Is it a woman’s world these days?

[Anonymous]

It used to be a man’s world right? Things have change d a lot!!!

In todays world everything is run by women. Getting a job is easier as a woman, you’re encouraged to value education more when your younger. So many people tell you to be independent and what not! Most careers encourage/take on more women due to the Imbalance. These days in America women own more wealth then men, as a percentage. Okay they’re more women in the world, but either way you earn the same as men.

Dating, finding a partner is so much easier. You can be average looking and how so many options on dating apps. It’s ridiculous! Insane!

You up can express yourself and not have your femininity questioned. You have more friends, you have more support, you’re closer to your children.

Being a man is a shit and lonely place to be!

It’s a woman’s world

It’s a man’s world

Other

[LightEnd]

You would call me an original feminist. I think women are so equal to men that we need to abolish alimony, and child support, be like a man where you have to worry about youself. Also, we need to stop shifting blame to men and it needs to be shared. If a womans relationship didn't work out she shouldn't get cash and prizes. Odds are overwhelming that she had a part to play in the failure of the relationship.

I find it interesting how, on the one hand, women suggest that men allowed this, as if we are their superiors, and then suggest equality in the same breath so to speak.

The problem I experience the most, is a womans ability to hold contradictory opinions and argue them without realizing that they are oxymoronic, all the while with a straight face.

Saying that men allowed this, is an easy way of relieving yourself of equal responsibility for the unjust nature of our current family laws.

The fact remains that if society crumbled and all of these unjust laws were not upheld by the government, I'm pretty sure women would not be able to back up all their talk about being equal and would quickly realize that in reality, they aren't. It's only in this fantasy land that has been constructed in their mind, by feminism.

It's like women use equality when it suits them and traditional "poor old me" "I'm the weaker sex" when it suits them.

I have a lot of respect for truly independent women. However. Sadly I only know a couple. Most of them are wannabes and independent in attitude only, not in action.

[EmbraceThePain]

It’s easy to say this is a woman’s world if you’re so fixated on all of the supposed positive things afforded to women, at the same time ignoring the negatives and ignoring the positives of what is afforded or given to men. Now, one of your points says that even an average-looking woman can have a plethora of options on dating apps, which isn’t necessarily wrong but let’s dissect that a it. While it’s true that an average woman will have a good amount of options on a dating app, it’s not entirely clear what the quality of these options is nor their intentions for the woman. It could be possible, depending on the woman and the specific app, that these men can only want the woman for one thing and then discard her afterwards, which is hardly what women want. Also, these men can be unattractive or undesirable to the woman, so that’s not ideal as well. You’re thinking with the brain of a man so you’ll think of how it would be awesome for you to have so many options, and since you’re a man and less picky as opposed to a woman, you’d probably find a lot of these options to be desirable to you and you most likely wouldn’t care about them being interested in you only for sex.

[Shezadi]

People become successful with hard work.
Both genders should be happy for each other.
However, both genders are jealous of each other.

To be honest, there is a lot of jealousy against successful people.
Successful people should not be given evil eyes.
On one hand, we feel sorry for those who are suffering and at the same time, we feel jealous of happy and successful people.

Men and women were created to complete each other not to compete with each other.

There is jealousy in every situation be it gender, age, class, race and nationality.

I say nationality because as a British Asian, I know many native Asians are jealous of me because I have a red passport.

Sometimes, native Asians tell British Asians how lucky and privileged they are without knowing the full story.

I say this because I am a British Pakistani and my Pakistani father is told by his fellow native Pakistanis that he is lucky and privileged even though he is a factory worker and doesn't even own his house. Even when he did construction work in Hong Kong for 12 hours a day in the sun, 6 days a week with only 7 days off every year, he was still told by his friends in Pakistan that he is lucky and privileged.

[Shezadi]

Some people will never be happy. When a woman stays at home, people complain and when she works, people complain. This is a lose lose situation.

[Grande_Beefy_Swirl]

Compared to most Pakistanis your father IS privileged.

People don't just hate "success" because they're jealous. That's an incredibly callous view of class-criticism. You have to considerthe suffering of others. Just because you were lucky enough to get somewhere doesn't mean you get to turn your nose up at everyone else you consider under you.

This all comes back to the capitalistic idea of a meritocracy, which is a myth (at least in America, I'm somewhat unfamiliar with European economics).

a lot of what people consider their "merrit" is actually the result of luck or privileges others don't have. Nobody's trying to 'punish' people for that.
But the "successful" need to be reminded that just because YOU did it doesn't mean everyone else can. Just because YOU were able to get somewhere you're proud of doesn't mean that other's aren't struggling as hard as they can to do the same. In fact, most people just want enough money to survive, but that's not even attainable for some. (In the US at least)

[Porcelaine]

And you don't think men are not responsible for any of these things? Women just do what they have to, they work hard and earn those things, even if they don't and they sleep their way to success, it's men who allow this to happen. Women get dates easier because men are not picky. Woman dates for a potential relationship men just want to get laid. Closer to the children? Your gender does not determine how good the relationship with your kids will be, that's just stupid. Stop whining and start doing something to improve things. It used to be a mans world and women had no choices. Do you think they got to how things are today with your attitude of whining? No, they fought for a long time to get some equality. Noone has an easy life. It's up to you if you try to change things or drown in pointless self pity.

