the people that picked yes dont realize that you can be beautiful on the outside but ugly and revolting on the inside. your beauty doesn't come from your physical appearance it comes from your energy which has an effect on your appearance. the body parts and their corresponding traits changes based on your ego and how you take on certain challenges. if you're an asshole you're gonna end up looking ugly, if you're not you'll be attractive. physical appearance does not determine your likelihood of being successful. success isn't something thats out in the physical world, success is how in touch you are with your higher self, how aware you are of WHO you are and how you effect others. so physical appearance does not increase or decrease chances of being successful. what does effect that is the motives, intentions and actions taken in the physical world through your heart. if you perform every action with love and gratitude for the life experience you will find tremendous success.
no of course, but the attractiveness is not from your literal physical appearance, its how you treat people. and if you treat people with respect and love and you're a great person people will want you to be successful and the more people that want you to be successful the more likely it is that you WILL be. success is not something you achieve alone, you wouldn't have that success without the people that brought you up, whoever it may be. im not a super good looking guy and im not rich but women find me attractive because of how i make them feel, what i do for them without expecting anything in return, just looking out for them and trying to make their life experience as enjoyable as possible. and not just women, the guys i have in my life, my dad brothers cousins friends etc they all love me bc i do the same for them. i have a feeling you're someone who is insecure about their appearance but you have no need to be your attractiveness comes from your heart, not your face
I agree with everything you said except the last part. I actually am very comfortable with how I look and if anything, I asked the question because many people in my life think I’m successful because I’m good looking. I know this sounds arrogant and I’m not arrogant at all. I just wanted to ask and see what people think. It’s not that I’m insecure about my looks, it’s actually that I became a little bit skeptical about whether if I deserve my success.
my apologies for the assumption then, i dont know how you look but i just assumed by the questions you asked. if you achieved success righteously, you didn't kill or hurt anyone on your way up and it hasn't changed you into an asshole (which it doesn't sound like u are one) then i say your success is well earned and deserved and you should be living freely and happily my guy!
It might make it easier to a large degree especially if you are an actor or model. I think that on a subconscious level people who look better get treated better than others. People don't even realize when they are doing it. You could say that a good looking dude like Brad Pitt or George Cloony are widely successful in their respective fields yet at the same time they also have an insane work ethic and are very talented.
In a nutshell looks help but they are not the only variable in the equation.
Good looking people are often envied or hated by the same gender, they have a problem finding a partner because most people assume they're already taken or way out of their league; they're also bound to encounter a superior who's going to ask for sex in order to promote them, some actors and celebrities had a hell of a ride to get where they are now. There's also pressure to maintain that good look. With half the people hating on them and the other half objectifying them, I don't think it's easier for them at all.
I don’t know! I mean personally I would reject a hot girl if I didn’t feel like we relate. Many of my friends won’t. But I see what you’re saying. In our very raw nature, we tend to go for the option that satisfies our sexual needs. But as human beings, we’re much more complex than that, so your brain, emotions, etc. factor into your decision and the result would be a mishmash of pulling forces. The force that would eventually be victorious has to do with your character and upbringing maybe.
It's nearly 2020. There have been so many studies published on this. Are people still really not aware of the massive advantages good looks can give? I don't think so. I think we try to ignore or explain away this obvious, very old human bias because we all want to think we're "good" and fair people. But biology doesn't have a moral conscience. (Not including the emergence of some minds.)
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Yes, of course having been blessed with naturally good looks is a huge advantage in life. But it does not necessarily mean, then, that good looking people who have achieved successes owe it to their physical beauty. Some of it is natural and some of it is worked hard for, or self-control and dedication is a part of it. And knowing or meeting the right people, learning behavioural things like how to style oneself. But I like your example of Brad Pitt, because from everything that I have seen of him over so many years, he is a really nice guy. He is pleasant, and charming, and has a certain magnetic kind of presence. There are not so many actors (some, but not a whole lot) who are nasty or difficult people, but are so talented that directors, etc. will continue to work with them. Reputations are important, and character is even more important. I think beauty is a huge leg up, but it's not a golden ticket. Hopefully we, as a society, admire the people we do because they have other admirable traits. (Well, I can list a few off the top of my head who in no way deserve the success or admiration they've achieved, but that's a whole other, controversial, topic.) There are exceptions, to be sure, but I guess it comes down to whether a person believes that society is mostly just, and generally based on an honour system of merit, or if there is no real justice, and we are honouring too many false idols. Better stop here. This is getting complicated.
