We'll "Teach boys not to rape" when we "Teach girls not to divorce rape". Fair is fair?

[Unit1]

Money, money, money

Fair is fair

Money! It's all about the money

I'm an idiot! We are gettin chemtrailed because of our sins, that we don't believe the earth being flat! Also 3+1=31

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How nonsensical!

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[JudgmentDay]

I voted B because it's always about the fucking money in this kind of a fucked up world. It's humans that fucked it all up. Rape's been around on thus planet with various animals even before humans had been added to this planet. Humans just made it even worse once they had been thrown into existence. How the fuck can we ever begin to remotely fix this by teaching someone not to do this when this clearly has been around and existence before we even existed? There was also no divorce until humans had been added to this shit show. It doesn't exist before we existed. Humans invented and created divorce, really wonderful isn't it?

[Unit1]

That's how people open businesses and get rich! I'll get an MBA, so that I can do the same. I'll introduce the "Good person certification" and it will be mandatory for employment just like education. Let all the uncertified bad guys starve.

😂

People make money from these abstract ideas such as religion, education, jurisdictions (laws) and marriage/divorce already. I might as well join in and label who is good and who isn't.

[Liadon]

More are horrible things to do, but a physical crime such as rape is a worse offence than what amounts to theft. Both I agree are horrible and major issues, rape is an issue that can be addressed through better sexual education and bystanders to act. As those who would rape are very much likely to attempt to rape regardless of the education they receive on the topic, this goes for girls too. Those that divorce for no reason besides wanting to take the money also seem like the sorts of people that education isn't going to fix, besides getting them a better job so they don't have to scrounge off others to live comfortably.

[alice55]

I think it's the laws that should be changed, in my country we don't have divorce rape and there's many divorce where it's the woman who can never see her children because she's unemployed.

I think we should teach both boys and girls to be respectful but human nature is pretty egoistic so even by doing so they would still be lots of shitty situation happening.

[Gwenhwyfar]

But if they’re still married, they’re supposed to be putting a significant chunk of their income (I guess 25% sounds fair) toward paying for their kids. Why should it be different after they get divorced?

[Gwenhwyfar]

@WowwGirl what do you think?

[WowwGirl]

I don't understand the question?

[WowwGirl]

@Gwenhwyfar besides the question, the title wording is bothersome alone
A Comparison of such sorts is most likely to be The person doing the comparison is usually the worst of the two things being compared and a individual will try to justify the Behavior or action by comparing it to one totally unrelated or one much less important. Verification

[WowwGirl]

@Gwenhwyfar now I'm the bad guy but there's your answer.

[Gwenhwyfar]

@WowwGirl thank you. I appreciate your expertise.

[WowwGirl]

Just have my back no problem

[Fatherhere901]

Could you support yourself and your own household if you put 25% of your earnings (not your check, but 25% of your hourly earning before taxes) from your take home pay into a jar and not touch it what so ever?

[WowwGirl]

@Fatherhere901 @Gwenhwyfar and myself could yes so yes

[Fatherhere901]

Let's do this another way..

Let say at the time of divorce, the guy has gotten 4x 75 cent raise since starting working, so that would put him $3 above minimum wage, (to be fair, I'll base it on AZ minimum wage of $11 an hour) so he makes $14 an hour. OK, so he works a 40 hour week so he can get his kids on Friday on-time for custody. ($14 times 40 hours is $560 a week) Now, from that we get the court ordered support payment of $140 a week.
Here is what no one realized but someone paying the support, the money is not taken out then. You see First, taxes have to be paid from the total amount. So...
Federal Income takes $61.60
Social Security takes $34.72
Medicare takes $8.12 (look at your paycheck, its there)
Now, those are the minimum from a check, there maybe more because of the state your in. With that, your looking at $104.44 taken for Taxes, $140 for the child support... So $244.44 taken out a week.
That leaves you $315.56 a week to support yourself and your kid each week in food, utilities, gas and insurance for the car. Not to mention the monthly items like rent (no way your buying a house right after a divorce) and the child's needs for clothes and school supplies. (that never comes out of the "Support Payment").
So, do you think it is fair? And this is only calculated for just one child. it would be more taken out if 2 or more.

[Gwenhwyfar]

@Fatherhere901 child support is supposed to pay for your kids’ clothes and school supplies. It’s right in the name...

[Gwenhwyfar]

@Unit1 thank you for liking my opinion and being civil even though I’m pretty sure we disagree on this issue

[Unit1]

It's one thing if you're planning for family. I can totally understand that.

[Gwenhwyfar]

True, but even if you get a girl pregnant by accident, you’ve still gotta take care of that child till she’s 18. Both parents bear that responsibility, but usually the guy makes more money, so it seems like he bears a greater financial responsibility.

[Unit1]

Not disagreeing but the women can always work as strippers, as long as they're not fat and outearn the father drastically. They'll make more money than a college aged intern, who works like 50 hours/week doing manual slave labor.