[Chase7777]

Do you write the same thing when there are posts about where women are disadvantaged?
I think I know the answer.

[Porcelaine]

@Chase7777 I always write to people who are whining, men or women, either do something to change it or change perspective.

[Chase7777]

Lol, you're an idiot.

[Porcelaine]

@Chase7777 Im an idiot for thinking taking action is better than whining? Ok 👌 good luck to you

[Chase7777]

I don't know why women always feel the need to tell men that their problems don't matter and that they should stop whining. Men never tell something like that to women. I guess women can't stand something being not about them.

[Porcelaine]

@Chase7777 I never said their problems don't matter I just said whining is not going to solve them. Men have been telling women their issues are irrelevant for centuries

[Chase7777]

It doesn't seem like women are aware that men have issues so raising awareness is a way of trying to change things.

Your whole comment was saying men are at fault for their problems. So I guess women were also at fault for all of the sexism they faced.

[Porcelaine]

@Chase7777 not all problems, just some of them. And yes, men are the ones who have to start raising awareness. Only a person who is aware and wants a change can spread that around. Women raised awareness for sexism against women. Lesbians and gays raised awareness for discrimination against them. Blacks raised awareness for racism against them so if you want people to make a change on how men are treated don't wait for the ones who mistreat them to do something about it.

[noodles5]

I think women are finally receiving the recognition we deserve, what every human deserves. Instead of focusing on man vs. woman how about we just focus on humans, and not worry about the gender they obtain. I look forward to the day equality fully exists, and there’s a equal percentage of males and females in every department of every field for there is so much for society to gain when males and females unite with their Experiences and knowledge.

[Shezadi]

Thank you

[Shezadi]

I remembered that joke "I am a girl not noodles that are ready in 2 minutes"

[Shamalien]

This is so fucking stupid. Equal amount of men and women in every department? So if 99 qualified men apply and one qualified woman does we have to turn away 98 men? You do realize that there are some professions which men like a lot more than women and vice versa right? So are we gunna force women to be coal miners? Are we gunna force men to be nurses?

[Shamalien]

Focusing on having an equal percentage of men and women in every industry is so fking sexist it blows my mind that you think you aren’t obsessed with gender

[MissDawn7961]

sadly , yes ! a man meets a woman and they fall in love ! the man and woman get married and have children ! then the husband goes off to war and his wife is left to handle everything including - supporting the children , the house work and everything - ! God made woman as a help mate for man and not his servant ! then there is the other side too ! the man meets the woman , they fall in love and get married ! they have children ! then he leaves the wife and children and becomes a - dead beat dad - ! now she has their children and has to take care of everyone and everything too ! What a ripoff ! Once this happens she needs government assistance and help from all resources she can get while the - dead beat man / dad - just disappears until he wants more sex or food from her and their child's mouth ! Men like these need to grow up before they end up in court and he is forced to pay child support ( ya right ) ! Thanks

[TheMadAsshatter85]

Could you speak a little more loudly we can't hear you when you're all the way up on that pedestal. Sure there are some pretty crappy men out there, but If a woman finds herself in a situation where things suck it was likely due to a long string of poor life decisions. That's part of wearing your big-girl pants, if you f*ck up, it's on YOU.

[Skyrim5346]

Don't listen to him he is just not in a good place about his sexuality and is questioning his sexuality if you know what I mean 😎😎😎

[NYCstreetPhotog]

This is a man's world, this is a man's world
But it wouldn't be nothing, nothing without a woman or a girl - James Brown... great song and great message, and yet sad, and uplifting at the same time...

He's lost, in the wilderness, he's lost in bitterness!
This is a man's world.
But it wouldn't be nothing without a woman or a girl!
Now Listen here!
A man needs a woman,
A man needs a woman,
Got to have a woman now,
Man!
Man can make everything he can,
But, a woman makes a better man!

So true!

[DWornock]

For a very short time, far less than 10,000 years (a flash in the pan compared to the millions of years of the Stone Age during which modern man evolved), it may seem that it is a woman's world. However, since it is impossible for women to enforce their rights, the only rights that women have are rights enforced by men so ultimately the men are in control. For a very brief period of time (probably less than even 1,000 years and perhaps less than 100 years) men will allow women to have a lot of privileges.

An example is Iran. Under the Shah, women had considerable rights and privileges. However, after the revolution, their rights were taken away and there was nothing the women could do about it.