First, I too think Brad Pitt is a great example. He has the looks, but also he’s a hard worker. He sacrificed so much. Going from Shawnee, Oklahoma to Hollywood does not happen by coincidence. Do you need some luck? Sure! Is it enough? Hell no! Cristiano Ronaldo is another great example. On and on it goes. Too many examples. That said, society will never be 100% merit based. I dare say, not even 50% merit based. But it is what it is...
Yes, I absolutely agree with you. Generally speaking, good looking people easily get what they want.
They get better treatment and everybody likes and believes in them. Plus, when it comes to the movie and the music industry, the better you look, the more successful you are.
So, success is in the palm of their hands.
No, absolutely not. Andvoud who thinks so is living in a fantasy that these people projected on them. And these famous people adapt those projects as their own or else their out of the job. Many of them if not all of them are imperfect people and most do wear makeup or had surgery.
They would not obtain success that easily. It's all about intentions and mindset as well as the image they expect you to present. Only a fool would think otherwise and lives in ignorance.
I say that has to do with the intent. If you say somebody is handsome that can be a compliment. If you say it with lustful intent and flirting, then it's for sexual purposes for a mate sexually. I never tell a man he's handsome for sex because that is not my intent. O don't always accept "compliments" becuase I can tell the difference between a man who is just complimenting because what I had is unique vs somebody whose trying to test his luck how quick he can get me in the bedroom. Which is never. Just like I can accept a woman's compliment because she likes my style vs a woman who says it with disgain in her vain or it's forced. Self awareness goes a long way.
I'm trying to understand your position. Can you please tell me what... "It's all about intentions and mindset as well as the image they expect you to present.".. means?
I didn’t quite understand that too! I feel like what she’s trying to say is that when person A says person B is beautiful, the response of person B depends on the perceived intentions of person A. Not quite sure what the “image they expect you to present” means but it could refer to how society forces certain beauty standards on women, which might not be necessarily forced on men. I could be wrong though, but that’s how I interpreted what @btbc92 said
In the Entertainment industry, the "Intentions" is to deceive and lead the public eye astray to promote their agenda. These people are high Satanist and work demonically with principalities. Their puppets. They don't have a life of their own. Hence why they always behave and react the same way. And anybody who doesn't fit their narative is scrutized. That is their "Mindset".
Their message is if you want to live large, you got to do this, that and the third. Hence why in rape, hip hop and R and B, theu promote drugs, lewd sex, gang violence or other criminal activity. This is not just for poetic artistry or expression it's brainwashing.
"The image" is a large multi-million dollar mansion, a ton of expensive cars, living the high life, etc. To make peop me lust after these things. With nobody telling them that the money they accumulated is not LEGALLT THEIRS. It's the companies money their borrowing. And that's why they keep renewing contracts, go on drugs and can't choose who to marry, date or sleep with. That's why they call it casting couch. I know because I have family who are in that industry. It will lead society astray.
No different than societies, Greek fraternities and sororities. It's a ploy. That's how most of them get a leg up in college and in many professions. When it comes down to physical Beauty and all the other stuff that came from Greek philosopher thought. Based on Eros. They lied about arrows being about love and arrow does not mean love. Eros means lust. If you had a physical traits that they desire naturally they going to want to take you in, but they are not going to take you in if you refuse to do these things sexually. And why meToo have become a very big thing. But they refuse to disclose what goes on behind close doors even if women especially as younger men are whores out. And homosexual acts and other and the #1, ritual to get you in the door. What happened to the anime studio at Funimation is the key and prime example of what goes on in those places. it's a ruse. And I have a family member who tried to get into film and tv publication and one man even warned her not to go because they all participate in sex acts to get in. Not a joke.
JK Rowling is another prime example and recent events concerning the lgbtq plus community. Again, agenda. If God forbid she does not submit to their ways she may end up getting removed the entertainment industry and will not promote future works from her. While all the other major companies have already bought out and own the rights to Harry Potter. Even Tom Cruz had poor dental hygiene that he couldn't get most roles. Until he had got most of his original teeth removed with implants, his career skyrocketed.
Hope that everything that I had explained so far make sense. You can do your research and look all these things up.
And @Marco10, the part about Society forcing unrealistic beauty standards on women and not a necessarily on men is quite correct to a degree. The same set standards does apply to men oh, but the ones who deal with it more all those who many people will naturally lust after. Because again sex sells. Even when it's against the others will and natural character. Like it happened to daenerys's actress in Game of Thrones because any original Seasons she refused to participate in sex scenes but it will be at the cost of her role and possibly her entire career.
