a child. Because you are not less important than a child is. Nor less important than another woman.
@Naydyonov I agree but again that just shoot thing is not thoroughly worked out within the system so it’s not a smart thing to toss around. It’s assuming we don’t actually want to hurt our attackers and that’s not true, we just fear the law unlike them. With this major lack of support from men it makes a ton a sense why women refuse to come forward.
@BreadNbutter I believe most men who do not support women who have been raped are those who are not masculine. Masculine men love women and would not want bad, weak males to attack women. This is what I believe. The system is quite broken in many ways, I agree. Because the judge starts judging the victim for how they responded to the crime, as opposed to the criminal and his or her crime.
@Naydyonov Thank you, that little bit of understanding goes a long way. It’s altogether blurred, what if the girl is too young to carry a gun? There’s so many things that make having a weapon not be the only answer. What if she has a gun and it’s too far to grab? I understand the overall helping to prepare women and I totally agree but sometimes all the preparation in the world goes out the door.
@BreadNbutter Yes, that is true. Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack that was hard to prevent. The important thing is to respond appropriately: with the full force of fucking Merica. Same thing applies here. If you didn't manage to stop the attacker from successfully carrying out the attack then the fucker must be punished.
@Naydyonov very true
@BreadNbutter I hope you are able to move on from the experience. I would highly recommend you to continue taking your classes (you can even ask the sensei to show you techniques to stop an attacker who is on top of you; I am sure he will understand), and think about buying a handgun, rifle, pepper spray, etc. These are good things to have were intruders to enter your home. Intruders tend to be men and were they to come across an attractive defenseless young woman... so I think it is better for you to not risk your wellbeing by having to submit to the desires of bad people. Keep yourself safe. "Prepare for the worst, hope for the best."Good day madam.
Healthy sexual relations are just a dom / sub fetish?
This guy has probably raped before.
As a woman I fucking disagree, you rapist make me sick. By the way I’ve been raped more than once by the same person and he admitted it but guess what he’s walking free.
@BreadNbutter sorry to hear. This guy is just a sick attention seeking prick.
@eila7 you’re so sweet, thank you ❤️
Not saying, though, that all people commit crimes. It is very much a case of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch
They're messed up in the head. You're not going to get them to respect women. These people have mental illnesses, it's not just about a lack of respect.
Well it I guess if she issues her gun to stop the treat and they die as a result then I guess that's one less. I don't know how with my know to get to the source of fixing the mental health. Its complicated But women having the best to to defend themselves will work in the meantime.
thats the only answer to this question,its the cause... girls rising pickyness in 2019... that why rape is inctreasing
@mrAnon- stop with the aggressive tone and spouting unverified data and fake facts
Stop bullying the ladies
@SmokyEnrique St Vincent and the Grenadines
Well we can't exactly kill rapists if thats what you're trying to accomplish
@_Jay_ well there is a chance he'd get raped in jail or get killed. would you get raped to see if it happens? or should there be better justice for the victims? meaning longer sentences without parole.
@SmokyEnrique I don't think false cases. In the past women didn't report rapes because the trials were too difficult or their cases might not get fully investigated with rape kits being stored for years without being tested. And rape against men and boys never got reported because there was such a stigma against them coming forward. Things have changed a lot since I was your age. A lot more cases actually get prosecuted. Rape isn't anything new. I"m sure there are false cases and those people bringing false cases should be prosecuted but to only dwell on the false cases disrespects the real victims women, girls, men and boys.
I knew u can t think false rape coz feminist "false rape case doesn't exist!!! I already knew 😉 feminist. Lol
@SmokyEnrique I'm talking about men and boys being raped too. How is that being a feminist. I'm saying bad things happen to humans.
That's not the case in Europe... Rape and sexual offences have risen quite dramatically in Sweden...
@xyz94 Sweden is a VERY special case though. The reasons for that are crystal clear.
Although with the inconsistent enforcement of our southern border the fact is there are many illegal undocumented people in our country who are statistically far more likely to rape then Americans are that could be contributing to the higher number
Yeah, really. Part of why is that there's no consequence for filing false allegations.
I mean if theyre there then theyve done bad shit so yea. They deserve it. Women in prison do deserve it too. We're talking about innocent people outside of prison who get raped.
You realise you just said everyone in prison deserves to get raped right? Just because they're in prison, it doesn't make them the worst person on Earth or anything. Not everyone in prison is there for being a serial rapist or child molestor etc.