[Unit1]

It's our world. The problem is the genders fighting the other gender like it's a competition, then say the other gender is privileged. Maybe it's just me but i haven't seen any gender specific discrimination in any hiring process or university admission. That's literally illegal. (with the exception of sex workers and strippers and pornstars).

i believe if someone wants to moan, they'll always find something trivial to moan about instead of taking responsibilities into your own hands and kicking the worlds butt with it. And that alone is as unattractive as 70 year old seniors, who pay for college aged escorts (no judgment from me).

[Creepazoid]

Dude women get more jobs because of affirmative action. And of course women will earn more if in today's world it's the woman who'll be thought of first before the man. Dating is always easier when you are the selected and not the pursuer. Women have more support because they tend to need more emotional support and children were always closer to the mother due to their nurturing nature. But yea I agree with you that in today's society men are more of the underdog compared to women but honestly it's not by much. I'd say were nearly equal wit women tipping the scale by a little but not a lot

[SexualChocolate85]

It's not a womans world and it never will be. Women don't own or run anything, not even the high heels on their feet. A woman may have a leadership role but trust me there's a man in the background calling the shots and paying the bills. Most things a woman has was allowed or given to her by a man. The real kicker is some of the best looking women out there were born a male, let that sink in. Beyonce once said girls run the world yet Bruse Jenner won woman of the year that year... lmao. If it wasn't for men women would still be barefooted in bed sheets. Remember ladies men do it best, always have and always will.

[jennifer_bloom]

I think its your world if you make it your world. I know a woman with two insanely gorgeous sisters and both were too lazy to work or go to school so got married as soon as they turned 18 to bread winning men and both were severely abused and mistreated because the guys knew they could get away with it since their wives were jobless and needed the guys income.

[lucian_lucian_123]

If a man would say such words against women in general will be lynched 100%. What means severely abused? You are just another feminist men hater, that's all. You are simply throwing garbage at men, telling all are the same, men if have any occasion will severely abuse a woman. This is a highly miserable speech against men, and that's all it is. This is because the men society you are throwing garbage at is permitting you that. And by the way, men really had the power in the old society, but rarely a woman was bad treated just because is a woman. To stay home and take care of your children is far from being a bad treatment, because in that times all the work was hard physical work, and in fact to stay home was just a protection for the woman.

[LordSnuggles]

What's with the incel flooding this app. It's like some hornet that let out pheromones to let the other pests know it's safe to invade. This way of thinking is rightfully relegated to a minority or angry insulated subreddits and it shows. No one mainstream believes this stuff for good reason. It's just whiny ranting.

[LightEnd]

It's funny you say that. I have always been in a relationship my entire life, have no problem socializing and always have options. Just because a person is smart enough to figure out that all the laws are actually biased in favor of women, doesn't make him socially inept retard.

I hope you never have to experience getting royally screwed for most of your life because some woman (who once said she loved you) uses the government to stomp all over you because she can just turn you in for cash and prizes and find another pony to ride and break in.

This is why men are saying relationships and marriage are not worth the risk and all the laws are biased in favor of women. Because they are. You may want to think long and hard about what could happen to you if you trust someone and put all your resources up for grabs and risk losing your children. Right now. If you have a penis and walk into family court. YOU LOSE automatically.

[LightEnd]

And you keep losing for 10-20 years.

[LordSnuggles]

Well I'm not an idiot thats why I've managed 6 relationships over the past 14 years without any incident. I jsut know how to pick. You don't. That's not anyone's fault but your own.

[LordSnuggles]

And that's a MGTOW slogan basically. Just sit in a corner and don't bother anyone if you feel that way. You won't get hurt and you won't annoy anyone with your dumb ideas. Simple.

[LightEnd]

Maybe your right, I did pick both of my ex wives, but the woman I was dating acted very different after she "caught me".
What I mean is, sometimes the crazy, psychopathic traits are hidden until after it's too late.

If things were truly equal, and women and men were treated equally in divorce and child custody. Then I would say, go on and get married. But since they aren't equal. If you get married and have kids your taking a big risk.

Unfortunately, every man who thinks this can't happen to him may soon experience it and its painful man. Getting divorce raped doesn't just hurt you "feelings". It ruins your entire life until your 40-50.

Over half of marriages end in divorce, 80+% of divorces are filed by women.

90% of men lose custody and have to pay a lot of child support

If you think your so good a picking them, by all means go ahead.

But if I handed you a revolver that was 50% loaded, would you want to play Russian roulette?

It's your life, but it would be sad if it turned out like mine. I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm trying to let you know that MGTOW and Mens rights isn't just a bunch of basement dwelling nerds who can't get laid so they take to the internet and attack women.

They way things are now makes me afraid for my son. I hope I can get him focused on himself rather than women.

[LightEnd]

What you dont realize is that most of the women you date or marry are just settling for you. Unless you are in the top 20% of men in regards to looks and resources, there's a good chance your not her first pick. Unfortunately Most mens ego doesn't allow them to realize this.

[LightEnd]

The mistake that most men that have not been through divorce rape make, is assuming that the man that got divorce raped was at fault. NOPE.