Ok and wow. But you do or don’t think being attractive makes success more attainable?
@SarahsSummer No. Absolutely not. And it shouldn't. It hurts others enough. People reward based on their own biases. Often to obtain from another. It doesn't make success more obtainable. It just means that because of how our society works, it may lead to more prospects in the future with little to no work at all. Whether 'attractive' people take those opportunities is subjective.
No different than most naive girls or some guys stay in emotionally abusive relationships, even if that other person is rich, attractive, etc. They often think they can't get better. They neglect what is good for them for easy access to things that even THEY THEMSELVES may have never worked hard for. The same reason my father is now retired. Back in his teenage years, hardly any girl he wanted didn't pay attention to him because he was short. But they say he was cute, may have sex with him, etc. But most cheated on him and didn't want to marry him. He met my mother and been with her for so many years before she died. Many of those same people were jealous of my mother and many of them didn't think she was attractive. They made fun of them and say he had no money. Now once he retired with a home, and nearly a quarter of a million dollars, and with her passing, they NOW want to try and 'check' him. Yet they have messed up relationships, marriages are divorcees and or baby mamas to somebody else's drama. So there you go. That's just one example. And I know plenty of others. Many of the attractive people I knew in my personal life were very smart, grew up in a very decent home, parents had some money, very good GPA with few of them being rich by their parents. It's shown and proven to me that they didn't just HAVE things given to them. It isn't to say the overall higher-ups wouldn't put physical attractiveness as their #1 priority, but it's never wise to say that they only got in because of it either. It's whether or not one takes advantage of it, and not all do. While others scorn them for not doing it like it was done to me, and others envy once you do it anyway. You can never win with envious people.
Ok so in and among that rambling manifesto, I think I understood you to say attractive people may have more options at success and CAN be more successful if they take advantage of the opportunities while selling their soul to the devil.
@SarahsSummer Pretty much it. However, it doesn't mean their successful even if they take it. Success is defined by our OWN desires and standards. Nobody can make you want something you don't.
The question was regarding success being more “attainable”
@SarahsSummer And that is why I said no. It is not more attainable. I know what I said and wrote. And I gave plenty of examples to prove that it isn't. It takes work.
In my experience, good looks can help a little bit. But it won't help you at all if there's nothing going on upstairs. A good looking person may have a higher chance of charming people in the office and at interviews, but if you don't have the work ethic and the skills that pretty face is useless pretty quickly. It's like rich men marrying a trophy wife right? You can marry a pretty girl that' fine, but if that's all she has going for her, she'll just get replaced. You need to be smart too.
Yes exactly!
Success can be achieved in many different fields.
I know scores of successful people who score low on the 'looks-side'.
Think of Jack Ma, Angela Merkel...
In some cases -looking at professional life- I would even have LESS 'trust' in the competence of a 'good looking' person.
Obviously yes.
Ever heard of jeremy meeks and Sean corey? Also another recent felon named monica.
All of them got famous off mugshots.
Imagine going to school for 22 years just to come out with a 50k to 60k job, while these people didn't have to do anything but just exist
It definitely does. People tend to take the words of an attractive person more seriously. People tend to also assume attractive people are more successful and popular. Also... who grabs your attention more and who are you more motivated (even subconsciously) to see... an attractive girl or unattractive girl? So it does play a factor in how successful you are. It's definitely not the sole factor though. Intelligence, social circle, etc.
Yeah... right.
Good looks and making good money? Hey I'm a pipeliner and you think my looks get me great paying jobs pipe welding? LOL NO! It's my skill. You can talk and talk and look like a kent doll but for me if you can't pass the x-ray weld test then it's good bye!
It's pretty clear you are talking about people who work in office jobs or holly wood crap. You see holly wood there are very few people who are up there actors etc... compared to the people who try to break out.
Beautiful people just have a head start so yes. First impression matters. People enjoy being around beautiful people. If you gonna have to spend a whole day working with someone you would rather it be a pretty person.
It depends
if you want a publicly successful career i. e. a singer or an actor then yes
For something hidden away like owning a successful business or working behind the celebraties then not at all
Possibly but one of my clients who at 46 refers to himself as haggard but has an attractive wife who is 20 years his junior and works in the film industry so looks are far from everything especially if you have money
it really depends on what you consider success... being a model/celebrity? yeah probably
being nobel prize winner? unlikely
with love? NOPE!