The professional prostitutes, that I am hiring make almost 3 times the average salary of the city.

Just saying.

[Gwenhwyfar]

Ewwwwwwwwwwww...

[Gwenhwyfar]

Now that I’m not totally grossed out anymore, you do make a good point about imputed income

[Unit1]

You're welcome :) Take care!

[Gwenhwyfar]

You too 😊

[Fatherhere901]

It's named "Child Support", but, have you ever asked a single father if he was asked by his Ex she needed money for clothes for the kids or if he had to buy "School Clothes for his kids" because they don't have any?

[Gwenhwyfar]

@Fatherhere901 why can’t she use the child support for that?

[Fatherhere901]

Do you mean having to keep account on how she spent the Child Support and be held accountable by the court?
... That would be awesome if the court cared about that. But, as it is now, they could spend it all in rent for the house and it would still count as "Going towards the kids". Then, if any extras come up, (like clothes, shoes, school supplies, food, etc.), Courts still see it as "needed support for the kids" without putting more financial burden on the "Guardian Parent".

[Gwenhwyfar]

@Fatherhere901 hmmm. Well, if the kids live there too, that still counts as child support.

[Fatherhere901]

Hence the subject of this posting..."Divorce Rape"

[Gwenhwyfar]

@Fatherhere901 I agree with some of your points, but that is a REALLY inappropriate title. Having to pay money for your kids is NOT the same as being forced to have sex against your will. I think @WowwGirl would agree with me.

[Fatherhere901]

I think it is properly named, but, not by the definition your thinking of:

Merriam-Webster Dictionary Definition of:

rape
1 : unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against a person's will or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconsciousness, or deception — compare sexual assault, statutory rape
2 : an outrageous violation
3 : an act or instance of robbing or despoiling or carrying away a person by force

divorce
1 law : the action or an instance of legally dissolving a marriage
2 : separation, severance

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well the difference is rape is rare, women can commit it too (and at the same rates as men), and every one knows that rape is wrong. Divorce rape on the other hand, that's only done by women, it happens fairly frequently, and women and society seem pretty okay with it. Sad really.

[Unit1]

Yup. Time to adapt to that situation. Preserve the resources!

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well that's why marriage rates have dropped, guys are unsurprisingly getting fed up with getting divorce raped when they did nothing wrong.

[Unit1]

Yeah. That sums it up. 100%

[SjE78]

you cannot teach people not to rape etc only teach them right from wrong, moral choices and such... the people who commit rape or assault without provocation are narcissists and many of which have that lust for control included in their psychological architype
as such you may be able to get them to act differently for a time, but the moment someone shows any ouce of submission towards them or resistance or triggers those urges they will revert back to basic narcissisms

[meesegoMoo]

Divorce rape is the man's fault. Don't marry gold-diggers. People like to talk about how men get mistreated but you decided to marry the bitch.

[Unit1]

Correction - Do not marry until the deal isn't risking men into poverty by forcing him to give so much money to his ex.

[meesegoMoo]

Funny, because I've yet to meet a mature intelligent man who married and was put in that situation. You cannot compare a consensual risk to forced violence and be accurate.

If I lose money because I made a poor investment is that equally as bad as murdering and eating kids? The question is rhetorical, obviously, because I KNOW you know the correct answer.

[Fatherhere901]

I agree. In fact, let's call a marriage what it is... A contract between two parties who agree to it.
... So, your saying it is fair for one company to acquire the finances of its "Equal Partner" in the deal simply because they no longer want the business partner and don't want to give up and need to financially support their subsidiaries they created?

[Unit1]

You mean you have yet to meet a man in reality, who made the right choice in marrying a woman?

There's probably Bill Gates and Gabe Newell, that come to my mind. However I am not sure if their wives helped them with their business or private life or anything in any way whatsoever.
My boss also told about one success story of a married couple - the husband is a software engineer and the wife is a business administrator - both working in the same company - both extremely successful. Although we can only go so far.

[meesegoMoo]

Wrong. Read what I said. They don't get "Divorce rapped". I know plenty of happily married couples. I know some happily divorced men as well.

[meesegoMoo]

@Fatherhere901 If your agreement is so vaguely worded as to allow that then yes. And it's happened in business as well. Going into any major agreement with a bad person is stupid.

[Fatherhere901]

I went back and read your first post to this message. I realized I forgot to address something in my first reply.
Since you are a mere 19 years old, you DO have "yet to meet a mature intelligent man who married and was put in that situation." I was married at 25, after dating my 1st wife for 6 years, the last 3 of which was living together.
With that, I wholeheartedly wait for your rebuttal in 5 years, of my and any other person's comments in here. Until then, enjoy your rainbows and unicorns.

[meesegoMoo]

@Fatherhere901 Enjoy your shitty decision making. Lots of teens f**k up too. I bet even you can admit that you know people who made idiotic decisions well before they made it to my age.