You can get married, stay faithful, provide a decent life and be a relatively good husband.

She can be a terrible wife, treat you like shit, cheat on you and still take all your shit and kids and you have to pay to support her and her new mans lifestyle. While you live in poverty and work your ass off.

This is a stupid gamble to take and the odds are not in your favor.

[LordSnuggles]

Yeah you were dumb and got hurt therefore it's a rigged system and unfair for everyone. Basically you're a feminist but on the other side. No more interested in nuance or reality. Instead you chose to live in absolutes. You have poor judgment that much is clear. Twice. The system didn't fuck you, you are just bad at picking. You're operating in some self fulfilling prophecy in which every failed relationship makes you feel better or more right about your mistakes. You don't find that sad or pathetic? Instead, if you pick well, you can enjoy a longer, happier life with more income, happier and more well adjusted children. But no, you picked badly and blame the institution for your failings and a system that you feel is rigged. Everytime someone fails you go, "yep see I was right" but you don't go "yeah I was wrong" for every happy relationships do you. That's because you only want to see data that supports your bias which makes you dishonest and intellectually cowardly. And that is the saddest part of all.

[LightEnd]

No, I dont give a damn what you think, or say about me. If one guy reads my post and thinks about it and protects his resources wisely, its worth 100 morons calling me names because they think they are superior and incapable of getting screwed. Good luck to you.

[LightEnd]

Lol, trying to shame me. Hilarious. I'm not ashamed bud

[LordSnuggles]

Or reads my reply and decided to just pick better and ignore whiny men with poor judgment, it will have been worth it. Instead what you should be preaching is what not to do in a marriage as that's the only thing you are qualified to speak on. It certainly isn't about the world, society, and from a biased perspective of someone who couldn't handle a marriage. Yeah you'll give an objective perspective alright.

[LightEnd]

it doesn't have to do with picking better, I have a good woman now and have had her for 6 years. She agrees with what I am saying. It was a matter of luck.

And all I'm saying is until the laws change its unwise to get married or have children. Just because it triggers your cognitive dissonance when I make that statement doesn't make me cowardly or wrong.. it's a correct statement.

It is unwise to get married or have kids until the divorce laws are changed.

Relationships fail for all kinds of reasons, the problem is if it does fail, you as a man are screwed.

[LightEnd]

I'm not on here crying about the past. The laws need to change and other men need to know what can happen to them if they are not careful and wise in their decisions.

That's why you dont understand. Because you so prideful you think we are all just whining and inferior to you. What we are doing is try to protect other men from suffering the same fate. I literally proved to you just in this conversation that there are legitimate issues that need to be addressed and all you can do is flip around like a fish and call me a coward.

In my opinion a coward will ait around and white knight for a broken system because he wants people to like him.

[LordSnuggles]

Oh wow the woman you're seeing agrees with you. Shocker. You need to look up what cognitive dissonance means. I don't think it means what you think it means. Your bad experiences and stats which I know you pulled from bias sources (I know because I've seen them before on multiple MGTOW sites and subreddits) are in contravention to the millions that live happily and marry and have kids. You want to create a dichotomy in which marriages either fail or not and compare that to a roulette wheel with 50/50 shot. You can do that with most anything. It means nothing because life isn't that simple. And you desperately want it to be to justify what happened to you. A good relationship isn't luck. Maybe how you meet is lucky but beyond that it's totally on you if it works out or not. And you aren't good at them clearly. Twice. I've never been married because I haven't found a good fit for me. You went ahead foolhardy and failed twice. That's the difference between you and me. I think and you don't. That's why you need statistics to justify your failures. You're like some failed quarterback trying to educate others on being a quarterback. The worst possible source of advice.

[LightEnd]

I don't desperately want to justify anything. If I had followed the advice I am giving now I would be far better off.

I think you missed the part the part where I said IDGAF if people like me. Everything I said is true and it has nothing to do with justifying anything.

Men like you are the problem. And why a lot of men are suffering under the boot of big government and dishonorable women. Biased courts and unfair laws.

[LightEnd]

There is absolutely no reason the assets should just be split 50/50 and after the relationship ends each person controls their own assets going forward. And decides how they want to allocate their resources for their children's sake. This is totally reasonable.

Most of the money paid in child support goes to support the lifestyle of the mother and not to the children.

Nothing about anything I am saying is unreasonable.

[LightEnd]

Cognitive dissonance

the state of having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes, especially as relating to behavioral decisions and attitude change.

Again just because you dont understand they way in which I applied this term to you doesn't make it incorrect

When you hear these perfectly legitimate arguments it is contradictory to you own deeply held beliefs in regards to the helplessness of women and your own grandiose opinion of yourself and your responsibilities as a man.

The term was applied correctly with the correct understanding of the definition.

The things I'm saying offend your beliefs and so you short circuit and half to resort to name calling and shaming me.

[LightEnd]

You still have also failed to address the point and explain to me how I am wrong.

You didn't spend any time telling me why you think it is wise for a man to get married and have children despite the current biased family laws.