Its not everything but unfortunately in modern society looks are very important and we still base so many first impressions etc on look alone
It's pretty well documented that "attractive" people will earn about 12% more over the course of their lifetime.
also true
Agreed but if an actor/actress has absolute no talent there is a glass ceiling unless they do other things like commercials or modeling or something.
Definitely. You see two people with the same qualifications applying for a job, the good looking person will have 10+ points.
All the studies say so. Good looking people have good qualities attached to their looks no matter if they actually possess NONE of those qualities...
While I disagree that it is not related, because yes in a way it is. Although, I have seen plenty of people who weren't exactly the greatest to look at achieve more than their fairer looking counterparts on brains and willpower.
Of course! There is no rule of thumb here. In fact, we can name thousands of figures that attained unprecedented success and who actually look way below average (whatever that means). I just meant that in our everyday lives, our image matters a lot, especially in the era of FB and Instagram to the point that an attractive man/woman is immediately viewed as successful and in a way has it a little easier than his/her counterparts.
It's funny - it doesn't actually make dating any easier (and does make it harder) - but it does help with work/career, yes (good looking people are always more welcome in sales or marketing related fields)
I think it generally helps, but te are a lot of situations where how you look will not factor in at all.
In hollywood? Yes
Modeling, fashion, etc. Of course.
In an office? No. If you can't do your job, chances are no one cares.
You know it's funny you have Brad Pitt as an example in your post. Pitt himself admitted he couldn't even get a date at first when he moved to L. A.
To answer your question it helps get your foot in the door.
No I know that lol but he wasn’t that handsome during the period that he’s referencing! Anyway, to talk about him specifically, I think many people don’t see how good of an actor he is and only focus on his handsome face. It gave him the first push for sure but he’s got a hell of a talent/work ethic.
Yes of course. It's unfair I know but it's true.
Obviously... It's pretty much a scientific fact. People are stupid and inherently always follow their eyes, even when they know they're being lead astray.
No it's not all about looks you should have what it takes which is means skills, will and determination most of not lazy
We all know you're not to judge a book by its cover but it certainly helps to be good looking so yes I agree..
Yes, and (like it or not), taller people are received as being more successful.
Having good looks or lots of money makes success easier to get! Combine both and you’re unstoppable.
Actually yes, even it goes as far as generals being selected just by its looks instead as for its merits!!!
Can't say yea all... Having a good looks without a talent and brain will not gives someone success..
In todays world it has a lot to do with it bc we on focus on looks instead of whos more qualified.
It seems the better looking you are the more people want you around...
It helps but if you're a complete dumbass...
Your fucked
Yes but you need to know how to apply them
Yes, good looks are a huge plus.
Absolutely that is why you see soo many poor and ugly people shopping at walmart.
Yes, of course. Why are you not clear about it?
They don't. At least not on here. :)
Is that Brad Pitt? He doesn't look very good.
Good looking people could still be idiots
It is scientifically proven
Right! I think it's unfair and wish things were different, but this is the reality
It helps a lot.
absolutely in every activity
The words "duh" come to mind.
Not always its self esteem that helps
Height affects 'Wages' too!
Wages (how much one earns) in some areas is seen as "Success", and some places that is a struggle if or someone is shorter,
It has been proven!
Perception!
As I read other comments, the topic kind of gets covered!
Tall/taller people 'Can be' less intelligent, but still get the higher authority job!
Thank you!
Enjoy Christmas, and happy new year!
and easier to lose.
Agreed.
Ofcourse
Absolutely
Yes, for sure!!!
It definitely helps.
Hello
Hell yes it does, what people fail to realize (great question btw) is that anyone can look good, its when to know it is neccassery and it means very little without a happy attitude to back it up, i wear work clothes all day long and im in comstruction, but a sad man in armani would not attract people the way i know i can, its so easy,, anyone anywer anytime i can and will make them smile and want me around whithen 2 min. Am i bragging? Yes... good... if ur hating on me let me know amd ill take mynshirt off
@billyboy37 the way you carry yourself makes all the difference. Couldn’t agree more brother. Unfortunately, not many people understand this.
Thats why we spread it wen we can, i just love how even tho i do it for good i can at anytime see boobs man... actually..(tells my girl to show me) its that easy.. brb i gotta do somethimng.. her.. itsnher doing,,, she's laughing,,, im done,,, no im not,,, gotta last or,, urnpretty much a racecar with no gas...
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