97% of U. S. prisoners don't actually have trial to prove their innocence.
Yea i know that. But if you're going to prison youve done some bad shit. So yes. I realize that I've said that people in prison deserve rape
And thats US problem. Im talking worldwide
Uhh... yeah no, read about Kalief Browder's story. His is not a unique story. And out of all the countries on the planet, the U. S. alone has a whopping 25% of all prisoners worldwide. But no it's sad if you think he would deserve such horrible things done to him for just being a black male no more than 3 years older than you when incarcerated.
Yea and he did something to deserve it. If you go to prison you have wronged society enough that not caring should be normal.
Ah. Well, would you mind telling us what he did?
Well he was charged with robbery and assault. He couldnt be bailed out as he had previous case still going on. It was an unfortunate situation and shouldn't happen. He was one of the innocents who suffered and thats sad. What matters is that he was one of the few incidents.But i did say that we're talking about prisoners around the world, yet yiu gave me an example of US. Which kind of well isn't a good example...
What leads you to suspect that this is rare? And just possessing drugs like marijuana means that you deserve rape? ... ? ... You do realize some people still serve life senteces just for having marijuana or crack... ... What are your statistics or evidence for world wide crime that makes you believe that someone is morally justified to rape those prisoner
studies can't prove something related to morals. morals are different for everyone. If something is prohibited then its prohibited for a good reason. If you get life sentence then it is for a good reason. Now onto why i believe that it is a rare case, it is so because people wouldn't believe in government and police if it wasn't. If innocent people got a life time imprisonment then sure as hell people would be rebellious and angry witb their country, which any self respecting government simply can't allow, thus they need to give people the feeling that theyre righteous so they imprison those who deserve it.
Jay you are very naive. I don't usually like bringing age into things but you are 15 so at least that gives you a bit of a pass at the moment. I hope in the future you can look more into the lives of some prisoners and also look into other things etc related to prisons and the system, see things as less black and white, and also work on your empathy towards others, a lot that had not grown up in good environments or had things handed to them. Nobody deserves rape, it is a very tramatising and life altering experience. It doesn't excuse their actions but rapists that had been molested when they were young etc, it's a bad cycle and putting prisoners through that, especially a lot of the ones that have already been through a lot or have not commited a more extreme crime, will only have negative effects downd the line.
you're thinking of it as a fkn butterfly effect dear lord. Butterfly effect does not exist. It is not definite. Bad childhood doesn't stop someone from changing. So saying that rape is a circle because rapists wereraped is a shit excuse. They should know how bad rape is and thus avoiding it at all costs. So your logic is flawed. My logic, as in who should be out under the current prison treatment, is based on a world where there are no false accusations so no person goes to prison for something they haven't done. Idealistic world indeed, but it would work.Your logic is based on the situation that most people who are imprisoned shouldn't be in prison. In that world, rape shouldn't indeed be a part of prison life. But as people have tried and failed to change it, i do believe that such thing should be left as it is.
Like I said, you'll inform yourself more over time, it's not excusing anything, I'd reccomend looking into criminal psychology etc as well as everything else. Your logic is based on a world that is not currently reality.
isn't yours as well though?
No, mine is based in reality, which is why I can so easily disagree with thinking everyone in prison deserves rape. It'd be nice if we lived in a world more black and white in the prisoner aspect, where everyone there has done some abominable thing and even after looking into all aspects of the situation would be a danger to society or something, but that is unfortunately not the case. It just isn't the current reality, it'd take a lot of work on a lot of different parts of society to get to that point.
About 5 or 10 hangings on TV would stop it instantly
Rape existed long before pornography was around. Thats like conservative republican talking points such as blaming video games for violence.
@DWD1994 Yes it existed befor but it wouldn't be so prevalent with all this rape supporting porn out here.
Statistically speaking, the time period we're living in right now is actually the safest it's ever been. So I really don't buy this idea of rape being the highest it's ever been..
Hi, why do girls wear shorts under their skirts and dresses :(
@grantlee123 I've been asked this same question twice now. Bugger off.
Please answer it and I won't ask anything else :(
And that's what they all say but it's not going to stop and remember criminals don't follow laws and will never follow them it's like banning guns completely useless because criminals will never get guns legally and will never get any guns the legal way because they will always get them from other sources basically just the way it is now even with rape it can't be stopped just as you can't stop criminals from getting guns