[LightEnd]

This app is, girls ask guys.

a lot of women are wondering why a lot of men are avoiding marriage. This is the reason why. Both men and women can benifit by reading these points and understanding them.

Perhaps real independent women would agree to prenumps to reassure their man should anything happen with the relationship then everything will be handled fairly without the court battle.

Thank you for helping me make my argument.

[LightEnd]

I'm really not even having this discussion with you to try to change your opinion or gain your approval. I know that is a lost cause. Its really more for the benifit of any readers, so they can judge for themselves whether the arguments made are those of pimple faced adolescent boys who keep getting rejected by women or legitimate arguments made in a world in which women and men are equal.

See, that's what weak cowardly people do. Instead of addressing the real points they result to shaming tactics and accusations.

[LordSnuggles]

All you've done is bring up statistic that don't mean anything to anyone who has ever picked well and properly. Do you think custody statistics, divorce rates matter to the 45% whose marriages last? Why do you suppose every subsequent marriage has a higher chance of failing? Hmm? Because they didn't know how to pick right the first time and make even more dumb decisions the second time. That's where all your stats go. They only apply to those who pick poorly but for nearly half who have successful marriages and never have to worry about it? It's irrelevant because they picked their partner's well and managed their relationship. Most prisoners in America are men. You know that, right? Is it a sexist system or are men the ones committing crimes. Those statistics don't matter if you don't commit any crimes. Jsut like your statistics don't mean anything to anyone that has a good relationship. If you can't pick well, don't bother. If you were smart enough you wouldn't have dealt with it and you wouldn't be so bitter now. Weird, right?

[LightEnd]

There is nothing bitter about advocating for fairer divorce laws. You claims of picking well, while they have some merit doesn't account for all of failed marriages. Secondly I could care less if half of relationships fail. I could care less of it's because they picked wrongly or were fooled into thinking they were getting something that turned out to be pretend.

The point remains. There is no justifiable reason that when a marriage ENDS there is no reason that a woman should keep all your things and collect money from you.

You still haven't addressed how this is an incorrect statement.

Also you keep going back to the beginning of the relationship and "picking well" which has nothing to do with divorce law.

[LightEnd]

See this also causes cognitive dissonance in your mind.

Because if you admit that the laws are unfair (and they are) then you admit to being wrong.

But if you argue that they are fair the way they are, then you will be saying that women are not equal and need support because they are incapable of providing for themselves and holding themselves accountable.

[LightEnd]

Of course, not all women are like this. But if you are good a picking the diamond in the rough then more power to you. It still doesn't argue why it is wise for a man to take a chance and put his life in the hands of another person.

[LightEnd]

If the divorce laws were fair then both would have something to lose if the relationship doesn't work. Thus giving both partners a reason to keep providing value to their partner. I rest my case

[LordSnuggles]

That's what's called a "false dichotomy" based on a biased suppositions and untrue premises. Which you've been asserting since the beginning. And in terms of custody battle decisions, it's awarded to whoever proves to be the best interest of the child. Are you ready to prove that men were equally or more suited and it was given to the woman because sexism? Are you prepared to do that? Simply saying it mostly happens to women doesn't prove anything as these things are arbitrated and usually agreed on by BOTH partners. Merely saying the mother more often gets custody is an observation of a trend it doesn't prove sexism. That's like saying most inmates in prison are men therefore the system is sexist against men. So you have to prove that the system is designed to favor women. As I said, most of those cases are agreed on by the partners. So there are more cases in which men willingly give up custody to the mother. And in the cases where it isn't a mutual decision, it's given to whoever will benefit the child more so prove that it's sexism.

[LightEnd]

It's kind of funny because out of those 50 percent of marriages that "work". How many men are married to an overweight, unattractive demanding and unpleasant woman but they don't divorce her because they will lose everything and pay ridiculous amounts of money to her if they do.

So they stay married and in order to keep from short circuiting in their mind they have argue with people who say that it is too risky to get married.

If your happily married and picked well then I'm happy for you. That's great. I sincerely hope that you stay happily married. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the millions of men that have a 50/50 shot at having a successful life long marriage. And whether its wise to subject yourself to those odds.

50 percent of marriages end in divorce. The minutiae of picking well and the stars being aligned in heaven does not change the fact that half of the guys that get married will end up looosing big and the women that were married to those men win big.

Imagine if every woman you weren't happy with you could just get a new woman and collect money from the old one... ludicrous

[LightEnd]

Ok this is getting lame, you obviously dont live in the real world. Women are almost always awarded custody unless they are a hopeless drug addict. All things being equal they will default to the woman.

No I'm not ready to pay thousand upon thousands of dollars to a lawyer to fight a battle which is statistically improbable.

Anyways I've said what I needed to say.