[Fatherhere901]

I knew very few people a year younger than you, who made mistakes before your age. Unfortunately, they were not allowed to live with their mistake, may they rest in peace. The Majority of them made their mistakes well after their 27th birthday, with no ability to redeem themselves, so they suffer with because the courts say they have to, Be it a crime they did, a TPO based on hearsay, a single night of "lovemaking" or following their heart into marriage on what they believe was "True Love".
As for myself and all others "following their heart" and "doing the right thing", this question was exposing people suffering wrongly when a woman has a change of heart and wants "a jackass to pay for it all".

[meesegoMoo]

@Fatherhere901 That still takes a vengeful woman. When women with kids marry men who sexually abuse those kids, I always say both are bad but the mother is most to blame. Same thing here, don't marry a bitch.

If you don't even entertain the thought of being with such a selfish person you'll be fine. And I've met many men who made their share of mistakes before my age. My grandfather made mistakes that took people's lives before he was my age.

[Ninjazzed]

Divorce rape isn’t fucking rape. Rape is rape.

“Divorce rape” is just a term used for women who seize a man’s wealth for monetary gain.

Please learn the difference.

[Unit1]

Ugh. Get out. Now.

[Ninjazzed]

You’re comparing alimony to rape lol

[Ninjazzed]

Someone’s triggered over facts

[Unit1]

OK, you can come out now - did you report this question 😂?

[Gwenhwyfar]

@ninjazzed totally

[esotericstory]

@ninjazzed Have you not read the description?

[worldscolide]

The phrase "Teach our boys not to rape" is inherently sexist, as if men have the built in to rape women.. Which is bullshit.. Not one single man i know thinks like that. Only a very small portion of men. less than 1% actually do things like that.

[Unit1]

So is divorce sexist by raping a man financially over long periods of time if not an entire lifetime. In the USA at least. And they call it the freedom country 😂

[worldscolide]

you're not wrong. I lost my brother to suicide because of that.

[Unit1]

Dang, dude. Sorry to hear that!
Well, this is modern survival of men in "freedom" country. This is what we have come to.

[Sargentcaptain]

Both are really stupid. Imagine believing that telling the rapist ''Please don't rape me'' will stop him. Bad people are gonna be bad and nothing will stop them.

[Snakeyes7]

The term “divorce rape” never made sense to me because no rape actually happens. You get everything else taken from you.

I think the better equivalent would be to not: abuse their partners ajph.aphapublications.org/.../AJPH.2005.079020

[Snakeyes7]

Women make up 70% of non reciprocated perpetrators.

Especially if they are a lesbian couple www.cdc.gov/.../...nisvs_victimization_final-a.pdf

Nearly 45% of lesbian couples have some element of rape, stalking or physical violence from an intimate partner and that is 10% higher than heterosexual couples.

Or their children www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/cb/cm2018.pdf

Women make up more than half (~54%) of child abusers

[CubsterShura]

I personally think that's a very lazy suggestion. I'm sure most people doing these are aware, they just don't care.

[Fatherhere901]

I am confused about your response.

What is the lazy suggestion and what makes it lazy?
Who is aware of doing what? the abusing wife or the victim husband?

[CubsterShura]

More people "doing these" who do you think I'm talking about?

[Fatherhere901]

My opinion of the "Whom" you are addressing in your reply is very 50/50, that is why I asked for clarification from you.

[CubsterShura]

It's only 50-50 if you think it victim is responsible or has done something to let this happen with them

[SkipStop]

How do we teach judges and cops not to be sexist? How do we teach them not to give women a p*ssy pass for crimes? I think that would make more sense.

[Fatherhere901]

thank god there is finally a name for it. Word of the day is "Divorce Rape". I am so googling it right now.

[loveslongnails]

All you have to learn is this simple phrase " prenuptial agreement " ... problem solved on the marriage issue. The rape issue on both sides is a whole different problem.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Pathfinder: I work hard for the money

[Unit1]

You know... I think he's much more concerned about finding his creator than money.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Is he a simulacrum too

[Unit1]

Nein

[Dinosaursandanime65]

What does that mean

[Unit1]

No (in German)

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Oh ok

[Unit1]

They call this place secure. We'll see about that.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Have you had the feeling you're not alone in the room. You're not. Heh heh heh heh heh

[Unit1]

That's my intro quip for Revenant and you guessed it :>

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Mine is You've all been marked for death. Who's your main

[Unit1]

I don't really have mains. At some point it was Bangalore, then it was Caustic, then it was Wattson, then it was Crypto, then it was Revenant and right now it's Wraith.

Season 5 killed pathfinder and Gibraltar. How sad. And Havoc rifle too.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

I think you meant Causthicc. Do you think about killing but don't actually do it. . . Yet

[MeatPuppet]

Imagine having to be taught not to rape.

[Unit1]

What a nightmare, right? I won't be surprised if that becomes a subject in high school!

[AaronKrieger]

Just don't teach people to be an ass

[Joker_]

Fair is fair