[LordSnuggles]

So you can't prove sexism. You can only cite the trend but I'll look at it deeper since you either refuse or don't want to. A little research will tell you that 91% of custody disputes never go to court. They're decided by the parents and third party mediators. Meaning if the mother gets custody most of the time, it's because it was agreed to by the parents so you tell me why so many fathers willingly relinquish custody. You never did any looking into it. You just saw a statistic that upset you but you didn't dig deeper. Divorce is another animal but I have no faith you did any deep look into that either. Which, again, you don't habe to worry about if you pick well. My parents are still happily together. My girlfriends are happily together. Did you know if you come from a broken home, you are more likely to also end up divorced? It's almost like our choices and values and how we're raised impacts how we choose partners. And you chose poorly. Twice. What does that say, hmm?

[LightEnd]

On LordSnuggles, you win, your right, if a man pics the wrong woman and she turns out to be an undercover narcissist, then he totally deserves to support her and her next victims lifestyle and live in poverty, especially because his life was great up until then, you know, coming from a broken home as you say. Why not put the icing on the cake and let him get f&cked the rest of his life. I mean, shit, it's his fault for being raised in a broken home and it's his fault for "picking wrong" as you say.

Sounds pretty reasonable and just. 👍

[LordSnuggles]

He should have been smarter. That's no one's problem but his.

[LightEnd]

Just incase you missed it that whole paragraph was laced with sarcasm because there is no way to argue with your arrogance and self righteous attitude about having superior decision making capabilities because, you know it was your choice after all to be raised in an unbroken home. Good job bud. I'm so proud of you.

You fail to realize that the reason there are so many broken homes is because it's to easy for women to break a home because of the financial gain they receive afterwards.

Arguing with you is like arguing with a wall, I wouldn't be suprised if your a woman hiding behind a male profile.

Anyways I'm done, if you are a guy and your on here looking for female approval and validation I hope you get exactly what you deserve.

[LordSnuggles]

Everyone makes choices. You chose poorly and you paid for it. Whatever your history you didn't have to go through that but you did because you were an idiot. Statistically, you're more prone to make those decisions coming from a broken home but that's jsut a tendency. You didn't have to continue the cycle. You just did because you selected poorly. No one's at fault but you.

[LightEnd]

Has nothing to do with the divorce law and biased nature of family courts. You sir, are living in an imaginary world where you project the way you think things should be, rather than the way they ARE.

The fact is women are just as capable of being covert narcissists and presenting themselves as something they are not to get you trapped in a marriage. a lot of men are suffering because of this, because to escape the emotionally abusive relationship, they have to forfeit most of their resources for the next decade.

You are guilty of perpetuating this system because you are pompous and self righteous and credit yourself for not getting screwed. Sure your decisions played a part in it. But a lot of it was not your decision.

When I read your messages, all I hear in my head is the teacher from Charlie brown.

Blah blah blah blah. Pat myself on the back, blag blah blah blah, kick others while they are down. Blah blah blah blah. I'm such a wise human being, blah blah blah blah.

Go ahead and continue to blame all men for their inability to be as wise as you.
C ya!

[LightEnd]

In reality, people are like a box of chocolates, you never really know what flavor your getting until you bite into it. Once you've taken a bite it's too late to go decide not to bite it in the first place.

[LordSnuggles]

Oh so you're going ignore that in 91% of cases it never goes to court. And even if it does, you've only seen a trend, not a sexist rationale. You never did respond to that I realized. I see why now.

[LightEnd]

But, your right, it's pretty logical to assume that a man should have known it was gonna be a chocolate covered turd. Even thi it looked just like a cordial cherry.

[LightEnd]

The reason it doesn't go to court. Is because all men know that unless the woman is a completely horrible mother and a crack whore they are going to lose.

Smart men do not fight a battle they are unlikely to win.

The thing that amazes me is all of this is pretty much common sense. You can see it all around you. You just choose to ignore it.

[LordSnuggles]

Yeah they care so much that's why they agree to give up custody most of the time. Get out of here.

[LightEnd]

Nah I'm good. Your a woman aren't you. lol

Hmm 2 choices. Give up custody because you know your going to lose.

Or spend 20-30 thousand dollars to give up custody because your going to lose.

I'm really not so sure your as good at making decisions as you say.

[LordSnuggles]

I'm not the one with two failed marriages so my judgment is already better. And that example would be more poignant if you could prove that the man and woman were 50/50 equal the things thst courts use to decide. Things like, who spends more time with the kid, who had the stronger bond, who is more suited to give the kid the best life. You're really going to prove that in a 50/50 case, the man is going to lose. Not because of things like, I don't know, generally women spend more time with the kids. I mean good luck finding a Stat that says men on average spend more time with the kids. More likely you'd find that men work more to support their families and thus spend less time at home. With the kids. That's supported by stats. So it then makes sense than because the mothers tend to spend more time with the kids, they deal with the day to day more often, and so there's a stronger bond there. The courts see that and deem the mother more suited to have custody. See how that works. It's not sexism. If a guy can be proven to have spent more time with the kids, better suited to provide for them, then he will win. And they do because that's how custody works. Don't believe me? Look it up. Look up the criteria for how courts decide that. Read it and tell me it's sexist. It's not about who is male or female. It's about who is better suited for it. And for general reasons I've just described, it more often goes to women.

[LightEnd]

Wow, you really have no clue.

All of the things you say are argued in court are extremely hard to prove.

Let me reverse this. If there is a stay at home dad and a working woman and they're relationship doesn't work out. The man should not get custody and child support because he "spends more time with the kids"

He only spends more time with the kids because that is the arrangement that was made in the relationship. He wouldn't be ABLE to spend that time with the kids without the sacrifice of the mother who works to support them.

If his relationship doesn't work it's likely just as much his fault as hers.

So if they separate they should both fend for themselves and custody should be split fifty fifty by DEFAULT.

Resources should not be taken from one and given to another.

Most of the money I pay in "child support" does not go to my children. If it went into an account that was for them I would have no problem with it.

But it doesn't, it goes to nicer vehicles, car ports, Vacations, paving the driveway etc. Basically to prop up the womans lifestyle.

If I kept my resources more of them would be diverted for my children's well being than is currently being applied to their well being.

When my kids are 18 they will have nothing to show for the thousands and thousands of dollars I have given.

All of the things would be needed/wanted with or without children.

[LightEnd]

Proving any of this on court is not likely, even tho it is the truth.

The burden of proof is always on the man and the woman is the winner by default unless you can prove gross negligence. Which isn't easy.

So as I say, better to not get married or have children until the laws are changed which allow the rape of mens resources in divorce, and the utilization of children as weapons against the father.

[LordSnuggles]

Look it up if you don't believe me. A kid from birth to 17 years old. Estimates as much as 14k annually and you think one person who has now has 14k of expenses doesn't needs additional support? They're on their own even though both of them brought them into the world? That's insane. And I was going to ask if you had child support payments because it sounded like you wanted a change in the law that would benefit you more and sure enough you are paying child support. You want a Change in the law because you didn't benefit from it. What a shock. That's like some murderer lobbying for better laws so that he wouldn't be punished so had for killing people. What an absolute joke.

[LightEnd]

I have looked it up and most of the figures are skewed.

A single couple will need 2 cars. A couple with children will still only need 2 cars.

But yet somehow, a percentage of the cost of the vehicle is calculated into the "support".
a lot of these things are calculated this way. An estimsted percentage of the electric bill. Etc etc.

Also if a child costs 14k a year to raise then child support should be a flat 7k, which is half of the estimated support.

While theoretically it could cost 14k annually to raise a child, in reality far less is actually spent on the children, over and above what it would cost you to live without them.

[LordSnuggles]

So you want to pay less. That's your wish. You pay too much and you want the law changed so don't have to pay so much. Basically like a company wanting tax reform so they pay less in taxes. It's not for the good of the child it's so you don't habe to pay so much. Wow. We finally get to the point. "Forget the welfare of the kid he doesn't need that much anyway. " that's pretty shameless

[LightEnd]

Anyways, what I suggest is 50/50 custody mandatory.

Time spent with the children 50/50.

No money changing hands

Both parents required by law to reside within a reasonable distance of each other to facilitate the raising of their children.

All of this is completely fair and reasonable and would make people think 2wice about divorcing.

This is in the best interest of the children. Not single mothers with fill financial control and power.

[LightEnd]

No, it's too late for me

[LightEnd]

I want the laws changed so other men dont have to suffer through this type of crap and especially my son when he comes of age. Hopefully I can help him to make wiser decisions as you say.

[LightEnd]

And until the laws are changed I want all men who will listen to know the dangers of getting married and having children under the current system.

[LordSnuggles]

Yeah, "son, don't be like me. Don't be a moron and pick bad people. Then you won't have to deal with any of this" solid parenting.

[LightEnd]

Your weak, because all you can do is try to insult me. So pathetic. I dont feel insulted lol. Have a wonderful day

[LightEnd]

I mean, I dont understand why we are even arguing because we agree.

I made unwise choices.

To get married and have children in a world where marriage is meaningless and everyone thinks its justified to rape a man of all of his resources.

In trying to prevent others from making that mistake. If I catch some hate along the way I dont really care.

[NickiB]

Haha this is the panic of a man who can't stand equality.😂😂😂

[DiscomfortZone]

Really? You manage to imagine equality? So what's worse, panic or delusions?

[Chase7777]

So you don't understand that men are also disadvantaged in some areas?
It doesn't look like you know what equality means. It's really pathetic that women are unwilling to allow for sexism against men to be recognized.
I don't understand it, it's like you want to be a victim.

[LightEnd]

You would call me an original feminist. I think women are so equal to men that we need to abolish alimony, and child support, be like a man where you have to worry about youself. Also, we need to stop shifting blame to men and it needs to be shared. If a womans relationship didn't work out she shouldn't get cash and prizes. Odds are overwhelming that she had a part to play in the failure of the relationship.

I find it interesting how, on the one hand, you suggest that men allowed this, as if we are your superiors, and then suggest equality in the same breath so to speak.

The problem I experience the most, is a womans ability to hold contradictory opinions and argue them without realizing that they are oxymoronic, all the while with a straight face.

Saying that men allowed this, is an easy way of relieving yourself of equal responsibility for the unjust nature of our current family laws.

It's like women use equality when it suits them and traditional "poor old me" "I'm the weaker sex" when it suits them.

I have a lot of respect for truly independent women. However. Sadly I only know a couple. Most of them are wannabes and independent in attitude only, not in action.

[LightEnd]

I'm responding here to most of the opinions I have read by women on this question. I wasn't trying to single you out.

[Shezadi]

true

[Chase7777]

It's so sad that young woman like you feel threatened by the thought that men have issues too. You seem to be the one that can't stand equality.

[birdy01]

You are living on some different planet.
There is no equality.
Not used to be, it's still man's world and it takes to time to change in no one's world.
But yes women's are rising and it's really good. At least people are understanding their importance and giving them equal rights and opportunities.

But in many countries situation are worse. But rise of feminism will surely lead our world to better future.

[personwew]

Things aren't black or white, it's kind of a weird fusion. Women have it better/worse in certain aspects of life and men have it better/worse in others. My mom has a saying that goes like this: "If everybody carried all their problems in a transparent bag, nobody would want to trade bags."

[ClarizzeAlc]

No it's not. If this is a woman's world then why are you here? Improve yourself rather than thinking silly things.

[DiscomfortZone]

"If it's a woman's world then why are you here!". Congratulations on winning the worse argument of 2019 :)

[Chase7777]

How does this make sense?
Is it a joke?

[Kdude010]

Why should men improve themselves for women?

[DiscomfortZone]

@Kdude010 because that's what weak-minded pathetic little feminazis like to think. I find it amusing :)

[Shezadi]

exactly

[Anonymous]

No... when the lights go out... or the sewage isn't working... or roads need building... who will all of these independent, and powerful women look to?

Being a man is a complete blessing and I love it! Equality is a myth, we are not equal, we are different and compliment each other.

[arabgoddess]

We're somewhat superior.. Hence why we were created second.. the first time was incorrect and incomplete 😂 😂 😂 😂

[Creepazoid]

His examples are good I'll give him that but to say that woman " are far superior " is foolish.

[arabgoddess]

Haha jealous 😝😝

[Creepazoid]

Lol not really. Besides if it wasn't for men who would open your jars?

[Creepazoid]

Is this meme accurate? ↗

[arabgoddess]

Lololol well they say that men are our strength and we are your weakness 😎

[Creepazoid]

Looks like the almighty creator knew what he was doing after all lol 🙏

[arabgoddess]

Hehehe ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺

[Creepazoid]

😉😉

[Shezadi]

Some people will never be happy. When a woman stays at home, people complain and when she works, people complain. This is a lose lose situation.

[arabgoddess]

Yep 👍

[Unit1]

Interesting. But What will happen if you give a woman all of your money? Will she create a bank 🏦? Or will gucci bags and shoes start appearing in the cupboard?

[arabgoddess]

For me.. I create a bank and pay off my house.. I'm not into materialistic shit

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

If you only knew how weak and pathetic you sound if all that moaning and whining.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

*with

[Shezadi]

You gained my respect for condemning this question as a man.

[EABsTUQ]

The last guy to say, "it's a man's world!" Disappeared a few days later... Lmao but na it's everyone's world. Honestly this isn't a good question for 90% of the world. Most people live in one area their whole lives so just because that area favors women does not mean another area does as well.

[Stevecs24]

You are confusing some cities with "the world". In some places, yes there are advantages to being a woman, primarily when it comes to certain jobs that need more woman, but many careers are notoriously unwelcoming to women, and as far as "the world", there are tons of countries where women lack basic rights. So no, it is certainly not a "women's world".

[Browneye57]

Only cuz you've' put yourself into a place of being a loser. My world is diametrically opposed to yours. It's a decision we make for ourselves.
You can either be a REAL MAN, or a feminist's whipping boy. Your choice.

[Chase7777]

What a ridiculous opinion, you are part of the problem.

[Browneye57]

@Chase7777 - I have no problems, and YOUR problem is not my problem. So your comment is simply bullshit. Now you're just acting like a girl.

[Chase7777]

Of course you don't have problems, you're a manly man, they never have problems.

[Browneye57]

@Chase7777 - EXACTLY. Too many of you youngsters create your own problems. Choose the life you want. Make your own reality. But quit whining like a little girl.

[AD240pCharlie]

Oh, just shut up.
I agree that there are areas where things have gone too far in the other direction, but that doesn't make it a "woman's world". I'm sorry, but if you fail to succeed or aren't able to get ahead in life, then 99 % of the time, that's on YOU, not society or anything else holding you down because of your gender. That's the case whether you're a man or a woman.